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Anonymous Coward User ID: 747162 United States 05/08/2010 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Crossbows have a shorter range, less power and are more cumbersome than handguns. They do not have anywhere near the stopping power and can become unloaded if you are not orienting them correctly or have a special keeper on them. Most importantly on the negative side, they are slow. BUT... They are quiet. They look enough like a gun to cause people to respond with terror as if to a gun when one is pointed at them. This is a psychological thing, you KNOW it's not a handgun, you may even know the stats as to what they can do...But it's still hard to put yourself into a position where you could simply take it away from a person, even though it would be technically easier than with a gun. They also have fewer legal issues involved in some areas. I would personally prefer having one if I was under attack at home to NOT having anything with which to protect myself. It's better than going into a gunfight empty handed for instance. Plus you can learn to make your own. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 901121 United States 05/08/2010 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | QUICK REFERENCE CHART Rifles and Shotguns Handguns Permit to Purchase No* Yes Registration of Firearms No* Yes Licensing of Owners No* Yes Permit to Carry No* Yes *Except in New York City Purchase: No permit is required for the purchase of a rifle or shotgun (except in New York City). No person, firm or corporation engaged in the retail business of selling rifles, shotguns or handguns, shall sell, deliver or transfer any such gun to another person unless the transferee is provided with a gun locking device and a label on safe storage. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 961245 Philippines 05/08/2010 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From this site [link to www.nysrpa.org] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 901121QUICK REFERENCE CHART Rifles and Shotguns Handguns Permit to Purchase No* Yes Registration of Firearms No* Yes Licensing of Owners No* Yes Permit to Carry No* Yes *Except in New York City Purchase: No permit is required for the purchase of a rifle or shotgun (except in New York City). No person, firm or corporation engaged in the retail business of selling rifles, shotguns or handguns, shall sell, deliver or transfer any such gun to another person unless the transferee is provided with a gun locking device and a label on safe storage. New york city :( |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 747162 United States 05/08/2010 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. Too bulky and difficult to reload. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961245Any suggestions? there are pistol sized crossbows available. But what's a good alternative for people who cant get handguns? Ninja weapons such as Sai, Bo, nunchuks? This will sound a little strange, but have you considered a slingshot? Firing screws or bolts (as in hardware bolts) they can be lethal, they are silent weapons and can be much faster than a crossbow. They are not a "super weapon" true, but they give you range and speed of attack without a large amount of bulk. I am speaking of the "wrist rocket" type of slingshot, not the old shepherds sling. Those are too hard to use quickly and don't give you the accuracy you need. Stay away from fancy martial arts weapons in general and get a stick, about four foot long, and learn to use it. (I recommend A Japanese Jo style or something simpler like French La canne.) It won't take long to become proficient and worst case scenario, you can open up on a person as if with a baseball bat. Bo lengths are too long, Sai are meant to fight against swords and while impressive looking don't have much utility in the modern age for home defense, Nunchuks are a silly weapon and always were. I have seen to many experts manage to hit themselves with their own weapons in a real fight with these. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 961245 Philippines 05/08/2010 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Buy yourself one of these and the adapter gizmo at the bottom of the page. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22038[link to www.keepshooting.com] how effective is a flare gun? |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 961245 Philippines 05/08/2010 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. Too bulky and difficult to reload. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 747162Any suggestions? there are pistol sized crossbows available. But what's a good alternative for people who cant get handguns? Ninja weapons such as Sai, Bo, nunchuks? This will sound a little strange, but have you considered a slingshot? Firing screws or bolts (as in hardware bolts) they can be lethal, they are silent weapons and can be much faster than a crossbow. They are not a "super weapon" true, but they give you range and speed of attack without a large amount of bulk. I am speaking of the "wrist rocket" type of slingshot, not the old shepherds sling. Those are too hard to use quickly and don't give you the accuracy you need. Stay away from fancy martial arts weapons in general and get a stick, about four foot long, and learn to use it. (I recommend A Japanese Jo style or something simpler like French La canne.) It won't take long to become proficient and worst case scenario, you can open up on a person as if with a baseball bat. Bo lengths are too long, Sai are meant to fight against swords and while impressive looking don't have much utility in the modern age for home defense, Nunchuks are a silly weapon and always were. I have seen to many experts manage to hit themselves with their own weapons in a real fight with these. Thanks for your advice, I might check out some slingshots |
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User ID: 800077 United States 05/08/2010 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Buy yourself one of these and the adapter gizmo at the bottom of the page. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961245[link to www.keepshooting.com] how effective is a flare gun? work wonders in letting the ambulance crew know where to pick up your body ;) take this at your own risk: i have shot 12 gauge shotgun shells in a 12 gauge launcher, which most are. using birdshot "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 961245 Philippines 05/08/2010 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if you are seriously worried about surviving, laws don't mean a fucking thing, seriously. i know damn well you could get yourself a handgun in new york city Quoting: maluif following laws will get you dead, i would break laws all day long unfortunately I dont know anyone in low places who can hook me up with a glock or whatever... :( |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 901121 United States 05/08/2010 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From this site [link to www.nysrpa.org] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961245QUICK REFERENCE CHART Rifles and Shotguns Handguns Permit to Purchase No* Yes Registration of Firearms No* Yes Licensing of Owners No* Yes Permit to Carry No* Yes *Except in New York City Purchase: No permit is required for the purchase of a rifle or shotgun (except in New York City). No person, firm or corporation engaged in the retail business of selling rifles, shotguns or handguns, shall sell, deliver or transfer any such gun to another person unless the transferee is provided with a gun locking device and a label on safe storage. New york city :( If its for home defense get a shot gun. |
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User ID: 861896 United States 05/08/2010 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I live in a state(NY) where it's impossible to get a handgun license. However I could buy a crossbow at lot easier than trying to get a gun for self defense.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961245[link to www.amazon.com] buy a good 12 guage flare gun... you can buy 2 inch buckshot for it... flare guns are not illegal. crossbows are too big and too heavy |
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User ID: 906000 United States 05/08/2010 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and then this happens when TSHTF: it's all in the way that you've molted..for some it may be more of a melting process in some form or another. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22038 United States 05/08/2010 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Buy yourself one of these and the adapter gizmo at the bottom of the page. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961245[link to www.keepshooting.com] how effective is a flare gun? Put one of these in it. [link to www.ammunitiontogo.com] |
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User ID: 800077 United States 05/08/2010 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | damn malu we think alike... I didn't even read the other posts... Quoting: EnigmaHK makes an excellent steel flare gun and you can get inserts to shoot 12 guage flares or small 12 guage shells... where there is a will there is a way. i'll make a potato cannon if i have to! i have shot needle like arrows out of a wrist rocket that would really ruin someones day definitely go through body armor as well oops, did i just say that? "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |
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User ID: 800077 United States 05/08/2010 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22038 holy crap their prices are high! shop around, especially on API ammo. think i will order some of their smoke grenades though. toss a green one and people will think it is chem/bio :) "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |
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User ID: 950535 United States 05/08/2010 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961245 280 fps sucks. There is a reason that thing is $32 It sucks. Please save your money to get something better. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 964558 Canada 05/08/2010 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A good slingshot in the right hands is an awesome weapon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 849621A crossbow is an excellent back-up weapon. With 30 cal lead filled steel balls and a lot of practice you can kill a man with these. At 15 feet a 30 Cal ball flying at 325 fps from a Canadian Tire wrist rocket, will penetrate the skull. If that does not kill immediately, it will render him incapable of fighting back while you cut hit throat with your backup commando dagger. |