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Neesie
(OP) User ID: 254206 United States 05/29/2010 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, They ARE serious, They really believe they have found the ark, they have scientists and members of parliament from the turkish government making statements. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 959446No this is not a scientific discovery this is shilling by them for their religion. All of these so called scientists just all happen to be Christians don't you find that a little strange? no not really, you can be a christian and a scientist. as a matter of fact i think the christian would be less likely to be a hoaxer than a secular scientists. I mean look at the ones putting out all of those hoaxes about evolution. Piltdown man, Lucy etc. .A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell. C. S. Lewis |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 896179 United Kingdom 05/29/2010 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I got a link on this. carbon has six electrons, six neutrons and six protons. hence six, six, six. Quoting: THE PRODIGAL SON[link to www.carbon666.com] The book of Revelation doesn't say six six six. It says six hundred and sixty-six. There's a difference. People didn't even use Indo-Arabic numerals back then: it would have been DCLXVI, not VI VI VI. Carbon has six electrons, six neutrons and six protons: that's _eighteen_. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 938842 United States 05/29/2010 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I got a link on this. carbon has six electrons, six neutrons and six protons. hence six, six, six. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 896179[link to www.carbon666.com] The book of Revelation doesn't say six six six. It says six hundred and sixty-six. There's a difference. People didn't even use Indo-Arabic numerals back then: it would have been DCLXVI, not VI VI VI. Carbon has six electrons, six neutrons and six protons: that's _eighteen_. Carbon is the beast, you dont want to stay trapped like this forever, endless cycle of death and rebirth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 687593 Sweden 05/29/2010 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Noah's Ark Ministries International Limited: [link to www.noahsarksearch.net] The seven spaces found so far: [link to www.noahsarksearch.net] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 923672 United States 05/29/2010 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Biblical stories are real. Watch these, catch up a bit. [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 687593 Sweden 05/29/2010 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem with carbon dating is that the method itself relies on that radioactive isotopes are stabilized after billions of years since the big bang. If the universe and the earth is much younger as the Bible suggests, the carbon dating method can't be used, or it has to be recalibrated. |
Lisadelivers
User ID: 983819 United States 05/29/2010 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whoa...wait just a second. Even IF they do find THE Noah's ark does't mean that everything in the bible is literal. There are so many things that are symbolic .. This would in NO WAY cancel out evolution. Quoting: THE PRODIGAL SONyou and i MUST be reading different bibles. certainly not 100% of everything is literal. but enough of it is that it should be read literally **UNLESS** the context indicates a symbolic interpretation. if it doesnt ... interpret literally! Historically, yes, many things are literal. Some of the numbers are literal. Most of the rest is symbolic...even the literal stuff is also symbolic. Do you not understand that things can have many meanings? Such as the parables of Jesus? As i said, it is a Root & Branch system...the root of our physical world is in the spiritual world. We see the branches. It is only when you begin to understand the spiritual that you will see/read things differently. There are many "layers" of understanding in the bible. Have you not noticed that you can read a verse one day and understand it one way, then a year later it has a totally different meaning to you? Your understanding changes as you grow spiritually. This continues until it is no longer literal at all, although some of the things there are seen in the physical. the Serpent was Lucifer/lilith, And their Child was CAIN. this is a loose interpretation but close.. There are Sons of Cain and Sons of Seth. Different bloodlines on earth. Symbology of Serpent was different DNA as DNA looks like a serpent. twisting around a tree or pole True, that's one interpretation of a part of that story. There's more and it goes deeper. "Lucifer" literally means light-bearer. "Satan" means the adversary, "Demon" simply comes from a word (daemon) meaning spirit, "Sin" means to miss the mark [of holiness] (in need of correction). When you put everything together with their correct meanings (not twisted by the church), you will see things differently. The real "satan" is our own egoic minds being distracted by this world. Lisa I AM that I AM (I shall be what I shall be) "Be still and know..." (Psalm 46:10) |
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CaptBill
User ID: 914302 United States 05/29/2010 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These Ark discoveries are all MISDIRECTION. The Ark was found in the 70's by Ron Wyatt You are being tricked into looking in the wrong direction Don't believe any other claims than Ron's discovery. The real Ark is an AMAZING vessel. Even from a "sailors' perspective this is a truly magnificent vessel. The wood used in the construction has NO GROWTH RINGS, which is evidence it comes from pre-flood times (no rain before the flood, earth was watered by mist rising from the ground, no growth rings on trees) Here is the authentic Ark [youtube] [link to www.youtube.com] Last Edited by CaptBill on 05/29/2010 12:09 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 687593 Sweden 05/29/2010 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Coming of the Son means we are ready for the next stage of evolution/creation. Lets conquer the Beast of the Carbon Element. At least attempt a 1,000 year life span, if we can end crime and we are deserving. Quoting: THE PRODIGAL SONYawn, don't you have anything interesting to say? No science supports the theory of evolution. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 985686 United Kingdom 05/29/2010 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The bigger question remains. Even if you found a big structure, a big ship, on Mt. Ararat, how would you ever PROVE its was Noah's and not someone elses? How would you every prove it was The Ark? Quoting: THE PRODIGAL SONexact measurements are in the Bible. qoutes We find in verses 14-16 that God told Noah how to build the ark: "So make yourself an ark of cypress wood; make rooms in it and coat it with pitch inside and out. This is how you are to build it: The ark is to be 450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 45 feet high. Make a roof for it and finish the ark to within 18 inches of the top. Put a door in the side of the ark and make lower, middle and upper decks." Based on measurements given in the Genesis account, most experts agree that the ark had approximately 1,500,000 cubic feet of free space. So we can gasp the size, the ark would be equivalent in volume to 522 standard American railroad stock cars, each of which can hold 240 sheep.1 The number of animals which could have been comfortably carried aboard the Ark for the duration of the voyage is in dispute for various reasons with the number fluctuating between 16,000 and 25,000. Keep in mind that not all the creatures of the earth had to be on board the ark, only air breathing, land-dwelling animals. I am reliably informed that 1,500,000 cubic feet would equal the capacity of 570 modern railroad cattle cars. Most animals are not very large, so if we surmise that the average size of all animals is the size of a sheep and one railroad stock car can carry about 240 sheep, then we could fit 40,000 animals in as few as 167 railway cars. As the Ark's total capacity was 570 cars, then 40,000 animals would require less than 30% of the Ark's space. In other words all the animals could fit on just one of the Ark's three decks which would leave the other 70% of the ark's space free for animal supplies, Noah's family, food, and any personal belongings which may have needed to be carried. It was God alone who determined the size of the Noah's Ark So did all of these animals come from the same country or did Noah have to travel the world to collect them? |
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Celtic (woad-man)
User ID: 961113 United Kingdom 05/29/2010 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am reserving judgement and waiting it out. If it is Real we will know soon enough. But this time even the scientists would be fooled? Quoting: NeesieHow will we know, Neesie? Just curious It is the Thunderbolt that steers the Universe - Heraclitus |
PHILLY
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Lisadelivers
User ID: 983819 United States 05/29/2010 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I got a link on this. carbon has six electrons, six neutrons and six protons. hence six, six, six. Quoting: THE PRODIGAL SON[link to www.carbon666.com] The book of Revelation doesn't say six six six. It says six hundred and sixty-six. There's a difference. People didn't even use Indo-Arabic numerals back then: it would have been DCLXVI, not VI VI VI. Carbon has six electrons, six neutrons and six protons: that's _eighteen_. Carbon is the beast, you dont want to stay trapped like this forever, endless cycle of death and rebirth. This world/worldly way is definately that one of which you speak. Likely having something to do with government & banking/commerce. Don't think it's just carbon or else we'd all be marked already. This mark has more to do with being claimed by this system of exchange....if you're just taking it literally. And the harlot would be religion which rides on his back. They've always been in cahoots. Six is a number which falls short of 7 (a number of completeness). Six hundred, sixty-six is the number of his name, it is [a] man's number, let the one with understanding figure it out...is what the bible says (Rev.13:17-18). Lisa I AM that I AM (I shall be what I shall be) "Be still and know..." (Psalm 46:10) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 945763 United States 05/29/2010 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Setting the stage for bluebeam. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 983969You got that Right!!! Wood that hasn't totally disintigrataed in 6000 years? Yeah, right. hahahahaha And yet there are millions of people that are SOOO Retarded that they will believe anything. And we wonder why the world is so f'd up. |
Neesie
(OP) User ID: 254206 United States 05/29/2010 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am reserving judgement and waiting it out. If it is Real we will know soon enough. But this time even the scientists would be fooled? Quoting: Celtic (woad-man)How will we know, Neesie? Just curious creation ministries is keeping up to date on the ark discovery. they are also reserving judgements until further research has been completed. they are supposed to go there in early june and thoroughly look into the proof. They are completely credible in my opinion and are being careful to make sure it is really Noahs ark before they commit themselves. I will be visiting their site continually until they post their conclusions. www.creation.com Last Edited by Neesie on 05/29/2010 12:37 PM .A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell. C. S. Lewis |
Lisadelivers
User ID: 983819 United States 05/29/2010 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Coming of the Son means we are ready for the next stage of evolution/creation. Lets conquer the Beast of the Carbon Element. At least attempt a 1,000 year life span, if we can end crime and we are deserving. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 687593Yawn, don't you have anything interesting to say? No science supports the theory of evolution. How about the LACK of a "missing link" of humanity? We go from caveman to pyramid builders overnight? That would take a huge zap of rays, doncha think (CMEs)? Instantaneous evolution...unless you belive ET's (otherwise known as Sons of God, or fallen angels) came and interbred/messed with DNA or just taught them . Or maybe is was a mix of both? It's up to you, it's your beliefs. Science just tells you how, the belief systems tells you who. Lisa I AM that I AM (I shall be what I shall be) "Be still and know..." (Psalm 46:10) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 938842 United States 05/29/2010 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I got a link on this. carbon has six electrons, six neutrons and six protons. hence six, six, six. Quoting: Lisadelivers[link to www.carbon666.com] The book of Revelation doesn't say six six six. It says six hundred and sixty-six. There's a difference. People didn't even use Indo-Arabic numerals back then: it would have been DCLXVI, not VI VI VI. Carbon has six electrons, six neutrons and six protons: that's _eighteen_. Carbon is the beast, you dont want to stay trapped like this forever, endless cycle of death and rebirth. This world/worldly way is definately that one of which you speak. Likely having something to do with government & banking/commerce. Don't think it's just carbon or else we'd all be marked already. This mark has more to do with being claimed by this system of exchange....if you're just taking it literally. And the harlot would be religion which rides on his back. They've always been in cahoots. Six is a number which falls short of 7 (a number of completeness). Six hundred, sixty-six is the number of his name, it is [a] man's number, let the one with understanding figure it out...is what the bible says (Rev.13:17-18). LISA, are you holding your breath for antichrist then? 666 is also the number of the Sun... What is the average time of sunrise? , what is the average time for noon six hours later, what is the average time of sundown six hours later? Think about this. But you're right, There will be a Antichrist as you are a Christian and it is prophecy, Just by natural cycles, there always is such a leader. But we all work together to the New Earth you so desire. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 176444 United States 05/29/2010 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: e-watchman awesome! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 852536 United States 05/29/2010 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Which is why, even if they had actually found it, they would NEVER let us know the "truth". Kind of like the reason to never let us know that we're NOT alone here on the big blue marble...It would utterly destroy the control mechanisms that they've spent thousands of years, and generation after generation of refining and putting in to place... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 977010Or maybe they'll plant the seed/ introduce the notion that it's time to ready ourselves to board the next 'ark'. The 'great plan' has provisions for everyone, I'm sure, 'Christians' not the least. Towards that end, expect that anything and everything that you may hold to be dear Truth will be hauled out and ultimately used against you... such things to include 'Jesus,' the 'rapture' of the righteous faithful, and it looks like possibly even the 'ark of Noah.' There used to be an old saying floating around, that goes... If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Not that 'they' are interested in 'joining,' mind you, but rather 'assimilating' you into the plan... by whatever means possible. Even the 'truth,' if necessary... just don't expect the whole truth. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 938842 United States 05/29/2010 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Coming of the Son means we are ready for the next stage of evolution/creation. Lets conquer the Beast of the Carbon Element. At least attempt a 1,000 year life span, if we can end crime and we are deserving. Quoting: LisadeliversYawn, don't you have anything interesting to say? No science supports the theory of evolution. How about the LACK of a "missing link" of humanity? We go from caveman to pyramid builders overnight? That would take a huge zap of rays, doncha think (CMEs)? Instantaneous evolution...unless you belive ET's (otherwise known as Sons of God, or fallen angels) came and interbred/messed with DNA or just taught them . Or maybe is was a mix of both? It's up to you, it's your beliefs. Science just tells you how, the belief systems tells you who. Lisa, youre eyes are too quick and missing things, things, Yes, my Daddy Yaweh Elohim, tinkered with the apemen DNA, we are his creation. And there was interbreeding too. Best truth is, we are the Aliens, Pleaides, Venus, Maldek, Sirius, take your pick, But all cave drawings and cultures speak of Gods coming down from Heaven, /Outer Space |
Elephant Worker
User ID: 862859 Australia 05/29/2010 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this thread is seriously retarded. I like how all the religious people keep looking for signs that god is here to save them. GET A GRIP! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 981670+10,000 For people who are so involved with their "faith", the sure seem to need a lot of proof. I've got some proof for you, it's called common sense - want some more, it's called science. Believe or don't, who cares, just stop telling us fairy tales and then starting wars over them. Freaks. Has anyone else noticed this elephant in the lounge room ? Another block of writing from Elephant full of supposition and condescension whilst saying pretty much nothing. - EggNigma 2/2/2011 |