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If the 'God of the bible' is so terrible, please explain what would make a better God.

 
SARGENT
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If the 'God of the bible' is so terrible, please explain what would make a better God.
I am hoping for discussion not about things we rather God 'not be', but about what you would expect a good and perfect God 'to be'.

This is not to be a God bashing thread, but a thread of really what would make a good and perfect God if the God of the bible is so terrible.
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Re: If the 'God of the bible' is so terrible, please explain what would make a better God.
you are confusing "God" with "satan".
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06/09/2010 11:06 AM
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Re: If the 'God of the bible' is so terrible, please explain what would make a better God.
God is no good or evil. He is what he is, according to himself. Your judgment is not going to change a bit to what he wants to do. Either you accept to learn the lessons he wants to teach or he shows the hard way. There is no escape when he is controlling our matrix.

It is not US to tell how God has to be. It is US to understand why we are were we are and take the conclusions (what is currently too painful for the majority to do).
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Re: If the 'God of the bible' is so terrible, please explain what would make a better God.
God is no good or evil. He is what he is, according to himself. Your judgment is not going to change a bit to what he wants to do. Either you accept to learn the lessons he wants to teach or he shows the hard way. There is no escape when he is controlling our matrix.

It is not US to tell how God has to be. It is US to understand why we are were we are and take the conclusions (what is currently too painful for the majority to do).
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ok, so if "God" is neither what is "satan" then?

just a figment of "God"s imagination?

I mean if "God" fulfills both roles of a bad/good cop, why the need for satan?
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06/09/2010 11:11 AM
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Re: If the 'God of the bible' is so terrible, please explain what would make a better God.
I would find it refreshing to see justice in the world. I'd like to see God take care of evil villains like Bush, Cheney, Clinton, Manuel, etc.
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06/09/2010 11:13 AM
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anon
Ishtar, Anna, Rhiannon, Dianna, . .etc.
she of a thousand names, was doing just fine
until the new god on the block showed up and
declared war on all things natural.
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Re: If the 'God of the bible' is so terrible, please explain what would make a better God.
I am hoping for discussion not about things we rather God 'not be', but about what you would expect a good and perfect God 'to be'.

This is not to be a God bashing thread, but a thread of really what would make a good and perfect God if the God of the bible is so terrible.
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One who isn't made up?
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Re: If the 'God of the bible' is so terrible, please explain what would make a better God.
Ok, so if "God" is neither what is "satan" then?

just a figment of "God"s imagination?

I mean if "God" fulfills both roles of a bad/good cop, why the need for satan?
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Satan is a tool of polarity just showing us what we should not do. If we follow him, we have to assume the consequences.

It's like it is known that it is dangerous to drive too fast on the highway. But God is not a policeman controlling your speed. If you follow the speed he is advising you will be fine, if you decide to go three times the speed, have an accident and get paraplegic, you can't say it was not your fault. Yet most won't see their fault, they will blame the block or the other car that was there at the wrong place. And this is Satan. A way of pushing responsibility upon somebody else. If everybody does it, we have hell.
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Re: If the 'God of the bible' is so terrible, please explain what would make a better God.
Ok, so if "God" is neither what is "satan" then?

just a figment of "God"s imagination?

I mean if "God" fulfills both roles of a bad/good cop, why the need for satan?


Satan is a tool of polarity just showing us what we should not do. If we follow him, we have to assume the consequences.

It's like it is known that it is dangerous to drive too fast on the highway. But God is not a policeman controlling your speed. If you follow the speed he is advising you will be fine, if you decide to go three times the speed, have an accident and get paraplegic, you can't say it was not your fault. Yet most won't see their fault, they will blame the block or the other car that was there at the wrong place. And this is Satan. A way of pushing responsibility upon somebody else. If everybody does it, we have hell.
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OK, so i get it that you believe in "god" but think that "Satan" is just a figment of imagination that was put in the bible as a side kick to make "God" look better?

really? A believer believes in this?
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Re: If the 'God of the bible' is so terrible, please explain what would make a better God.
It would appear that this god created this defective spicies and walked away.

Maybe god should take some responsibility for his actions like is expected of us,you know,set by example.

Ya I know about Jesus but that didnt work so does your god just give up.

We as a spicies are what I would call a failed experiment....and it just gets better(or worse) everyday.
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Re: If the 'God of the bible' is so terrible, please explain what would make a better God.
Ok, so if "God" is neither what is "satan" then?

just a figment of "God"s imagination?

I mean if "God" fulfills both roles of a bad/good cop, why the need for satan?


Satan is a tool of polarity just showing us what we should not do. If we follow him, we have to assume the consequences.

It's like it is known that it is dangerous to drive too fast on the highway. But God is not a policeman controlling your speed. If you follow the speed he is advising you will be fine, if you decide to go three times the speed, have an accident and get paraplegic, you can't say it was not your fault. Yet most won't see their fault, they will blame the block or the other car that was there at the wrong place. And this is Satan. A way of pushing responsibility upon somebody else. If everybody does it, we have hell.
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+1000 you are there at the point! hf
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Re: If the 'God of the bible' is so terrible, please explain what would make a better God.
I believe in God as pure energy. Out of this energy, you can have entities polarized on one side or the other. Your own energy is attracting alike. I am not saying that the one who wrote the bible is not calling himself God and there is not a bad entity in the entire universe called Satan, but even one day to proceed further you will have to transcend your current teacher called God to another one. When you reach that step, you will have understood what you had to learn and not try to facet God to your human perspective.
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Re: If the 'God of the bible' is so terrible, please explain what would make a better God.
Ok, so if "God" is neither what is "satan" then?

just a figment of "God"s imagination?

I mean if "God" fulfills both roles of a bad/good cop, why the need for satan?


Satan is a tool of polarity just showing us what we should not do. If we follow him, we have to assume the consequences.

It's like it is known that it is dangerous to drive too fast on the highway. But God is not a policeman controlling your speed. If you follow the speed he is advising you will be fine, if you decide to go three times the speed, have an accident and get paraplegic, you can't say it was not your fault. Yet most won't see their fault, they will blame the block or the other car that was there at the wrong place. And this is Satan. A way of pushing responsibility upon somebody else. If everybody does it, we have hell.
 Quoting: <| NutOnTheEdge |>


Oh and another question regarding this thesis...


"god" says thoug shall not kill...

So which "God" in the OT was the one that tells numerous times to kill and mame the women, children, men and only spare virgins so that the army can have fun?

??

This sounds more like satan to me... but of course to you, it is just "God" that doesn't follow it's own commandments?
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Re: If the 'God of the bible' is so terrible, please explain what would make a better God.
I believe in God as pure energy. Out of this energy, you can have entities polarized on one side or the other. Your own energy is attracting alike. I am not saying that the one who wrote the bible is not calling himself God and there is not a bad entity in the entire universe called Satan, but even one day to proceed further you will have to transcend your current teacher called God to another one. When you reach that step, you will have understood what you had to learn and not try to facet God to your human perspective.
 Quoting: <| NutOnTheEdge |>


OK, then... We are more in line than I thought...

You could have said that you do not believe in the "God" of the bible.
Instead of me trying to figure out all the inconcistencies that derived from that stance lol


I also believe in Universal law/energy or karma or whatever it is...

But the "God" and the "Satan" of the Bible are not "Gods" but simpley entities that like to play "God"
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Re: If the 'God of the bible' is so terrible, please explain what would make a better God.
A God that would create a life where we arent attacked daily by microorganisms.

A life where the total concept and design wasnt to make all living things hunt, kill and feed off eachother.

and a life we dont deteriorate daily until ultimately our bodies fail and die a slow difficult death.
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Re: If the 'God of the bible' is so terrible, please explain what would make a better God.
Thou art God. Do you grok?

So what would make YOU a better YOU?

Therein lies the key. :) :hf:
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06/09/2010 11:34 AM
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Re: If the 'God of the bible' is so terrible, please explain what would make a better God.
Thou art God. Do you grok?

So what would make YOU a better YOU?

Therein lies the key. :) :hf:
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You can't be better. YOU are perfect. Everyone just seeks to project their impurities on the world.
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Re: If the 'God of the bible' is so terrible, please explain what would make a better God.
A completely open, present and self-conscious ONE.
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Re: If the 'God of the bible' is so terrible, please explain what would make a better God.
There IS a One True Almighty God Creator of the Heavens and Earth and YOU. He is occasionally spoken of and speaks in the "christian" bible and the Jewish Torah.

MOST of what is said about and by Almighty God in the "christian" bible and the Jewish Torah is NOT truly Almighty God but the deceiver, the imposter who seeks Flesh and Blood sacrifice, death, murder, and worship of idols.

The One True Almighty God is ALL LOVING and TOTALLY COMMITTED TO LIFE, the Continuation of LIFE, and PEACE.

Everything else that has been written or spoken about Almighty God that does not line up with LOVE, LIFE, and PEACE, is a LIE.
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There IS a One True Almighty God Creator of the Heavens and Earth and YOU. He is occasionally spoken of and speaks in the "christian" bible and the Jewish Torah.

MOST of what is said about and by Almighty God in the "christian" bible and the Jewish Torah is NOT truly Almighty God but the deceiver, the imposter who seeks Flesh and Blood sacrifice, death, murder, and worship of idols.

The One True Almighty God is ALL LOVING and TOTALLY COMMITTED TO LIFE, the Continuation of LIFE, and PEACE.

Everything else that has been written or spoken about Almighty God that does not line up with LOVE, LIFE, and PEACE, is a LIE.
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this is what I'm saying but people just don't understand...


how can a god that tells "shall not kill" expect people to kill, steal, rape in "his" name and still the people consider "him" as god.

God of the Bible is the satan... just look at "Gods" special ones. If they are not proof that they are not of God but of satan, then I rest my case.
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Re: If the 'God of the bible' is so terrible, please explain what would make a better God.
Thou art God. Do you grok?

So what would make YOU a better YOU?

Therein lies the key. :) :hf:


You can't be better. YOU are perfect. Everyone just seeks to project their impurities on the world.
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Well, we might have to disagree there :) I am perfectly imperfect and that's cool. But I do think there is PLENTY of room for improvement for us all. What's wrong with that? That's what makes the game fun and fulfilling!

Don't get me wrong - I don't mistake perfection for cloned individuals. I love the diversity in this world...but we could all surely become a bit more god-like....and I think that is what the OP was asking...What IS god-like?

Loving? Forgiving? Enthusiastic about this wonderful universe in which we live? Knowledgeable? Compassionate? Humorous?

Should we not all seek to become more knowledgeable about the world in which we live? In each other? Should we not seek to be compassionate to our fellow man? And to ourselves? Humorous to bring laughter to our brothers and sisters, and to laugh at ourselves? Forgiving to help ourselves find peace which in turn propagates to others? Loving in order to share the joy of life?
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