DON'T DIE

and if you had read the thread or followed some of its interactions over the last few years you would understand that was actually part of the threads construction and many people have openly discussed the usefulness of its application to further enlighten those dark to see in corners

understand the significance of the number five

you have a torso with five protuberances
two arms two legs one head
each protuberance has five aspects to it
five fingers five toes five openings/holes

you have five senses
you have five vowels so you are able to form words
the security of USA and the world seem to be located in the five - pentagon

five can be found in lots of unsuspecting locations relevant to oneself and the apparent reason for this seems hidden by preoccupation/distraction and subconsciously labeling as secondary instead of primary information

five is a Fibonacci number
as the fifth whole number in the sequence of ascending fractal interpretation
five is also the phi preferred sections pertaining to the Fibonacci sequence

five is very special

there are five platonic solids
se see in the spectrum of five colours red orange yellow green blue

indigo is a fake colour and we do not see the violet spectrum

the more you search the more you will uncover - simply a choice to look or be the well trained surf that repeats falsity's

look around - fractal! and you are part of it by the default position of observer

osrry, did you say fractal interpretation or fractal interpolation?

I believe that both options would be adequate/sufficient as an explanation - obviously the less that people understand a word due to the rare common usage the more likely they would be to repel the level of understanding that they would have achieved given a more familiar type of word

what prevoke's a fractal into existence? another fractal that's what - people come out of people that came out of peop.... fractals within fractals

Mind altering drugs are very relevant to disclose in such a conversation. I appreciate the honesty. I once smoked. It certainly clouds judgement, but also seems to artificially raise awareness at the same time. Which makes it suspect, especially when used on a regular basis.

That aside, I respect you. You also have many interesting thoughts and insights. Yet your mixing logical observations with make-believe which makes it a belief system. Others will listen to you. Are you sure you are informing them truths?

Followers of God through Jesus are actually very spiritual as well. Here is Jesus from the un-cannonized Gospel of Thomas for instance:

If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you.


And in numerous places in The Word, God informs us that the only way to him is a spiritual way. (through Jesus Christ of course, which is also spiritual)


Romans 8:6
For to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace.

John 14:17
Even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.

Romans 14:17
For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.



In closing, this site explained it best:
[link to www.gotquestions.org]

The most common misconception about spirituality is that there are many forms of spirituality, and all are equally valid. Meditating in unusual physical positions, communing with nature, seeking conversation with the spirit world, etc., may seem to be “spiritual,” but they are in fact false spirituality. True spirituality is possessing the Holy Spirit of God as a result of receiving salvation through Jesus Christ. True spirituality is the fruit that the Holy Spirit produces in a person’s life: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control (Galatians 5:22-23). Spirituality is all about becoming more like God, who is spirit (John 4:24) and having our character conformed to His image (Romans 12:1-2).


Peace.



Last Edited by 2012Portal on 09/01/2015 06:36 AM

I read Cussler, boring. Stephen King? Boring. I simply choose to believe in what I know to be right. You see something else as right. I get it, we will each get our rewards, bet on it.

I really am astounded at what man's learning has achieved. The world's on its death throes because of man's great learning. Soon only the rats will be left to eat each other (and I'm speaking of human rats with no awareness of Righteousness and the Good).

This all comes from a man with two advanced degrees, a BS in Mathematics, MA in Chemistry, PHd in Computer Engineering. For a while I was ashamed of the human race, I thought everyone was just so clueless, and everything could be good if they'd just listen to me. Peace, love, respect, self-empowerment! I screamed at them. You are God! I am God! I was so sure of myself. But of course they didn't get it, though some certainly became entranced. The world kept sinking and frankly so did I, though I would have NOT admitted it.

Finally, when I in my supreme "Godliness" realized, shit, I have nothing. I'm spending my time talking bullshit to people I don't even know, as self-righteous as all hell, and I am ALONE. I feel so damn alone. All the knowledge, money, compliments in the world would not shake this realization. I was a true piece of sh*t who would surely die soon in a hole of my own digging. I read the bible as a child, and well I picked it up again, not to critique or judge but truly hoping and believing that I might find the help somewhere somehow that I needed to avoid my fate. I got to Revelations, and realized damn! I fell for the oldest trick in the book! I put myself above all else, when surely the sum total of all of this around me is far greater than I will ever be. Even if I were to achieve the knowledge and power of God, there is always more! There is always more to God, there is no limit to the depth besides my own imagination, and surely I can never imagine all there is to imagine.

That's when the world started singing again, I opened to it and it (God) opened to me simultaneously. There is so much between the every line in every book of the bible, the spaces speak as loudly as any symbol, and I have come to see it as a living, breathing, speaking, boundlessly rich entity that really truly speaks directly to me as thoughts/questions/concerns rise in my mind. It's a highly intelligent creature, there is no end to the surprises it presents. The same thing happens when I speak in my head to God. I don't get instruction or anything like that, I get reassurance, peace, stillness, and a level of self-control and confidence that I never before knew.

The truth is, I am ready for this world to go away now, and I am not anywhere near alone. So many of us are here, faithfully and fearlessly shining the light on those prepared to receive it. I know that at any moment the light will fully transcend me into a state of pure and absolute potential, Spirit, bliss, Heaven, the Kingdom of God, and I am more ready than words can describe. I feel it, even now growing. But I can ask it to wait, if only for enough time to finish this message

The world and all things of this world are falling away into oblivion. For some there will be tremendous pain. But for me, with this light enveloping every conceivable part of who I am, I do not even know pain anymore, it was something I used to believe in, but I don't quite recall why. Let the old world burn away I say, this light is for everyone, and no one would ever choose to deny it once it has been experienced. It is God's turn again. The human race perverts over time, all life does. That's the necessary prerequisite for the differentiation of life, we would not have speciation for example with mutation, and most mutation is disadvantageous to the organism. But I am so beyond those terms, and I know that in me lies the seed of what God would call "Good".

I want to be right there with God as he creates all anew, and allows me to experience every single bit of it again with him as I grow in my understanding of who and what I am through all of time. I want to experience everything, always. Every kiss, every fight between two men or siblings or lovers, every sin, because that is how it is and has always been. I simply forgot God's Kingdom is here now always, I turned my back to Him, but He is here with me now and my mind is free, let loose to wander Heaven's many mansions.

I will live in a garden sometime, not knowing anything but a sense of profound appreciation for my alive-ness. I will love one woman with every single fiber of my life. I want to never repeat the mistakes which got me into a hole in the first place, but inevitably I shall, for It Is Written. Earth is not where we are meant to spend eternity, this is where we remember how precious eternity is, and from where we may choose to return to it. In my heaven there is no such thing as earth, there is a nameless place with everything I could ever wish to eat, do, see, learn, and love. I have so much more to look forward to with my Father, where there is no gate but the limit of my imagination. And when I reach that gate, God will illuminate all possible ways through it and allow me to choose, and with Him I forever grow in love and wisdom, on and on to no end.

it is obviously quite easy after 10 or so hours to carelessly become giddy and 'speed post' something that is not actually a true representation of what a person actually intended to portray - I actually think that a large selection of scripture is actually intelligent and well-meaning - I fully accept that possibly 99% of all religious folk mean no harm to anyone and in fact are an integral part of society - I actually feel that most religion means well and is a crutch for people when the dark hours are around them - this does not make the doctrine of religion true - because they may be nice - understand that the idea of religion was first and foremost a way to explain the astonishing amazement of self awareness - who am I why am I here where is here whats it all made of....

first attempt - for the controlled it was plausible and instilled enough that it became a way of life - literally - the fabled storys have been changed in translation so many times that no body actually knows what the true translation is -understand - the king James's version is just that - a version - always being amended and updated and still blatantly incorrect in every aspect bar the more recent versions that are more palletable to the mind [lack of gruesomeness in the newer more up to date series of this most recent release

I have read your post and am saddened that you have such an experience to share - the way you feel now has only come about by information you have absorbed - yet it changed your outlook on life and has, by the sounds of it, enhanced the interpretation that you seem to be experiencing for the better - no problem - does not in any way convince me that an actual god took part in any way with your apparent rebirth - think about what you have stated - yes you are probably a good person for your beliefs but it played no significant part other than imaginary support - you have every right and obligation to be a good decent honest human being towards your fellow man - without the crux of the god hypothesis indoctrinating you to be good
this information in this thread is equivalent to the flat earthers being told we live on a ball

we do not need a god for explanation - the god story starts with a miracle - magic - c'mon - good people are good because they are simply good - not ordered to be that way

I am not strictly bothered about other peoples interpretations of trouble I'm apparently in by not subduing my moronic individualised thought provoking self awareness to the magical little guy in the clouds or to the self appointed middle men professing mind pilgrimage to the ill informed

I simply look for what is the truthfulness of any evidential significances to my research on reality

there is no god
there are no magical powers as such - not as we believe the religious interpretation is re invisible gods fairys angels ghouls devils lakes of fire etc. etc.
there are no rapturous debts to tally and no potential loss of soul or religious resurrection - logically understand the absurdity not the nicety or eloquence of display - just use common sense - we only have each other and the information we collect and share amongst ourselves - 'we' not 'god' toe the line - there is only one point of observation relevant to you so why give it away to a fairy tale that has not one shred of truthful evidence provided in 5000+ yrs

its not about which god - the concept is literally ridiculous - children see the absurdity - its that plain!

I read Cussler, boring. Stephen King? Boring. I simply choose to believe in what I know to be right. You see something else as right. I get it, we will each get our rewards, bet on it.

I really am astounded at what man's learning has achieved. The world's on its death throes because of man's great learning. Soon only the rats will be left to eat each other (and I'm speaking of human rats with no awareness of Righteousness and the Good).

This all comes from a man with two advanced degrees, a BS in Mathematics, MA in Chemistry, PHd in Computer Engineering. For a while I was ashamed of the human race, I thought everyone was just so clueless, and everything could be good if they'd just listen to me. Peace, love, meditate, the mind is infinite!, respect, self-empowerment! I screamed at them. You are God! I am God! I was so sure of myself. But of course they didn't get it, though some certainly became entranced. The world kept sinking and frankly so did I, though I would have NOT admitted it.

Finally, when I in my supreme "Godliness" realized, shit, I have nothing. I'm spending my time talking bullshit to people I don't even know, as self-righteous as all hell, and I am ALONE. I feel so damn alone. All the knowledge, money, compliments in the world would not shake this realization. I was a true piece of sh*t who would surely die soon in a hole of my own digging. I read the bible as a child, and well I picked it up again, not to critique or judge but truly hoping and believing that I might find the help somewhere somehow that I needed to avoid what was coming. I got to Revelations, and realized damn! I fell for the oldest trick in the book! I put myself above all else, when surely the sum total of all of this around me is far greater than I will ever be. Even if I were to achieve the knowledge and power of God, there is always more! There is always more to God, there is no limit to His depth, besides my own imagination, and surely I can never imagine all there is to imagine.

That's when the world started singing to me again, I opened to it and it (God) opened to me simultaneously. There is so much between every line in every book of the bible, the spaces speak as loudly as any symbol, and I have come to see it as a living, breathing, speaking, boundlessly rich entity that really truly speaks directly to me as thoughts/questions/concerns rise in my mind. It's a highly intelligent creature, there is no end to the surprises it presents, it even shows me pictures when I am looking for them. The same thing happens when I speak in my head to God. I don't get instruction or anything like that, I get reassurance, peace, stillness, and a level of self-control, confidence and empowerment that I never before knew.

The truth is, I am ready for this world to go away now, and I am not anywhere near alone. So many of us are here, faithfully and fearlessly shining the light on those prepared to receive it. I know that at any moment the light will fully overtake me, leaving me in a state of pure and absolute potential, Spirit, bliss, Heaven, the Kingdom of God, and I am more ready than words can describe. I feel it, even now growing and warm. But I can ask it to wait, if only for enough time to finish this message

The world and all things of this world are falling away into oblivion. For some there will be tremendous pain and fear. But for me, with this light enveloping every conceivable part of who I am, I do not even know pain or fear anymore, they were things I used to believe in... but I can't quite recall why. Let the old world burn away I say, this light is for everyone, and no one would ever choose to deny it once experienced. It is God's turn again. The human race perverts over time, all life perverts through time. That's the necessary prerequisite for the differentiation of life, we would not have speciation for example without mutation, and almost every mutation leads to a disadvantageous trait or death. But I am so beyond those terms, and I know that in me lies the atomic (adamic) core of what God says is "Good".

I want to be right there with God as he creates all anew, and allows me to experience every single bit of it again with him as I grow in my understanding of who and what I am through all of time. I want to experience everything, always. Every kiss, every fight between two men or siblings or lovers, every sin, because that is how it is and has always been. I simply forgot God's Kingdom is here now always, I turned my back to Him, but He is here with me now and my mind is free, let loose to wander Heaven's infinite mansions.

I will live in a garden sometime, not knowing anything but a sense of profound appreciation for my alive-ness. I will love one woman with every single fiber of my body heart and mind. I want to never repeat the mistakes which got me into a hole in the first place, but inevitably I shall, for It Is Written. Earth is not where we are meant to spend eternity, this is where we remember how precious eternity is, and from where we may choose to return to it. In my heaven there is no such thing as earth, there is a nameless place with everything I could ever wish to eat, do, see, learn, and love. I have so much more to look forward to with my Father, where there is no gate but for the limit of my imagination. And when I reach that gate, God will illuminate all possible ways through it and allow me to choose one, and with Him I shall forever grow in love and wisdom, on and on to no end.

answered above sorry for the delay I have 3 dogs and 5 pups at the moment - they think I'm their dad and wont stop shouting for me in that special neighbour annoying way

but its cool - answer to this post above at previous post

if you feel that my attempt at informing 'my fellow human' about the details of reality as I have uncovered them, to be incorrect to your personal interpretation, please understand the enormity of the task and hopefully appreciate the time and effort devoted to trying my best to raise your awareness of details that seem to be missing in all mainstream attempts of same likeness - they obviously exist yet are firewalled with distraction and attention grabbing fearful pay attention to this... rubbish - sorry we are more grown up than submissive hell and damnation intimidated 7th century peasant's - astonishing really - because of a made up poor quality story/fable we haven't moved forward as a society very far - we need the chains to drop of society so we can as a people discovery the truthsa that wait unwrapping!

You're contradicting yourself though. You say earlier that we all are capable of creating any reality we wish around us, that we are "God", in that way. Great, I believe you are correct. So I have simply chosen to be part of a reality in which I have a direct relationship with a limitless power capable of sharing any and all of itself with me in any imaginable way. And it turns out that this reality is more wonderful than I could have ever dreamed, and provides me genuine method by which to connect and share with billions of others around the world. I would not change a thing about what you may call a delusion, because there has never been a greater gift to me, my family and friends, and the vast and spreading web of smiling faces I have helped develop around the world.

We're somewhat in agreement. I say I can do anything, you say you can too. But I think your understanding of yourself is different from my understanding of myself. You, for example, probably think of yourself as human. I don't think anything in particular of myself at any particular time, unless I wish to be something in particular at some particular time. I experience reality as whatever I happen to experience reality, anything, and I always have the source of all potential and the source of all that is to return to if ever I need a state transmutation: God.

I would be interested to hear whether you have ever rested in a comfort provided by something that you know absolutely can never hurt you, can never allow you to be hurt, and can never let you down.

There really is nothing like it. That's why I choose God. I have hurt myself in the past. I think in one way or another everyone has. God is my refuge, my friend, and my provider of all I need. I wouldn't feel as safe entrusting myself to His tasks, I am imperfect, God is not. By imperfect, I mean I have made choices in my near/distant past which I would rather not repeat, but which I am instinctively drawn to. I don't want to eat the Forbidden Fruit again, and be exiled. But on my own I am guaranteed to do so. By focus on God I am free of that temptation. For now anyways.

Prove it if you can.

Set up a camera in a public space with lots and lots of witnesses and then just go *POOF*. Have someone post the video on youboob.

Will you make us believe you?

I'm going to laugh at your nonsense until you do it.

Your insanity runs DEEP.

"your god is always 'coming or he is on his way...' - well - I'm here now"

If we are to believe any of your drivel, you have already said that you are not here. There is NO reality.

Satan is playing with your mind like a child plays with silly putty.

I guess I don't understand why throughout this thread you are so profoundly open to and supportive of some of the most odd ideas I've heard, yet at any mention of the deistic traditions or faiths that have shaped, like it or not, clearly been primary driving forces in the global landscape from day 1, you enter attack mode and display very near zero tolerance. What's up with the beef? Something happen to you as a kid?

You declare us all God. But when one of us prefers to let our God (not yours) remain abstract, nondefined, and nonhuman, you start throwing out insults about magic and the man in the sky? Where is the balance oh wise one? Have you not said we are all capable of anything? Yet you consistently apply pressure against those who do certain things you rather childishly refuse to accept. You tell us we can do anything and then insult us for doing something. Thank you I have learned plenty now, I must be on my way. No one can survive 100% independently my friend, that's how people end up alone in their own holes. One true compassionate human connection can change a great deal. How much more could a relationship with omniscience change you? Exalting oneself before all else is the path to isolation and ultimately madness. Exalting all else before oneself is the humble and well-lit path to wisdom and gifts too great for human language to attempt to describe.

Do you know the power of the simple statement: "I don't know"? This is where the key to knowledge waits for all of us. He who speaks does not know, and he who knows does not speak. We have here hundreds of pages of writing by a man driven only to prove himself ignorant beyond any known comparison.

If you knew a single thing worth sharing it would be evidenced by an open mind and with equal displays of compassion in agreement and disagreement. How foolish to claim greater understanding than another? There is no greater proof ignorance. I'm sorry so many have been misled, you need to start reading the right book again and grow from this mistake.

op must b very wise old man who can't lift his dick

if this thread was a cookery thread you knobhead religitards would post about motor mechanics - G.F.Y.O.

Why don't you just admit that you don't understand the thread or how the King James Bible refutes the OP's information?

If you disagree, post something intelligent next time and prove that you understand what's happening here.

If I'm not even really here, then buying a gun and blowing my fucking brains out isn't real either.

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so knock of the BULLSHIT that reality doesn't exist!!

sick of it.

well well well

with your first statement, you get it right, then with your next two, you go and spoil it all!



did you know that ALL of the ACTUAL matter in every one of the 7 billion of us on the rock would fit into a sugar cube?

yep, a fucking SUGAR CUBE

the rest is just fluff, nothing, an illusion.

I made the mistake of mixing dreams with prayer and thought with fiction..

it was a mistake. Now I know all my dreams were false and there is no hope left in my soul. for I know I am not loved.

good read pal
a couple of questions
if we are the only one's in this dream how do we know what people would look like to make them seem to be there?
and what would be the point of doing this observing?

You are laughing because you know just how foolish the OP's ramblings are and you know that the guy who spoke about "religitards" is incapable of posting meaningful information.

I'm laughing too.

So you agree that God created the Universe from nothing.

He spoke it into existence.

He took nothing but His Word and created everything.

Praise God.

yah all hail whoever it is or whatever name is it..
doesn't even fucking matter. not a god in the universe matters if there is no love in it.

all a lie. all an illusion. and no love because I am not loved and cannot feel love. all I feel is the love I give that is never returned.

You just admitted that you are your own problem.

2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2 Timothy 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

2 Timothy 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

2 Timothy 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

2 Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

2 Timothy 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

2 Timothy 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

omg some very riled posters in here
wonder if this thread is revelling some senses that the church is afraid of

little fellow mysteriously hiding in the sky with no proof of his existence

holographic fractal with nature fully corroborating it and self explanatory observations corroborating nature

hmm - lets see

I'm fractal sided rather than spooky little deity's sided

You just proved that the King James Bible is true. Good job.

Psalms 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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