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(video) Possibly the best evidence of a bomb explosion before the first plane hit (9/11)

 
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Capt. Russ Wittenberg, U.S. Air Force – Retired commercial pilot. Flew for Pan Am and United Airlines for 35 years. Aircraft flown: Boeing 707, 720, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, and 777. 30,000+ total hours flown. Had previously flown the actual two United Airlines aircraft that were hijacked on 9/11 (Flight 93, which impacted in Pennsylvania, and Flight 175, the second plane to hit the WTC). Former U.S. Air Force fighter pilot

Video interview 9/11 Ripple Effect 8/07: "I flew the two actual aircraft which were involved in 9/11; the Fight number 175 and Flight 93, the 757 that allegedly went down in Shanksville and Flight 175 is the aircraft that's alleged to have hit the South Tower. I don't believe it's possible for, like I said, for a terrorist, a so-called terrorist to train on a [Cessna] 172, then jump in a cockpit of a 757-767 class cockpit, and vertical navigate the aircraft, lateral navigate the aircraft, and fly the airplane at speeds exceeding it's design limit speed by well over 100 knots, make high-speed high-banked turns, exceeding -- pulling probably 5, 6, 7 G's. And the aircraft would literally fall out of the sky. I couldn't do it and I'm absolutely positive they couldn't do it."
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Notice the people walking past the camera when you hear the first sound - the thump - they don't even blink. Which means they didn't feel it or notice it like the camera did. This makes me think it was added later.
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Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, 1981 - 1984. Also commanded the U.S. Army’s Electronic Research and Development Command and the U.S. Army’s Intelligence School and Center. Former head of Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence. 32-year Army career. Member, Military Intelligence Hall of Fame.


General Stubblebine: I am Major General Albert Stubblebine. I am retired Army Major-General. In my last assignment -- my last command -- I was responsible for all of the Army's strategic intelligence forces around the world. I had responsibility for the Signals Intelligence, Photo Intelligence, Counter Intelligence, Human Intelligence. They all belonged to me, in my last assignment. …

I was supposed to find out what the enemy was doing, before the enemy did it so that we could take action against the enemy. That's Intelligence, OK, before the fact. So, we always -- always -- rely not on a single piece of data, before we make a statement, but on multiple and the more pieces of data that you have that correlate, the better you know exactly what is going on. …

So I have had a lot of experience looking at photographs. I have looked at many, many different kinds of photographs, from many, many different platforms on many, many different countries, around the world.

Interviewer: OK. So on September the 11th, in 2001, what hit the Pentagon?

General Stubblebine: I don't know exactly what hit it, but I do know, from the photographs that I have analyzed and looked at very, very carefully, it was not an airplane.

Interviewer: What made you believe that?

General Stubblebine: Well, for one thing, if you look at the hole that was made in the Pentagon, the nose penetrated far enough so that there should have been wing marks on the walls of the Pentagon. I have been unable to find those wing marks. So where were they? Did this vessel -- vehicle, or whatever it was -- have wings? Apparently not, because if it had had wings, they would have made marks on the side of the Pentagon.

One person counteracted my theory, and said, "Oh, you've got it all wrong. And the reason that it's wrong is that as the airplane came across, one wing tipped down and hit the ground and broke off." I said, "Fine, that's possible, one wing could have broken off." But if I understand airplanes correctly, most airplanes have two wings. I haven't met an airplane with only one wing. So where was the mark for the second wing? OK, one broke off -- there should have been a mark for the second wing. I could not find that in any of the photographs that I've analyzed. Now I've been very careful to not say what went in there. Why? Because you don't have that evidence. …

I did -- I've never believed that it was an airplane since I've looked at the photographs. Up until the time I looked at the photographs, I accepted what was being said. After I looked at it -- NO WAY! …

We pride ourselves with the "free press." I do not believe the "free press" is free any more. It's very expensive. It's very expensive. And the press is saying what they have been told to say about this.

Now, do I have proof of that? No. But I believe that what is being -- what certainly the -- the stories that were told -- all about 9/11 were false. I mean, you take a look at the buildings falling down. They didn't fall down because airplanes hit them. They fell down because of explosives went off inside. Demolition. Look at Building 7, for God's sake. It didn't fall down to its side. It didn't fall to this direction or that direction; just like the two Towers. …

When you look at the temperatures that you can create with fuel in a gas tank or a fuel tank of an airplane, and then you investigate the amount of heat that would be required to melt -- to melt -- the superstructure of the buildings that came tumbling down, when you put all of that together, the one thing that shows; It does not match the facts. What is it they do not want the public to know? [link to www.youtube.com]
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And what makes YOU certain that the sound is in sync for that particular clip in a composite edit?

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And what makes you certain the sound isn't in sync?
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I can't believe y'all are still saying that were no planes hitting anything. Wow!! I saw with my own eyes planes hit and I guess I shouldn't believe those either. People in those planes died but that doesn't matter either to you.
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Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority. Graduate, U.S. Air Force War College. 34-year Air Force career. Licensed commercial pilot. Licensed airframe and powerplant mechanic.

* Essay: "In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft -- and in most cases the precise cause of the accident. ...

The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view. …

With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the Pentagon as alleged. Similarly, with all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site, it was most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious hole in the ground and certainly not the Boeing 757 as alleged. …

As painful and heartbreaking as was the loss of innocent lives and the lingering health problems of thousands more, a most troublesome and nightmarish probability remains that so many Americans appear to be involved in the most heinous conspiracy in our country's history." [link to www.physics911.net]
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We have the earth bleeding out in the Golf of Mexico and people are still obsessing about 9/11.


UFB!
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- WTC: No Planes - the Core Lie (1)
911-for-dummies at blogspot.com /2006/05/911-truth-no-planes-media-hoax-core.html

- Mini Hydrogen-bombs - The core cover-up of the 9/11 WTC bombs demolition
911-for-dummies at blogspot.com 2006/05/mini-hydrogen-bombs-core-cover-up-of.html (2)

- WTC 7, 9/11 first terror message, explained last (1)
911-for-dummies at blogspot.com 2006/05/wtc-7-911-first-terror-message.htm

- Eyewitnesses and TV audience vs. core lie and core cover-up (1)
911-for-dummies at blogspot.com 2006/05/911-tv-and-eyewitnesses-praticability.html

- Shanksville, Pentagon and the 9/11 "passengers" (1)
911-for-dummies at blogspot.com /2006/05/shanksville-pentagon-and-911_01.html

- 9/11 Web of Disinformation managed by the CIA (1)
911-for-dummies at blogspot.com 2006/05/911-web-of-disinformation-managed-by.html

(1) part of the script I was worldwide the first to completely explain, as far as I know.
(2) the key point was explained first by a finnish military expert. I was the first to explain how the web of disinformation is used to coverup that fact.
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I can't believe y'all are still saying that were no planes hitting anything. Wow!! I saw with my own eyes planes hit and I guess I shouldn't believe those either. People in those planes died but that doesn't matter either to you.
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I guess you DID NOT watch any of the videos, just commented..

Watch Pilots for 9/11 Truth WTC documentary..

It is/was physically impossibly for those planes to do what they say and show they did...

Argue with physics...

You think 2 aluminum planes, penetrated 1000s of tons of steel and concrete and left a cookie cutter shape of an airplane???


Look at who recorded all of those "videos, you saw withyour own eyes"...

It is posted on page one...

Kind of a coincidence that all those authors of 9/11 videos were CGI animators, 3d animators, special effects specialists, movie industry employees..

Watch the videos I posted, Pilots for 9/11 Truth and the 9/11 amateur, part 2 and look at the 9/11 authors....

Explain it to me how you know more about planes and how they would respond than pilots and airplane industry officials..

Explain how you know more than Major Stubblebine, who is in the Military Intelligence Hall of Fame, that says no planes hit the towers or pentagon...
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I can't believe y'all are still saying that were no planes hitting anything. Wow!! I saw with my own eyes planes hit and I guess I shouldn't believe those either. People in those planes died but that doesn't matter either to you.


I guess you DID NOT watch any of the videos, just commented..

Watch Pilots for 9/11 Truth WTC documentary..

It is/was physically impossibly for those planes to do what they say and show they did...

Argue with physics...

You think 2 aluminum planes, penetrated 1000s of tons of steel and concrete and left a cookie cutter shape of an airplane???


Look at who recorded all of those "videos, you saw withyour own eyes"...

It is posted on page one...

Kind of a coincidence that all those authors of 9/11 videos were CGI animators, 3d animators, special effects specialists, movie industry employees..

Watch the videos I posted, Pilots for 9/11 Truth and the 9/11 amateur, part 2 and look at the 9/11 authors....

Explain it to me how you know more about planes and how they would respond than pilots and airplane industry officials..

Explain how you know more than Major Stubblebine, who is in the Military Intelligence Hall of Fame, that says no planes hit the towers or pentagon...
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he saw it with his own two eyes i think that trumps your crackpot theory.
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I can't believe y'all are still saying that were no planes hitting anything. Wow!! I saw with my own eyes planes hit and I guess I shouldn't believe those either. People in those planes died but that doesn't matter either to you.


I guess you DID NOT watch any of the videos, just commented..

Watch Pilots for 9/11 Truth WTC documentary..

It is/was physically impossibly for those planes to do what they say and show they did...

Argue with physics...

You think 2 aluminum planes, penetrated 1000s of tons of steel and concrete and left a cookie cutter shape of an airplane???


Look at who recorded all of those "videos, you saw withyour own eyes"...

It is posted on page one...

Kind of a coincidence that all those authors of 9/11 videos were CGI animators, 3d animators, special effects specialists, movie industry employees..

Watch the videos I posted, Pilots for 9/11 Truth and the 9/11 amateur, part 2 and look at the 9/11 authors....

Explain it to me how you know more about planes and how they would respond than pilots and airplane industry officials..

Explain how you know more than Major Stubblebine, who is in the Military Intelligence Hall of Fame, that says no planes hit the towers or pentagon...


he saw it with his own two eyes i think that trumps your crackpot theory.
 Quoting: MrWreckedIt


Yep crackpot theory...

The same theory that 100s of pilots, military intelligence agree with..

So there you go, we have crackpots running the military and flying airplanes over our heads, filled with people..

All you shills have is attacking mentally...
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Only shills and retards still believe the government's version of the lie.
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Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Viet Nam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile Battery Control Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area. Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years). Private pilot.

* Statement to this website 3/23/07: "As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.

Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".

Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a "Conspiracy Theory" does not change the truth. It seems, "Something is rotten in the State."
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clappa

wish we had this in 2003
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Crackpots.....

[link to patriotsquestion911.com]

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Anyone ever seen the footage of i think it was the first plane hitting? It was a very close video. And you can see an explosion right infront of the plant, just about 10ft before the plane nose actually touches the building.
I always thought that was odd.
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bump for truth
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Only shills and retards still believe the government's version of the lie.
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What we need is a "shill whistleblower".

Do they all engage in homosexual activities on video for blackmail purposes?

Listen fag shills, we are not homophobic, we don't give a fuck what blackmail they have on you and your family. Let us know, WHY the shilling, HOW much they pay you, WHO pays you etc.
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I can't believe y'all are still saying that were no planes hitting anything. Wow!! I saw with my own eyes planes hit and I guess I shouldn't believe those either. People in those planes died but that doesn't matter either to you.


I guess you DID NOT watch any of the videos, just commented..

Watch Pilots for 9/11 Truth WTC documentary..

It is/was physically impossibly for those planes to do what they say and show they did...

Argue with physics...

You think 2 aluminum planes, penetrated 1000s of tons of steel and concrete and left a cookie cutter shape of an airplane???


Look at who recorded all of those "videos, you saw withyour own eyes"...

It is posted on page one...

Kind of a coincidence that all those authors of 9/11 videos were CGI animators, 3d animators, special effects specialists, movie industry employees..

Watch the videos I posted, Pilots for 9/11 Truth and the 9/11 amateur, part 2 and look at the 9/11 authors....

Explain it to me how you know more about planes and how they would respond than pilots and airplane industry officials..

Explain how you know more than Major Stubblebine, who is in the Military Intelligence Hall of Fame, that says no planes hit the towers or pentagon...


he saw it with his own two eyes i think that trumps your crackpot theory.
 Quoting: MrWreckedIt

I watch my son playing video games. I see a LOT of violence. Am I supposed to believe the violence is real because I saw it with my own two eyes? I think NOT.
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Anyone ever seen the footage of i think it was the first plane hitting? It was a very close video. And you can see an explosion right infront of the plant, just about 10ft before the plane nose actually touches the building.
I always thought that was odd.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 953160


This is the footage

Watch carefully

Everyone take 7 minutes out of your busy life, you owe it to the victims of 9/11 and the victims of 2 wars that have been carried out in its place..

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Anyone ever seen the footage of i think it was the first plane hitting? It was a very close video. And you can see an explosion right infront of the plant, just about 10ft before the plane nose actually touches the building.
I always thought that was odd.


This is the footage

Watch carefully

Everyone take 7 minutes out of your busy life, you owe it to the victims of 9/11 and the victims of 2 wars that have been carried out in its place..


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ooops

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big balls ,gotta give em credit, if our own really did it then I bet they consume more than 3 grams of pork a week. Pigs.
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What so they are not Jewish
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Anyone ever seen the footage of i think it was the first plane hitting? It was a very close video. And you can see an explosion right infront of the plant, just about 10ft before the plane nose actually touches the building.
I always thought that was odd.


This is the footage

Watch carefully

Everyone take 7 minutes out of your busy life, you owe it to the victims of 9/11 and the victims of 2 wars that have been carried out in its place..



ooops


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yawn
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No planes.

No dead people.

This video was utter utter utter crap!!!!
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Anyone ever seen the footage of i think it was the first plane hitting? It was a very close video. And you can see an explosion right infront of the plant, just about 10ft before the plane nose actually touches the building.
I always thought that was odd.


This is the footage

Watch carefully

Everyone take 7 minutes out of your busy life, you owe it to the victims of 9/11 and the victims of 2 wars that have been carried out in its place..



ooops





yawn
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Hmmm, it bores you...But I see you have no explanation..

Explain it please??
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No planes.

No dead people.

This video was utter utter utter crap!!!!
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No dead people?

That isnt what people are claiming...They are claiming no planes...Where those people went in those planes, who knows..

And this coming from the GULF OIL SPILL IS A FAKE, THE GOVT IS LYING TO YOU guy...

LMFAO...Show your colors..
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Only shills and retards still believe the government's version of the lie.
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Seemingly a lie some people are aware of.

What makes you think that even that isn't by design.
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Anyone ever seen the footage of i think it was the first plane hitting? It was a very close video. And you can see an explosion right infront of the plant, just about 10ft before the plane nose actually touches the building.
I always thought that was odd.


This is the footage

Watch carefully

Everyone take 7 minutes out of your busy life, you owe it to the victims of 9/11 and the victims of 2 wars that have been carried out in its place..



ooops





yawn


Hmmm, it bores you...But I see you have no explanation..

Explain it please??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 973441


How do we know that "Photoshop Streak" wasn't added after the fact?? Huh? It wasn't anywhere else? If you're going to question things then everything needs to come under question - not just one side.
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We have the earth bleeding out in the Golf of Mexico and people are still obsessing about 9/11.


UFB!
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I agree that the oil-gusher in the Gulf is a real game-changer. And this is coming from me, who has been very active in the 9/11 Truth movement since '04. Now, I even question the relative importance of 9/11 at this point. And I hate to find myself feeling this way. However, I stand by what I have believed for some time now. Without the Truth about 9/11, this country (and the world) will never see justice and accountability again. The next disaster, real or manufactured, will be worse. This goes for the Gulf situation, as well. The media, the government, the scientists will lie and spin everything. The guilty will escape justice and the people will suffer. 9/11 should have been the wake-up call. Not enough people could realize this, or cared.
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We have the earth bleeding out in the Golf of Mexico and people are still obsessing about 9/11.


UFB!

I agree that the oil-gusher in the Gulf is a real game-changer. And this is coming from me, who has been very active in the 9/11 Truth movement since '04. Now, I even question the relative importance of 9/11 at this point. And I hate to find myself feeling this way. However, I stand by what I have believed for some time now. Without the Truth about 9/11, this country (and the world) will never see justice and accountability again. The next disaster, real or manufactured, will be worse. This goes for the Gulf situation, as well. The media, the government, the scientists will lie and spin everything. The guilty will escape justice and the people will suffer. 9/11 should have been the wake-up call. Not enough people could realize this, or cared.
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Agreed 100%, 9/11 was the single craziest event that has happened during any of our lives. There seems to be more than one theory out there that has evidence in its favor, but all I know was that it was never properly investigated. Certainly the criminals responsible for this are still free. I honestly believe that all of the recent media coverage regarding the possible nuking of an American city is nothing but a veiled threat. That a city will be nuked, or another major attack will happen if tptb feel that people are getting too ornery for the truth regarding 9/11. Another attack blamed on Islamists would galvanize the fox-tards are other official story believers, pressuring those of us that want a real investigation to shut again or get lynched.





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