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Oil leak Gulf of Mexico: Mother of all gushers could kill Earth's oceans

 
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Imagine a pipe 5 feet wide spewing crude oil like a fire hose from what could be the planets' largest, high-pressure oil and gas reserve. With the best technology available to man, the Deepwater Horizon rig popped a hole into that reserve and was overwhelmed. If this isn't contained, it could poison all the oceans of the world.

"Well if you say the fire hose has a 70,000 psi pump on the other end yes! No comparison here. The volume out rises geometrically with pressure. Its a squares function. Two times the pressure is 4 times the push. The Alaska pipeline is 4 feet in diameter and pushes with a lot less pressure. This situation in the Gulf of Mexico is stunning dangerous." -- Paul Noel (May 2, 2010)

Last night we received the following text in an email, author not identified. I passed it by Paul Noel, who is an expert in the field. His response follows thereafter. In calculating the gallons required to kill the oceans, remember that oil goes to the surface, where life is concentrated.

The Oil Mess

The original estimate was about 5,000 gallons of oil a day spilling into the ocean. Now they're saying 200,000 gallons a day. That's over a million gallons of crude oil a week!

I'm engineer with 25 years of experience. I've worked on some big projects with big machines. Maybe that's why this mess is so clear to me.

First, the BP platform was drilling for what they call deep oil. They go out where the ocean is about 5,000 feet deep and drill another 30,000 feet into the crust of the earth. This it right on the edge of what human technology can do. Well, this time they hit a pocket of oil at such high pressure that it burst all of their safety valves all the way up to the drilling rig and then caused the rig to explode and sink. Take a moment to grasp the import of that. The pressure behind this oil is so high that it destroyed the maximum effort of human science to contain it.

When the rig sank it flipped over and landed on top of the drill hole some 5,000 feet under the ocean.

Now they've got a hole in the ocean floor, 5,000 feet down with a wrecked oil drilling rig sitting on top of is spewing 200,000 barrels of oil a day into the ocean. Take a moment and consider that, will you!

First they have to get the oil rig off the hole to get at it in order to try to cap it. Do you know the level of effort it will take to move that wrecked oil rig, sitting under 5,000 feet of water? That operation alone would take years and hundreds of millions to accomplish. Then, how do you cap that hole in the muddy ocean floor? There just is no way. No way.

The only piece of human technology that might address this is a nuclear bomb. I'm not kidding. If they put a nuke down there in the right spot it might seal up the hole. Nothing short of that will work. [See Paul Noel's ideas above.]

If we can't cap that hole that oil is going to destroy the oceans of the world. It only takes one quart of motor oil to make 250,000 gallons of ocean water toxic to wildlife. Are you starting to get the magnitude of this?

We're so used to our politicians creating false crises to forward their criminal agendas that we aren't recognizing that we're staring straight into possibly the greatest disaster mankind will ever see. Imagine what happens if that oil keeps flowing until it destroys all life in the oceans of this planet. Who knows how big of a reservoir of oil is down there.

Not to mention that the oceans are critical to maintaining the proper oxygen level in the atmosphere for human life.

We're humped. Unless God steps in and fixes this. No human can. You can be sure of that.

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Re: Oil leak Gulf of Mexico: Mother of all gushers could kill Earth's oceans
Do you realize how many times this has been posted?
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Do you realize how many times this has been posted?
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Can't be enough... and this should be pinned.

Very clear we all are in big trouble now.

Final warning to make the big step to zero-point energy...
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everybody freaks....how many realize the amount of
volcanism going on in the mid atlanic ridge that pumps
more chemicals into the ocean this this leak ever will
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everybody freaks....how many realize the amount of
volcanism going on in the mid atlanic ridge that pumps
more chemicals into the ocean this this leak ever will
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Hope you're kidding, otherwise I seriously doubt your intelligence...
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everybody freaks....how many realize the amount of
volcanism going on in the mid atlanic ridge that pumps
more chemicals into the ocean this this leak ever will
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 842974


How do you know?

The earth might be releasing oil and gases all the time but not at this immense rate. Otherwise why aren't we seeing oil slick sheets on the world oceans?
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Is this the Event Horizon, or is the name a pure coincident?



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Did not Steve Quayle, putting aside all the doubts about the reliability of his claims, say that many demons have their "abodes" in the deep seas and oceans?


Many UFOs are observed over large bodies of water, some of them entering or departing the lakes, seas, oceans.
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We're humped. Unless God steps in and fixes this. No human can. You can be sure of that.

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In calculating the gallons required to kill the oceans, remember that oil goes to the surface, where life is concentrated.
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FUCK THE GULF THIS SHIT IS NOTHING YOU GODDAMN HIPPIES!
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FUCK THE GULF THIS SHIT IS NOTHING YOU GODDAMN HIPPIES!
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Do I sense some sort of panic... or is it just denial?
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FUCK THE GULF THIS SHIT IS NOTHING YOU GODDAMN HIPPIES!


Do I sense some sort of panic... or is it just denial?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 941912


I can't stand all you hippies crying about this shit!

This is nothing!

Although I hope that it is huge! I hope it kills everything in the gulf!

muaha
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everybody freaks....how many realize the amount of
volcanism going on in the mid atlanic ridge that pumps
more chemicals into the ocean this this leak ever will


Hope you're kidding, otherwise I seriously doubt your intelligence...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 941912


You might be interested before you start judging one's intelligence:

The Ocean Studies Board and Marine Board of the National Academy of Sciences has published Oil in the Sea (2003) which summarizes sources of oil pollution:

Relative contribution of average, annual releases (1990-1999) of petroleum hydrocarbons (in kilotonnes) from natural seeps and activities associated with the extraction, transportation, and consumption of crude oil or refined products to the marine environment:

600 Kilotonnes from natural seeps

480 Kilotonnes from HUMAN Activities

160 KT from Petro Transport

38 KT from Extraction


Nearly 85 percent of the 29 million gallons of petroleum that enter North American ocean waters each year as a result of human activities comes from land-based runoff, polluted rivers, airplanes, and small boats and jet skis, while less than 8 percent comes from tanker or pipeline spills.

[link to oceanworld.tamu.edu]

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The guy who screams "FUCK ALL HIPPIES" would do so if he was drowning himself in crude oil.
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Nearly 85 percent of the 29 million gallons of petroleum that enter North American ocean waters each year as a result of human activities comes from land-based runoff, polluted rivers, airplanes, and small boats and jet skis, while less than 8 percent comes from tanker or pipeline spills.

[link to oceanworld.tamu.edu]

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 Quoting: TX PATRIOT 950567


So far that might have been the case.

But what we have here is something of epic proportions.
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My recommendation is to ignite the well on the ocean floor using high explosive or thermite and flare the oil as it gushes out much as gas is flared at oil refineries.

When they are ready to cap the well the fire could be extinguished.

IT'S THAT SIMPLE!
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IT'S THAT SIMPLE!
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I knew the real experts lurk on GLP
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everybody freaks....how many realize the amount of
volcanism going on in the mid atlanic ridge that pumps
more chemicals into the ocean this this leak ever will


Hope you're kidding, otherwise I seriously doubt your intelligence...


You might be interested before you start judging one's intelligence:

The Ocean Studies Board and Marine Board of the National Academy of Sciences has published Oil in the Sea (2003) which summarizes sources of oil pollution:

Relative contribution of average, annual releases (1990-1999) of petroleum hydrocarbons (in kilotonnes) from natural seeps and activities associated with the extraction, transportation, and consumption of crude oil or refined products to the marine environment:

600 Kilotonnes from natural seeps

480 Kilotonnes from HUMAN Activities

160 KT from Petro Transport

38 KT from Extraction


Nearly 85 percent of the 29 million gallons of petroleum that enter North American ocean waters each year as a result of human activities comes from land-based runoff, polluted rivers, airplanes, and small boats and jet skis, while less than 8 percent comes from tanker or pipeline spills.

[link to oceanworld.tamu.edu]

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 Quoting: TX PATRIOT 950567


when plants and animals die unnaturally its a problem.
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everybody freaks....how many realize the amount of
volcanism going on in the mid atlanic ridge that pumps
more chemicals into the ocean this this leak ever will


Hope you're kidding, otherwise I seriously doubt your intelligence...


You might be interested before you start judging one's intelligence:

The Ocean Studies Board and Marine Board of the National Academy of Sciences has published Oil in the Sea (2003) which summarizes sources of oil pollution:

Relative contribution of average, annual releases (1990-1999) of petroleum hydrocarbons (in kilotonnes) from natural seeps and activities associated with the extraction, transportation, and consumption of crude oil or refined products to the marine environment:

600 Kilotonnes from natural seeps

480 Kilotonnes from HUMAN Activities

160 KT from Petro Transport

38 KT from Extraction


Nearly 85 percent of the 29 million gallons of petroleum that enter North American ocean waters each year as a result of human activities comes from land-based runoff, polluted rivers, airplanes, and small boats and jet skis, while less than 8 percent comes from tanker or pipeline spills.

[link to oceanworld.tamu.edu]

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 Quoting: TX PATRIOT 950567

This one is without precedent...will see if man can put humpty dumpty back together again....
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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FUCK THE GULF THIS SHIT IS NOTHING YOU GODDAMN HIPPIES!


Do I sense some sort of panic... or is it just denial?


I can't stand all you hippies crying about this shit!

This is nothing!

Although I hope that it is huge! I hope it kills everything in the gulf!

muaha
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too fucking stupid..


If it kills the gulf, Acid Rain will come down on the south...

Killing the crops and creating famine, now consider this... we provide a LOT of fucking food for the world...... .


This is not GOOD!
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FUCK THE GULF THIS SHIT IS NOTHING YOU GODDAMN HIPPIES!


Do I sense some sort of panic... or is it just denial?


I can't stand all you hippies crying about this shit!

This is nothing!

Although I hope that it is huge! I hope it kills everything in the gulf!

muaha



too fucking stupid..


If it kills the gulf, Acid Rain will come down on the south...

Killing the crops and creating famine, now consider this... we provide a LOT of fucking food for the world...... .


This is not GOOD!
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You are a dumb fucking hippie.
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The part that is most concerning is that they should have anticipated this and had preventative measure in place.

The fact that they didn't have a way to stop something like this and now no one knows how to turn it off is more concerning.

What about all the other rigs in place and drilling away?

But it sure put a damper on all the off shore drilling politics....Hmmmm

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this shows that it's not as bad! Doomers!
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So far that might have been the case.

But what we have here is something of epic proportions.
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While it will be devastating, tragic and even possibly epic, it is not unprecedented. The IXTOC in Campeche released between 10K and 30K bbls per day for eight or nine months. It was devastating but the Gulf and the oceans are still here.

The author in the OP's piece is full of shit.

A pipe five feet wide?? LMAO There is not a pipe NOR a hole five feet wide at the wellhead (still intact from what I have read).

The well head is clear from rig debris

The hole is not wide open; rather there is 1,500 feet of pipe extending from the well head that is crimped. I'll see if I can locate the diagram.

His numbers don't add up regarding his sensational claim that all the oceans of the world will be destroyed. Run the numbers on three to six months (time to relieve pressure with relief wells and cap), look at the numbers I provided in my last post as well as some history here (execute the cumulative calculations along with the numbers provided in my previous post):

[link to www.marinergroup.com]

[link to www.infoplease.com]

He knows the flow will be stopped with a relief well (or two) and capping - albeit several months. Instead of describing that process, he sensationalizes.

And if this guy is suggesting a nuke, then I suggest he obtained his engineering degree at WalMart.

Then...LMAO...he states our only hope is that God steps in and fixes the well head.

And people just fall for it all hook, line and sinker without one bit of research or questioning.

Gotta get a slice 'o that mega doom....even if it isn't set in reality...gotta get me some. Reminds me of the Beggin' Strips dog...

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So far that might have been the case.

But what we have here is something of epic proportions.


While it will be devastating, tragic and even possibly epic, it is not unprecedented. The IXTOC in Campeche released between 10K and 30K bbls per day for eight or nine months. It was devastating but the Gulf and the oceans are still here.

The author in the OP's piece is full of shit.

A pipe five feet wide?? LMAO There is not a pipe NOR a hole five feet wide at the wellhead (still intact from what I have read).

The well head is clear from rig debris

The hole is not wide open; rather there is 1,500 feet of pipe extending from the well head that is crimped. I'll see if I can locate the diagram.

His numbers don't add up regarding his sensational claim that all the oceans of the world will be destroyed. Run the numbers on three to six months (time to relieve pressure with relief wells and cap), look at the numbers I provided in my last post as well as some history here (execute the cumulative calculations along with the numbers provided in my previous post):

[link to www.marinergroup.com]

[link to www.infoplease.com]

He knows the flow will be stopped with a relief well (or two) and capping - albeit several months. Instead of describing that process, he sensationalizes.

And if this guy is suggesting a nuke, then I suggest he obtained his engineering degree at WalMart.

Then...LMAO...he states our only hope is that God steps in and fixes the well head.

And people just fall for it all hook, line and sinker without one bit of research or questioning.

Gotta get a slice 'o that mega doom....even if it isn't set in reality...gotta get me some. Reminds me of the Beggin' Strips dog...

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 Quoting: TX PATRIOT 950567



Get your facts straight... IXTOC in Campeche leaked 8-9 mil gallons TOTAL. This leaked that in the first week!!

The fact that no one has any idea how to stop it tells you all you need to know.

Pipe down jr.
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This one is without precedent...will see if man can put humpty dumpty back together again....
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Rex, it is not unprecedented. The IXTOC released between 10K and 30K bbls per day for nine months (those are numbers from Pemex). Yes, it was ecologically devastating but the Gulf and the oceans are still here.

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Get your facts straight... IXTOC in Campeche leaked 8-9 mil gallons TOTAL. This leaked that in the first week!!

The fact that no one has any idea how to stop it tells you all you need to know.

Pipe down jr.
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Sorry, my friend, IXTOC released approx 3 million BARRELS total over nine months. You better check your sources.

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The fact that no one has any idea how to stop it tells you all you need to know.

Pipe down jr.
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Yes, they do and you would realize it if you would rub those two brain cells together and research.

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FUCK THE GULF THIS SHIT IS NOTHING YOU GODDAMN HIPPIES!


Do I sense some sort of panic... or is it just denial?


I can't stand all you hippies crying about this shit!

This is nothing!

Although I hope that it is huge! I hope it kills everything in the gulf!

muaha
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You sound like that corporate dickhead in Avatar.
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The only way the crude will hurt a thing is if it has been poisoned purposely. Fish and marine life will eat it. There's been many a story in such places as scientific american, and tv documentary. Nothin to worry about. Shipping destroyed in world war 2 was worse for oil spills.
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Sorry, my friend, IXTOC released approx 3 million BARRELS total over nine months. You better check your sources.

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This is of great comfort knowing it isn't as bad, TX Patriot





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