amsterdam press conference on noahs ark discovery!

really people, a magic boat took all the animals when the earth flooded completely, and this is after the pissed off god made people and then destroyed them because he didn't do a good job the first time.

fickle mythical god huh?

There's mention here of an earthquake in Bithynia, not in Jerusalem. Bithynia is in what is now Turkey, just on the Asian side of the Bosphorous. Nicaea was the capital of the region. If that earthquake was powerful enough to damage the Temple in Jerusalem, it would have totally flattened Nicaea, and most likely Constantinople too!

Regarding the eclipse, an observer in Nicaea would surely have seen this one:

[link to eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov]

29AD is a bit soon, though. How does one convert Olympiad dates to the present calendar?

... of course, four years is exactly on Olympiad. Off-by-one, either by the original author's count or by some scribe along the line, wouldn't be implausible. Maybe that's the same mistake Dionysius Exiguus made which left us with Herod dying in 4BC.

I think they have it all wrong. There have been several great "floods" within the last 13,000 years, due to the collapse of the North Polar Ice Pack at the end of the last major Glaciation. If you do the research you will see that the cities of the Persian Gulf region had to be moved sevaral times when the waters rose and inundated the previous coastline. Finding an ark or some other means of conveyance makes sense infact there should be evidence of multiple arks and not just one. However, finding such artifacts does in no way negate the modern theory of evolution just as evolution in no way negates the theory of God or Gods who came down from the sky and interbred with the human populace.

Namaste

olympiads were every 4 years.


202nd Olympiad (i.e., AD 33)

Stop and think for a second.
Noah's Ark is really a logicistcal impossibility unless he was carrying the DNA of all the animals on earth.

this will answer your questions

[link to creation.com]

holy fuck , they took dinosaurs on the ark too..

you couldn't make this shit up... oh wait

and you suckers believe this?

funny

yes, there were dino's on the ark. of course they were youngsters and hadnt achieved great stature. dino's also lived among man. the bible even mentions them.

If the different kinds of dinosaurs survived the Flood, then they must have come off the Ark and lived in the post-Flood world.

In the Bible, in Job 40:15-24, God describes to Job (who lived after the Flood) a great beast with which Job was familiar. This great animal, called ‘behemoth,’ is described as ‘the chief of the ways of God,’ perhaps the biggest land animal God had created. Impressively, he moved his tail like a cedar tree! Although some Bible commentaries say this may have been an elephant or hippopotamus, the description actually fits that of a dinosaur like Brachiosaurus. Elephants and hippos certainly do not have tails like cedar trees!

Actually, very few animals are singled out in the Bible for such a detailed description. Contrary to what many may think, what we know now as dinosaurs get more mention in the Scriptures than most animals! So dinosaurs—all the different kinds—must have lived alongside of people after the Flood.

Are Dinosaurs Mentioned in Ancient Literature?
Interestingly, the word ‘dragon’ is used a number of times in the Old Testament. In most instances, the word dinosaur could substitute for dragon and it would fit very nicely. Creation scientists believe that dinosaurs were called dragons before the word dinosaur was invented in the 1800s. We would not expect to find the word dinosaur in Bibles like the Authorized Version (1611), as it was translated well before the word dinosaur was ever used.

Also, there are many very old history books in various libraries around the world that have detailed records of dragons and their encounters with people. Surprisingly (or not so surprisingly for creationists), many of these descriptions of dragons fit with how modern scientists would describe dinosaurs, even Tyrannosaurus. Unfortunately, this evidence is not considered valid by evolutionists. Why? Only because their belief is that man and dinosaurs did not live at the same time!

However, the more we research the historical literature, the more we realize there is overwhelming evidence that dragons were real beasts, much like our modern reconstructions of dinosaurs, and that their existence has been recorded by many different people, even just hundreds of years ago.

What Happened to Dinosaurs?
Evolutionists use their imagination in a big way in answering this question. Because of their belief that dinosaurs ‘ruled’ the world for millions of years, and then disappeared millions of years before man allegedly evolved, they have had to come up with all sorts of guesses to explain this ‘mysterious’ disappearance.

When reading evolutionist literature, you will be astonished at the range of ideas concerning their supposed extinction. The following is just a small list of theories:

Dinosaurs starved to death; they died from overeating; they were poisoned; they became blind from cataracts and could not reproduce; mammals ate their eggs. Other causes include-volcanic dust, poisonous gases, comets, sunspots, meteorites, mass suicide, constipation, parasites, shrinking brain (and greater stupidity), slipped discs, changes in the composition of air, etc.

It is obvious that evolutionists don’t know what happened and are grasping at straws. In a recent evolutionary book on dinosaurs, ‘A New Look At the Dinosaurs,’ the author made the statement:

‘Now comes the important question. What caused all these extinctions at one particular point in time, approximately 65 million years ago? Dozens of reasons have been suggested, some serious and sensible, others quite crazy, and yet others merely as a joke. Every year people come up with new theories on this thorny problem. The trouble is that if we are to find just one reason to account for them all, it would have to explain the death, all at the same time, of animals living on land and of animals living in the sea; but, in both cases, of only some of those animals, for many of the land dwellers and many of the sea-dwellers went on living quite happily into the following period. Alas, no such one explanation exists’ (Alan Charig, p. 150).

But, one such explanation does exist. If you remove the evolutionary framework, get rid of the millions of years, and then take the Bible seriously, you will find an explanation that fits the facts and makes perfect sense:

At the time of the Flood, many of the sea creatures died, but some survived. In addition, all of the land creatures outside the Ark died, but the representatives of all the kinds that survived on the Ark lived in the new world after the Flood. Those land animals (including dinosaurs) found the new world to be much different than the one before the Flood. Due to (1) competition for food that was no longer in abundance, (2) other catastrophes, (3) man killing for food (and perhaps for fun), and (4) the destruction of habitats, etc., many species of animals eventually died out. The group of animals we now call dinosaurs just happened to die out too. In fact, quite a number of animals become extinct each year. Extinction seems to be the rule in Earth history (not the formation of new types of animals as you would expect from evolution).

[link to creation.com]

Last Edited by Neesie on 05/29/2010 05:48 PM

it would mean that all those characters in the bible really exist. duh....lol....

and we were told exactly how people like you would act during these times thousands of years ago. You'll be one of the first to be crying like a little bitch.

i dont think the dinosaurs went into the ark. most of the dino bones are positioned in a way (neck arched back) that signifies they died of asphyxiation by drowning.

i dont need physical proof of an ark to prove my faith

I have been waiting for this disclosure as a friend told me a tale of military going in and taking some things out of it...I have to wonder...as I have believed this is where the Noah's ark would be found

What is there were more than 1 ark?

I meant what if..

after learning about the weather global warming scientist and their dishonest ways i won't believe anything any scientist says until the science is checked nine ways from hell then checked again and again.

a pampas arrogant lying ass is all i see when i look at a scientist anymore.

perhaps BP can use the ark to plug the oil leak?





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yes but we pretty much believe that certain dinos did survive the flood. because they were still here after the flood. this is why god spoke of the dinos to JOB. also we are finding dino fossils with flesh and blood still hanging on them and having a cadaverous odor, meaning some of them did not die out all that long ago

[link to creation.com]

God only mentions one. had there been more he would have said so. but as with any original there will always be a counterfeit.

NOT TRUE.

We may not know the exact day or hour, but we can know when it is close as He told us so in the Bible - ""be watchful and pray" and...

"And he shall send his angels with a trumpet, and a great voice: and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the farthest parts of the heavens to the utmost bounds of them. 32 And from the fig tree learn a parable: When the branch thereof is now tender, and the leaves come forth, you know that summer is nigh. 33 So you also, when you shall see all these things, know ye that it is nigh, even at the doors." Matthew 24:31-33/DRV

Why are you guys even trying to argue with the OP ? It would do about as much good as argueing with a brick wall. He/She appears to be a hardcore fundamentalist so whats the point he wont use reason nor will he listen to it...

reasoning? who's reasoning? gods or humans? Humans are deceptive and liars. God does not lie.

Case and point people. lol

Well, my bad - I hadn't read the whole thread, but thought you said you were a Christian. I guess you're just gay then.

The immodesty that exists in society today is horrible and probably much worse than what brought on the Flood. God can't wait to take a flame thrower to this place, and the only thing staying His hand for a few moments more is His mother, who promised the Warning first before the Chastisement begins.

GLP is certainly a cesspool of blasphemy - a overwhelming majority of those who hate Christ here. But, that's how you know you're on the right track as a Christian - when people hate you for upholding His laws, which apply to EVERYONE, even if they don't think so.

The people with the slutty avatars and probably just that - sluts.

Ouch AC!! you will catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. LOL

Funny/sad part is this guy/gal prolly actually believes what he/she wrote. Maybe you might consider moving to the Middle East I am sure you would love the women in full body burqas, would that be modest enough for you ? lol.

Not trying to catch any flies. Just calling a spade a spade. No point in tolerating immoral crap.

This is the worst press conference I've ever seen.

They did it on Purpose ? They had too ... worst was impossible. lol :)

Yes Capt Bill.. Exactly. Good job of exposing some atheists in action trying to subvert the faith of many. People, just go to this link to read all about the REAL NOAH's ARK!!!

[link to www.wyattmuseum.com]