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IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 73249152:MV81MDIwMTYyXzkxOTQyMjM3XzIxRjk0RTI0] [quote:-Kate-:MV81MDIwMTYyXzkxOTM3OTkwX0NDRDlGMENF] [quote:Servant-of-the-LORD:MV81MDIwMTYyXzkxOTM3NzQ3X0VEOEQzNjJB] [quote:-Kate-:MV81MDIwMTYyXzkxOTM2OTgzX0Y0NzdGNzUw] You are bang on, I totally agree. We are instructed to come out of that system btw. Flee from it my people... to the mountains in the last days, which I believe are here. [/quote] The Bible covers 4000+ years of God's interaction with mankind from Creation to Revelation - just before John's death. People blabber of "the lack of contemporary evidence" knowing FULL WELL that.... 1. Starting after Jesus' death, the Pharisees did everything possible to derail the growth of Christianity. AND the Romans spent the 290 years between Christ's death and Contantine's "vision" KILLING Christians. 2. Manuscripts, at the least, have lasted through... -the Roman destruction of Israel & other wars in the Middle East of the 1st / 2nd Century -the 200+ years of Roman persecution of Christians and Hebrews that began with Nero -the "trinitarian" changes made to the Bible beginning around Tertullian's time -the invasions / expansion of Islam that began after Muhammad's death in 632 AD Arheists expect that Jesus miracles to be recorded in a pile of ancient tabloid journals somewhere? Even the Christ-hating Pharisees mention Jesus in the Talmud. Even IF we didn't have manuscript fragments dating back to the 2nd century, scholars could "piece together" the 4 Gospels just from the writings of various church fathers. ---AD 96 Clement Bishop of Rome quotes / refers to 11 books used for the New Testament including Matthew, Mark and Luke. ---AD 108 Ignatius Bishop of Antioch quotes / refers to 24 books used for the New Testament including all 4 Gospels. ---AD 110 Polycarp Bishop of Smyrna quotes / refers to 18 books used for the New Testament including all 4 Gospels. On TOP of that, there is a growing consensus that the first writings of the Gospels were in Hebrews & Aramaic. [/quote] That’s why I’m not a Christian anymore, I left churchianity a few years back. The 12 disciples were called the Natsarim, they were all persecuted and killed by the Romans, fed to the lions in the Roman Colosseums. Watch this to learn about their history. [youtube]https://youtu.be/jtIw9Ijs1XM[/youtube] https://youtu.be/jtIw9Ijs1XM [/quote] id be careful with going too much into "unchartered territory" and "new ways" but the reason many walk away from regular churches these days are apostacy. They bend knee to the vatican and the UN. In my country its hard to find any church thats not a member of the world council of churches, which is more and more politicised and are now signing up to agenda 2030 in my country. WHERE DOES THE BIBLE SAY WE ARE TO FEAR THE PLANT NUTRITION CALLED CARBON? NOWHERE! SO IT SHOULDNT BE AN ISSUE IN OUR CHURCHES! And agenda 2030 is in practice world government. These churches are submitting to babylon and do the same thing they did across europe during ww2 and abuse romans 13 as an excuse to bow to government (Caesar), exactly as the OP posted! Im not bowing to Caesar, i just cant, any church that wants to enforce agenda 2030 is no-go area for me, so the options here regarding finding a good church are slim, but i might have found one, we'll see! [/quote]
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Given the gravity of misunderstanding Romans 13, this video is well worth the 7 minutes (or 3.5 minutes on 2X speed) of your time.
For those of you who insist on a synopsis for every video, you will not be disappointed by watching. He'll explain why the powers given to government are not universal, and that they have clear limits as defined in the Scriptures.
It is not always a sin to defy or disobey government. Romans 13 is not the only passage in the Bible -- there are thousands and thousands of other passages one must consider when forming their worldviews.
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