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Elephant Worker
User ID: 862859 Australia 05/29/2010 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No Dude, it will be proof that that The Sumerian Version is REAL! and the bible just a copy. .... geez that should be so obvious fgs Quoting: Anonymous Coward 985717No Dude, there is no way to prove the bible is a copy. That is just wishful thinking on your atheist mind. Interesting.... Back in the 1980s, I went to pick up my books for year 8 and of them was Dickens's A Christmas Carol. On the way home I flicked through the first few pages and exclaimed "Wow, it's exactly the sam eas the last time I read it". My mother scoffed and said "Well duh, it's the same book, why would they change it?" Problem was, the only book I had read different editions of ebfore that point was the Bible. up unti lthat moment, I thought it very strange to keep the same words in the book as the rpevious version. OK, you win, the bible isn't even a copy. At best it's 5000 years of Chinese whispers. Has anyone else noticed this elephant in the lounge room ? Another block of writing from Elephant full of supposition and condescension whilst saying pretty much nothing. - EggNigma 2/2/2011 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 985371 Germany 05/29/2010 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey Eagle 1, Quoting: CaptBillNot only is this a ship, "She" is an extraordinary vessel far surpassing the utility ships of today. Notice the egg shape she has.This produces the strongest possible hull. Remember the Ark withstood the raging storm during a massive upheaval of the earth. She saw the worst sea conditions THAT EVER WERE. And made a safe passage Even apparently the unicorns and tooth faeries caught a ride. Ps.They also found the "droughe" anchors along a path of 13 miles (?) These Noah would have used as drag devices to point the ship into the oncoming seas during the storm (or anytime). Proves Noah was serious sailor, not some guy bopping along in a goofy/squarish/houseboat with his giraffe popping out of the top, as led to believe. If you strictly take the form of the Bible, it had the same proportions as modern supertankers. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 985371 Germany 05/29/2010 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the animals taken on board the ark were the prototypes to which many species have sprang from today. a horse type a canine a feline and so forth. Quoting: Neesiethey would have been taken in as babies or juveniles so they would require less food and would not be violent or territorial agaqinst each other. there would be more that two of certain animals like cows or fodder animals like turtles that could be used to feed the other animals. insects would have survived by floating on dead animals and debris and feeding off of them. the ark is much larger than you would imagine. check out the size [link to creation.com] Some were collected in sevens, others in twos.. |
doomass User ID: 545433 United States 05/29/2010 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That must be the tenth ark they have found... Quoting: Sirrurgmaybe...whose to say besides "religious stories" that there was not more than one type of ark from the same time period. the stories always make it sound like only noah could have built a single ark. i wouldn't believe for a second that all the people watchin him build it were all just laughin at him and his family. others may have built similar structures smaller or bigger. it's no more of a crazy theory than the rest of the way out there religious stories. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 938842 United States 05/29/2010 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | REALLY SIMPLE: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 985371Moses, the writer of Genesis, was a part of the egyptian ruling class when he started writing. He had full access to everything the ancient world knew. The sumarian rendition was undoubtly just one of several at his disposal. He sifted through the bullshit and thats why his rendition is the only one that is remotely "scientific". Just like the cubit size used in Genesis was most likely an egyptian royal cubit, or 20.64 inches. nooooo, you're spilling the truth about Egypt ! Now everyone will be whipping out their wallets and looking at the back of their dollar bill. Thanks alot ! LOL In the black and white lines of thinking people have been drilled into, they don't often realise how everythings connected.. I often find it hilarious to find parties battling "their" schools of thought out when 99% of the time both are right in their own way, they just are blind to see it. That's why I always liked Hegels' words "the whole is the truth".. :) Absolutely correct ! LOL. we have a commmon origin, We might just be forced to pull it together and become one world. Horrors ! LOL |
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Elephant Worker
User ID: 862859 Australia 05/29/2010 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the animals taken on board the ark were the prototypes to which many species have sprang from today. a horse type a canine a feline and so forth. Quoting: Neesiethey would have been taken in as babies or juveniles so they would require less food and would not be violent or territorial agaqinst each other. there would be more that two of certain animals like cows or fodder animals like turtles that could be used to feed the other animals. insects would have survived by floating on dead animals and debris and feeding off of them. the ark is much larger than you would imagine. check out the size [link to creation.com] Whoops - you're talking evolution, there... "Not on my watch" - Ned Flanders Has anyone else noticed this elephant in the lounge room ? Another block of writing from Elephant full of supposition and condescension whilst saying pretty much nothing. - EggNigma 2/2/2011 |
SixEyedcheeseball
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 938842 United States 05/29/2010 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I still don't know why so many ignorant people don't realize what the ark actually means. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 985371It meant that humans way back when were so evil they destroyed the planet earth but a few humans survived thruogh some life saving ark system. Could have even been a space ship. Humans we've discovered have destroyed the earth a couple of times. They build up technology enough and then misuse it and destroy themselves. Its a happened at least twice now. Twice? Lol.. Anonymous in Germany, Guten Tag ! You would know? I heard three, four times? lol... Gosh, if people only knew, how much civilization is actually beneath us, i just want the long lost art of Levitation technology back again ! |
Neesie
(OP) User ID: 254206 United States 05/29/2010 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | guys, help. I want to live in the same imaginary world that you guys do, but I just can't seem to believe.. What do I do? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 981670It sounds really fun to talk about these imaginary things like they were real, I hate missing out on this fun. you go on and have your fun now. we others will have our fun later, living with our wonderful creator in paradise. .A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell. C. S. Lewis |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 938842 United States 05/29/2010 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That must be the tenth ark they have found... Quoting: doomass 545433maybe...whose to say besides "religious stories" that there was not more than one type of ark from the same time period. the stories always make it sound like only noah could have built a single ark. i wouldn't believe for a second that all the people watchin him build it were all just laughin at him and his family. others may have built similar structures smaller or bigger. it's no more of a crazy theory than the rest of the way out there religious stories. Its possible. I found the Japanese stories of their ancient astronaut Gods and ancient human survival stories very interesting, Its worth checking out. |
Lisadelivers
User ID: 983819 United States 05/29/2010 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, I teach it to my students. The whole truth and center of the heart and fulfillment lies in the Middle sphere, Tipareth. They just got done learning about Daath above that. Quoting: THE PRODIGAL SONAwesome! What line are you teacing from? I just teach what my Mentors taught me. It carries on from teacher to student. Im kind of on a break now. for deeply personal reasons, But I do alot of charts involving the Celestial maps, and of course the Major and Minor Tarot Arcana is all involved as guidelines. Its all about Evolution of the Soul and to assist the ones that will reach Immortality to assist in the setting up of the Kingdom on Earth. What what i mean is, what lineage are your Mentors from...What Rav did they learn from? What Rav to you learn from? Not that it matters...just curious and hoping you are getting a good instruction rather than the Hollywood spin-off style. Well, it's good to take a break every once in awhile. Must have the renewed Desire to continue the Soul's growth. "Isreal" needs to be more than the other "nations", eh? Lisa I AM that I AM (I shall be what I shall be) "Be still and know..." (Psalm 46:10) |
Neesie
(OP) User ID: 254206 United States 05/29/2010 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the animals taken on board the ark were the prototypes to which many species have sprang from today. a horse type a canine a feline and so forth. Quoting: Elephant Workerthey would have been taken in as babies or juveniles so they would require less food and would not be violent or territorial agaqinst each other. there would be more that two of certain animals like cows or fodder animals like turtles that could be used to feed the other animals. insects would have survived by floating on dead animals and debris and feeding off of them. the ark is much larger than you would imagine. check out the size [link to creation.com] Whoops - you're talking evolution, there... "Not on my watch" - Ned Flanders not evolution, natural selection and animal husbandry. .A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell. C. S. Lewis |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 938842 United States 05/29/2010 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, I teach it to my students. The whole truth and center of the heart and fulfillment lies in the Middle sphere, Tipareth. They just got done learning about Daath above that. Quoting: LisadeliversAwesome! What line are you teacing from? I just teach what my Mentors taught me. It carries on from teacher to student. Im kind of on a break now. for deeply personal reasons, But I do alot of charts involving the Celestial maps, and of course the Major and Minor Tarot Arcana is all involved as guidelines. Its all about Evolution of the Soul and to assist the ones that will reach Immortality to assist in the setting up of the Kingdom on Earth. What what i mean is, what lineage are your Mentors from...What Rav did they learn from? What Rav to you learn from? Not that it matters...just curious and hoping you are getting a good instruction rather than the Hollywood spin-off style. Well, it's good to take a break every once in awhile. Must have the renewed Desire to continue the Soul's growth. "Isreal" needs to be more than the other "nations", eh? Our signs are everything, The Entwined Snake Caduceus, the Revelation Cube, Metatron, the Fibonacci Pi Spiral, The Cross, The Serpent cross, the Interlocking Star of David, The Capstone and the Pyramid. I teach the meaning behind all those symbols. (And the Tree of Knowlege) The mathematics and science and fulfillment of the meanings of these symbols. I am of the Light. I have made a A** of myself else where on this board. Being a smart aleck. Maybe more Equilibrium of my darkside and my light. |
CaptBill
User ID: 914302 United States 05/29/2010 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the point is that building the hallway meant installing a double keelson which is a MAJOR structural enhancement. Notice the hall exit at the stern [link to www.wyattmuseum.com] Question: Why would you find more than one SHIP up IN THE MOUNTAINS? Last Edited by CaptBill on 05/29/2010 02:15 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 938842 United States 05/29/2010 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the Sun, i meant SON will return too. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 764206Your avatar gives me the creeps. Very inappropriate for a Christian. It looks like a homo masturbating. Well, true, true, BUT. let me make this point, I never said I was a Christian and Are we not all bombarded by Half naked women and naked women hundreds of times a day. Why are you picking on the male figure. How do you stand seeing half nude women hundreds of times a day on every magazine, newspaper and tv, how do you stand it, do you ever complain or speak up about it, or do you turn a blind eye, Christian. Im not currently a Christian, but I taught it for years. the reason the Flood came was not as much about SIN, but the SIN of INDIFFERENCE, people NOT CARING, turning a blind eye to what was around them, the verse said, ...and they "TOOK NO NOTE before the flood swept them away," they were so busy "eating and drinking, being given in marriage" simply carrying on. It will happen again, it will. Credit for you to speak up though. Most Christians wouldnt be on this site, Too much cussing and vulgarity for them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 954297 United Kingdom 05/29/2010 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, They ARE serious, They really believe they have found the ark, they have scientists and members of parliament from the turkish government making statements. Quoting: NeesieI hope its still intact and can fly us out of here,not much time left for all living life on earth bring it on noah. |
Neesie
(OP) User ID: 254206 United States 05/29/2010 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Notice the "double keelson". A keelson is the backbone of a ship. It is the strengthener running down the center. Notice that the Ark has a "hallway" where a normal keelson goes normally. This "hallway" is "digestive system" for the boat. Remember it is also a barn with stalls on each side so the hallway serves as a way to shovel the crap out the stern (rear) of the ship. Quoting: CaptBillSo the point is that building the hallway meant installing a double keelson which is a MAJOR structural enhancement. Notice the hall exit at the stern [link to www.wyattmuseum.com] Question: Why would you find more than one SHIP up IN THE MOUNTAINS? if they are found in the same mountain range then it could be one large boat that broke in half by glacial movements. .A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell. C. S. Lewis |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 985371 Germany 05/29/2010 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Twice? Lol.. Quoting: THE PRODIGAL SON-- Anonymous in Germany, Guten Tag ! You would know? I heard three, four times? lol... Gosh, if people only knew, how much civilization is actually beneath us, i just want the long lost art of Levitation technology back again ! Greetcha too :) A german who grew up in canada and decided to see what europe has to offer and got stuck, to be more precise :) just for reference for others here, assuming Moses was talking about egyptian royal cubits the ark was: 516 feet long 86 feet wide 51 feet and 7 inches high --- Now, as far as levitation tech goes, there's two "versions". One branch of levitation science is based on the compression of sound waves, the other, far, far more powerful variant has to do with using water (and some bonus ingredients) to tap into the hyperfrequent standing longitudinal waves emmitted by black holes, or as they are more commonly known the "black suns". Egyptians knew how to to the first type, if I remember correctly french (or was it japanese) scientists figured it out, although not as practible as back then yet.. the latter of the two is far more interesting. As far as the need technology goes, we could have replicated it a few hundred years ago.. but we didn't figure it out until the beginning of the last century.. But thats a wholly different, off topic (and oddly on topic) story I don't want to splurge on just yet ;) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 981670 United States 05/29/2010 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | guys, help. I want to live in the same imaginary world that you guys do, but I just can't seem to believe.. What do I do? Quoting: NeesieIt sounds really fun to talk about these imaginary things like they were real, I hate missing out on this fun. you go on and have your fun now. we others will have our fun later, living with our wonderful creator in paradise. I have a feeling you won't. But I don't really care. It's just fun as shit arguing with people so out of touch with reality. Like seriously, it's mad fun, you can't lose. |
Neesie
(OP) User ID: 254206 United States 05/29/2010 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | guys, help. I want to live in the same imaginary world that you guys do, but I just can't seem to believe.. What do I do? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 981670It sounds really fun to talk about these imaginary things like they were real, I hate missing out on this fun. you go on and have your fun now. we others will have our fun later, living with our wonderful creator in paradise. I have a feeling you won't. But I don't really care. It's just fun as shit arguing with people so out of touch with reality. Like seriously, it's mad fun, you can't lose. no, I can't lose but you sure can. .A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell. C. S. Lewis |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 938842 United States 05/29/2010 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Twice? Lol.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 985371-- Anonymous in Germany, Guten Tag ! You would know? I heard three, four times? lol... Gosh, if people only knew, how much civilization is actually beneath us, i just want the long lost art of Levitation technology back again ! Greetcha too :) A german who grew up in canada and decided to see what europe has to offer and got stuck, to be more precise :) just for reference for others here, assuming Moses was talking about egyptian royal cubits the ark was: 516 feet long 86 feet wide 51 feet and 7 inches high --- Now, as far as levitation tech goes, there's two "versions". One branch of levitation science is based on the compression of sound waves, the other, far, far more powerful variant has to do with using water (and some bonus ingredients) to tap into the hyperfrequent standing longitudinal waves emmitted by black holes, or as they are more commonly known the "black suns". Egyptians knew how to to the first type, if I remember correctly french (or was it japanese) scientists figured it out, although not as practible as back then yet.. the latter of the two is far more interesting. As far as the need technology goes, we could have replicated it a few hundred years ago.. but we didn't figure it out until the beginning of the last century.. But thats a wholly different, off topic (and oddly on topic) story I don't want to splurge on just yet ;) hahaha, yes, Danke, I do know my Antigravitational Plasma ship friends utilize it, I see them all the time. theres all the goodies out there, Its just not for public consumption yet. LOL ! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 981670 United States 05/29/2010 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | guys, help. I want to live in the same imaginary world that you guys do, but I just can't seem to believe.. What do I do? Quoting: NeesieIt sounds really fun to talk about these imaginary things like they were real, I hate missing out on this fun. you go on and have your fun now. we others will have our fun later, living with our wonderful creator in paradise. I have a feeling you won't. But I don't really care. It's just fun as shit arguing with people so out of touch with reality. Like seriously, it's mad fun, you can't lose. no, I can't lose but you sure can. It's still funny what you believe. You can't win versus common sense, dude. You only serve to make me realize how gullible and desperate people are. "oh no the world is ending, where is teh gods to save me!!!" LMAO |
Lisadelivers
User ID: 983819 United States 05/29/2010 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What what i mean is, what lineage are your Mentors from...What Rav did they learn from? What Rav to you learn from? Not that it matters...just curious and hoping you are getting a good instruction rather than the Hollywood spin-off style. Quoting: THE PRODIGAL SONWell, it's good to take a break every once in awhile. Must have the renewed Desire to continue the Soul's growth. "Isreal" needs to be more than the other "nations", eh? Our signs are everything, The Entwined Snake Caduceus, the Revelation Cube, Metatron, the Fibonacci Pi Spiral, The Cross, The Serpent cross, the Interlocking Star of David, The Capstone and the Pyramid. I teach the meaning behind all those symbols. (And the Tree of Knowlege) The mathematics and science and fulfillment of the meanings of these symbols. I am of the Light. I have made a A** of myself else where on this board. Being a smart aleck. Maybe more Equilibrium of my darkside and my light. Balance is Good. ;oD Facing our own demons and realizing that they are acually a part of us (revelation of good & evil) is half the battle! So, you basically teach the principles behind the symbols...the origins. You don't teach the whole of the Kabbalah? If not, i can recommend school. I am SO gratful that i have researched the origins of Christianity/Abrahamic religions and ened up where i am. It is true, if you continue to seek Truth it will find you. Lisa I AM that I AM (I shall be what I shall be) "Be still and know..." (Psalm 46:10) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 985371 Germany 05/29/2010 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the Sun, i meant SON will return too. Quoting: THE PRODIGAL SONYour avatar gives me the creeps. Very inappropriate for a Christian. It looks like a homo masturbating. Well, true, true, BUT. let me make this point, I never said I was a Christian and Are we not all bombarded by Half naked women and naked women hundreds of times a day. Why are you picking on the male figure. How do you stand seeing half nude women hundreds of times a day on every magazine, newspaper and tv, how do you stand it, do you ever complain or speak up about it, or do you turn a blind eye, Christian. I assume you are more or less a Qabalist, Prodigal? Like I said, personally I'm not the black / white thinker type, and I am quite versed in kaballistic esoteriscm (among many others - such as the highly related nordic variants) but if I were to take strictly the hebrew and christian greek texts, I would have to deem you a luciferian :) .. but please! - don't take offense.. You see, not all the knowledge the priests of Israel had gleened from Egypt and Babylon (in laymans terms, magicks) was wholesome in nature, and the Bible states explictly where a christian has to place magick - "white" or "black" doesn't matter.. just to quote once instance "one cannot dine at the table of demons and at the table of God".. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 985371 Germany 05/29/2010 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | theres all the goodies out there, Its just not for public consumption yet. Quoting: THE PRODIGAL SONLOL ! On the contrary, I believe that goodie to be just about ready for public consumption, just not in a friendly way.. more in the "I'll-fuck-over-everything-you-ever-believed-in-and-turn your-world-upside-down-so-that-you-will-be-a-little-mallable baby-seeking-answers" kind of way. but, oh my - I'm drifting again, my bad :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 938842 United States 05/29/2010 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What what i mean is, what lineage are your Mentors from...What Rav did they learn from? What Rav to you learn from? Not that it matters...just curious and hoping you are getting a good instruction rather than the Hollywood spin-off style. Quoting: LisadeliversWell, it's good to take a break every once in awhile. Must have the renewed Desire to continue the Soul's growth. "Isreal" needs to be more than the other "nations", eh? Our signs are everything, The Entwined Snake Caduceus, the Revelation Cube, Metatron, the Fibonacci Pi Spiral, The Cross, The Serpent cross, the Interlocking Star of David, The Capstone and the Pyramid. I teach the meaning behind all those symbols. (And the Tree of Knowlege) The mathematics and science and fulfillment of the meanings of these symbols. I am of the Light. I have made a A** of myself else where on this board. Being a smart aleck. Maybe more Equilibrium of my darkside and my light. Balance is Good. ;oD Facing our own demons and realizing that they are acually a part of us (revelation of good & evil) is half the battle! So, you basically teach the principles behind the symbols...the origins. You don't teach the whole of the Kabbalah? If not, i can recommend school. I am SO gratful that i have researched the origins of Christianity/Abrahamic religions and ened up where i am. It is true, if you continue to seek Truth it will find you. Im too stuck in the middle pillar to care much about Mercy and Severity, LOL...I wonder if Ive even experienced any of it? the Ten Sephirot of Nothingness, Thier Measure is ten, which have no end... Chokmah, the Wisdom is the Beginning, The End is Binah, when we understand..... Sure send me a message. I cant reply via this board though, or you can place the link here on the board. No prob, Im sure others benefit. Im learning the polarizing of the ten sephirot on the ten fingers now. and a person on this board says she hates my avatar pic, looks like im masturbating, lol.. LOL |