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[quote:Anonymous Coward 78423040:MV80OTYzNTI2XzkwNzczNTU2X0EwQzIzNTZD] well as i mentioned, Im a space conspiracy guy, i vastly prefer those ideas to political conspiracy ideas. i expect politics to be dirty, but i expect space to be filled with mysterious discoveries that certain parties may wish to keep private for their own benefit. Why no pictures? i can speculate a few ideas, im not married to any of them, its brainstorming.. 1 aliens are all over our system. have been for thousands of years. gov wont tell because it represents a power greater than gov. gov also fears a meltdown among the religious who may not be able to keep their cool in the face of such an idea challenge to their established world view. i know you dont like NASA but have you listened to any of the apollo recordings where astros say things like "they're still here watching us? i cant believe how big they are" etc? 2 no aliens just our seriously embarrassing space trash. After so many launches by so many countries over 50+ years there is an alarming amount of trash in earth orbit. (that part is real, my interpretation is only my idea). so much so that if photos were taken of it, it would alarm the folk below as none of the junk is auto correcting and as the orbits decay, a series of minor impacts is likely. add to that the fact that a bunch of the junk is classified. a bunch of the non-trash junk is also classified 3 secrets on the surface. the photos arent all the way real for the same reason that so much of google earth is fuzzed out. there are things on this planet that TPTB dont want folk looking at. are they ruins from atlantis? are they nazi bases in antarctica? alien bases on secret un charted islands? we dont know because we arent allowed to look 4 reality. the earth is really big, getting it all into the frame means being much farther away than low earth orbit. since apollo, most missions are in the 1500 mile range, while estimates for the photo that you want range from 2200 to 4k miles up. so a series of lower altitude pictures are stitched together to form the images that are here being griped about 5 marketing. like playboy magazine found out, some photos are just more marketable when altered. so the best chance we had for these pics was during apollo, which had a different focus, with all that buzz about moon moon moon, no one bothered to build such a photo into the program, unless it was destroyed with some other apollo data for being "useless" but my money is on aliens, because i think it is very unlikely that god created an empty universe and only gave life to us, i think it is more likely that it works like our deep oceans.. no matter how anti-life we think the environment might be, something has specialized to fill that niche, because god is a master creator with very deep foresight. wouldnt the secret space program have such photos? sure, but then we would start asking what kind of ship was used to collect them, and that might blow the SECRET side of the program [/quote]
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Besides the usual, "obviously its a sphere, idiot" rhetoric. Let's discuss the merits of both models, using actual evidence and counter evidence.
Im perfectly fine to believe either, as long as it is the truth.
First and foremost, all supposed pictures of the Earth of space, are admittedly (by those that created the images) photoshopped. Lets start here and see where we go.
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