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Friendly discussion and thought exercise to religious people
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 11375876:MV8zODYxMTg4XzY5NTE3NDE4X0Y4QjhFNjQ1] [quote:MaybeTrollingU:MV8zODYxMTg4XzY5NTE3MDQ2XzY1N0U5N0RC] [quote:Anonymous Coward 74989921:MV8zODYxMTg4XzY5NTE2OTY1Xzc5MkNGODA5] Well, it's impossible to show proof it isn't true. Because faith is what people have-which is believing in things unseen. So, my question to you is, when Faith is what people use to believe in God, how can you EVER prove it untrue? The very essence of faith is believing in things with no proof. So yours is a moot point. [/quote] Proof is the burden of one making a positive claim. If you say "God exists" you have to provide proof, but you cannot use "you can't prove me wrong, thus I might be right" because it is a fallacy. [i]There are dragons, unicorns, pixies, fairies and blob monsters around[/i]. Can you prove me wrong? If no, then it means they are real. Its the same analogy. [/quote] This is a slippery slope, op. It is true that the burden of proof is on the one making the positive claim, but this is also something all materialistic atheists ignore all the time when they trot out the unicorns and flying teapots and think they scored some kind of kill shot. So, to the atheists in the room who insist that the world consists of nothing more than matter and that when you die, you simply cease to exist, I would ask, where is your evidence? Note that I am not saying anything else is true, merely pointing out that the cardinal tenets of materialistic atheism are just as faith based as any religion and is in fact as much a religion or belief system as any other. [/quote]
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Its a thought exercise, an abstraction exercise. If you can, imagine that all you know about your specific religion is a lie. Like all the religions along history that arise, faded and die, think that your religion is also a lie. What would you do?
- If you can't do it and go with the path "It can't be" or "I just can't cope with such an idea", don't bother posting.
- Don't quote the bible, its pointless for the exercise, if you can't do it, you fall under the category above, of people incapable of abstract thinking
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