Got an idea- Let's make it law that if you're not working and paying taxes, you can't vote! | |
Backitup
(OP) User ID: 916869 United States 05/28/2010 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where there is no hope there is only tomorrow Quoting: SickDaveMondoI have lots of hope, I just have a different definition than you do. SDM Accually I don't believe we have a "next year" But I put this out there cause I'm slightly drunk and sometiimes think "what if" thank you for (I was going to say playing but mean no dis really) |
Backitup
(OP) User ID: 916869 United States 05/28/2010 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am drawing social security, and I still like the idea. I would agree that only active taxpayers should vote and I would trust them to allow seniors to continue receiving what they have worked for, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 985031I would vote to take care of our seniors! |
SickDaveMondo
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 976452 United States 05/28/2010 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well at this point I would rather take the vote from all lobbyists and coorporate shills that have let this country go to pieces. It is not the working poor or the people that have no power that have screwed we the people. I think that your anger is very misplaced! Were you one of the fans of "Drill Baby Drill" before this mess in the Gulf? |
Backitup
(OP) User ID: 916869 United States 05/28/2010 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well at this point I would rather take the vote from all lobbyists and coorporate shills that have let this country go to pieces. It is not the working poor or the people that have no power that have screwed we the people. I think that your anger is very misplaced! Were you one of the fans of "Drill Baby Drill" before this mess in the Gulf? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 976452I'm accually a fan of all the things big oil has been reppresing..... electric cars and everything that big oil has stopped. If TPTB had not had power, we would all have a little box in our house providing all the power we need and then some. I don't believe we can stop the things about to come our way. |
Backitup
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 984415 Puerto Rico 05/28/2010 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What kind of idiot would think of an idea like that? The boss was cheating on his wife, gets caught and the divorce gets nasty, business gets closed down.. so the employees on the street can't vote because of their boss can't keep his wanker in his pants? I've seen it. An oil company screws up and creates a huge leak, the fisherman can't fish because the WHOLE area is contaminated, so now he isn't working.. A vet comes back from the war, needs some time to get his head together, so he isn't working while he meanders the country and heals, he can't vote?? Keep you bright ideas to yourself if this is the best you have. |
Backitup
(OP) User ID: 916869 United States 05/28/2010 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What kind of idiot would think of an idea like that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 984415The boss was cheating on his wife, gets caught and the divorce gets nasty, business gets closed down.. so the employees on the street can't vote because of their boss can't keep his wanker in his pants? I've seen it. An oil company screws up and creates a huge leak, the fisherman can't fish because the WHOLE area is contaminated, so now he isn't working.. A vet comes back from the war, needs some time to get his head together, so he isn't working while he meanders the country and heals, he can't vote?? Keep you bright ideas to yourself if this is the best you have. Sorry you're missing the essence of the idea- if you can't see it I'm sorry. I guess only some of us have the intelligence to solve the problem, and you're not included in that. |
Southernbella
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TheTruther
User ID: 961072 United States 05/28/2010 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, maybe if you've been on unemployment less than 6 months you're still in- more than that, you'll just have to trust those who are still working and paying taxes. Quoting: BackitupIt seems people on the dole have forgotten where the money comes from and who is paying for EVERYTHING in the government! It's just to easy to spend other peoples money! If I remember my history correctly, there was a time that only land owners got a vote. I don't believe that would work know, but the point is, we sometimes take for granted the current "rules" and they don't really apply anymore! Time to tear out the tree and grow a new one. If you took the vote from everyone living off the ones paying the bill, and let those paying the bill call the shots, would it help? Fuck Taxes You Dill Hole! lol!!!!!!!! |
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SickDaveMondo
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User ID: 985180 Germany 05/28/2010 11:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what a silly idea. paying taxes supports your "out of mind" government. Please USA start the next Revolution, cause the "democratic" system failed hard all over the world... Dont support wars and bailouts with your tax-money! |
Backitup
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 985200 Australia 05/28/2010 11:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | does it hurt your head when you get ideas? if doing something causes you pain, you should quit doing it. |
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Earth Daughter
User ID: 982226 United States 05/28/2010 11:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why don't they just have people pass an IQ test in order to vote. "Arrows of hate have been shot at me too, but they never hit me, because somehow they belonged to another world, with which I have no connection whatsoever." - Albert Einstein |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 985198 United States 05/28/2010 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 985101 Greece 05/28/2010 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, maybe if you've been on unemployment less than 6 months you're still in- more than that, you'll just have to trust those who are still working and paying taxes. Quoting: BackitupIt seems people on the dole have forgotten where the money comes from and who is paying for EVERYTHING in the government! It's just to easy to spend other peoples money! If I remember my history correctly, there was a time that only land owners got a vote. I don't believe that would work know, but the point is, we sometimes take for granted the current "rules" and they don't really apply anymore! Time to tear out the tree and grow a new one. If you took the vote from everyone living off the ones paying the bill, and let those paying the bill call the shots, would it help? MAKE VOTING MANDATORY! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 939950 United States 05/29/2010 12:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, maybe if you've been on unemployment less than 6 months you're still in- more than that, you'll just have to trust those who are still working and paying taxes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 985101It seems people on the dole have forgotten where the money comes from and who is paying for EVERYTHING in the government! It's just to easy to spend other peoples money! If I remember my history correctly, there was a time that only land owners got a vote. I don't believe that would work know, but the point is, we sometimes take for granted the current "rules" and they don't really apply anymore! Time to tear out the tree and grow a new one. If you took the vote from everyone living off the ones paying the bill, and let those paying the bill call the shots, would it help? MAKE VOTING MANDATORY! can't cause in america you have to take an oath to vote oaths must be voluntary |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 822427 Canada 05/29/2010 12:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It doesn't matter if you work, don't work, get laid, are s.m.r.t or stupid, who gets into office will get into office with no actual assistance from you. But pretend to vote if it makes you feel like you did something important. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 939950 United States 05/29/2010 12:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should not be able to vote if you collect more in public assistance than you pay in taxes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 985198We do not let our children decide what their allowances will be. Democracy fails when the population figures out it can vote itself gifts out of the treasury ... not an exact quote but someone famous said something along those lines ... |
Backitup
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Aquarius 7
User ID: 977217 United States 05/29/2010 12:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should not be able to vote if you collect more in public assistance than you pay in taxes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 985198We do not let our children decide what their allowances will be. . . That ^^ makes sense. Also, ballots should be printed in ENGLISH only. If you don't speak and read English, you have no business voting in the USA. Also, some type of literacy test should be required in order to get registered to vote. Not necessarily an IQ test, but some proof of being knowledgeable of the candidates and issues to be voted upon. . . Cayce: The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea. . then we may know it has begun . www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce11.html . "Be kind, for everyone you know is fighting a hard battle" - Plato . "Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the Great Shelter of life." ~ Hopi Prophecy . |
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Backitup
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 914456 Panama 05/29/2010 04:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is definitely something wrong with the current system, but I don't think a litmus test based how much people do or don't pay in taxes is the answer. That cuts too many upstanding citizens in unique circumstances out of the process. Several examples have already been given on this thread. I would like to throw out one more and that's people starting up their own small business. It can take years for a new business owner to start turning a profit, and it's entrepreneurs such as this who end up creating jobs for others. We do not want to exclude industrial self-starters from the system. These are the people who made America great. Requiring everyone to punch a time card in order to be able to vote would be the final nail in the USA's coffin. It would essentially exclude the rugged individualists from the process. True, it would cutoff the leeches as well, but only by kicking your best and brightest to the curb along with them. You would end up with nothing but public school-educated drones driving the political process. There has to be a better way, and even then, now is a very dangerous time to try setting up a new litmus test that excludes certain people. Now that the US government has become big enough to be able to manipulate circumstances to force any people it targets out of the picture, this just is not a good idea. Plus, it would open up a whole new can of worms the moment a black person, woman, or Native American Indian lost the right to vote. These groups fought hard to win that right and would scream bloody murder if they were forced to go back to the days of being persons non grata. Most likely, the government would only enforce a law like this on white, male voters and give minorities a free pass. It would be totally unfair, but that's politics for you. There are lots of better ways to go about fixing this. For example, one lobbyist is capable of doing much more damage than 100,000 welfare moms with ballots. If you want to fix what's wrong with the USA, you need to stop wasting your time trying to net minnows and start reeling in the sharks. |
Aquarius 7
User ID: 977217 United States 05/29/2010 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bumping my thread for more opinios!!! Quoting: Backitup. . If you want my opinion, the current voting system was an intentional method of destroying our nation. This is what they did: 1. Lowered the voting age. That accomplished including an entire group of young people who did not have the life experience to make rational decisions. Young people tend to be idealistic, and they are yet unaware of the intentional evil that abounds within the ptb. Younger people are also more easily swayed by rhetoric. This is not a slam on younger folks! We were all there (well most of us) in our younger years. 2. Gave the vote to those who do not own land. I know all the arguments on this, as Ive heard them all. Nonetheless, it is a reality that those who have worked toward and accomplished buying their home/farm/(whatever ) are more mature, and can make wiser/more prudent decisions. 3. Started printing ballots in languages other than English. Lets face it if one is unable to read and write the language of our nation, how can they possibly understand the culture of our nation? I am firmly convinced that all of the above was an intentional destruction of the ideals of our Founding Fathers. . . . Cayce: The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea. . then we may know it has begun . www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce11.html . "Be kind, for everyone you know is fighting a hard battle" - Plato . "Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the Great Shelter of life." ~ Hopi Prophecy . |