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[quote:mr dull socks:MV80MjYwNTg2Xzc3NjI0OTE1XzlCNkE4MkQy] [quote:Anonymous Coward 72333614:MV80MjYwNTg2Xzc3NjIzMTQ2X0VDRDA0RTJD] [quote:mr dull socks:MV80MjYwNTg2Xzc3NjIyMjQ0X0I4MjRGNjND] [quote:Anonymous Coward 66662033:MV80MjYwNTg2Xzc3NjIxODYwXzkyNUQ3QTlG] [quote:mr dull socks:MV80MjYwNTg2Xzc3NjIwOTExXzEzNjVEMTlD] [quote:Anonymous Coward 66662033:MV80MjYwNTg2Xzc3NjE4NzM1X0FFQjQwODMy] [quote:mr dull socks:MV80MjYwNTg2Xzc3NjE3ODgxXzE5MTI0MjhC] [quote:Anonymous Coward 66662033:MV80MjYwNTg2Xzc3NjE3Njk1X0RGQTlBRDk=] [quote:mr dull socks:MV80MjYwNTg2Xzc3NjE3NTU2XzNBMDAzQTM2] [quote:Anonymous Coward 66662033:MV80MjYwNTg2Xzc3NjE3MDA4X0E2MDQyMTlG] [quote:mr dull socks:MV80MjYwNTg2Xzc3NjA4MjUyXzVEMjFEMTRD] [quote:Deplorable Revbo™:MV80MjYwNTg2Xzc3NTk4NjkwXzkzMTc0NzZG] This damn thing is all backwards. With a regular flu, we don't do fever reducers unless the temp gets over 103.5, and we treat it with elderberry syrup and we knock out flus in 72 hours. So, with this, your advice would be to suppress the immune response and not try to push it along? Assuming you aren't able to find an effective treatment, could you recommend any available remedies? I've been planning, for instance, on following the 1000mg/hr Vitamin C regimen for 6-12 hours and then 3000mg per day afterwards after reading an NIH paper on flu from the 90s. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10543583 [/quote] He is referring to a cytokine storm. this happen in response to a low level of vitamin D3. if the cell doesnt get D3 it has no idea what to do or how to fight the pathogenic invader. D3 although called a "vitamin" is actually a hormone and it contains the information required to fight pathogens. If not enough free D3 is available in your blood stream your cells release loads of cytokines which is basically a signal saying "help i dont know what to do, so i am going to do the only thing i know how and release cytokines. Please send some D3". A severe lack of D3 will subsequent cause a cytokine storm because all o fthe cells will react this way. There was a debate amongst MDs during the H1N1 outbreak pertaining to the same exact thing. Essentially this MDs are clueless. a cytokine storm is a direct result of viral load and lack of D3. if you have plentiful D3 and knock back the viral load with elderberry, and/or nano silver mixed in with some vit C this should do the trick. but dont try to reduce the fever. It has nothing to do with the cytokine storm, and will help to reduce the viral load by virtue of raising the core temp and making it harder for the virus to replicate. If you arent currently taking D3 you need to mega dose for a while. It takes a while to build up in your bloodstream. I woudl take 10-15000 iu a day for about a week then cut back to 5000 iu a day after that for maintenance. If you feel something coming on take 50,000 iu for a couple of days. then scale back to 10,000. hope this helps [/quote] Do you have a link about Vitamin D3 and cytokine storm? [/quote] here you go... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2835877/ here is a snippet from the study "Deaths during the 1918–1919 influenza pandemic have been linked to both the influenza virus and secondary bacterial lung infections. Case fatality rates and percentage of influenza cases complicated by pneumonia were available from survey data for twelve United States locations in the 1918–1919 pandemic. This study analyzes case fatality rates and cases complicated by pneumonia with respect to estimated summertime and wintertime solar ultraviolet-B (UVB) doses as indicators of population mean vitamin D status. Substantial correlations were found for associations of July UVB dose with case fatality rates (r = −0.72, p = 0.009) and rates of pneumonia as a complication of influenza (r = −0.77, p = 0.005). Similar results were found for wintertime UVB. Vitamin D upregulates production of human cathelicidin, LL-37, which has both antimicrobial and antiendotoxin activities. [b][color=orange]Vitamin D also reduces the production of proinflammatory cytokines[/color][/b], which could also explain some of the benefit of vitamin D since H1N1 infection gives rise to a cytokine storm. The potential role of vitamin D status in reducing secondary bacterial infections and loss of life in pandemic influence requires further evaluation. [/quote] What about this:? SARS and the new coronavirus target the same cellular lock to infect cells (ACE2) https://www.sciencenews.org/article/sars-new-coronavirus-target-same-cellular-lock-infect-cells The author of this VitaminDWiki says: Chinese Coronaviruses (Wuhan and SARS) attach to cells via ACE2, which is associated with Vitamin D, It is not clear to me if the association is positive or negative, Will increasing Vitamin D increase or decrease Coronavirus https://vitamindwiki.com/Chinese+Coronaviruses+%28Wuhan+and+SARS%29+attach+to+cells+via+ACE2%2C+which+is+associated+with+Vitamin+D [/quote] The ACE2 has nothing the do with vitamin D the VDR receptor is the Vitamin D receptor. not sure why this person is saying this. It is possible they are saying this because Vit D controls gene expression therefore it would control the expression of ACE2, but Vit D controls the expression of virtually everything so not sure how/why the author thinks this is relevant. Regardless this has nothing to do with a cytokine storm. if the VDR receptor binds wit vit D it will not release inflammatory cytokines. so the more D the better as it pertains to cytokine storm. [/quote] What about the damage the Wuhan virus is doing to the body and people in China showing now symptoms asymptomatic falling over and dying coz the virus is attacking the heart, brain, oprgans, cns? What will Vitamin D do for the incubation period? [/quote] Your body is the most sick BEFORE you show symptoms. Or to say it more accurately you have the highest viral load before you start to show symptoms. If your body has not taken care of the pathogen by other means it will literally try to expel the pathogen from the body. cough, sneeze, runny nose, etc. If you have enough free D3 in your blood stream many people will never reach the symptomatic stage (or have very mild symptoms) because when the pathogen enters into the body, the D3 will go to your brain, be encoded with instructions, and rush out the the cells to give them the instructions. Keep in mind that once the D is used up it must be replenished that is why i was suggesting a mega dose at first sign of symptoms (50,000 iu). likely your body needs more D3 to finish of the pathogen. also D3 regulates cardiac function, so theres that too. [/quote] What about this reply here on the thread I started Corona Virus Vitamin D: https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message4256021/pg1#77593936 He says: "If you think that you're just going to take some Vit D and be ok you are dreaming. It take months to build up your immune system and firstly you have to be mineralised, hydrated and you biome has to be healthy." [/quote] His statement is half true. It does indeed take months to build up sufficient 25-OHD levels in your body. 25OHD is a prehormone created by the liver and indicates the constant level of Free D3 in your blood. If you just took on large dose of D3 it would not significantly increase your 25OHD you would simply pee most of it out. however for a short period of time it is in your bloodstream and available for your body to use. If you have sufficient 25 OHD levels you dont need to mega dose because your body already has all of the free D3 it needs. However most people have very low 25OHD levels, Hence the mega dose i suggested. the mega dose creates a sufficient D3 level for your body to use for a short period of time. He is also correct in that this isnt the only thing that one needs to do to protect themselves. but it is the best thing you can do to prevent a cytokine storm, which is the initial point i made. [/quote] What else do we need to be doing to protect ourselves? [/quote] as far as non pharma protocols i would suggest. vitamin C 2000 mg per day, vitamin D3 5000 iu a day, and potassium iodine. these are the things most people are deficient in. this is the exact protocol my family and i are all currently following. I would up doses for at least a couple of weeks initially. The only reason i know any of this is because i worked in big pharma for most of my career. ironically my youngest daughter was allergic to tamiflu and has an egg allergy so she can not get vaccinated. I focused on non pharma protocols i could use for her to help her stay healthy, and fight of bugs. I suspect, based on my previous study, that nano silver will also help. there is already a company called NanoViricides, Inc. that is developing a nanotech to combat this particular strain of corona virus. Their nanotech is based on silver this along with many of the commonsense suggestion that 001 has already mentioned. sleep, wash hands, dont touch face, etc. [/quote]
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