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Obama's Birth Certificate Verified By State - Birthers Are Idiots | |
| Arch~Angel User ID: 940610  United States04/25/2010 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
SpaceGhost
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 940610 United States04/25/2010 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | from Hawaii ? Quoting: SpaceGhostsilly obamabot....... shilling on sundays? I despise Obama more than you. But this birther silliness makes you all look like idiots. Find all the other reasons and talk about him, like all the money given to him by Goldman Sachs and all the CFR in his admin. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 951106 United States04/25/2010 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said. Quoting: Arch~Angel 940610This does NOT say Barry's original birth certificate was from Hawaii or was issued by Hawaii, but merely states that the original (from wherever) "complies with state policies and procedures". OK then, which state policies and procedures are being referenced? Are these policies and procedures regarding original foreign birth certificates where one parent is a state citizen and receives a non-original state birth certificate for his/her child? The original could be domestic or foreign issued. What was said neither denies nor states openly that Obama's original BC was issued by Hawaii. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 940610 United States04/25/2010 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 951106This does NOT say Barry's original birth certificate was from Hawaii or was issued by Hawaii, but merely states that the original (from wherever) "complies with state policies and procedures". OK then, which state policies and procedures are being referenced? Are these policies and procedures regarding original foreign birth certificates where one parent is a state citizen and receives a non-original state birth certificate for his/her child? The original could be domestic or foreign issued. What was said neither denies nor states openly that Obama's original BC was issued by Hawaii. [link to www.factcheck.org] [link to www.factcheck.org] In the copy presented to the public it says: Under "City, Town or Location of Birth": HONOLULU Under "Island of Birth": OAHU Under "County of Birth": HONOLULU Obama was born in Hawaii. |
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| Skeptic the First User ID: 952749 United States04/25/2010 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said. Quoting: Arch~Angel 940610The OP's first language is clearly not English (or else the OP is illiterate). Fukino's statement pointedly avoids the question of where Obama was born, or whether the alleged printouts on the Internet accurately reflect his original, hospital-and-doctor birth certificate Fukino is merely stating that "the truth is out there." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 951106 United States04/25/2010 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a STATE issued BC where it says I was born in a different town and State than where I was physically birthed. This happens all the time with orphans. Just because XYZ State issued a Birth Certificate doesn't have anything to do with the original certification of Live Birth. I have a Live Birth Record that has been certified by the State where I was actually birthed, AND I have a State issued (non-original) Birth Certificate in a different State where I became an orphan when my parents were killed in an accident. One is lawful (where I was physically birthed) and the other is legal (according to policy and procedures for orphan children). |
| Skeptic the First User ID: 952749 United States04/25/2010 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the copy presented to the public it says: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 940610Under "City, Town or Location of Birth": HONOLULU Under "Island of Birth": OAHU Under "County of Birth": HONOLULU Obama was born in Hawaii. Please, foreigners, learn American practice before making stupid assertions. American states routinely issue fictitious "certificates of birth" to adopted children, in an attempt to "protect" them from their actual birth parents and circumstances. Also, a printout "presented to the public" by a charlatan is meaningless. The state of Hawaii has not presented anything, not even a computer printout, to the public in this matter. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 940610 United States04/25/2010 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said. Quoting: Skeptic the First 952749The OP's first language is clearly not English (or else the OP is illiterate). Fukino's statement pointedly avoids the question of where Obama was born, or whether the alleged printouts on the Internet accurately reflect his original, hospital-and-doctor birth certificate Fukino is merely stating that "the truth is out there." English is my first language and I am very much literate, thank you. Would there be a birth certificate on file with the State if he was not born there? NO! |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 940610 United States04/25/2010 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the copy presented to the public it says: Quoting: Skeptic the First 952749Under "City, Town or Location of Birth": HONOLULU Under "Island of Birth": OAHU Under "County of Birth": HONOLULU Obama was born in Hawaii. Please, foreigners, learn American practice before making stupid assertions. American states routinely issue fictitious "certificates of birth" to adopted children, in an attempt to "protect" them from their actual birth parents and circumstances. Also, a printout "presented to the public" by a charlatan is meaningless. The state of Hawaii has not presented anything, not even a computer printout, to the public in this matter. Can't you see the flag on the left? I'm American, you dolt. It is against the law for the State of Hawaii to issue a copy of the birth certificate to anyone who cannot show a tangible interest. Obama provided a copy that he obtained himself. The confusion over all this started when the first that he provided to Fact Check was a scanned image. An unnamed person claiming to be an expert decided that it was a forgery. After, Obama had the original copy displayed in public. It was photographed and examined by experts. They agree that it is legitimate. Your entire argument is based on propaganda that no longer applies. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 951106 United States04/25/2010 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would there be a birth certificate on file with the State if he was not born there? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 940610NO! WRONG. I have a BIRTH CERTIFICATE from NY that states I was born in Syracuse. The fact is, I was born in Boston, Massachusetts and have a certified record of Live Birth. My name is different on both records and the BC from NY is a legal fabrication due to being adopted. The same can apply to Barry Soretero who became Barack Obama. Regardless of any legalities, the original birth record is the lawful birth place. |
| SpaceGhost
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 952762 United States04/25/2010 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would the Kenya Ambassador Confirm Obama was BORN IN KENYA if he was not born there? [link to vodpod.com] |
| Angry Senator User ID: 951561 United States04/25/2010 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| pj_whoopie
User ID: 919528 United States04/25/2010 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do not consider myself a "Birther" by any means. I am though, someone who asks questions. And I have only one question on this matter. Why has Obama spent so much money blocking the release of this, seemingly, normal information request. If someone could give me a good answer to that I sure would be more comfortable about him. I do not suffer fools nicely. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 591484 United States04/25/2010 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | fine. call us birthers... throw dirt in our faces and kick us and mock us... it matters not. He claims to be the son of a Kenyan of British citizenship... this ALONE disqualifies him for POTUS office... he is not a natural born citizen. The man he claims as his father was NEVER a citizen of the US. Hawaii and all of their officials can say whatever they want to continue the FOCUS to be on the Hawaii birth issue. The Big O has never provided a legit birth certificate... you know the one that tells the attending physicians name and the hospital of his birth... two things that are ALWAYS part of the official birth record. It is also a matter of record that he became a citizen of Indonesia when he was a minor and there is no record that he ever naturalized himself and became a US citizen as an adult... so you have to comprehend he may not even be a US citizen at this time... Do you really think name calling and demeaning those that see through the ruse is productive? It is only productive if you have an agenda that is hampered by the truth being told. |
Doc Savage
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 951106 United States04/25/2010 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A BIRTH CERTIFICATE is a legal commercial statutory registration. A Live Birth Certification is a lawful record of actual birth. The two are NOT the same. Shoew me Barry's original record of Live Birth and where it was issued and witnessed. That;'s the ONLY paper that needs to be seen. |
| Sallam
User ID: 941980  Canada04/25/2010 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I despise Obama more than you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 940610But this birther silliness makes you all look like idiots. Find all the other reasons and talk about him, like all the money given to him by Goldman Sachs and all the CFR in his admin. I tend to agree, if you see the controlled opposition heads like Glenn Beck leading you toward fighting this fight it is most likely a distraction, or an opportunity to discredit you later. Imagine after this whole movement of patriots has been fighting this birth certificate issue for all this time, and then bang, Obama just produces it. A lot of people would have wasted a lot of time fighting a losing battle and being distracted from other issues. It's definitely something people should think about. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 940610 United States04/25/2010 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do not consider myself a "Birther" by any means. I am though, someone who asks questions. And I have only one question on this matter. Quoting: pj_whoopieWhy has Obama spent so much money blocking the release of this, seemingly, normal information request. If someone could give me a good answer to that I sure would be more comfortable about him. He met the court challenges and won. He met his legal obligation. He had to spend 'so much' because there were so many frivolous suits. What the birthers neglect to say about many of them is that the copy of his Birth Certificate was presented to the court. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 940610 United States04/25/2010 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A BIRTH CERTIFICATE is a legal commercial statutory registration. A Live Birth Certification is a lawful record of actual birth. The two are NOT the same. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 951106Shoew me Barry's original record of Live Birth and where it was issued and witnessed. That;'s the ONLY paper that needs to be seen. This is kept on file by the State of Hawaii. It may not be released under law. You can't see it. But you can see the legitimate copy that was released by Obama himself. Funny how the Birthers ask for what they can't have as the only proof they will accept. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 951106 United States04/25/2010 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Once again... a BIRTH CERTIFICATE does not lawfully certify the place of live birth regardless of what legal procedures and policy were followed. Only a record of Live Birth that has been certified by witnesses to the birth is lawful proof of birth facts. |
| 2012gregg
User ID: 933586 United States04/25/2010 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I despise Obama more than you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 940610But this birther silliness makes you all look like idiots. Find all the other reasons and talk about him, like all the money given to him by Goldman Sachs and all the CFR in his admin. you gotta admit, there's something not right about this picture when not only is his birth certificate in question, all of his medical records and college transcripts are sealed. Obviously, he's hiding something Last Edited by greggin5d on 04/25/2010 12:57 PM in5D: [link to www.in5d.com] Maya 2012: [link to www.maya12-21-2012.com] in5d YouTube Channel: [link to www.youtube.com] |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 940610 United States04/25/2010 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I despise Obama more than you. Quoting: Angry Senator 951561YOU LIE! ;-) Obama is a Zionist Puppet hellbent on dragging America into yet another ill fated war in the name of Israel, spending us into poverty, and submitting is will to the elites at the CFR who bought and paid for his seat in the whitehouse. I despise this traitor MORE THAN YOU! And he was born in Hawaii.... |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 700544 United States04/25/2010 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I despise Obama more than you. Quoting: SallamBut this birther silliness makes you all look like idiots. Find all the other reasons and talk about him, like all the money given to him by Goldman Sachs and all the CFR in his admin. I tend to agree, if you see the controlled opposition heads like Glenn Beck leading you toward fighting this fight it is most likely a distraction, or an opportunity to discredit you later. Imagine after this whole movement of patriots has been fighting this birth certificate issue for all this time, and then bang, Obama just produces it. A lot of people would have wasted a lot of time fighting a losing battle and being distracted from other issues. It's definitely something people should think about. then why wont he show it he can end end the whole mess if you got nothing to hide problem solved a man doesent pay out millions of dolers to seal his records if he aint got nothing to hide go back to your fairytale world |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 952766 United States04/25/2010 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the copy presented to the public it says: Quoting: Skeptic the First 952749Under "City, Town or Location of Birth": HONOLULU Under "Island of Birth": OAHU Under "County of Birth": HONOLULU Obama was born in Hawaii. Please, foreigners, learn American practice before making stupid assertions. American states routinely issue fictitious "certificates of birth" to adopted children, in an attempt to "protect" them from their actual birth parents and circumstances. Also, a printout "presented to the public" by a charlatan is meaningless. The state of Hawaii has not presented anything, not even a computer printout, to the public in this matter. what foriegners, does having some inteligence make us foriegn, so only the RETARDED can be Americans these days, and yes, you birthers here are RETARDED, why do you think you were given up for adoption? |
| SixEyedcheeseball
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| tungfumastR NLI User ID: 519387 United States04/25/2010 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the birthers neglect to say about many of them is that the copy of his Birth Certificate was presented to the court. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 940610Then it would have been entered into the public record and we would have seen it. Do you have the link to this? |
