Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
Users Online Now: 2,036 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 1,931,264
Pageviews Today: 2,853,573Threads Today: 779Posts Today: 16,217
11:15 PM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

WTF !! SPAIN IS TOAST !! FITCH DOWNGRADES SPAIN'S CREDIT RATING !!

 
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 905800
Mexico
05/28/2010 08:02 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
WTF !! SPAIN IS TOAST !! FITCH DOWNGRADES SPAIN'S CREDIT RATING !!
[link to www.ft.com]


Fitch downgrades Spain’s credit rating
By Victor Mallet in Madrid and Jennifer Hughes in London

Published: May 28 2010 19:06 | Last updated: May 28 2010 19:06

Fitch, the credit rating agency, on Friday downgraded Spain’s sovereign debt because of its sluggish economic growth outlook, immediately pushing down the euro and world stock markets amid doubts about the prospects for weaker southern European economies.

In New York, the S&P 500 dropped 1.1 per cent on the news but recovered some of its losses to reach 1,092.65 in early afternoon trading, down 0.7 per cent on its level before Fitch’s announcement and off 1 per cent on the day.

EDITOR’S CHOICE
Spain to toughen short-selling rules - May-28Dollar suffers as risk appetite returns - May-28Wall Street dips in low volume trade - May-28FTSE gives back early gains - May-28Spyker boosted by partnership talks for new car - May-28Three-day rally restores confidence - May-28With European markets already closed, the euro bore the brunt of European selling, falling almost a whole cent against the dollar in minutes before regaining about half its losses to trade at $1.232.

The reaction was made sharper by the fact the news landed just as many European traders had left for a long holiday weekend, thinning trading conditions further.

The Fitch announcement followed a similar move a month ago by Standard & Poor’s, which also downgraded Greece and Portugal. Moody’s, a third rating agency, has so far kept Spain at its highest level.

Fitch said it had downgraded Spain’s long-term foreign and local currency ratings by one notch to AA+ from triple-A, a step that is likely to increase the cost to Spain of raising new debt and rolling over previous loans on the bond markets.

“The downgrade reflects Fitch’s assessment that the process of adjustment to a lower level of private sector and external indebtedness will materially reduce the rate of growth of the Spanish economy over the medium term,“ Brian Coulton of Fitch was quoted as saying in a statement.

Spain and other eurozone economies are struggling to reconcile the need to cut budget deficits, in order to reassure investors that they are bringing their public finances under control, with the equally important aim of restoring economic growth after a long recession.

On Thursday, Spain’s Socialist government narrowly won a parliamentary vote to enact its latest austerity plan, involving €15bn of budget cuts through a 5 per cent cut in public sector pay, a freeze on pensions and reduced government investment.

The target is to cut the budget deficit from 11.2 per cent of gross domestic product in 2009 to 6 per cent in 2011 and 3 per cent in 2013.

Acknowledging the likely negative impact of austerity, Elena Salgado, Spanish finance minister, on Friday reduced the government’s economic growth forecasts for future years, although some economists still regard Spain’s official predictions as over-optimistic.

The new Spanish forecast puts growth at 2.5 per cent in 2012, down from an earlier figure of 2.9 per cent, and at 2.7 per cent in 2013, down from 3.1 per cent. The government had already cut its 2011 growth forecast from 1.8 per cent to 1.3 per cent. It expects the economy to shrink slightly this year.

Fitch’s forecasts for Spanish growth are considerably lower – it predicts only 0.5 per cent growth next year, for example.

Justifying its downgrade, Fitch said it believed the Spanish government could find it hard to implement some of the spending cuts it had announced, particularly since some decisions lie in the hands of the country’s 17 autonomous regions.

Spanish trade union federations have announced a public sector strike for June 8, and some union leaders say they want to call a nationwide general strike on that day. They are also resisting the radical reforms to the rigid Spanish labour market that employers and most economists say are necessary to ensure long term growth and improved competitiveness.

Win Thin, currency strategist at Brown Brothers Harriman, said the downgrade “should serve as a reminder that while the news stream out of Europe was generally quiet this week, the potential and risk is for more bad news to emerge from time to time and roil markets.”

Analysts criticized the timing of the Fitch release. Similar, end-of-day announcements last month on Spain and Greece from rival agency S&P also caused turmoil in the markets and drew anger from traders who said the thin conditions exacerbated market moves.

Sean Increnoma, strategist at 4Cast, a consultancy, said pointedly: “Liquidity at this stage, after most of Europe has shut down, is not going to help. Well timed!”
Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2010. You may share using our article tools. Please don't cut articles from FT.com and redistribute by email or post to the web
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 905800
Mexico
05/29/2010 12:40 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: WTF !! SPAIN IS TOAST !! FITCH DOWNGRADES SPAIN'S CREDIT RATING !!
bump
Harmonics

User ID: 966204
Sweden
05/29/2010 10:00 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: WTF !! SPAIN IS TOAST !! FITCH DOWNGRADES SPAIN'S CREDIT RATING !!
Not looking good for Spain, here a little snip from IMF that was there just last week.

[link to www.imf.org]

Spain—2010 Article IV Consultation
Concluding Statement of the Mission
Madrid, May 24, 2010

Spain’s economy needs far-reaching and comprehensive reforms. The challenges are severe: a dysfunctional labor market, the deflating property bubble, a large fiscal deficit, heavy private sector and external indebtedness, anemic productivity growth, weak competitiveness, and a banking sector with pockets of weakness. Ambitious fiscal consolidation is underway, recently reinforced and front-loaded. This needs to be complemented with growth-enhancing structural reforms, building on the progress made on product markets and the housing sector, especially overhauling the labor market. A bold pension reform, along the lines proposed by the government, should be quickly adopted. Consolidation and reform of the banking system needs to be accelerated. Such a comprehensive strategy would be helped by broad political and social support, and time is of the essence.
Pakal

User ID: 985562
Mexico
05/29/2010 10:06 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: WTF !! SPAIN IS TOAST !! FITCH DOWNGRADES SPAIN'S CREDIT RATING !!
PIGS down!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 985594
United States
05/29/2010 10:15 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: WTF !! SPAIN IS TOAST !! FITCH DOWNGRADES SPAIN'S CREDIT RATING !!
How can this be?

Just a little over a week ago someone cited Spain to me as an example of government done right.

So either this person didn't know what they or talking about or this thread is inaccurate.

Oh, which could it possibly be?

laugh
Pakal

User ID: 985562
Mexico
05/29/2010 10:25 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: WTF !! SPAIN IS TOAST !! FITCH DOWNGRADES SPAIN'S CREDIT RATING !!
How can this be?

Just a little over a week ago someone cited Spain to me as an example of government done right.

So either this person didn't know what they or talking about or this thread is inaccurate.

Oh, which could it possibly be?

laugh
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 985594

Spain has 20% unemployment rate and its national debt currently triples what EU allowed.
I agree with OP, Spain is toast!
DanG
User ID: 878191
United States
05/29/2010 10:29 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: WTF !! SPAIN IS TOAST !! FITCH DOWNGRADES SPAIN'S CREDIT RATING !!
VERY - VERY bad news for the EU ... Spain is a MUCH larger
problem than Greece.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 745240
United States
05/29/2010 11:08 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: WTF !! SPAIN IS TOAST !! FITCH DOWNGRADES SPAIN'S CREDIT RATING !!
EU is toast

not just spain

bye bye Euro
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Tostada!

5a
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 793891
United States
05/29/2010 11:13 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: WTF !! SPAIN IS TOAST !! FITCH DOWNGRADES SPAIN'S CREDIT RATING !!
EU is toast

not just spain

bye bye Euro
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


I think maybe this might be the goal behind the whole financial crisis. There are no other alternate reserve currencies in the world. The Euro threatened the dollar and gets the smack down.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1005669
Germany
06/16/2010 10:00 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: WTF !! SPAIN IS TOAST !! FITCH DOWNGRADES SPAIN'S CREDIT RATING !!
VERY - VERY bad news for the EU ... Spain is a MUCH larger
problem than Greece.
 Quoting: DanG 878191



8th biggest economy

WORLD

fuckard





GLP