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[quote:Questioning369:MV80OTMwOTEwXzkwMTMxNzA0XzExNzBBMDU5] [quote:VenusRose:MV80OTMwOTEwXzkwMTMxNTI4XzI5NzQ1QTlF] [quote:Questioning369:MV80OTMwOTEwXzkwMTMxMzE2X0UxNkM1OEU4] [quote:VenusRose:MV80OTMwOTEwXzkwMTMxMTgwX0RBNDk5MkZB] [quote:Questioning369:MV80OTMwOTEwXzkwMTMxMTA2X0ZCRjNCREM3] [quote:VenusRose:MV80OTMwOTEwXzkwMTMwOTY2XzFCMDYyQzlD] [quote:Questioning369:MV80OTMwOTEwXzkwMTMwODY1XzgzQ0QxNzEx] [quote:VenusRose:MV80OTMwOTEwXzkwMTMwNTkzX0U1RUUzREI4] [quote:Questioning369:MV80OTMwOTEwXzkwMTMwNDEwX0I1RkM4QzNE] [quote:VenusRose:MV80OTMwOTEwXzkwMTMwMTYyXzEyNzhCOTNE] [quote:Questioning369:MV80OTMwOTEwXzkwMTMwMDg0XzY0NUE1QkIx] [quote:ElleMira:MV80OTMwOTEwXzkwMTI5NzcxX0Q2OEZDMzRF] No. That is thinking inside their box. We have to stop thinking in terms of their definition of the world - that's where the brainwashing began and herded us into the confines we are at now. I like the way this guy thinks: [youtube]https://youtu.be/KpfgZX0xVno[/youtube] [/quote] He is not wrong that is for sure. The answer certainly is not a top down solution, sorry OP. I have been banging the parallel structure idea because I am not sure what other solution we have then to create a better and more attractive alternative. Unfortunately the idea gets very little traction, even in a forum like this. Trying to discuss the idea in the Q thread, thinking these appear to be people who care, maybe they might discuss it because the idea is not antithetical to Q, gets me completely attacked. It is absolutely mind blowing to me. I am unsure how we over come the apathy and normalcy bias that is present here much less in normie land, it is rather a depressing thought. https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message4876876/pg1 [/quote] dude how on earth did you read what i proposed as top-down solution? :) it's bottom up all the way [/quote] [quote:]what if the way to go forward is... to tackle tptb and globalist at global level?[/quote] You are asking should we be solving a global crisis with a global solution by having 100's of millions come together to agree on a world wide constitution. That seems pretty top-down to me. Personally I have had a hard time proposing a bottom up like solution, I cant imagine how you would be able to go about fixing a global problem via a global solution. Who exactly will you be petitioning anyways? When did even our petitions in the US ever make a difference? I appreciate your thought processes and wanting to make change for the better, I am unsure of the theory. I wish you luck none the less. [/quote] also you focus too much on the possible difference (which might not be in fact) i'll look later into your paralel structures idea. but till the think about it in this way. let's say parallel structures is the way to gom and is the best idea. question is who do you bring it about, how do you get humanity onboard to make that system as the new way. you'll still need a form of what i'm speaking about to legitimize and bring about that new system [/quote] Parallel structures is not my idea, it was coined as far as I know by Vaclav Havel but I first came across it reading Hello Stupid by A.L. Kitselman. In it he suggested a government of the wise run on computers, written in 1962. He suggested, much better than I ever could, that anywhere a vote might currently be taken, such as a business, social club, etc could be where the idea is implemented. Personally I see the idea also in the Ubuntu movement which is not so much focused on the governing aspect. However, a governing form of parallel structure such as suggested by Kitselman and Havel may be very synergistic or complimentary of the Ubuntu movement. The person who introduced the Ubuntu movement to me here on GLP is mia, I have been hoping to talk to him more about Ubuntu, does he know Michael Tellinger personally? Where is the movement now, how is it working, etc. Would it be wise to reach out to them about Havel and Kitselman's parallel structures? Alas, like I said he is mia so pursuing that is in limbo for me. Is it the solution? I dont know, I sure think it deserves to be discussed in depth considering what we are facing and up against. I do not see it as an immediate fix, however if coupled with a spiritual movement, which could be more effective in the immediate future considering the potential in prayer and mind over matter or field sciences, I think there is real potential. I also am not saying you idea does not have merit, it does. I am just expressing [b]how difficult it has been discussing a way to give people back their own power much less doing so on a global level[/b]. [/quote] "In it he suggested a government of the wise run on computers, written in 1962" is the same with what i was saying lol. we just need to get those wise across the globe together so they put their brains together and work it out [/quote] Its an interesting concept. In his book he sort of takes a shot at the one vote for one man principal we currently have. He points out that with this method, we only ever would get slightly better than average leadership. Which of course really isnt addressing the fact that we really dont know for how long elections such as we have here in the states have been fraudulent. His suggestion was to answer the question, what is wise in everything? From there, I can only surmise we would be doing this to identify those who are the wisest among us and somehow create a voting system that gives a little more voting power to these individuals. I cant help consider tribal politics, how the shaman and elders would have been spiritual and probably policy leaders while the chief would be the enforcer. Except with this idea, everyone could have a say directly in any and every issue PLUS there would be a format to follow as to how to attain the full vote, thus potentially creating something that more resembles a true democracy than what we have now while honoring wisdom. I almost see it as a Akashic record sort of thing that would continually evolve. It would require extreme transparency I imagine, which might be a good thing right about now. [/quote] yup. you can fine tune it even more. because you actually don't want people to know how much they are weighted, cause then you ll have the risk of people buying out or trying to influence those with bigger weight. so you can actually have the weighting algo inside a black box so you actually have no clue how much weight your vote will have, but in the black box the wise will weight more. and blockchain will safe guard that black box inside it making sure no one can manipulate the algo [/quote] Interesting, I always considered compassion and service to others two be two additions to Kitselman's idea that I would make. In essence, I would be looking to flip the script of what we currently have of a service to self and materialistic focused societies. I am not sure how I feel about the weighting being hidden. I mean, that sort of seems like part of our current problem to me. Right now, we hide out votes right? Its proven that they can simply come in behind and do whatever they want to them with no redress. Who would be in control of the algorithm in a hidden, weighted system? I always thought whatever system something like this might be run on should be open sourced and taught to all so that we would all have the ability to police it as well as track who was tampering with it. Not sure if this is the best idea or even possible, it is just where my imagination leads to. [/quote] yes you would have it open source and safe guarded through blockchain. think of the weighting algo as a neural net algo. all the inputs go in and the output is processed by the neural net and in the process it adjusts and will weight the inputs. but you don't need to know the weights, you just need to know that no one can tamper with them. you can check zero knowledge proof it s a way to prove you have an info without disclosing that info. like you can prove to the policeman you have a valid driving license without any need for you to give him any info beside that. no need to give your name or address or anything. the system would just send him the proof you do have a valid license. this way in blockchain you can own all your data and only offer proofs for specific things to autorithies. and there would be no state agency holding any of your data whatsoever on their servers [/quote] Interesting, I must admit to my ignorance of block chain. Has it been totally verified that it has not connection whatsoever to any form of current government entity? I always considered the weighted score to resemble a chess rating based on peer review. In a simpler thought on this, I would revert back to a scale of up to 9, with 9 being considered the wisest and a full vote. Kitselman never fleshed the whole thing out. It was written in the Socratic format and I encourage all to buy a copy and read it. Kitselman was reported to have upwards of 180+Iq from some testing methods. He was a shaman, mathematician as well as therapist. He was the running buddy of T.T. Brown of the Biefeld-Brown effect, among others. For the last twelve years I have been beating this drum as it seems evident this idea was meant for us today as we would have the computing power and technology to help manifest it. http://www.kitselman.com/ Speaking of manifestation, his E-therapy looks super interesting and been on my radar forever. [/quote]
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to tackle tptb and globalist at global level?
to crowdsource a world constitution for the 3rd millennium by the people of the earth?
make the entire process transparent and immutable on blockchain
make a world wide petition and gather like 100 mln or more signatures worldwide and ask u.n. and states for world-wide referendum to vote for the new Constitution?
and of course, the Constitution would be in the spirit of the American Constitution just for the World we live in now. It would have everything clear to guarantee our freedoms and much more
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