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Anyone else get along without having a driver's license or a car?

 
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Anyone else get along without having a driver's license or a car?
I'm really considering foregoing it for several different reasons.

1. The license itself, and the subjectiveness of it, along with tracking that comes along with getting one anymore.

2. The costs of having a car to begin with, both in the car itself, and the gas we have to have for them (which is slavery too with the oil).

3. The fact that, I can get along just as well, by bike, by foot (getting ample exercise in the process), or I have to by bus or by train for longer trips (no planes anymore though). Besides that doing this would likely be cheaper then investing so much into a car too, so I'd save money.

Anyone else do this, or know of someone that does?

Last Edited by ajk on 03/08/2010 01:54 AM
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Re: Anyone else get along without having a driver's license or a car?
bump
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Re: Anyone else get along without having a driver's license or a car?
a license is good if yuo want to buy anything that requires you to be 18.

most would say "just get an ID"

its the same thing...if you believe the "tracking", they can do it this way.


if you ever need smokes, booze, a hotel, medicine, spraypaint, rent a car, purchase something large, cash a check, get a job, etc, you'll be fucked
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Re: Anyone else get along without having a driver's license or a car?
a license is good if yuo want to buy anything that requires you to be 18.

most would say "just get an ID"

its the same thing...if you believe the "tracking", they can do it this way.


if you ever need smokes, booze, a hotel, medicine, spraypaint, rent a car, purchase something large, cash a check, get a job, etc, you'll be fucked
 Quoting: Fletch


Yeah I already have a state ID (haven't renewed it though). You know what's really unsettling too, is the pictures they take for these things. Imagine, they have images of millions of us lying around, to say nothing of the other information they have on us. It'd be foolish to think they wouldn't or don't abuse that.

I know what you mean, and that's the bullshit thing (if I didn't drive though I wouldn't bother renting a car fwiw), they have us enslaved in a million different ways. Course a lot of the jobs I'd almost rather not have, as far as those that are corporations anyway.

I'm trying to get off the grid as much as I can though if I can help it. I'm sick of this, and I'm fed up playing the game anymore.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Re: Anyone else get along without having a driver's license or a car?
you dont want a license but you have a state id? whats the difference? its the same thing
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I dunno... trips to Costco would be a lot tougher...
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Re: Anyone else get along without having a driver's license or a car?
you dont want a license but you have a state id? whats the difference? its the same thing
 Quoting: Fletch


Well I got the state ID some time ago, before I knew what I know now. Maybe I should get rid of it though, I don't know. I haven't renewed the thing in forever.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Yikes, ajk, you, sound like you're well on your way to living with your parents for another 20 years. God bless them, by the way.
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you're paranoid. really. you're throwing out all this crap and nobody truly cares about tracking you. what the hell are you running from?

you dont want anyone to track you but you're on the internet talking about how you dont want anyone to track you.
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Yikes, ajk, you, sound like you're well on your way to living with your parents for another 20 years. God bless them, by the way.
 Quoting: Guns n' God (redux)


Just cause I wouldn't have a car, does that mean I'd live here forever, just that I'd be choosing not to be in the system anymore then I already am.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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you're paranoid. really. you're throwing out all this crap and nobody truly cares about tracking you.
 Quoting: Fletch


Yeah right, tell that to the elite.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
Fletch

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03/08/2010 02:25 AM
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Re: Anyone else get along without having a driver's license or a car?
fine. throw out all your identification. i really dont care.
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Re: Anyone else get along without having a driver's license or a car?
Yikes, ajk, you, sound like you're well on your way to living with your parents for another 20 years. God bless them, by the way.


Just cause I wouldn't have a car, does that mean I'd live here forever, just that I'd be choosing not to be in the system anymore then I already am.
 Quoting: ajk

You said you don't want to get a job either, so yeah that's what it looks like.
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Yikes, ajk, you, sound like you're well on your way to living with your parents for another 20 years. God bless them, by the way.


Just cause I wouldn't have a car, does that mean I'd live here forever, just that I'd be choosing not to be in the system anymore then I already am.

You said you don't want to get a job either, so yeah that's what it looks like.
 Quoting: Guns n' God (redux)


Just not a corporate job.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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you're paranoid. really. you're throwing out all this crap and nobody truly cares about tracking you.


Yeah right, tell that to the elite.
 Quoting: ajk

Why would the elite be tracking YOU of all people, ajk? If they ever wanted to blackmail you in the future, they've already got everything they need from your posts on GLP.
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Yikes, ajk, you, sound like you're well on your way to living with your parents for another 20 years. God bless them, by the way.


Just cause I wouldn't have a car, does that mean I'd live here forever, just that I'd be choosing not to be in the system anymore then I already am.

You said you don't want to get a job either, so yeah that's what it looks like.


Just not a corporate job.
 Quoting: ajk

You don't seem like a construction type guy to me, ajk.
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Re: Anyone else get along without having a driver's license or a car?
newsflash: you need an ID for any job. not just a corporate job.
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Re: Anyone else get along without having a driver's license or a car?
I'm really considering foregoing it for several different reasons.

1. The license itself, and the subjectiveness of it, along with tracking that comes along with getting one anymore.

2. The costs of having a car to begin with, both in the car itself, and the gas we have to have for them (which is slavery too with the oil).

3. The fact that, I can get along just as well, by bike, by foot (getting ample exercise in the process), or I have to by bus or by train for longer trips (no planes anymore though). Besides that doing this would likely be cheaper then investing so much into a car too, so I'd save money.

Anyone else do this, or know of someone that does?
 Quoting: ajk


1. If you didn't do anything wrong no one will be 'tracking' you.

2. I sold my car and gave EVERYTHING I owned to my friends. They came to my apartment and moved it all out for me, hehe. Then, I moved out of the country and have lived abroad for 4 years. If you're worried about tracking this is not the answer, it's easier to track you from abroad especially with the new passports.

3. Go sit on a bus and you'll suddenly find yourself surrounded by people who "get along" this way.

In regards to the car issue, I never thought living without a car and taking taxis could be so...relieving. afro
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I'm really considering foregoing it for several different reasons.

1. The license itself, and the subjectiveness of it, along with tracking that comes along with getting one anymore.

2. The costs of having a car to begin with, both in the car itself, and the gas we have to have for them (which is slavery too with the oil).

3. The fact that, I can get along just as well, by bike, by foot (getting ample exercise in the process), or I have to by bus or by train for longer trips (no planes anymore though). Besides that doing this would likely be cheaper then investing so much into a car too, so I'd save money.

Anyone else do this, or know of someone that does?


1. If you didn't do anything wrong no one will be 'tracking' you.


 Quoting: LinSen


Define wrong. The problem with this is, wrong to them does not mean wrong to us. Wrong to them is to be anti-government. Damn right they're gonna track a guy like me or others on here, cause we're a threat to them.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Re: Anyone else get along without having a driver's license or a car?
newsflash: you need an ID for any job. not just a corporate job.
 Quoting: Fletch


Not if I was self employed.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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you're paranoid. really. you're throwing out all this crap and nobody truly cares about tracking you.


Yeah right, tell that to the elite.

Why would the elite be tracking YOU of all people, ajk? If they ever wanted to blackmail you in the future, they've already got everything they need from your posts on GLP.
 Quoting: Guns n' God (redux)


Well that is true, but I'd still pose a threat cause I know too much (along with others like me).
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Re: Anyone else get along without having a driver's license or a car?
Well although I do have a liscense and drove for quite a few years, had cars and dealt with all the maintenance of them...I haven't ownwd a car for about 10 years now and I get along fine. Don't really need it if there's public transp. available and friends give me rides all the time. I rent a car when I need to take xtra trips... it works for me!
...it is what it is...
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Re: Anyone else get along without having a driver's license or a car?
I'm really considering foregoing it for several different reasons.

1. The license itself, and the subjectiveness of it, along with tracking that comes along with getting one anymore.

2. The costs of having a car to begin with, both in the car itself, and the gas we have to have for them (which is slavery too with the oil).

3. The fact that, I can get along just as well, by bike, by foot (getting ample exercise in the process), or I have to by bus or by train for longer trips (no planes anymore though). Besides that doing this would likely be cheaper then investing so much into a car too, so I'd save money.

Anyone else do this, or know of someone that does?


1. If you didn't do anything wrong no one will be 'tracking' you.




Define wrong. The problem with this is, wrong to them does not mean wrong to us. Wrong to them is to be anti-government. Damn right they're gonna track a guy like me or others on here, cause we're a threat to them.
 Quoting: ajk

Come on, ajk. You're joking, right? It sounds like you're going off the deep end.
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newsflash: you need an ID for any job. not just a corporate job.


Not if I was self employed.
 Quoting: ajk



are you self employed?

when you get self employed, you do realize you have to pay taxes, right? you'll need ID, and guess what, you'll be tracked.

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Shit i went years without current id or location info on me and did just fine(female)but that was way back in the 80s.

never on rent agreement with any room-mate/didnt get any mail where i really lived,used boyfriends car and didnt get tickets.


Did under the table jobs like maid service(got cash)always,worked for friends as much as i could.


It wasnt hard at all then but try it today,can be a pain in the ass!Got back on the grid when i was 27,so thats like 9 years rolling along not really givving a shit.
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I'm really considering foregoing it for several different reasons.

1. The license itself, and the subjectiveness of it, along with tracking that comes along with getting one anymore.

2. The costs of having a car to begin with, both in the car itself, and the gas we have to have for them (which is slavery too with the oil).

3. The fact that, I can get along just as well, by bike, by foot (getting ample exercise in the process), or I have to by bus or by train for longer trips (no planes anymore though). Besides that doing this would likely be cheaper then investing so much into a car too, so I'd save money.

Anyone else do this, or know of someone that does?


1. If you didn't do anything wrong no one will be 'tracking' you.




Define wrong. The problem with this is, wrong to them does not mean wrong to us. Wrong to them is to be anti-government. Damn right they're gonna track a guy like me or others on here, cause we're a threat to them.

Come on, ajk. You're joking, right? It sounds like you're going off the deep end.
 Quoting: Guns n' God (redux)


No I'm not, and I think you're a shill.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Re: Anyone else get along without having a driver's license or a car?
newsflash: you need an ID for any job. not just a corporate job.


Not if I was self employed.



are you self employed?

when you get self employed, you do realize you have to pay taxes, right? you'll need ID, and guess what, you'll be tracked.
 Quoting: Fletch


Fuck taxes, the income tax is the biggest fraud of em all, I refuse to give uncle sam one goddamned cent.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
Fletch

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well then you'll be living in a jailcell, problem solved.

but then theyll give you a number........and you'll be tracked...

happy buttsecks.
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well then you'll be living in a jailcell, problem solved.

but then theyll give you a number........and you'll be tracked...

happy buttsecks.
 Quoting: Fletch


See, fear, it's all fucking fear. There's not even a goddamned law for the fucking income tax, they just make think there is.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
Fletch

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when you live above ground, things are tough. you'll figure that out some day.
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Re: Anyone else get along without having a driver's license or a car?
I'm really considering foregoing it for several different reasons.

1. The license itself, and the subjectiveness of it, along with tracking that comes along with getting one anymore.

2. The costs of having a car to begin with, both in the car itself, and the gas we have to have for them (which is slavery too with the oil).

3. The fact that, I can get along just as well, by bike, by foot (getting ample exercise in the process), or I have to by bus or by train for longer trips (no planes anymore though). Besides that doing this would likely be cheaper then investing so much into a car too, so I'd save money.

Anyone else do this, or know of someone that does?
 Quoting: ajk

Me. No car, no license, no intent of getting either.





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