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How did Jesus' death wash away our sins?
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 1486642:MV8xNTc3MDg0XzI2MDY0MjQ4X0M0QzUzN0M5] [quote:Scrodiddles] [quote:Anonymous Coward 1486642] This is the doctrine of Substitutionary Atonement. In the Old Testament, it was commanded by God that the people sacrifice a perfect lamb so theirs sins would be covered by its innocent blood. Christ came to us in place of the lamb to give His blood as the ultimate sacrifice of the shedding of innocent blood, whoever believed upon his name and accepted His sacrifice,would have their sins forgiven.God was merciful in sending His Son as the payment for our sins, because justice demands that restitution be made for the breaking of the Law.God is perfect so there must be perfect justice, but also perfect mercy.There can never be another blood sacrifice because that would be blasphemy,Christ paid the ultimate price. [/quote] I assure you, I know exactly what you are saying. I have heard the buzzwords more than I can count. I understand what happened according to the doctrine. But I don't understand how one begot the other. How does his death, in a real, logical explanation, actually cause God to forgive my sins? I hope you understand the question I am asking. I am trying to piece together exactly what happens at the moment of Jesus' death that just flips some spiritual switch in the world and now sins are actually things that you can get rid off. [/quote] OK, we first have to look at the nature of God. First off, God is perfect, but God is not omnipotent. By this I mean that God cannot do anything that is against His own nature. God is limited in what He can do, He cannot lie, He cannot break his promises, etc. Second, God is perfect mercy. He only wants to be merciful to His children. But that brings us to God's next attribute. God is perfect justice. Because of this, God will judge all and His verdicts will be true. But this leads to a great dilemma for God. His children are sinful, and His innate justice demands that they must be punished for their sins, but God is also mercy, and His sense of mercy commands that His children be forgiven. By His own nature God is trapped, justice will only be served if the penalty for sin is paid, but His perfect mercy calls for Him to forgive. The ultimate penalty for sin is death, physical, spiritual or both. God wants to blot out the sin from His sight, but His perfect justice has to be served. No man can be punished for the sin of another, it would not be just. This is why Christ came to Earth. Jesus is God incarnated as a man. Only by subjecting Himself to torture, crucifixion and death, could God satisfy both perfect justice and perfect mercy. Upon Himself the Creator of man took all the sins of man, and "By His stripes we are healed". [/quote]
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I am actually being sincere here. I was raised in a Southern Babtist home and have read the bible a fair share of times, but I am at a total loss when it comes to understanding how Jesus dying on the cross translates into me being forgiven for my "sins".
And please don't just post scripture that just states it matter-of-factly as if I should ignore that we live in a world where things have to correlate.
So they torture him, place him on a cross, and then wait for him to die. He passes away, is reborn and then ascends to heaven. Now I get forgiven if I have impatient thoughts? How does that work? Did he die, go to heaven and flip on a breaker switch, resurrect on earth to check if it worked and then just strolled on back to heaven? What happened during his death that made our sins forgivable?
It's like a father bursting through the door and telling his son that cursing is now allowed in the house because he hit a deer on the way home. How in the world is it connected?
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