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Anonymous Coward User ID: 920659 United States 05/18/2010 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm unable to one more time read comments like 'we deserve this' and 'we did this to ourselves' and 'we deserve what we're going to get' without putting forth the following. Quoting: 6D Wanderer 973140WE, humanity, did not do this and WE, humanity, do not deserve this. Those of you espousing, and moreover feeling, such comments are guilt-tripping yourselves erroneously. With regard to the disaster in the gulf (and all other "man-made problems"), whether it's an accident or a purposeful ploy, it's a bare few relative to the remainder of the population who are finitely responsible. There's a number of groups of people, over many years, who protested drilling in the gulf, and elsewhere. There's a number of groups of people who have for years and years lobbied in many ways for alternative energies, and one President (Carter) who did all that he could to install alternative energy programs in this country 30 years ago only to have them trashed by another President (Reagan). It's not as if no effort has never been made to create a better way, yes? But the disaster in the gulf is only a tiniest fraction of the larger picture, and is systemic of a much larger catastrophe that has plagued humanity unceasingly. I move forward with this to a conclusion of why this guilt-tripping I see so many enacting is to (understatedly) no good end. None, at all. The following is a part of a quote from Ani Difranco. It's not who the person that called me to cite this quote, it's the profundity of what is said-- "We barely have time to react in this world, let alone rehearse..." We barely have time to react in this world because the game rules are constantly being changed within offices where WE are not allowed; and not only are we not allowed, we are not intended to ever know how, what, and why they're scheming. These power plays have been going on for millenia, long before you or I ever existed. These power plays are advocated and superficially rewarded by inhuman entities who covertly staged their game plan without an opportunity for humanity to rehearse their parts, be conscious of their lines, and walk off the stage before they could be implicated as actors in the playwright's creation. We live edged on the slippery slope of an inhuman and inhumane subversive rabbit hole not created by WE. Since the beginning of time the clock-face (aka this reality) has been sprung to tick-tock as a means to an end that does not serve the greater good of the "entireness" of humanity...I put entireness in quotes because it bespeaks of how all too many of our spirits are so worn out from hanging on to an edge where the proverbial rug has historically, consistently, and constantly been pulled out from underneath our feet within those offices where we are not allowed to tread. We hang on to that slippery edge for our dear lives so we don't become like them. What we see happening in our (ahem) civilization today, what is pissing us off and breaking so many of our hearts, is not finitely due to the communal individual's abnegation of responsibility. Infinitesimally the responsibility "lies" with the entities who (so to speak) sprang the clock millenia ago, and with those who through time-corrupted sit in seats of power abnegating responsibility by acting as willing puppets tethered to the ends of the chains that tie and bind humanity. Like hate, unrighteous anger, and fear, guilt (guilt relevant to this post's subject matter) is a base tool of the inhuman, inhumane. By drawing this guilt into your hearts and awareness's you are "playing" into their trap. You are acting to serve their agenda...the destruction of your spirit. Given enough human spirit subdued and destructed it's then game over, and humanity loses. Perhaps it will be that some of us, as individuals/souls, will be capable of avoiding slipping into the game-plan rabbit hole, if we do experience that ultimate loss and humanity becomes but a ghost of a blip on the radar of existence. Perhaps some of us will indeed walk offstage as conscientious objectors, but if I'm one of those individuals/souls it will not be done with glee. It will be the most bitterness of sweetness to bear. You see, as a 6D Wanderer I know, beyond any shadow of doubt that can be cast over humanity, that as originally created we are a beautiful and dynamic species, capable of unbounded and honorable beingness. I know this because I have been this; I do have some bare memories of living as a human with all human-body DNA intact and fully functional. And pardon my loftiness (if you'll find me verbose), but I did not return to this rabbit-hell-hole to play tiddlywinks and stand idly by while humanity slips down the drain into a vortextual energy sewer where only the inhuman and inhumane are comfortable and sated. I returned to be of service. This post is me extending my service, today. Ultimately, I cannot stop you from blaming yourselves and feeling guilt. Humans don't come with magic switches another human can just flick, and voila!, presto chango. No matter how evolved my soul and awareness might be, another's transformation comes from within, not from without. Yet, what I can do is plant a seed, a light bulb poised for a spark of awareness to enlighten...if you Will. I will maintain, until my last breath in this toxic environment, that every moment you spend feeling guilty - 'we deserve this' and 'we did this to ourselves' 'we deserve what we get' - about something like the gulf disaster you are doing so with one foot, if not a whole leg, over the edge of the slippery slope and into the miasmic subversity most of you quite consciously want no part of throughout your minds, bodies, and spirits. Guilt and all other base emotions are the tools of those who want you to feel such baseness into being, into your moment to moment be-coming...please try and understand this. Try and understand that, ultimately, these manipulative tools are used as a means to the end of human spiritual genocide. They create an emotional Catch 22 that you really don't want to be caught within if you bear hope to survive and thrive beyond the confines of this staged arena, this realm of existence. I belong to no religion. I belong to no political party. I do not raise money above the well being of others. I am a Wanderer. An individual who has been there and done that, whether you chose to believe me or not. From my now aching heart to yours I am imploring of you, if you've not yet, to get a hold of yourselves, to reject the covert manipulation, and to... Resist the spiritual genocide of humanity. I plan on spirit-fully striding away from this "makeshift" stage when Zero Point comes to pass/transition. It is a dearest hope of mine to find you all around me. We are - even in our chopped up DNA stature, with all the shortcomings such a state of being heaps on us - worthy of better than this. FEEL this worthiness, and nothing less. There's Teacher here and There's Warriors The Teaching time is OVER!!! Those Warriors will give their LIFE for Humanity!!! Like in the OLD TIME!!! The past, Present and Future is NOW!!! Their is no SOLUTION to OUR problem.... those VRIL HYBRID SHITBIRD HAVE TO GO!!! Entk!!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 717453 United States 05/18/2010 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do they want to do that? To get themselves out of the shit? Are you talking about the negative harvest? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 974140They're doing it to show us what we're not aren't they? Only it's up to us to see it. Is that it? What he/she said + cui bono/ how bono. |
Lover of ALMIGHTY GOD User ID: 954680 United States 05/18/2010 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm unable to one more time read comments like 'we deserve this' and 'we did this to ourselves' and 'we deserve what we're going to get' without putting forth the following. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 920659WE, humanity, did not do this and WE, humanity, do not deserve this. Those of you espousing, and moreover feeling, such comments are guilt-tripping yourselves erroneously. With regard to the disaster in the gulf (and all other "man-made problems"), whether it's an accident or a purposeful ploy, it's a bare few relative to the remainder of the population who are finitely responsible. There's a number of groups of people, over many years, who protested drilling in the gulf, and elsewhere. There's a number of groups of people who have for years and years lobbied in many ways for alternative energies, and one President (Carter) who did all that he could to install alternative energy programs in this country 30 years ago only to have them trashed by another President (Reagan). It's not as if no effort has never been made to create a better way, yes? But the disaster in the gulf is only a tiniest fraction of the larger picture, and is systemic of a much larger catastrophe that has plagued humanity unceasingly. I move forward with this to a conclusion of why this guilt-tripping I see so many enacting is to (understatedly) no good end. None, at all. The following is a part of a quote from Ani Difranco. It's not who the person that called me to cite this quote, it's the profundity of what is said-- "We barely have time to react in this world, let alone rehearse..." We barely have time to react in this world because the game rules are constantly being changed within offices where WE are not allowed; and not only are we not allowed, we are not intended to ever know how, what, and why they're scheming. These power plays have been going on for millenia, long before you or I ever existed. These power plays are advocated and superficially rewarded by inhuman entities who covertly staged their game plan without an opportunity for humanity to rehearse their parts, be conscious of their lines, and walk off the stage before they could be implicated as actors in the playwright's creation. We live edged on the slippery slope of an inhuman and inhumane subversive rabbit hole not created by WE. Since the beginning of time the clock-face (aka this reality) has been sprung to tick-tock as a means to an end that does not serve the greater good of the "entireness" of humanity...I put entireness in quotes because it bespeaks of how all too many of our spirits are so worn out from hanging on to an edge where the proverbial rug has historically, consistently, and constantly been pulled out from underneath our feet within those offices where we are not allowed to tread. We hang on to that slippery edge for our dear lives so we don't become like them. What we see happening in our (ahem) civilization today, what is pissing us off and breaking so many of our hearts, is not finitely due to the communal individual's abnegation of responsibility. Infinitesimally the responsibility "lies" with the entities who (so to speak) sprang the clock millenia ago, and with those who through time-corrupted sit in seats of power abnegating responsibility by acting as willing puppets tethered to the ends of the chains that tie and bind humanity. Like hate, unrighteous anger, and fear, guilt (guilt relevant to this post's subject matter) is a base tool of the inhuman, inhumane. By drawing this guilt into your hearts and awareness's you are "playing" into their trap. You are acting to serve their agenda...the destruction of your spirit. Given enough human spirit subdued and destructed it's then game over, and humanity loses. Perhaps it will be that some of us, as individuals/souls, will be capable of avoiding slipping into the game-plan rabbit hole, if we do experience that ultimate loss and humanity becomes but a ghost of a blip on the radar of existence. Perhaps some of us will indeed walk offstage as conscientious objectors, but if I'm one of those individuals/souls it will not be done with glee. It will be the most bitterness of sweetness to bear. You see, as a 6D Wanderer I know, beyond any shadow of doubt that can be cast over humanity, that as originally created we are a beautiful and dynamic species, capable of unbounded and honorable beingness. I know this because I have been this; I do have some bare memories of living as a human with all human-body DNA intact and fully functional. And pardon my loftiness (if you'll find me verbose), but I did not return to this rabbit-hell-hole to play tiddlywinks and stand idly by while humanity slips down the drain into a vortextual energy sewer where only the inhuman and inhumane are comfortable and sated. I returned to be of service. This post is me extending my service, today. Ultimately, I cannot stop you from blaming yourselves and feeling guilt. Humans don't come with magic switches another human can just flick, and voila!, presto chango. No matter how evolved my soul and awareness might be, another's transformation comes from within, not from without. Yet, what I can do is plant a seed, a light bulb poised for a spark of awareness to enlighten...if you Will. I will maintain, until my last breath in this toxic environment, that every moment you spend feeling guilty - 'we deserve this' and 'we did this to ourselves' 'we deserve what we get' - about something like the gulf disaster you are doing so with one foot, if not a whole leg, over the edge of the slippery slope and into the miasmic subversity most of you quite consciously want no part of throughout your minds, bodies, and spirits. Guilt and all other base emotions are the tools of those who want you to feel such baseness into being, into your moment to moment be-coming...please try and understand this. Try and understand that, ultimately, these manipulative tools are used as a means to the end of human spiritual genocide. They create an emotional Catch 22 that you really don't want to be caught within if you bear hope to survive and thrive beyond the confines of this staged arena, this realm of existence. I belong to no religion. I belong to no political party. I do not raise money above the well being of others. I am a Wanderer. An individual who has been there and done that, whether you chose to believe me or not. From my now aching heart to yours I am imploring of you, if you've not yet, to get a hold of yourselves, to reject the covert manipulation, and to... Resist the spiritual genocide of humanity. I plan on spirit-fully striding away from this "makeshift" stage when Zero Point comes to pass/transition. It is a dearest hope of mine to find you all around me. We are - even in our chopped up DNA stature, with all the shortcomings such a state of being heaps on us - worthy of better than this. FEEL this worthiness, and nothing less. There's Teacher here and There's Warriors The Teaching time is OVER!!! Those Warriors will give their LIFE for Humanity!!! Like in the OLD TIME!!! The past, Present and Future is NOW!!! Their is no SOLUTION to OUR problem.... those VRIL HYBRID SHITBIRD HAVE TO GO!!! Entk!!! Anonymous Coward 920659: You have completely misunderstood this message. Giving your life for Humanity is EXACTLY WHAT THE LIAR WANTS and has always wanted: BLOOD SACRIFICE. This is a SPIRITUAL BATTLE, and only the One True Almighty God can save you and everyone else that turns to HIM. Things are ramping up because the Beast-Liar knows that time is short; turn to the One True Almighty God the true Creator and He will shield you and protect you and your land, and your animals. He does not condemn, He does not hold anyone guilty of actions which were taken based upon deceit. And it is deception that causes mankind to believe that it is guilty of murder, of genocide, of planetary destruction. It is the Deceiver and his seed that seeks to enslave and destroy anything that does not serve him. Guilt is the cheapest tool they have. Turn to the One True God and He shall keep thee in perfect PEACE, for all time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 974140 Australia 05/18/2010 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do they want to do that? To get themselves out of the shit? Are you talking about the negative harvest? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 717453They're doing it to show us what we're not aren't they? Only it's up to us to see it. Is that it? What he/she said + cui bono/ how bono. OP, with respect, can you address these questions please? It's important. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 300884 Sweden 05/18/2010 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By drawing this guilt into your hearts and awareness's you are "playing" into their trap. You are acting to serve their agenda...the destruction of your spirit. Given enough human spirit subdued and destructed it's then game over, and humanity loses. Quoting: 6D Wanderer 973140Every word said in the OP's post is true, but this is the core of it. Do not willingly participate in your own spiritual destruction in any way, folks. Much depends on everyone wisening up in this regard, and fast. The easiest way to make sure you don't draw in the negative thoughts that are so temptingly placed before you, is to actively draw in positive thoughts instead. Be vigilant. Keep your focus on what's Holy and True at all times, and your spirit is eternally safe. Perhaps it will be that some of us, as individuals/souls, will be capable of avoiding slipping into the game-plan rabbit hole, if we do experience that ultimate loss and humanity becomes but a ghost of a blip on the radar of existence. Perhaps some of us will indeed walk offstage as conscientious objectors, but if I'm one of those individuals/souls it will not be done with glee. It will be the most bitterness of sweetness to bear. Quoting: 6D Wanderer 973140And this is precisely what the more enlightened among us feel about the situation. No-one wants to "win" the game individually, only to have to stand aside and watch the rest lose! We Love every one of you, dammit! |
6D Wanderer (OP) User ID: 973140 United States 05/18/2010 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do they want to do that? To get themselves out of the shit? Are you talking about the negative harvest? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 974140They're doing it to show us what we're not aren't they? Only it's up to us to see it. Is that it? I really have a problem with the word "harvest" when discussing human beings, but yeah, at Zero Point those whose energy is not strong enough to, so to speak, walk away from the "rabbit hole" will be recycled back into the same set and stage, to the same end--basically, they require our negative emotional energy to survive. Therefore, to say it's to "get themselves out of the shit" is not applicable. Parasites could care less about "the shit" as long as they're fed. Give a negative hyperdimensional fear, hate, lust, greed, anger and they're fat, happy, and sated. Utimately, it is up to us to see what is going on beyond what our two eyes can see. It's up to us not to support their parasitic nature. Wanderers, and others, "came to life" to be of aide. To be the One Eye that reveals what is otherwise not seen. There's so many ways all this can and should be discussed, but my concentration, my area, is with regard to emotions. I am a healer, not a fighter. I stopped being a sword-out Spiritual Warrior years ago. It's a cycle I have chosen not to perpetuate. Even so, if I have to I will rise to the call. For now, though, I choose to work through words and thoughtfullness with regard to what people are doing with their emotions...and me, too, what I do with mine. Perhaps others will have more to offer in way of explanation, in ways I'm not well versed. |
6D Wanderer (OP) User ID: 973140 United States 05/18/2010 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do they want to do that? To get themselves out of the shit? Are you talking about the negative harvest? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 974140They're doing it to show us what we're not aren't they? Only it's up to us to see it. Is that it? I have to return to this. To say "they're doing it to show us what we're not" implies, at least in my conscience, that they're doing us a service. The only ones they want to serve are themselves. So I best understand, was this implied in your question, that they're doing us a service through their activities? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 974140 Australia 05/18/2010 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I really have a problem with the word "harvest" when discussing human beings, but yeah, at Zero Point those whose energy is not strong enough to, so to speak, walk away from the "rabbit hole" will be recycled back into the same set and stage, to the same end--basically, they require our negative emotional energy to survive. Therefore, to say it's to "get themselves out of the shit" is not applicable. Parasites could care less about "the shit" as long as they're fed. Give a negative hyperdimensional fear, hate, lust, greed, anger and they're fat, happy, and sated. Quoting: 6D Wanderer 973140Utimately, it is up to us to see what is going on beyond what our two eyes can see. It's up to us not to support their parasitic nature. Wanderers, and others, "came to life" to be of aide. To be the One Eye that reveals what is otherwise not seen. There's so many ways all this can and should be discussed, but my concentration, my area, is with regard to emotions. I am a healer, not a fighter. I stopped being a sword-out Spiritual Warrior years ago. It's a cycle I have chosen not to perpetuate. Even so, if I have to I will rise to the call. For now, though, I choose to work through words and thoughtfullness with regard to what people are doing with their emotions...and me, too, what I do with mine. Perhaps others will have more to offer in way of explanation, in ways I'm not well versed. Thank you. I appreciate you taking the time to answer. Could you talk a little bit more about how best to use emotions? |
Kent User ID: 956960 Poland 05/18/2010 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Like in the OLD TIME!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 920659The past, Present and Future is NOW!!! Their is no SOLUTION to OUR problem.... those VRIL HYBRID SHITBIRD HAVE TO GO!!! Entk!!! You want old time to come back?? There's Teacher here and There's Warriors Quoting: Anonymous Coward 920659The Teaching time is OVER!!! Those Warriors will give their LIFE for Humanity!!! about humanity, i would love if they would cherish theirs instead of daying for it |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 974140 Australia 05/18/2010 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do they want to do that? To get themselves out of the shit? Are you talking about the negative harvest? Quoting: 6D Wanderer 973140They're doing it to show us what we're not aren't they? Only it's up to us to see it. Is that it? I have to return to this. To say "they're doing it to show us what we're not" implies, at least in my conscience, that they're doing us a service. The only ones they want to serve are themselves. So I best understand, was this implied in your question, that they're doing us a service through their activities? Well yeah kinds, for 2 reasons... 1st: That was how it was implied by the Hidden_Hand story. And the second reason was once I thought a bit more on it, being that all is One, doesn't that mean that everyone is in service to others whether they know it or not? Whether they want to or not? Either directly or indirectly. |
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User ID: 974299 United States 05/18/2010 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm unable to one more time read comments like 'we deserve this' and 'we did this to ourselves' and 'we deserve what we're going to get' without putting forth the following. Quoting: 6D Wanderer 973140WE, humanity, did not do this and WE, humanity, do not deserve this. Those of you espousing, and moreover feeling, such comments are guilt-tripping yourselves erroneously. With regard to the disaster in the gulf (and all other "man-made problems"), whether it's an accident or a purposeful ploy, it's a bare few relative to the remainder of the population who are finitely responsible. There's a number of groups of people, over many years, who protested drilling in the gulf, and elsewhere. There's a number of groups of people who have for years and years lobbied in many ways for alternative energies, and one President (Carter) who did all that he could to install alternative energy programs in this country 30 years ago only to have them trashed by another President (Reagan). It's not as if no effort has never been made to create a better way, yes? But the disaster in the gulf is only a tiniest fraction of the larger picture, and is systemic of a much larger catastrophe that has plagued humanity unceasingly. I move forward with this to a conclusion of why this guilt-tripping I see so many enacting is to (understatedly) no good end. None, at all. The following is a part of a quote from Ani Difranco. It's not who the person that called me to cite this quote, it's the profundity of what is said-- "We barely have time to react in this world, let alone rehearse..." We barely have time to react in this world because the game rules are constantly being changed within offices where WE are not allowed; and not only are we not allowed, we are not intended to ever know how, what, and why they're scheming. These power plays have been going on for millenia, long before you or I ever existed. These power plays are advocated and superficially rewarded by inhuman entities who covertly staged their game plan without an opportunity for humanity to rehearse their parts, be conscious of their lines, and walk off the stage before they could be implicated as actors in the playwright's creation. We live edged on the slippery slope of an inhuman and inhumane subversive rabbit hole not created by WE. Since the beginning of time the clock-face (aka this reality) has been sprung to tick-tock as a means to an end that does not serve the greater good of the "entireness" of humanity...I put entireness in quotes because it bespeaks of how all too many of our spirits are so worn out from hanging on to an edge where the proverbial rug has historically, consistently, and constantly been pulled out from underneath our feet within those offices where we are not allowed to tread. We hang on to that slippery edge for our dear lives so we don't become like them. What we see happening in our (ahem) civilization today, what is pissing us off and breaking so many of our hearts, is not finitely due to the communal individual's abnegation of responsibility. Infinitesimally the responsibility "lies" with the entities who (so to speak) sprang the clock millenia ago, and with those who through time-corrupted sit in seats of power abnegating responsibility by acting as willing puppets tethered to the ends of the chains that tie and bind humanity. Like hate, unrighteous anger, and fear, guilt (guilt relevant to this post's subject matter) is a base tool of the inhuman, inhumane. By drawing this guilt into your hearts and awareness's you are "playing" into their trap. You are acting to serve their agenda...the destruction of your spirit. Given enough human spirit subdued and destructed it's then game over, and humanity loses. Perhaps it will be that some of us, as individuals/souls, will be capable of avoiding slipping into the game-plan rabbit hole, if we do experience that ultimate loss and humanity becomes but a ghost of a blip on the radar of existence. Perhaps some of us will indeed walk offstage as conscientious objectors, but if I'm one of those individuals/souls it will not be done with glee. It will be the most bitterness of sweetness to bear. You see, as a 6D Wanderer I know, beyond any shadow of doubt that can be cast over humanity, that as originally created we are a beautiful and dynamic species, capable of unbounded and honorable beingness. I know this because I have been this; I do have some bare memories of living as a human with all human-body DNA intact and fully functional. And pardon my loftiness (if you'll find me verbose), but I did not return to this rabbit-hell-hole to play tiddlywinks and stand idly by while humanity slips down the drain into a vortextual energy sewer where only the inhuman and inhumane are comfortable and sated. I returned to be of service. This post is me extending my service, today. Ultimately, I cannot stop you from blaming yourselves and feeling guilt. Humans don't come with magic switches another human can just flick, and voila!, presto chango. No matter how evolved my soul and awareness might be, another's transformation comes from within, not from without. Yet, what I can do is plant a seed, a light bulb poised for a spark of awareness to enlighten...if you Will. I will maintain, until my last breath in this toxic environment, that every moment you spend feeling guilty - 'we deserve this' and 'we did this to ourselves' 'we deserve what we get' - about something like the gulf disaster you are doing so with one foot, if not a whole leg, over the edge of the slippery slope and into the miasmic subversity most of you quite consciously want no part of throughout your minds, bodies, and spirits. Guilt and all other base emotions are the tools of those who want you to feel such baseness into being, into your moment to moment be-coming...please try and understand this. Try and understand that, ultimately, these manipulative tools are used as a means to the end of human spiritual genocide. They create an emotional Catch 22 that you really don't want to be caught within if you bear hope to survive and thrive beyond the confines of this staged arena, this realm of existence. I belong to no religion. I belong to no political party. I do not raise money above the well being of others. I am a Wanderer. An individual who has been there and done that, whether you chose to believe me or not. From my now aching heart to yours I am imploring of you, if you've not yet, to get a hold of yourselves, to reject the covert manipulation, and to... Resist the spiritual genocide of humanity. I plan on spirit-fully striding away from this "makeshift" stage when Zero Point comes to pass/transition. It is a dearest hope of mine to find you all around me. We are - even in our chopped up DNA stature, with all the shortcomings such a state of being heaps on us - worthy of better than this. FEEL this worthiness, and nothing less. What you said is beautiful and it brought me to tears! Yes! YOU are absolutely correct! Yes you are. Thank you! SPEAK UP. SILENCE IS DEADLY! I am currently experiencing life at several WTFs per hour. |
Rex Kristos
User ID: 90749 United States 05/18/2010 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I plan on spirit-fully striding away from this "makeshift" stage when Zero Point comes to pass/transition. It is a dearest hope of mine to find you all around me. Quoting: 6D Wanderer 973140We are - even in our chopped up DNA stature, with all the shortcomings such a state of being heaps on us - worthy of better than this. FEEL this worthiness, and nothing less. From our Soul, through your lips, I stand with you brother "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 974140 Australia 05/18/2010 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do they want to do that? To get themselves out of the shit? Are you talking about the negative harvest? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 974140They're doing it to show us what we're not aren't they? Only it's up to us to see it. Is that it? I have to return to this. To say "they're doing it to show us what we're not" implies, at least in my conscience, that they're doing us a service. The only ones they want to serve are themselves. So I best understand, was this implied in your question, that they're doing us a service through their activities? Well yeah kinda, for 2 reasons... 1st: That was how it was implied by the Hidden_Hand story. And the second reason was once I thought a bit more on it, being that all is One, doesn't that mean that everyone is in service to others whether they know it or not? Whether they want to or not? Either directly or indirectly. Oh dear, I realised this doesn't quite explain what I mean by what they're doing as a "service" to us. What I mean is, every time they push those buttons, they poke and prod to get us to react, they're in effect pushing us in the other direction aren't they? Even though that is not the reaction they were consciously intending? The "showing us what we're not" thing. Only the tricky part is if we get caught up feeling sad or angry by all the negativity we see. There's the trap. Those emotions are highly charged it's easy for us to get carried away in them and not see the opportunity being presented. BUT... We have a choice right? Like you pointed out in your original post, we don't have to feel guilt or anger or fear or any of those things. They've pushed so hard and for so long that many many many more people are starting to yearn for something better. Many more people are asking questions, searching for the truth. More people are starting to see behind the lies. More people are starting to look at their own actions and how they contribute to the state of things by not acting consciously. I dunno how to put it properly in words sorry. What they're doing is having like the equal and opposite reaction effect. Does that make sense? So in a sense, it does benefit us. If we choose to use their own tools against them so to speak. |
6D Wanderer (OP) User ID: 973140 United States 05/18/2010 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do they want to do that? To get themselves out of the shit? Are you talking about the negative harvest? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 974140They're doing it to show us what we're not aren't they? Only it's up to us to see it. Is that it? I have to return to this. To say "they're doing it to show us what we're not" implies, at least in my conscience, that they're doing us a service. The only ones they want to serve are themselves. So I best understand, was this implied in your question, that they're doing us a service through their activities? Well yeah kinds, for 2 reasons... 1st: That was how it was implied by the Hidden_Hand story. And the second reason was once I thought a bit more on it, being that all is One, doesn't that mean that everyone is in service to others whether they know it or not? Whether they want to or not? Either directly or indirectly. To answer your other question in your above post, it's not as much how best to use our emotions that is the reason I started this thread, it's how NOT to let your emotions be used. A healthy (or unhealthy, for that matter) conscience will dictate how best to use an emotion during the long haul of their lifetime. An example would be: On the one hand of choosing how to live one's life is hate, on the other love, for many the the way they chose to live their life is a no-brainer. It's just done. Either you're going to hate most of the time, or you're going to love most of the time. Yet, if you're one who choses to love most of the time, but hate, blame, guilt, etc. yourself for the way that our civilization is run, then there's a big problem. It's a problem I am today asking people to process, and to do so for their long term well-being. We're human. We are creatures of emotion. I'm not a New Age Love and Lighter who thinks we can just "Love this away"...and I say that not because I don't think Love is all powerful, I say that because given our hatcheted DNA and the overwhelming dualistic conditions we live in it's just unreasonable to expect any human being not to react with extreme emotions, at times and during times that are initially challenging. The point of my opening post was to the end that people don't stay put in the extremes of downward spiralling emotion. Because of the conditions we are living in and through, we are required to be in a constant state of processing all kinds of emotions. And I maintain that while these conditions prevail we cannot be falted for our initial reactions, but we can be aware enough not to reiterate them over and over like they're healthy matter. It's compassion that drives me not to falt anyone...we're not in Hippy-Skippy Land here. Now back to this-- Well yeah kinds, for 2 reasons... 1st: That was how it was implied by the Hidden_Hand story. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 974140And the second reason was once I thought a bit more on it, being that all is One, doesn't that mean that everyone is in service to others whether they know it or not? Whether they want to or not? Either directly or indirectly. 1) I don't know how much credit you give Hidden_Hand, but I give him very little. The truth he bore out was only partial. He himself admitted as much. Also, the only reason a partial truth was utterred was because he had to, I don't think it was a choice he and his clan would've made otherwise. In my opinion he was being nothing more than a soothsayer. 2) "All is One"...more faux New Age rhetoric to drive one mad. The following is admittedly an odd analogy, but I'm going with it anyway-- There's countries on this planet where raping a woman, beating a child, or enslaving a man isn't illegal. Does that make them any less a heinous actions? Do you believe that people who do these things to others are justified in their actions just because the higher power of their country doesn't deem it unjustifiable? If, and I'll make that a big IF, hyperdimensional negs are indirectly of service like so many propose then I am here as the person I am DIRECTLY saying IT'S NOT OKAY...it's not justifiable. And it sure as hell isn't "God-like." And not to forget, once again, in their limited consciences they only serve themselves...and this is an inherent problem within the ideal that All is One. At the heart of the matter, their actions are not servicing from a place of service to all. Period. The buck stops there. I think that the All is One ideal is a paradox. It's a nice thought, but I am highly suspicious of it being just a convenient thought-become-a-line for a "playwriter." Love, yes. Practice tolerance and compassion for your fellow human being and yourself, yes. I have no position of mind, body, or spirit to deter from this. It goes against my grain to think otherwise and doesn't come naturally to me. I do although take issue with those who will take humanity as if it's their own to manipulate, and I do not in any way, shape, or form support them. I will give them no credit, because I think it's not their due. And while I'm out on this limb, I'll as well let this air, too: I also take issue with and do not support those who embrace them like they're some kind of undercover saving grace for humanity. In my mind's eye that's just more nonsense the predatory parasites would just love for us all to believe. The faux New Age movement is not the same as the well-fairing New Age movement. It's a psy-op that will never hold a candle to what - as another poster said - those a bit more enlightened understand to hold as the truth of something like such a sea change movement of consciousness can be and become. While it is of ultimate importance to be mindful of your emotions, it's even more important to examine the belief systems that are thrust onto us...they all may not be exactly as they seem. In fact, I've staked my life on the them not being exactly as they seem. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 911913 Canada 05/18/2010 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm unable to one more time read comments like 'we deserve this' and 'we did this to ourselves' and 'we deserve what we're going to get' without putting forth the following. Quoting: 6D Wanderer 973140WE, humanity, did not do this and WE, humanity, do not deserve this. Those of you espousing, and moreover feeling, such comments are guilt-tripping yourselves erroneously. With regard to the disaster in the gulf (and all other "man-made problems"), whether it's an accident or a purposeful ploy, it's a bare few relative to the remainder of the population who are finitely responsible. There's a number of groups of people, over many years, who protested drilling in the gulf, and elsewhere. There's a number of groups of people who have for years and years lobbied in many ways for alternative energies, and one President (Carter) who did all that he could to install alternative energy programs in this country 30 years ago only to have them trashed by another President (Reagan). It's not as if no effort has never been made to create a better way, yes? But the disaster in the gulf is only a tiniest fraction of the larger picture, and is systemic of a much larger catastrophe that has plagued humanity unceasingly. I move forward with this to a conclusion of why this guilt-tripping I see so many enacting is to (understatedly) no good end. None, at all. The following is a part of a quote from Ani Difranco. It's not who the person that called me to cite this quote, it's the profundity of what is said-- "We barely have time to react in this world, let alone rehearse..." We barely have time to react in this world because the game rules are constantly being changed within offices where WE are not allowed; and not only are we not allowed, we are not intended to ever know how, what, and why they're scheming. These power plays have been going on for millenia, long before you or I ever existed. These power plays are advocated and superficially rewarded by inhuman entities who covertly staged their game plan without an opportunity for humanity to rehearse their parts, be conscious of their lines, and walk off the stage before they could be implicated as actors in the playwright's creation. We live edged on the slippery slope of an inhuman and inhumane subversive rabbit hole not created by WE. Since the beginning of time the clock-face (aka this reality) has been sprung to tick-tock as a means to an end that does not serve the greater good of the "entireness" of humanity...I put entireness in quotes because it bespeaks of how all too many of our spirits are so worn out from hanging on to an edge where the proverbial rug has historically, consistently, and constantly been pulled out from underneath our feet within those offices where we are not allowed to tread. We hang on to that slippery edge for our dear lives so we don't become like them. What we see happening in our (ahem) civilization today, what is pissing us off and breaking so many of our hearts, is not finitely due to the communal individual's abnegation of responsibility. Infinitesimally the responsibility "lies" with the entities who (so to speak) sprang the clock millenia ago, and with those who through time-corrupted sit in seats of power abnegating responsibility by acting as willing puppets tethered to the ends of the chains that tie and bind humanity. Like hate, unrighteous anger, and fear, guilt (guilt relevant to this post's subject matter) is a base tool of the inhuman, inhumane. By drawing this guilt into your hearts and awareness's you are "playing" into their trap. You are acting to serve their agenda...the destruction of your spirit. Given enough human spirit subdued and destructed it's then game over, and humanity loses. Perhaps it will be that some of us, as individuals/souls, will be capable of avoiding slipping into the game-plan rabbit hole, if we do experience that ultimate loss and humanity becomes but a ghost of a blip on the radar of existence. Perhaps some of us will indeed walk offstage as conscientious objectors, but if I'm one of those individuals/souls it will not be done with glee. It will be the most bitterness of sweetness to bear. You see, as a 6D Wanderer I know, beyond any shadow of doubt that can be cast over humanity, that as originally created we are a beautiful and dynamic species, capable of unbounded and honorable beingness. I know this because I have been this; I do have some bare memories of living as a human with all human-body DNA intact and fully functional. And pardon my loftiness (if you'll find me verbose), but I did not return to this rabbit-hell-hole to play tiddlywinks and stand idly by while humanity slips down the drain into a vortextual energy sewer where only the inhuman and inhumane are comfortable and sated. I returned to be of service. This post is me extending my service, today. Ultimately, I cannot stop you from blaming yourselves and feeling guilt. Humans don't come with magic switches another human can just flick, and voila!, presto chango. No matter how evolved my soul and awareness might be, another's transformation comes from within, not from without. Yet, what I can do is plant a seed, a light bulb poised for a spark of awareness to enlighten...if you Will. I will maintain, until my last breath in this toxic environment, that every moment you spend feeling guilty - 'we deserve this' and 'we did this to ourselves' 'we deserve what we get' - about something like the gulf disaster you are doing so with one foot, if not a whole leg, over the edge of the slippery slope and into the miasmic subversity most of you quite consciously want no part of throughout your minds, bodies, and spirits. Guilt and all other base emotions are the tools of those who want you to feel such baseness into being, into your moment to moment be-coming...please try and understand this. Try and understand that, ultimately, these manipulative tools are used as a means to the end of human spiritual genocide. They create an emotional Catch 22 that you really don't want to be caught within if you bear hope to survive and thrive beyond the confines of this staged arena, this realm of existence. I belong to no religion. I belong to no political party. I do not raise money above the well being of others. I am a Wanderer. An individual who has been there and done that, whether you chose to believe me or not. From my now aching heart to yours I am imploring of you, if you've not yet, to get a hold of yourselves, to reject the covert manipulation, and to... Resist the spiritual genocide of humanity. I plan on spirit-fully striding away from this "makeshift" stage when Zero Point comes to pass/transition. It is a dearest hope of mine to find you all around me. We are - even in our chopped up DNA stature, with all the shortcomings such a state of being heaps on us - worthy of better than this. FEEL this worthiness, and nothing less. what is your view on sex? sex makes me feel guilty. |
6D Wanderer (OP) User ID: 973140 United States 05/18/2010 05:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh dear, I realised this doesn't quite explain what I mean by what they're doing as a "service" to us. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 974140What I mean is, every time they push those buttons, they poke and prod to get us to react, they're in effect pushing us in the other direction aren't they? Even though that is not the reaction they were consciously intending? The "showing us what we're not" thing. Only the tricky part is if we get caught up feeling sad or angry by all the negativity we see. There's the trap. Those emotions are highly charged it's easy for us to get carried away in them and not see the opportunity being presented. BUT... We have a choice right? Like you pointed out in your original post, we don't have to feel guilt or anger or fear or any of those things. They've pushed so hard and for so long that many many many more people are starting to yearn for something better. Many more people are asking questions, searching for the truth. More people are starting to see behind the lies. More people are starting to look at their own actions and how they contribute to the state of things by not acting consciously. I dunno how to put it properly in words sorry. What they're doing is having like the equal and opposite reaction effect. Does that make sense? So in a sense, it does benefit us. If we choose to use their own tools against them so to speak. I posted my last one to you before seeing this one from you. And, lovey, it's not easy for me to put into words "properly" my position, either. We're both doing the best we can with what we have to work with. I cannot tell you you're right or wrong about what you're saying in your post, this is you meteing out what is best for you to believe. I fully honor your process, and will do the best I can while conversing with you... ...but it's very important to me that you and others practice discernment while reading my material. I do not seek anyone to blindly believe what I say. Beyond the 'be careful with your emotions' part of what I'm writing, the remainder of it may and will not be for everyone's consumption. For some there's simply no application. As you can tell from my last post I take a hardline with no wiggle-worm for compromise. It is my calling to be this way, but it doesn't have to be yours. |
6D Wanderer (OP) User ID: 973140 United States 05/18/2010 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what is your view on sex? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 911913sex makes me feel guilty. My view on sex, for enjoyment or procreation, is immaterial here and I'm not going to engage your question any further. If you have guilty feelings about sex then you best get busy figuring out why, and amending that guilt towards understanding yourself from a loving and compassionate place to arrive to a loving and compassionate place where guilt could not and will not survive. I am not you, and I cannot tell you why you feel this way. I'm also not a sex therapist. My position here and now is only to suggest to you that it's not healthy for you to feel sustained guilt. I think this thread would devolve if it was taken in the direction of discussing your interpersonal issues with sex. Devolvement of the thread is something I'd rather avoid. I'd rather see it fade away than become a trainwreck. Perhaps you'll want to start a thread about your issue. There's a number of posters who are better equipped to help you than am I right at this time...although you do have my kind regards for you finding the resolution you seek. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 974140 Australia 05/18/2010 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK first I hope you saw what I posted above your answer and that it explained a little bit more of where I was coming from. But I suspect from your answer you may not have had a chance to, or I did a poor job of explaining it. For which I apologise, I'm just not that good at putting words together. If I could communicate in pictures and emotions it would be easier, but I can't. 1) I don't know how much credit you give Hidden_Hand, but I give him very little. The truth he bore out was only partial. He himself admitted as much. Also, the only reason a partial truth was utterred was because he had to, I don't think it was a choice he and his clan would've made otherwise. In my opinion he was being nothing more than a soothsayer. Quoting: 6D Wanderer 973140I give as much credit as I would to anyone. I don't blindly believe what anyone tells me, I just take it and examine it and try to find evidence to back it up. If there is any I'll examine it further, if there isn't, to the back burner it goes. I realise now how the way I first wrote it may have come across, like I said, not good with words. Your first post just got me all excited to learn and I jumped in quick. I don't know anything, just here to learn. I used the Hidden_Hand stuff because I have very little to reference from. Was just asking for your perspective on its concepts. Sorry for not being clear about it. 2) "All is One"...more faux New Age rhetoric to drive one mad. Quoting: 6D Wanderer 973140And not to forget, once again, in their limited consciences they only serve themselves...and this is an inherent problem within the ideal that All is One. At the heart of the matter, their actions are not servicing from a place of service to all. Period. The buck stops there. I think that the All is One ideal is a paradox. It's a nice thought, but I am highly suspicious of it being just a convenient thought-become-a-line for a "playwriter." I'm no love and light new age hippy either. Maybe we just disagree that's all. For me, I don't know how All of Creation cannot be One. Both part and parcel. We each being the parts, and all of life being the parcel. For me it rings true because of what small pieces of evidence I've observed in how we mirror eachother (all the people in our lives individually) I can see parts of myself in everyone I've ever known, and have learnt something from that. And it's always come down to learning something about compassion and love, forgiveness and acceptance. And for me, there's also evidence of the darker things in nature all around us and within us as well. Everything has it's opposite, so it would only be natural that the negs would be part of the whole too. That doesn't mean I like the behaviour, but I do have to accept that it exits as part of the whole. And while I'm out on this limb, I'll as well let this air, too: I also take issue with and do not support those who embrace them like they're some kind of undercover saving grace for humanity. In my mind's eye that's just more nonsense the predatory parasites would just love for us all Quoting: 6D Wanderer 973140to believe. I hope you don't mean me, but I can see how you might have, given the not-so-well-thought-out hastily posts I've made so far. (woops, sorry. I just get excited about all this kinda stuff that's all) I really hope you don't misunderstand me, I agree wholeheartedly with what you wrote in your first post. My intention was simply to get a dialogue going. So we can all go in a bit deeper and explore some more ins and outs with one another. Learn some more about the important things in life. What you wrote is so very important, especially now. I just didn't want to see another great post get buried in 20 pages of threads on here today. |
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Canadian Cold Front User ID: 348319 Canada 05/18/2010 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... We're both doing the best we can with what we have to work with. Quoting: 6D Wanderer 973140... It is my calling to be this way, but it doesn't have to be yours. Thank you for the reminder in your original post 6D. I quote the above because it is worth repeating. Tolerance is quite pleasant actually. |