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Any Washington State residents here? OMG new ruling says visiting shoppers from British Columbia will be exempt from state sales tax?!?! WTF ???

 
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Any Washington State residents here? OMG new ruling says visiting shoppers from British Columbia will be exempt from state sales tax?!?! WTF ???
I went looking to see if the Bellingham Herald had any coverage of that Iranian arms dealer bust in Ferndale. Haven't seen any yet but the front page story today is unbelievable!

How could they possibly say that Canadian shoppers coming down to shop in Whatcom County & other Washington locales, would be exempt from our state sales tax? That seems just insane. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. And it's not like British Columbia is going to reciprocate! That would NEVER happen!

I am really appalled. Like we don't have enough problems already without cutting "foriegners" a break - AGAIN.
(I work retail in Whatcom county & LOVE our Canadian customers, don't get me wrong, I also spend a couple of weekends a month in Vancouver. There is no anti-Canadian bias here, I am in love with one <3)

Bellingham Herald content follows:

It appears that nobody in local government had any idea that such a thing could happen until the Department of Revenue issued a brief press release Tuesday afternoon announcing the change: Beginning July 1, B.C. residents can claim the exemption from the 8.5 percent combined state and local sales tax by flashing a driver's license or other proof of residency at the register.

"Everyone was caught flat-footed," Pike said.

Pike noted that the new tax system is drawing some furious opposition in British Columbia, and if a grassroots referendum process there succeeds in overturning it, the revenue problem for local governments might disappear. He said the state should have waited on political events north of the border before issuing its ruling.

Department of Revenue spokesman Mike Gowrylow said the new exemption for B.C. residents is the result of two factors: a 1965 law meant to benefit Clark County merchants, and a change in the tax system in British Columbia.

[link to www.bellinghamherald.com]
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Cutting "foreigners" a break? Pfff... I won't even say what I'm thinking.

And this is GOOD for you. This is encouraging more British Columbians to come over and buy stuff in America, when they could just spend their money in Canada.
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let me see....yet if I go to Portland, Oregon...and buy a TV...I still have to pay Wash. state tax on it...even though they have no sales tax in Oregon...hmmm...state residents just can't win....glad to see someone can...
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Re: Any Washington State residents here? OMG new ruling says visiting shoppers from British Columbia will be exempt from state sales tax?!?! WTF ???
I'm in Washington. In general I don't begrudge the sales tax on real goods, though I do believe they could spend the money more frugally.

I also don't care if others get a tax break, as long as this does not make a lot of extra work for sales clerks and the like. I don't know what the plan is now, but it used to be that you had to fill out a decently long form every time someone wanted a fifteen cent tax break.

They should just put a bottom tax break limit on the deal t prevent that from taking place, as it gets to be a hassle and places hardship on civilians not employed by the state to do the work of the state.
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They're saying border towns like Blaine and Bellingham would see a ten percent drop in sales tax revenues.

Obviously the Canadians would love it, and I have no problem with them being entitled to their point of view!

Obviously more Canadians would come down and shop, and that would benefit me directly if they did!

However, why the fuck should we give them exemption from sales tax (that questions stands alone) when there is no chance in hell that the province of BC would EVER reciprocate and make Washington State residents exempt from sales tax in British Columbia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face! WHERE do they come up with these ideas?
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i am from the city of seatac. just look at the governor we have. here's some other great things she has done. there is now a tax on beer. she also put a tax on booze. she planning to push the price of cigarettes to 10 dollars. here is the best. if candy has flour in it there is no tax. without flour there is a tax. there goes the hersey bar. she built up a deficate in her first term now she's trying to pay for it. she also wants to put toll booths on i-5. just thinkwe will have to go to canada to buy hersey bars. rant
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Cutting "foreigners" a break? Pfff... I won't even say what I'm thinking.

And this is GOOD for you. This is encouraging more British Columbians to come over and buy stuff in America, when they could just spend their money in Canada.
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The reason I can see for this action is to encourage Canadians to spend there. It should help stimulate the local economy.

If they want to complain about us helping their economy then, keep your money at home Canadians. Stop purchasing anything from their state.
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They're saying border towns like Blaine and Bellingham would see a ten percent drop in sales tax revenues.

Obviously the Canadians would love it, and I have no problem with them being entitled to their point of view!

Obviously more Canadians would come down and shop, and that would benefit me directly if they did!

However, why the fuck should we give them exemption from sales tax (that questions stands alone) when there is no chance in hell that the province of BC would EVER reciprocate and make Washington State residents exempt from sales tax in British Columbia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face! WHERE do they come up with these ideas?
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Actually, if you are not a citizen of Canada, you can apply when you get home to get your money back from taxes paid. I provide the documentation on how to do this all the time to people.

So you are full of crap, you can get your money back.
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let me see....yet if I go to Portland, Oregon...and buy a TV...I still have to pay Wash. state tax on it...even though they have no sales tax in Oregon...hmmm...state residents just can't win....glad to see someone can...
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Why would you have to pay sales tax on goods bought in Oregon, and who would enforce that? I'm in Oregon btw.
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Actually, if you are not a citizen of Canada, you can apply when you get home to get your money back from taxes paid. I provide the documentation on how to do this all the time to people.

So you are full of crap, you can get your money back.
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This is true. OP, you are inaccurate. Americans can get a tax break.
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let me see....yet if I go to Portland, Oregon...and buy a TV...I still have to pay Wash. state tax on it...even though they have no sales tax in Oregon...hmmm...state residents just can't win....glad to see someone can...


Why would you have to pay sales tax on goods bought in Oregon, and who would enforce that? I'm in Oregon btw.
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The ask you at the register what state you are from.

Obviously you can get away with it on small purchases, but not something large.

And yet Oregon residents have a tax-exempt card so they can shop in WA and not pay tax.

Then if you live in WA and work in OR you get to pay state taxes that don't even benefit you.
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let me see....yet if I go to Portland, Oregon...and buy a TV...I still have to pay Wash. state tax on it...even though they have no sales tax in Oregon...hmmm...state residents just can't win....glad to see someone can...


Why would you have to pay sales tax on goods bought in Oregon, and who would enforce that? I'm in Oregon btw.


The ask you at the register what state you are from.

Obviously you can get away with it on small purchases, but not something large.

And yet Oregon residents have a tax-exempt card so they can shop in WA and not pay tax.

Then if you live in WA and work in OR you get to pay state taxes that don't even benefit you.
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I've never heard of this tax-exempt card and I've lived in Oregon my whole life. You should move to Oregon then, we're a much better state anyway.
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"foreigners"
hmmmm,
did you see last week ,when one of the papers had a story about how,some east part of the state place had been
useing guest workers in stead of american workers?


"Jun 2, 2010 ... BREWSTER, Wash. – Five months after Gebbers Farms fired an undisclosed number of undocumented workers during a federal audit, Jamaican guest workers ..."


you find in in google, it's sad, the same uber rich farm owners who use the undocumented workers in the first place cause they wouldn't hire americans, now just brought in
guest workers, don't ya think those jobs in this time of need should go to americans?

why is uber rich fucks trying everything but useing american workers?
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Actually, if you are not a citizen of Canada, you can apply when you get home to get your money back from taxes paid. I provide the documentation on how to do this all the time to people.

So you are full of crap, you can get your money back.


This is true. OP, you are inaccurate. Americans can get a tax break.
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I thought there was a dollar limit on that, that your purchase had to be over a certain amount, plus not in certain categories, and it's only for the GST, not for the PST? Would you file the paperwork for going to the drugstore for toilet paper and stuff, like people do when they shop down here?

I have ZERO anti-Canadian feeling. I have been in love with a Canadian and dating across the border for TEN YEARS. Before that I took all my vacations in Canada for ten years too. I have Canadian ancestors.

But with the economy sucking so bad the way it is now, the local sales tax revenues have already plummeted, like 13% is what I heard? So if you combine that shortfall with removing sales tax on sales to tourists, which they estimated might produce ANOTHER ten percent drop, where does that leave our already hit-hard public transportation system?

I am actually against the whole idea of even having a sales tax, I owned a business for many years and collected sales tax for the state, and when you really start to think about it on a different level, the legality of it, okay I'm cutting myself off, that's a whole topic of its own.

I don't look forward to having our good Canadian customers fill out a form with all their information for every little .25 cents in tax they would have paid otherwise.

I LOVE it that Canadians shop down here. I wouldn't care if they got a break. I have NOTHING against Canadians, I love their business. I just CANNOT understand why Washington state would do this at this time. I am 100% positive that they were not motivated by how it would be all stimulating to the economy. That was not the lines they were thinking - they never do, I don't think they are capable of it.
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For those who are pointing out that you can get an exemption from Canadian sales tax by filing a form after the fact and mailing it in and waiting for a check, I don't believe that's what they are talking about here, I believe they are talking about being exempt at the cash register, I do not equate those two systems, I don't see that as reciprocal, plus, someone want to clarify since you brought it up, is it on both the PST and the GST?

Also what Mayor Dan Pike said in the article wasn't entirely clear to me at first reading, I don't think he meant that "if they pass the HST, so many Canadians are going to be pissed off that they will do all their shopping in the US to protest" but that's how I took it on first reading.
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I just want to clarify my position, I'm sure my ranting didn't come across right, I am not pissed that Canadians could get a good deal. I would love to see my Canadian friends get a good deal. That is not the source of my frustration.

I was pissed and shocked because the people proposing this are not the ones who would be affected. It wasn't local border communities who thought this up. The local border towns are the ones who need all the sales tax revenue for essential services. They are already having problems because of the slow economy.

For the boneheads in the capitol, Olympia, to just hit the border towns with this out of the blue, that's what's appalling, and I just don't get why such a thing would ever occur to them!!!! It was NOT proposed to "stimulate" the economy by inviting Canadian shoppers down for a good deal. They do not have the best interest of small shopkeepers in mind, you can bank on that.
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let me see....yet if I go to Portland, Oregon...and buy a TV...I still have to pay Wash. state tax on it...even though they have no sales tax in Oregon...hmmm...state residents just can't win....glad to see someone can...
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WHY???

The store in Oregon isn't going to charge you a sales tax!

I go to a Costco near PDX. The Parking Lot is PACKED with Washington license plates and has been that way for years. They aren't paying sales tax at the checkout line, so how does WA know you bought a TV in Oregon???

Autos, I know, get hit even if purchased in Ore, but that's because you have to register the car so they know you bought it.
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They're saying border towns like Blaine and Bellingham would see a ten percent drop in sales tax revenues.

Obviously the Canadians would love it, and I have no problem with them being entitled to their point of view!

Obviously more Canadians would come down and shop, and that would benefit me directly if they did!

However, why the fuck should we give them exemption from sales tax (that questions stands alone) when there is no chance in hell that the province of BC would EVER reciprocate and make Washington State residents exempt from sales tax in British Columbia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face! WHERE do they come up with these ideas?
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How is it hurting you if it is helping you?

Retailers near the border would see an increase in business. They will hire more people and therefore there would be an increase in payroll taxes and employment.

Seems like a good thing.
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How is it hurting you if it is helping you?

Retailers near the border would see an increase in business. They will hire more people and therefore there would be an increase in payroll taxes and employment.

Seems like a good thing.
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Actually, this is a brilliant move, and the timing is VERY specific... oh, smart smart decision!

You see, unless we are able to block it, BC will fall under the new HST (Harmonized Sales Tax) as of July 1st. This is going to cause a LARGE increase in what we are paying for even day-to-day goods, never mind large purchases. In addition, it's going to be a HUGE blow to employment in the province.

This will drive BC shoppers across the border in DROVES. I understand 100% why this is upsetting, as it seems YOU guys are getting the shaft while we get a huge bonus. But the increased business, not to mention increased employment, as stated above, will be a HUGE benefit. Additionally, smaller service industries, like restaurants, hotels, gas stations, etc. will see a LARGE increase in business, and I bet if we dig a bit deeper we'll find that there's some form of state subsidy to offset the tax waiver.

I totally get being upset about this, on a personal level, but you have to admire the brilliance and foresight of your state's plan here. Way to play our own economy against itself! LOL if anything, forward-thinking CANADIANS should be upset, as well... I GUARANTEE there will be a huge outcry from small-to-midsized businesses on this side of the fence, especially along the border!

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Any tax exempt sales (items bought for resale) in the US must have strict documentation. Are they requiring the same here? If not, any store could give that break to anyone they chose with no way for the state to disqualify it.
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Actually, if you are not a citizen of Canada, you can apply when you get home to get your money back from taxes paid. I provide the documentation on how to do this all the time to people.

So you are full of crap, you can get your money back.
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Same thing when I traveled to Europe and Ireland. If you're from out of the country, you can have sales taxes refunded.
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let me see....yet if I go to Portland, Oregon...and buy a TV...I still have to pay Wash. state tax on it...even though they have no sales tax in Oregon...hmmm...state residents just can't win....glad to see someone can...


Why would you have to pay sales tax on goods bought in Oregon, and who would enforce that? I'm in Oregon btw.


The ask you at the register what state you are from.

Obviously you can get away with it on small purchases, but not something large.

And yet Oregon residents have a tax-exempt card so they can shop in WA and not pay tax.

Then if you live in WA and work in OR you get to pay state taxes that don't even benefit you.
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Complete Bullshit! (except for the part where WA residents get stuck paying Oregon income taxes because they work in ORE- that is a screw job - and one that a good atty should take on by suing the state of Oregon for no representation but taxation)....

The ask you at the register what state you are from.

Obviously you can get away with it on small purchases, but not something large.


'They' don't ask what state you are from! Even if they did, say: "Oregon!" But no clerk at the TV store gives a shit if you are from Oregon or Washington or New Jersey. Why? Because NO STORE IN OREGON IS OBLIGATED TO COLLECT TAXES FOR THE STATE OF WASHINGTON!

And yet Oregon residents have a tax-exempt card so they can shop in WA and not pay tax.


Oregonians have a 'tax exempt card'??? Again, you are clueless. Oregonians, like everyone else, have things called 'Driver Licenses'. If I go to buy something at a store in Vancouver or Seattle or Bellingham I can flash my ODL and, IF THE STORE WANTS TO, the store can fill out the appropriate paperwork that saves me from having to pay wash state sales tax.

The store is not obligated to do this, BTW... Just like I am not obligated to shop in a particular store. But if the store wants my business, he's going to provide the paperwork so I don't have to pay a tax to WA state.
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How is it hurting you if it is helping you?

Retailers near the border would see an increase in business. They will hire more people and therefore there would be an increase in payroll taxes and employment.

Seems like a good thing.


Actually, this is a brilliant move, and the timing is VERY specific... oh, smart smart decision!

You see, unless we are able to block it, BC will fall under the new HST (Harmonized Sales Tax) as of July 1st. This is going to cause a LARGE increase in what we are paying for even day-to-day goods, never mind large purchases. In addition, it's going to be a HUGE blow to employment in the province.

This will drive BC shoppers across the border in DROVES. I understand 100% why this is upsetting, as it seems YOU guys are getting the shaft while we get a huge bonus. But the increased business, not to mention increased employment, as stated above, will be a HUGE benefit. Additionally, smaller service industries, like restaurants, hotels, gas stations, etc. will see a LARGE increase in business, and I bet if we dig a bit deeper we'll find that there's some form of state subsidy to offset the tax waiver.

I totally get being upset about this, on a personal level, but you have to admire the brilliance and foresight of your state's plan here. Way to play our own economy against itself! LOL if anything, forward-thinking CANADIANS should be upset, as well... I GUARANTEE there will be a huge outcry from small-to-midsized businesses on this side of the fence, especially along the border!

Cheers!


 Quoting: MountainTux



Anything that brings sales is a good thing at this point.

I shop at a Costco near the Portland airport; which happens to be directly across the river from WA.

Until a few years ago, this was the SINGLE BUSIEST COSTCO in the world.

Why? All the WA license plates in the parking lot. You'd be an idiot to buy a $1000 refrigerator in WA when you can drive 5 miles and save nearly $100 in taxes.

They built a new Costco in Vancouver, and now WA people who aren't making big purchases shop there to save the traffic jam driving into Oregon... So this store is still very busy, but no longer the busiest.


Question, WHAT is the 'Harmonized Sales Tax'???

Harmony. Such a nice, soft, warm word. It must be something Great the Gov't is doing to you!!
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probably because when you go to Canada, they do the same? Duty free stores too...
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For the border bullsh!t we have to deal with to enter the USA you should be thankful that Canadians are choosing to spend their money in your country.

Plus, you expect Canadians to show their ID everytime we make a purchase in Washinton State and have local businesses cut us a deal?

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Actually, if you are not a citizen of Canada, you can apply when you get home to get your money back from taxes paid. I provide the documentation on how to do this all the time to people.

So you are full of crap, you can get your money back.


This is true. OP, you are inaccurate. Americans can get a tax break.
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Right, the difference is we used to be able to get our refund at the border on our way out of Canada but they don't do that anymore. Who takes the time to send in paperwork?

So, maybe WA state should give Canadians the paperwork to get the tax refunded after they get home?

Not that it matters, really. Lots of Canadians shop in Bellinham because the prices are better than in Canada. My daughter managed a Shucks Auto Supply up there and had a ton of Canandians come down to get their auto stuff.
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Actually, this is a brilliant move, and the timing is VERY specific... oh, smart smart decision!

You see, unless we are able to block it, BC will fall under the new HST (Harmonized Sales Tax) as of July 1st. This is going to cause a LARGE increase in what we are paying for even day-to-day goods, never mind large purchases. In addition, it's going to be a HUGE blow to employment in the province.

This will drive BC shoppers across the border in DROVES. I understand 100% why this is upsetting, as it seems YOU guys are getting the shaft while we get a huge bonus. But the increased business, not to mention increased employment, as stated above, will be a HUGE benefit. Additionally, smaller service industries, like restaurants, hotels, gas stations, etc. will see a LARGE increase in business, and I bet if we dig a bit deeper we'll find that there's some form of state subsidy to offset the tax waiver.

I totally get being upset about this, on a personal level, but you have to admire the brilliance and foresight of your state's plan here. Way to play our own economy against itself! LOL if anything, forward-thinking CANADIANS should be upset, as well... I GUARANTEE there will be a huge outcry from small-to-midsized businesses on this side of the fence, especially along the border!

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all right Mountain Tux, you had the best answer in this thread, thanks. I did fly off the handle when I saw that big article on the Bellingham Herald web site. I just can't see why a state that is in trouble financially with big budget shortfalls would sit around thinking of ways to reduce revenue - but you're right, with the HST controversy, there will be plenty of Canadians coming down, they do already of course, and our prices are better on just about everything down here, I know, cause I spend a lot of time in Vancouver and I know how much groceries & basic HH supplies cost up there, they never go on sale with deep discounts like they do down here. My boyfriend gets most of his clothes & stuff like that down here, much better prices. Our sales tax is already half what you pay in BC, wait til theirs goes up another third, scary.
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Re: Any Washington State residents here? OMG new ruling says visiting shoppers from British Columbia will be exempt from state sales tax?!?! WTF ???
Question, WHAT is the 'Harmonized Sales Tax'???

Harmony. Such a nice, soft, warm word. It must be something Great the Gov't is doing to you!!
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Well, in answer to your question, here's the HST in a nutshell. This is a brief explanation for a far-reaching potentially VERY damaging tax alteration, which will of COURSE hit the average Joe the hardest...

"H.S.T. Explained

With all this talk about H.S.T., it is often difficult to know how these proposed changes will affect you, the average British Columbian. The bottom line is at the end of the day, this new tax will end up costing you more money by making you pay 7% more tax on a wide range of goods and services.

Right now, there are many goods and services which are exempt from the 7% Provincial Sales Tax (P.S.T). Once H.S.T. is in place, that means that all those goods and services that were once exempt, will now cost 7% more. Can you afford this increase in taxes during a time of a damaging recession? Click here to see a breakdown of some of what will now cost you 7% more."

I'm sure you can see the implications.
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That bust was 2 weeks ago. I just found it the other day.
I'm trying to figure out how we all missed it.
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Our sales tax is already half what you pay in BC, wait til theirs goes up another third, scary.
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Yes, and it goes MUCH farther than that...

Thanks to our government screwing our Forestry industry, BC now relies primarily on tourism as our provincial source of income. And the HST impacts tourism and recreation in a HUGE way, and a very NEGATIVE one. We're going to see MANY small businesses which can no longer afford to operate, meaning MORE unemployment, especially in areas such as where I live (Vancouver Island.) This in turn means less money to afford more taxes... the spiral deepens.

It's getting pretty ugly here. And THAT is where the move comes from, and again I say BRILLIANT strategy from WA.
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I live in Whatcom County. Canadians will continue to shop here, eat here, get their gas here and fly out of our airport because our prices are across the board 20-30% lower than in BC. The only thing this does is hurt local tax revenue. This move will not benefit Whatcom County, but be detrimental to our economy. I don't feel that Canadians should get a break. I'm a resident and I don't get a break. And the analogies to OR and Alaska are irrelevant. Last time I checked BC is in Canada, and those resident are not even US citizens. I personally am tired of all the entitled Canadians coming into the states with their snotty attitudes, clogging up our highways, speeding and driving erratically. I say continue to tax them, just as they tax us their ridiculous taxes when we go to BC.





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