Debate on Jobs Bill in U.S. House--Is It About Jobs or Not? | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 906933 United States 03/04/2010 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the final up/down vote on HR 1137 is taken within the hour that will mean the amendment in question will have been posted online for only 3 hours for the public to read and reflect on and contact their House Rep. with their input and thoughts. Quoting: New EveThis is PANIC Legislating. This is true. Let's watch and see what happens. If it does pass, won't that be some kind of historic change? Or have they been passing a lot of things really fast lately? Those of you who have been watching these things can tell us. I just started myself. The Dems have been PANIC legislating ever since they took over Congress in '07. Every single Wall Street Bailout- passed by the Dem Majority with few Republican "yay" votes- was passed by Dem PANIC Legislation. I don't know whether this is a new trend with the Dems or whether it started in '07 with the Financial Meltdown. I voted Dem since 1972 but never really paid attention to them til '07, when they took Congress by vast majority. Perhaps someone who has been watching them more closely the past couple decades can say whether or not this is a new trend with them or has been a hallmark of their behavior all along? Anyway, watching their behavior the past few years has turned me off the Party FOREVER. Honest Repubs (there are a few!) and Independents from here on out for me. There is no support for an honest, well-meaning politician of integrity within the Dem Party. Marcy Kaptur , D. OH, is about it. |
Aquarius 7
User ID: 906810 United States 03/04/2010 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aquarius, is there anything you would recommend other than what Sinanju has? Quoting: New Eve. . Well if we could some way turn back the clock to about 1912, that would be good for starters. . . Cayce: “… The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea. …. then we may know it has begun …”. www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce11.html . "Be kind, for everyone you know is fighting a hard battle" - Plato . "Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the Great Shelter of life." ~ Hopi Prophecy . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 906933 United States 03/04/2010 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bill just passed the House 217 yays to 201 nays. Nearly every Repub voted against it. Why do we need another "jobs" bill when they passed the almost Trillion dollar "jobs" bill last year. And most of that money has , supposedly, not been spent. Enquiring Minds want to know. |
Sinanju2
User ID: 892803 United States 03/04/2010 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | >>Just the Fair Tax alone puts the power of government in your wallet. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 715509All Tax does that. >>No, all tax does not. The Fair Tax allows people to vote with their wallets. Essential goods like food and medicine are not taxed, luxury goods are. If the PEOPLE do not agree with the way Government spends the revenue then they stop buying luxury goods. You do not have that option with other forms of taxation. I don't do book reports, I don't sort the wheat from the chaff but I will discuss the topic of your ignorance if I'm asked. -MC Frontalot “But make no mistake, BP is operating at our direction...” -Barry Obammy |
Sinanju2
User ID: 892803 United States 03/04/2010 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bill just passed the House 217 yays to 201 nays. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 906933Nearly every Repub voted against it. Why do we need another "jobs" bill when they passed the almost Trillion dollar "jobs" bill last year. And most of that money has , supposedly, not been spent. Enquiring Minds want to know. >>Tell the OP of this thread, she started this with the idea that they would not be voting on this today - only discussing... and that the repubs were to blame for everything. I don't do book reports, I don't sort the wheat from the chaff but I will discuss the topic of your ignorance if I'm asked. -MC Frontalot “But make no mistake, BP is operating at our direction...” -Barry Obammy |
Bluebird
User ID: 730536 United States 03/04/2010 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bill just passed the House 217 yays to 201 nays. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 906933Nearly every Repub voted against it. Why do we need another "jobs" bill when they passed the almost Trillion dollar "jobs" bill last year. And most of that money has , supposedly, not been spent. Enquiring Minds want to know. Obama is even spending the original TARP money that has been repaid on his crap programs! And he is still holding the majority of his own stimulus package for the purpose of being able to use it as his personal slush fund and to buy votes in the upcoming elections. That TARP money was to go toward reducing the deficit and not spent over and over for these useless pork projects. We will never recover until congress and this administration stops this insame wasting of taxes. Never have I seen anything even close to this about of corruption and waste and I have been watching a long time. One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
Bluebird
User ID: 730536 United States 03/04/2010 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bill just passed the House 217 yays to 201 nays. Quoting: Sinanju2Nearly every Repub voted against it. Why do we need another "jobs" bill when they passed the almost Trillion dollar "jobs" bill last year. And most of that money has , supposedly, not been spent. Enquiring Minds want to know. >>Tell the OP of this thread, she started this with the idea that they would not be voting on this today - only discussing... and that the repubs were to blame for everything. Yes, OP should be very happy that those obstructionist republicans were not able to ward off this additional useless spending of money we don't have. Maybe it can end up providing jobs for China and Brazil as the last stimulus money has done. $2 billion to develop orrshore drilling in Brazil right after George Soros bought stock in that. Money to China to manufacture solar panels. We wouldn't want those evil republicans to stop jobs for these foreign countries, now would we? I mean when we are doing so well here at home and all. I hope this time there was some specifity as to which country these jobs are to be created in for a change but doubt there was. Democrats never want to discuss anything these days because the minute that happens, public support evaporates--not that they care about that either. One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
Sinanju2
User ID: 892803 United States 03/04/2010 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I doubt the OP will be back, she got spanked pretty hard. I don't do book reports, I don't sort the wheat from the chaff but I will discuss the topic of your ignorance if I'm asked. -MC Frontalot “But make no mistake, BP is operating at our direction...” -Barry Obammy |
New Eve
(OP) User ID: 906765 United States 03/04/2010 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bill just passed the House 217 yays to 201 nays. Quoting: Sinanju2Nearly every Repub voted against it. Why do we need another "jobs" bill when they passed the almost Trillion dollar "jobs" bill last year. And most of that money has , supposedly, not been spent. Enquiring Minds want to know. >>Tell the OP of this thread, she started this with the idea that they would not be voting on this today - only discussing... and that the repubs were to blame for everything. Oh, okay, I was wrong. I can still learn. Jesus said "I am this Perfect Day and in me lives the Light that does not fail.............." -- Gospel of Thomas |
Sinanju2
User ID: 892803 United States 03/04/2010 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bill just passed the House 217 yays to 201 nays. Quoting: New EveNearly every Repub voted against it. Why do we need another "jobs" bill when they passed the almost Trillion dollar "jobs" bill last year. And most of that money has , supposedly, not been spent. Enquiring Minds want to know. >>Tell the OP of this thread, she started this with the idea that they would not be voting on this today - only discussing... and that the repubs were to blame for everything. Oh, okay, I was wrong. I can still learn. >>Learning is a scary thing. You will grow to realize that you don't need Daddy Gubmint holding your hand any more.... next thing you know, you are voting for freedom instead of the suppression you support now. I don't do book reports, I don't sort the wheat from the chaff but I will discuss the topic of your ignorance if I'm asked. -MC Frontalot “But make no mistake, BP is operating at our direction...” -Barry Obammy |
New Eve
(OP) User ID: 906765 United States 03/04/2010 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bill just passed the House 217 yays to 201 nays. Quoting: BluebirdNearly every Repub voted against it. Why do we need another "jobs" bill when they passed the almost Trillion dollar "jobs" bill last year. And most of that money has , supposedly, not been spent. Enquiring Minds want to know. >>Tell the OP of this thread, she started this with the idea that they would not be voting on this today - only discussing... and that the repubs were to blame for everything. Yes, OP should be very happy that those obstructionist republicans were not able to ward off this additional useless spending of money we don't have. Maybe it can end up providing jobs for China and Brazil as the last stimulus money has done. $2 billion to develop orrshore drilling in Brazil right after George Soros bought stock in that. Money to China to manufacture solar panels. We wouldn't want those evil republicans to stop jobs for these foreign countries, now would we? I mean when we are doing so well here at home and all. I hope this time there was some specifity as to which country these jobs are to be created in for a change but doubt there was. Democrats never want to discuss anything these days because the minute that happens, public support evaporates--not that they care about that either. However, I did read the bill and it was for police departments and highway construction, among other things, in the U.S. Anyone who has read this thread knows that you are just a crusty botch of Nature, Sanju. And your lips will rot off with all your lies, sooner or later. Last Edited by New Eve on 03/04/2010 04:06 PM Jesus said "I am this Perfect Day and in me lives the Light that does not fail.............." -- Gospel of Thomas |
New Eve
(OP) User ID: 906765 United States 03/04/2010 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, for the record, I do not agree with the suggestion to give all federal positions in government to those who will work for free. That will mean a bunch of rich people who have no idea what the working people want. Jesus said "I am this Perfect Day and in me lives the Light that does not fail.............." -- Gospel of Thomas |
Sinanju2
User ID: 892803 United States 03/04/2010 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bill just passed the House 217 yays to 201 nays. Quoting: New EveNearly every Repub voted against it. Why do we need another "jobs" bill when they passed the almost Trillion dollar "jobs" bill last year. And most of that money has , supposedly, not been spent. Enquiring Minds want to know. >>Tell the OP of this thread, she started this with the idea that they would not be voting on this today - only discussing... and that the repubs were to blame for everything. Yes, OP should be very happy that those obstructionist republicans were not able to ward off this additional useless spending of money we don't have. Maybe it can end up providing jobs for China and Brazil as the last stimulus money has done. $2 billion to develop orrshore drilling in Brazil right after George Soros bought stock in that. Money to China to manufacture solar panels. We wouldn't want those evil republicans to stop jobs for these foreign countries, now would we? I mean when we are doing so well here at home and all. I hope this time there was some specifity as to which country these jobs are to be created in for a change but doubt there was. Democrats never want to discuss anything these days because the minute that happens, public support evaporates--not that they care about that either. However, I did read the bill and it was for police departments and highway construction, among other things, in the U.S. Anyone who has read this thread knows that you are just a crusty botch of Nature, Sanju. And your lips will rot off with all your lies, sooner or later. >>Number one, funding police stations and road construction does not create fucking jobs. Number two, you are talking to bluebird, not me. You fucking idiot. I don't do book reports, I don't sort the wheat from the chaff but I will discuss the topic of your ignorance if I'm asked. -MC Frontalot “But make no mistake, BP is operating at our direction...” -Barry Obammy |
Sinanju2
User ID: 892803 United States 03/04/2010 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, for the record, I do not agree with the suggestion to give all federal positions in government to those who will work for free. Quoting: New EveThat will mean a bunch of rich people who have no idea what the working people want. >>No, idiot. RICH people do things for MONEY. That is why they are rich. You really have no clue about ANYTHING do you? I don't do book reports, I don't sort the wheat from the chaff but I will discuss the topic of your ignorance if I'm asked. -MC Frontalot “But make no mistake, BP is operating at our direction...” -Barry Obammy |
New Eve
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New Eve
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Sinanju2
User ID: 892803 United States 03/04/2010 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sinanju, thou ragged wart, a hammer is more reasonable than you. Quoting: New Eve>>The difference between you and I is simple... I may insult those I instruct.... but I am providing reliable information. You are running off at the mouth about a bunch of shit you believe that isn't true. I don't do book reports, I don't sort the wheat from the chaff but I will discuss the topic of your ignorance if I'm asked. -MC Frontalot “But make no mistake, BP is operating at our direction...” -Barry Obammy |
Sinanju2
User ID: 892803 United States 03/04/2010 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You small gray-coated gnat, I am not your punching bag. Quoting: New EveYour brain is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage. >>You are my punching bag NOW. Enjoy the ride, bitch. I don't do book reports, I don't sort the wheat from the chaff but I will discuss the topic of your ignorance if I'm asked. -MC Frontalot “But make no mistake, BP is operating at our direction...” -Barry Obammy |
New Eve
(OP) User ID: 906765 United States 03/04/2010 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, the difference is that I am a reasonable person who can learn and who can admit when she has learned something new. I can say "I don't know" and can respect others' opinions. You are just a dumb-show, like a puppet theater without the sound. You can't stay on one topic long enough to debate with intelligence, but just keep repeating your cant. When that fails to convince, you resort to name-calling. You can't even come up with a creative putdown. You resort to profanity. Jesus said "I am this Perfect Day and in me lives the Light that does not fail.............." -- Gospel of Thomas |
New Eve
(OP) User ID: 906765 United States 03/04/2010 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You small gray-coated gnat, I am not your punching bag. Quoting: Sinanju2Your brain is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage. >>You are my punching bag NOW. Enjoy the ride, bitch. You are a sick person. I would hate to be your spouse or child. I feel sorry for you. You need professional help. Last Edited by New Eve on 03/04/2010 04:17 PM Jesus said "I am this Perfect Day and in me lives the Light that does not fail.............." -- Gospel of Thomas |
New Eve
(OP) User ID: 906765 United States 03/04/2010 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Go ahead, rave on, lunatic. I am going to take care of some business now. I will be back later to read more of your pathetic taunts. Last Edited by New Eve on 03/04/2010 04:18 PM Jesus said "I am this Perfect Day and in me lives the Light that does not fail.............." -- Gospel of Thomas |
Sinanju2
User ID: 892803 United States 03/04/2010 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, the difference is that I am a reasonable person who can learn and who can admit when she has learned something new. I can say "I don't know" and can respect others' opinions. Quoting: New EveYou are just a dumb-show, like a puppet theater without the sound. You can't stay on one topic long enough to debate with intelligence, but just keep repeating your cant. When that fails to convince, you resort to name-calling. You can't even come up with a creative putdown. You resort to profanity. >>Funny. This thread has been going all day with me debating your ignorant ass into a corner. If all you have is that I said meanie words to you, then you are in for a very trying time for the remainder of the period that you remain here. I don't do book reports, I don't sort the wheat from the chaff but I will discuss the topic of your ignorance if I'm asked. -MC Frontalot “But make no mistake, BP is operating at our direction...” -Barry Obammy |
Sinanju2
User ID: 892803 United States 03/04/2010 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You small gray-coated gnat, I am not your punching bag. Quoting: New EveYour brain is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage. >>You are my punching bag NOW. Enjoy the ride, bitch. You are a sick person. I would hate to be your spouse or child. I feel sorry for you. You need professional help. >>Where did you get your internet psychology degree? Kaplin or Phoenix Online? I don't do book reports, I don't sort the wheat from the chaff but I will discuss the topic of your ignorance if I'm asked. -MC Frontalot “But make no mistake, BP is operating at our direction...” -Barry Obammy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 715509 United States 03/04/2010 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, God, partisan politics just never end. Quoting: New EveRep Pete Sessions (R, Dallas) just complained that the Democrats did not come and "explain the bill" to the Republicans in committee. Can they not read? Link: Now on CSPAN You know that when discussing bills before the House or Senate, it really helps to provide the Bill Number so other people can go out to thomas.gov to look up the text of the bills in question, provided of course that the GPO has posted the text on line, and its not being rammed through in violation of all sorts of standing rules that are supposed to be adhered to to give the public a reasonable chance to read the text for themselves. What bill are you referring to? |
Sinanju2
User ID: 892803 United States 03/04/2010 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Go ahead, rave on, lunatic. Quoting: New EveI am going to take care of some business now. I will be back later to read more of your pathetic taunts. >>OH, don't worry if you miss anything. Every time you post from this moment on, be prepared for me to show up and kick your pansy ass. I don't do book reports, I don't sort the wheat from the chaff but I will discuss the topic of your ignorance if I'm asked. -MC Frontalot “But make no mistake, BP is operating at our direction...” -Barry Obammy |
New Eve
(OP) User ID: 906765 United States 03/04/2010 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, the difference is that I am a reasonable person who can learn and who can admit when she has learned something new. I can say "I don't know" and can respect others' opinions. Quoting: Sinanju2You are just a dumb-show, like a puppet theater without the sound. You can't stay on one topic long enough to debate with intelligence, but just keep repeating your cant. When that fails to convince, you resort to name-calling. You can't even come up with a creative putdown. You resort to profanity. >>Funny. This thread has been going all day with me debating your ignorant ass into a corner. If all you have is that I said meanie words to you, then you are in for a very trying time for the remainder of the period that you remain here. There is a name for your illness. You are a person who cannot relate to others except with hostility. You are a bully. It is sad, you need help, but I cannnot stay here any more today. See you later. Jesus said "I am this Perfect Day and in me lives the Light that does not fail.............." -- Gospel of Thomas |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 603629 United States 03/04/2010 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, God, partisan politics just never end. Quoting: New EveRep Pete Sessions (R, Dallas) just complained that the Democrats did not come and "explain the bill" to the Republicans in committee. Can they not read? Link: Now on CSPAN Sortive like when the health care bill that the dems didn't want to explain to the rep. Any bill thoes fools try a pass off to make themselfs look like their interested in helping the nation should be gone over with a fine tooth comb.. And explained to the hilt... Not only to all partys involved,but the american people as well.. GEEEZ.....WHERES THE TRUST |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 715509 United States 03/04/2010 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, God, partisan politics just never end. Quoting: New EveRep Pete Sessions (R, Dallas) just complained that the Democrats did not come and "explain the bill" to the Republicans in committee. Can they not read? Link: Now on CSPAN Better yet, why doesn't that complaining Repub just Read the Bill OUT LOUD instead of bitching about what the Dems did or did not do. These are all like children. |
New Eve
(OP) User ID: 906765 United States 03/04/2010 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sinanju, well, if you like we can take a vote on who won on this thread. Go get some punching bags and sign up for kickboxing, for Pete's sake. I daresay your evil humors are going to give you a heart attack if they haven't already. Last Edited by New Eve on 03/04/2010 04:22 PM Jesus said "I am this Perfect Day and in me lives the Light that does not fail.............." -- Gospel of Thomas |
Sinanju2
User ID: 892803 United States 03/04/2010 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, the difference is that I am a reasonable person who can learn and who can admit when she has learned something new. I can say "I don't know" and can respect others' opinions. Quoting: New EveYou are just a dumb-show, like a puppet theater without the sound. You can't stay on one topic long enough to debate with intelligence, but just keep repeating your cant. When that fails to convince, you resort to name-calling. You can't even come up with a creative putdown. You resort to profanity. >>Funny. This thread has been going all day with me debating your ignorant ass into a corner. If all you have is that I said meanie words to you, then you are in for a very trying time for the remainder of the period that you remain here. There is a name for your illness. You are a person who cannot relate to others except with hostility. You are a bully. It is sad, you need help, but I cannnot stay here any more today. See you later. >>Incorrect. I respond to plenty of good people with no hostility what-so-ever. I respond to IDIOTS with disdain. I don't do book reports, I don't sort the wheat from the chaff but I will discuss the topic of your ignorance if I'm asked. -MC Frontalot “But make no mistake, BP is operating at our direction...” -Barry Obammy |