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THE HEAVENLY BEAUTY THAT GRACE GIVES TO THE SOUL


Beauty is the principal object of pure love. Even the perishable beauty of the body enkindles the heart to love. But the higher qualities of the heart and of the spirit can so captivate a soul that the will of the beloved becomes powerless, and it stands blindly, ready to serve at the beck of the one loved.

From God’s ineffable love of our soul, we can only conclude that the soul must have a wonderful, heavenly beauty. And this is so much the more, since the divine love is able not only to estimate things at their true worth, but is also powerful enough to make them worthy of itself.

Human love presupposes beauty in the object. Man must find real beauty already present; otherwise, he cannot become enthusiastic enough to love. But he cannot give the beauty. Divine love, however, is the cause of beauty. For all things have of themselves nothing, having received their whole being from God. Thus, God can love a thing only insofar as He makes it partaker of His own goodness and beauty.

That holds in general for all of God’s love and for all beauty and goodness of created things. But it holds in a very special way for the supernatural love of God and the supernatural beauty of the spirit. When God stoops down to our soul with supernatural love, He adorns it with a supernatural beauty, and precisely because of this beauty, which He Himself has given us, His loving eye rests on us with unspeakable complacency. But since, through grace, the love of God becomes active in us and abides with us, grace must contain God’s beauty in itself and bestow it upon us.

Therefore, St. Augustine says, speaking of the elevation of man through grace: “When human nature, distinguished above all others, is cleansed from injustice, it is changed from hideousness to beauty.” (De Trin. 1. 15, c.8, n. 14). Still more appropriately St. Cyril of Alexandria teaches that, when we remain holy, we form Christ in ourselves and bear His features and His behavior. (Contra Anthrop. c. 6).

Indeed, the image of the Divine Nature and holiness is impressed on our soul thorugh grace. It becomes a mirror of beauty, that is, of the holiness in God, and reflects, though not in all its purity and clarity, this holiness. It becomes a child of God, an adopted child, clothed as it were with a mantle, with the royal ornaments of God’s own Son, that is, with His virtues. It becomes a newborn child, because the heavenly Father, who had impressed on him at his creation only a shadow of the Divine Nature, now shares His divine life, not only in figure, but in reality and impresses on the soul His divine features, just as on His natural son. The soul is made deiform, godlike, according to the holy Fathers and mystics; it is made like God’s holiness and thereby becomes partaker of God’s own beauty.

Whoever wishes to imagine the beauty of a soul having grace must have seen the infinite beauty of God, that beauty which the Angels long to see, that beauty which contains all created beauty in itself, that beauty which is the pattern, the measure, and the unattainable ideal of all that man considers splendid, of all the beauty that God can create.

Moreover, through grace our soul becomes a temple—the true throne—of the Holy Ghost and of the Holy Trinity, of which the Temple and the Holy of Holies in Jerusalem were only a type. But if that temple of stone was, by command of God, decorated so splendidly that it was rightly reckoned among the wonders of the world, what will God not offer to decorate this living temple as befits His majesty!

If God covers the earth, which is but His footstool, with the richest and most diversified tapestry of beautiful verdure, crowns it with wreaths of the loveliest flowers, encircles it with silvery threads of streams and rivers and places the twinkling stars as diamonds above it, what heavenly treasures, what precious pearls, what magnificent splendor will He bestow on the temple of our soul, in which He, with all the love of His Divine Heart, dwells and will continue to dwell forever?

And if men seek to make their temple of stone grand and magnificent with all the resources of wealth and art, how much more will God adorn and glorify the sanctuary of our soul, where He is adored in spirit and truth?

“To the just soul,” says St. Ambrose, “God speaks as He once did to Jerusalem: ‘Behold Jerusalem, I have painted thy walls.’ The painting of the soul consists in this, that with the help of grace it reflects in its activity a beautiful image of the divine activity and holiness.”`

Hence, Solomon, in The Canticle of Canticles, praises so enthusiastically this divine beauty of the just soul. How great this beauty is and of what kind—that no mortal can express or understand. If the natural beauty of a great and noble soul surpasses all corporeal beauty, how much more true is this of the supernatural beauty that is had through grace? For there is a greater distance between grace and the natural being of the soul than between the soul and all the beauty of the visible world. That the heavenly beauty of grace is invisible for our bodily eye—and even for the eye of our soul—does not lessen its greatness. This is rather a sign of its sublimity, since all that we can see or attain through reason has only a limited and earthly beauty. Indeed, if the splendor of a soul adorned with grace could be seen, those looking on would be enraptured and transported with wonder and delight.

When God once revealed this beauty to St. Catherine of Siena, she covered with kisses the footsteps of those who were engaged in bringing sinners back to the grace of God. Transported with joy, she said to her confessor: “If you, my father, could behold the beauty of one soul adorned with grace, you would gladly suffer death a thousand times for the sake of one such soul.”

Christ Himself, who was drawn down to earth by this splendor of holy souls, or rather with the purpose of imparting this splendor to souls, said to St. Bridget that if she would see this beauty she would be blinded and overcome and would faint away as though lifeless.

Indeed, just as our eyes can be blinded, not only by the sun itself, but also by its reflection in a crystal, so the human soul cannot bear the reflection of the divine light that is given out by the soul having grace. If gazing at the bright sun causes all around us to become dark, what would the beholding of a soul in the splendor of its supernatural glory effect? When St. Frances of Rome saw her Angel near her, the light of the sun was darkened by his brightness.

Even the Angels, who are accustomed to heavenly sights, are enraptured by this beauty. It is they who in The Canticle of Canticles cry out at the sight of the soul joined to God through grace: “Who is this that cometh up from the desert, flowing with delights, leaning upon her beloved?” (Cant. 8:5).

Indeed, the glory to which God raises the soul through grace is so great that even the natural beauty of the Angels is as nothing compared with it. The Angels themselves wonder how a soul that was sunk in the desert of this sinful earth and robbed of all natural beauty can be clothed with such a wonderful splendor. But this wonder of the Angels will not surprise us when we see and hear that God Himself considers the beauty of grace with astonishment and rapture. For how otherwise can we explain what He says in The Canticle of Canticles to the soul: “How beautiful art thou, my love, how beautiful art thou!” (Cant. 4:1)

God is not concerned with the beauty of bodies, which He by His word brought out of nothingness. He can be astonished at nothing that is not divine. As He considers throughout eternity His infinite beauty with the same endless delight, His eye also rests with unspeakable satisfaction upon the image of His Divine Nature, which the Holy Ghost impresses as a seal upon our soul. He is astonished, as it were, at the wonderful power of His love, which is able to adorn with such beauty a poor, miserable creature and to make it so much like Himself. He is astonished with the gold of His grace. He is astonished with the beautiful and lovely garden, with never-fading bloom, which His love has planted, refreshed by the breath of His Holy Spirit as by a mild, vernal breeze, and in which He dwells with unspeakable delight. And thus He cries out repeatedly: “How beautiful art thou, my love, how beautiful art thou!” (Cant. 4:1)

Does not this twofold exclamation indicate a twofold beauty of the soul? The soul has, first, a created beauty, effected by the splendor of grace, that clothes and surrounds it and covers it with the precious, golden robe of all the supernatural and divine virtues. Again, the soul is doubly beautiful, having also an uncreated beauty, that of the Holy Spirit, who has erected His throne within it. For as the royal palace must first be splendidly furnished to receive the king in a becoming manner, but receives its greatest ornament in the king himself, so the Holy Ghost first forms our soul into a magnificent and glorious temple and then confers upon it its highest adornment and most excellent glory by dwelling personally in it.

The soul adorned with grace is but a golden setting in which the most precious jewel, the Holy Ghost, God Himself, is enclosed. As in a ring, the gold is distinct from the jewel, and yet they are so closely united that they form but one whole and one beauty, so likewise the Divinity is distinct from the just soul, but is so intimately united with it through love that the beauty of both appears to be one and the same.

The same adorable truth was revealed by our Savior Himself to St. Teresa by another beautiful image. He showed her the soul as a crystal globe that was not merely illuminated from without by the divine sun of grace, but bore this sun in its center. From this center the sun filled with divine splendor the different parts of the globe, representing the different faculties of the daughter and bride of God: “All the glory of the king’s daughter is within.” (Ps. 44:14)

If God then considers the beauty and loveliness of your soul with such delight, ought not you, Christian soul, gladly conform your judgment to that of the highest and infallible Judge of art, even though that beauty be invisible to you? Do you dare to esteem any other beauty, compare it, or even prefer it to this?

Compare, then, this beauty of grace with all others that delight you. In this way you will see (by) how much grace surpasses all these. For all that you admire in every other beauty is found here in a far higher degree and without any imperfection.

Lifeless things please you by reason of their exterior perfections, by the harmonious composition of their parts, by their pleasing colors and the splendor with which they are decorated. Grace, however, effects a heavenly harmony among the faculties of your soul, sheds over it a divine luster, and glorifies it with eternal and imperishable beauty. More beautiful than lifeless objects are living things. Their beauty is in their inner perfections, the bloom of their youth, their manifold activity, the fullness of their vital power. But there is a higher, a purer, a more perfect life—that of the soul through grace—a life that never grows old but is always being rejuvenated, a life that ever brings forth heavenly blossoms and diffuses the fragrance of divine bliss.

Every unspoiled heart is delighted by the beauty of virtue, purity of heart, the order of the moral law actually realized in the soul. But all these receive a far higher splendor through grace, by which the Holy Ghost Himself impresses on our soul the law of God, unites it most intimately with the archetype of all justice, adorns it with the supernatural and divine virtues and invests it with justice and the true sanctity of the Son of God.

Grace, accordingly, as the image of the Divine Nature, gives to the soul a truly heavenly beauty, because it is a sharing of the Divine Nature, that is, an outflowing of its holiness. The Holy Ghost, who wishes to dwell in the soul, cannot choose a dwelling that is unworthy of His majesty. If Heaven is hardly sufficient for Him, therefore, how much less worthy of a human soul! He must adorn the soul in such a way that it may become at least an earthly image of Heaven.

Here we may get a glance of the awful disorder that sin causes in us by robbing us of grace. Sin places itself as a dark storm cloud between the divine Sun and the soul, and in a moment the splendor of its heavenly beauty if extinct, the supernatural life is killed, the virtues are destroyed and the splendid robe of the children of God is tattered. From a fragrant and lovely garden of God, the soul is transformed into an abominable and pestilential abyss, where reptiles, serpents and the hellish dragon himself dwell. From an image of the lovable God you are made of an image of Hell and of the devil.

The devil is so hideous that Our Lord told St. Bridget that, if she could see him in his deformity, she would either sink lifeless to the ground, or if she did not die, she would experience unspeakable pain. Into such a monster is one changed by sin, who in grace had shone as a mirror of divine glory.

Your soul is disfigured in the same way when sin drives out the divine Sun. This also was shown to St. Teresa by the above-mentioned image of the crystal globe, for after Christ had withdrawn Himself from its center, there remained nothing but frightful darkness. Who would not be frightened by the thought of that eternal night, of that incomprehensible hate, of the deformation of the once so beautiful features, all of which can be caused by one sin! And who should not tremble at the thought of how little is necessary to destroy so delicate a beauty lent to you by God and beware not only of its loss but of the least stain that might disfigure it.

What pains and time, what expense does one undergo to keep or increase the perishable beauty of the body? Hours are not enough; one uses days; one uses days and anxious care to put the hair or some piece of clothing in order and to add grace and dignity to the deportment of the body.

And should one hour be too much for us to put the soul in order? Should we be unwilling to bestow upon the beauty of soul, which secures for us the friendship of God and Heaven, that care which we bestow on the hair or dress?

The world hopes by such trifles to gain the empty admiration of men. We know, on the other hand, from God Himself, that every—even the least—effort we make in preserving the purity or enhancing the beauty of the heavenly figure of our soul secures for us a greater measure of His love. In The Canticle of Canticles He says: “Thou has wounded my heart, my sister, my spouse, thou has wounded my heart with one of thy eyes, and with one hair of thy neck.” (Cant. 4:9).

Every glance toward God, every virtuous act performed in grace and every sigh of the soul that loves God, even though so light as a hair, becomes an arrow that wounds, not the unstable heart of man, but the eternal and constant heart of God. Every step that you take in the pathway of grace is so beautiful and lovely that God, beholding you, exclaims: “How beautiful are thy steps in shoes, O prince’s daughter!” (Cant. 7:1). Every word that you address to God is so dear and precious that it brings down upon you His richest blessing, as the Psalmist sings: “Grace is poured abroad in thy lips; therefore hath God blessed thee forever.” (Ps. 44:3).

Nothing in the beloved is insignificant to the lover; nothing in the beloved soul is insignificant to the loving God. Here each and every thing is great because it gains God’s love for us. What amotive for us to gain the love of God!

(From The Glories of Divine Grace by Fr. Matthias J. Scheeben (1835-1888), translated from German by Fr. Patrick Shaughnessay, O.S.B
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This is the only way God can be in us. Every time I read about God's grace, "sanctifying grace"...our being in the "state of grace" I desire to go to Confession, no matter how hard it is to do. No one likes to go to Confession. If you are a non-Catholic Christian, you have to, from your heart examine your conscience, confess your sins to God.

I've never read it completely, just heard or read a few of the verses. Father Scheeben's writing makes me want to read the Old Testament book, Canticle of Canticles.

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So sorry, I couldn't fit this beautiful quote into the
thread title.


"How great this beauty is and of what kind—that no mortal can express or understand. If the natural beauty of a great and noble soul surpasses all corporeal beauty, how much more true is this of the supernatural beauty that is had through grace?"
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1.
CATECHISM (610-611, 621, 1339)
The Last Supper was a real sacrifice in which Christ's blood was poured out for our sins in the cup.
BIBLE (1 Peter 2:24)
The Last Supper was a Passover meal. Christ's blood was poured out for our sins at the cross.

2.
CATECHISM (1373-1377)
The bread and wine become the real body and blood of Christ.
BIBLE (1 Corinthians 11:23-25)
The bread and wine are symbols of the body and blood of Christ.

3.
CATECHISM (1374, 1377)
Christ's body and blood exist wholly and entirely in every fragment of consecrated bread and wine in every Roman Catholic church around the world.
BIBLE (Hebrews 10:12,13)
Christ is bodily present in heaven.

4.
CATECHISM (1392, 1405, 1419)
The consecrated bread and wine are heavenly food which help one to attain to eternal life.
BIBLE (Luke 22:19)
The bread and wine are symbols which help one to remember Christ.

5.
CATECHISM (1378-1381)
God desires that consecrated bread and wine be worshiped as divine.
BIBLE (Exodus 20:4,5; Isaiah 42:8)
God forbids the worship of any object, even those intended to represent Him.

6.
CATECHISM (1142, 1547, 1577)
Christ has ordained certain men to a ministerial priesthood to perpetuate the sacrifice of the cross.
BIBLE (1Peter 2:5-10; Hebrews 13:15; Romans 12:1)
Christ has ordained every believer to a holy and royal priesthood to offer spiritual sacrifices, the praise of their lips, and lives yielded to God.

7.
CATECHISM (1085,1365-1367)
The Sacrifice of the Mass is the sacrifice of the cross. Only the manner in which it is offered is different.
BIBLE (Mark 15:21-41)
The sacrifice of the cross is a historical event. It occurred once, approximately 2000 years ago, outside Jerusalem.

8.
CATECHISM (1323, 1382)
The sacrifice of the cross is perpetuated in the Sacrifice of the Mass.
BIBLE (John 19:30)
The sacrifice of the cross is finished.

9.
CATECHISM (1353, 1362, 1364, 1367, 1409)
The Mass makes Christ present in His death and victimhood.
BIBLE (Revelation 1:17,18; Romans 6:9,10)
Christ cannot be made present in His death and victimhood, for He has risen and is alive forevermore.

10.
CATECHISM (1354, 1357)
At each Mass, the priest re-presents to the Father the sacrifice of Christ.
BIBLE (Hebrews 9:24-28)
Christ presented the sacrifice of Himself to the Father once at the consummation of the ages.

11.
CATECHISM (1367, 1371, 1414)
The Mass is an unbloody sacrifice which atones for the sins of the living and the dead.
BIBLE (Leviticus 17:11, Hebrews 9:22)
Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.

12.
CATECHISM (1371, 1414)
Each Sacrifice of the Mass appeases God's wrath against sin.
BIBLE (Hebrews 10:12-18)
The once-for-all sacrifice of the cross fully appeased God's wrath against sin.

13.
CATECHISM (1366, 1407)
The faithful receive the benefits of the cross in fullest measure through the Sacrifice of the Mass.
BIBLE (Ephesians 1:3-14)
Believers receive the benefits of the cross in fullest measure in Christ through faith.

14.
CATECHISM (1364, 1405, 1846)
The sacrificial work of redemption is continually carried out through the Sacrifice of the Mass.
BIBLE (Ephesians 1:7; Hebrews 1:3)
The sacrificial work of redemption was finished when Christ gave His life for us on the cross.

15.
CATECHISM (1323, 1382, 1405, 1407)
The Church is to continue the sacrifice of Christ for the salvation of the world.
BIBLE (1 Corinthians 11:26)
The church is to proclaim the Lord's death for the salvation of the world.

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1.
CATECHISM (610-611, 621, 1339)
The Last Supper was a real sacrifice in which Christ's blood was poured out for our sins in the cup.

BIBLE (1 Peter 2:24)
The Last Supper was a Passover meal. Christ's blood was poured out for our sins at the cross.

2.
CATECHISM (1373-1377)
The bread and wine become the real body and blood of Christ.
BIBLE (1 Corinthians 11:23-25)
The bread and wine are symbols of the body and blood of Christ.

3.
CATECHISM (1374, 1377)
Christ's body and blood exist wholly and entirely in every fragment of consecrated bread and wine in every Roman Catholic church around the world.
BIBLE (Hebrews 10:12,13)
Christ is bodily present in heaven.

4.
CATECHISM (1392, 1405, 1419)
The consecrated bread and wine are heavenly food which help one to attain to eternal life.
BIBLE (Luke 22:19)
The bread and wine are symbols which help one to remember Christ.

5.
CATECHISM (1378-1381)
God desires that consecrated bread and wine be worshiped as divine.
BIBLE (Exodus 20:4,5; Isaiah 42:8)
God forbids the worship of any object, even those intended to represent Him.

6.
CATECHISM (1142, 1547, 1577)
Christ has ordained certain men to a ministerial priesthood to perpetuate the sacrifice of the cross.
BIBLE (1Peter 2:5-10; Hebrews 13:15; Romans 12:1)
Christ has ordained every believer to a holy and royal priesthood to offer spiritual sacrifices, the praise of their lips, and lives yielded to God.

7.
CATECHISM (1085,1365-1367)
The Sacrifice of the Mass is the sacrifice of the cross. Only the manner in which it is offered is different.
BIBLE (Mark 15:21-41)
The sacrifice of the cross is a historical event. It occurred once, approximately 2000 years ago, outside Jerusalem....

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Deborah,

Hi, I only want to convince you the Holy Eucharist is true.

Protestants follow a man, Martin Luther(not God) who in the 16th century denied the Holy Eucharist. I thought giving an example of an Apostle, Paul's words in Scripture -1Cor 11:26-29- proves Paul's belief in Jesus' words, the Catholic
teaching since 33 A.D.

I can reply to the list. The first sentence (in-bold) didn't sound like Catholic teaching, how could it come from the Catechism? I checked, it doesn't. It comes from a book by an Evangelical anti-Catholic named James McCarthy. They are HIS words. The Book is entitled ~

Roman Catholicism, What You need to Know About Salvation which lists:

62 Prime Errors of Roman Catholicism (LOL)

The Last Supper was a real sacrifice in which Christ's blood was poured out for our sins in the cup.


Mr. McCarthy's first sentence is #25 in the list of 62. I was right, they are not from Catechism. I'll post the true paragraphs he listed.

This is why people should ask a Catholic and read Catholic writings (books by and about the saints), the Catholic Bible (www.drbo.org), the actual Catechism of the Catholic Church (online). I wondered now about Mr McCarthy. I did a search, James McCarthy has written other anti-Catholic books. And seems the case often, McCarthy is a fallen away Catholic. A former Protestant minister who knows McCarthy shared:


Catholic apologist Robert Sungenis:


"If you think I am being too hard on anti-Catholic Protestants, read on. In May 1995, I attempted to schedule a debate with another anti-Catholic Evangelical, James G. McCarthy. In 1995 he published The Gospel According to Rome, a 400-page book in which he purports to list all the Catholic abuses of Scripture. I know Jim well. We attended the same Fundamentalist church before I became Catholic in 1992. Jim spent two hours in my living room trying to convince me not to convert. The issue we discussed was sola scriptura. Frustrated that he couldn't find one clear verse in the Bible to support his contention, he left in a huff. We corresponded for a few months until he told me that such discussions were, to use his own words, "a waste of time."

Perhaps a little background may help to understand Jim's negative reaction. In the course of our exchange of letters, I and a few of my friends had exposed a blatant misrepresentation in his best-selling video, Catholicism: Crisis of Faith, produced in 1992. In the video, McCarthy displays a picture of a woman nailed to a cross. The commentator claims that this picture proves that the Catholic Church considers Mary a savior just like Jesus.

We wrote to the bishop of the South American diocese where this image is found. The bishop told us that it was merely a memorial to a woman who was martyred for her faith. The image is located in an obscure alcove of the church. The woman had converted to Catholicism against her husband's wishes, and he decided to repay her for such defiance by nailing her to a cross.

We sent the bishop's letter to McCarthy, and, to his credit, he promptly removed that portion from his original video, I'm sure at considerable expense. But he replaced it with another cross that supposedly has Mary on it. I am told that there are only one or two such crosses in the whole world. Leave it to a virulent ex-Catholic like Jim McCarthy to find it and make a silly case that Catholics worship Mary as a Savior.

Be that as it may, I figured that, since McCarthy was doing the radio circuit, promoting his new book and engaging callers in short debates, perhaps he would reconsider his previous refusal to debate. I wrote to him. A month or so later I received the letter back from the postman-unopened. As soon as he saw the return address McCarthy refused to open the envelope"...
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Catechism of the Catholic Church

610 Jesus gave the supreme expression of his free offering of himself at the meal shared with the twelve Apostles "on the night he was betrayed". On the eve of his Passion, while still free, Jesus transformed this Last Supper with the apostles into the memorial of his voluntary offering to the Father for the salvation of men: "This is my body which is given for you." "This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins."


611 The Eucharist that Christ institutes at that moment will be the memorial of his sacrifice. Jesus includes the apostles in his own offering and bids them perpetuate it. By doing so, the Lord institutes his apostles as priests of the New Covenant: "For their sakes I sanctify myself, so that they also may be sanctified in truth."


621 Jesus freely offered himself for our salvation. Beforehand, during the Last Supper, he both symbolized this offering and made it really present: "This is my body which is given for you" (Lk 22:19).


1339 Jesus chose the time of Passover to fulfill what he had announced at Capernaum: giving his disciples his Body and his Blood:

Then came the day of Unleavened Bread, on which the passover lamb had to be sacrificed. So Jesus sent Peter and John, saying, "Go and prepare the passover meal for us, that we may eat it. . . ." They went . . . and prepared the passover. And when the hour came, he sat at table, and the apostles with him. And he said to them, "I have earnestly desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer; for I tell you I shall not eat it again until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God.". . . . And he took bread, and when he had given thanks he broke it and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me." And likewise the cup after supper, saying, "This cup which is poured out for you is the New Covenant in my blood."
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This was a beautiful post, which I have bookmarked, to read over again... and again. To whomever took the time to present this, I thank you. It is indeed time to 'prepare the bride,' so to speak; the marriage of heaven and earth (the re-joining of our own selves to our Father and home) is soon coming. The full implications of this are... truly inspiring, aren't they? I thank you again.
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This was a beautiful post, which I have bookmarked, to read over again... and again. To whomever took the time to present this, I thank you. It is indeed time to 'prepare the bride,' so to speak; the marriage of heaven and earth (the re-joining of our own selves to our Father and home) is soon coming. The full implications of this are... truly inspiring, aren't they? I thank you again.
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You are welcome, your words are making Him smile.

Father Matthias Scheeben speaks in a way about the faith
that makes you wish to be faithful. I know of four of
his books. I've read one, The Glories of Divine Grace.

Father Scheeben is from Germany (1835 - 1888). I started
another thread at GLP with some of his quotes.


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Here is an example from a commentary on Scheeben's writings. The quotes are from his book entitled Nature and Grace.

One notices, Father Scheeben speaks of God's grace, it seems to me to be His theme, he writes about it so often.

In my words, to have an understanding of who God is we have
to have His grace in us, His light. It's known as sanctifying grace. It is the greatest gift. And once we have it, we can sadly lose it by one mortal sin. The remedy
is Confession, confession, confession. It is the only way get it back, that God can return to our soul.

Below, the subject is faith, don't you think and with the commentary too, Father Scheeben is saying ask God for the gift of faith, it is a start.

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The notion that Scheeben here seizes in the text of St. John is the profoundly mysterious one of the lumen gloriae as the instrument, so to speak, of our second generation: the knowledge of God is a transforming power whereby we are made over into His image; we become like to Him because we see Him as He is(22).

And this same notion serves him in his development of the imperfect stage of our sonship. Here for the light of faith is claimed a function parallel to that of the light of glory, this time however in dependence rather on St. Paul:

Before however it is revealed what we shall be, before the image of our Heavenly Father is engendered in us in its full and complete splendor, and Christ our Life appears, our life is hidden with Christ in God. But nevertheless we do live, and we do bear His image in us; and we are consequently born of God. For the Savior says that He has
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already revealed to us in a way the name of the Father; by faith, says the Apostle, Christ already dwells in our hearts. Faith itself is indeed a light, sunk by the Father of Light in our souls, a dark and hidden light to be sure, but a light that in truth streams just as directly from the source of Eternal Light as the clear beatific vision of God in His Word; faith also is a participation in the knowledge of the Eternal Word. By faith also we already know God as our Father, and we are for this very reason already born of Him by faith, as children in His image. For dark though it be, still the knowledge of faith fills our souls with such a light and splendor that even now we are transformed by it into the image of the Lord, since by faith we are already ‘light in the Lord’ (Eph. 5, 8), Who has called us out of darkness into His marvelous light. Of faith too is to be understood the word of the Apostle: ‘But we all with faces unveiled (that is, not covered with a veil, as if we knew God only through creatures, as a poor mirror) beholding the glory of the Lord, are transformed into the same image from glory to glory, as by the Spirit of the Lord’(23). {Italics mine}

And the conclusion is:

Thus we have by the light of faith an anticipation of the glory and the life which we as co-heirs of the Son are to receive as our heritage in the vision of our Father. And as it is by this heritage that we become in fullest measure children of God, so also our first generation communicates to us with the life of the children of God likewise a pledge of our inheritance(24).

[p. 73]

The line of thought hitherto followed may be briefly stated thus: by the grace of our adoption we are destined and admitted to a share in the life of the Father that is by nature accorded only to the Son: this share in the life of the Father consists above all in a share in His own knowledge of Himself, or rather, a share in His Son’s knowledge of Him; to know the Father as He is in Himself (i.e. as Father) is the proper life of the Son, Who is His image; we therefore, born of the Father in the image of His Son, are gifted too with His heritage, the knowledge of the Father. However in the achievement of our supernatural destiny, in our transformation into the image of the Father, two stages are divinely appointed: the perfect stage of vision and the imperfect stage of faith. Nevertheless, for all their differences, both faith and vision are genuine participations in that knowledge of God which is the natural privilege of His Divine Son; both faith and vision are a share in the divine light, which illumines the God-head as such. Since they are such, their effect is to transform us into the image of the Father of Light. It is this last point which is capital. Scheeben puts it definitely, though in his favorite metaphorical terms, when he says:

By faith, as the divine light is us, begins our kinship with the Father of Light. For since the divine nature is the purest light, we achieve kin-ship with it in that we ourselves become light. And so faith, even without love, is still the beginning of our divine filiation, since by it we bear in ourselves the image of the Lord
(25).

And elsewhere:

We become like to God, the Father of Light, in that he kindles in us a light like unto His own.

[p. 74]

our likeness to the Father consists precisely in this, that He communicates to us a divine power of knowing; by it we know the divine essence, we reflect and imprint it upon ourselves truly after the fashion of His only-begotten Son Who proceeds from Him as His Word and His reflection; and thus we receive the divine image into ourselves, and so become conformed to the image of His Son (Rom. 8, 29)(26).
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This was a beautiful post, which I have bookmarked, to read over again... and again. To whomever took the time to present this, I thank you. It is indeed time to 'prepare the bride,' so to speak; the marriage of heaven and earth (the re-joining of our own selves to our Father and home) is soon coming. The full implications of this are... truly inspiring, aren't they? I thank you again.


You are welcome, your words are making Him smile.

Father Matthias Scheeben speaks in a way about the faith
that makes you wish to be faithful. I know of four of
his books. I've read one, The Glories of Divine Grace.

Father Scheeben is from Germany (1835 - 1888). I started
another thread at GLP with some of his quotes.


Thread: You know you are a good writer when you can take a subject and shine a new light on it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 998268

Gosh, I hope he's smiling again... goodness knows I've probably been an equally significant source of His consternation over the years.
"I take up MY cross, and follow no man..."


A novus universitas,- vacuus vestri chaos. (A new world,- without your chaos.)
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Re: If the natural beauty of a great and noble soul surpasses all corporeal beauty, how much more true is this of the supernatural beauty that is had thro
Here is an example from a commentary on Scheeben's writings. The quotes are from his book entitled Nature and Grace.

One notices, Father Scheeben speaks of God's grace, it seems to me to be His theme, he writes about it so often.

In my words, to have an understanding of who God is we have
to have His grace in us, His light. It's known as sanctifying grace. It is the greatest gift. And once we have it, we can sadly lose it by one mortal sin. The remedy
is Confession, confession, confession. It is the only way get it back, that God can return to our soul.

Below, the subject is faith, don't you think and with the commentary too, Father Scheeben is saying ask God for the gift of faith, it is a start.

+++ +++ +++


The notion that Scheeben here seizes in the text of St. John is the profoundly mysterious one of the lumen gloriae as the instrument, so to speak, of our second generation: the knowledge of God is a transforming power whereby we are made over into His image; we become like to Him because we see Him as He is(22).

And this same notion serves him in his development of the imperfect stage of our sonship. Here for the light of faith is claimed a function parallel to that of the light of glory, this time however in dependence rather on St. Paul:

Before however it is revealed what we shall be, before the image of our Heavenly Father is engendered in us in its full and complete splendor, and Christ our Life appears, our life is hidden with Christ in God. But nevertheless we do live, and we do bear His image in us; and we are consequently born of God. For the Savior says that He has
[p. 72]

already revealed to us in a way the name of the Father; by faith, says the Apostle, Christ already dwells in our hearts. Faith itself is indeed a light, sunk by the Father of Light in our souls, a dark and hidden light to be sure, but a light that in truth streams just as directly from the source of Eternal Light as the clear beatific vision of God in His Word; faith also is a participation in the knowledge of the Eternal Word. By faith also we already know God as our Father, and we are for this very reason already born of Him by faith, as children in His image. For dark though it be, still the knowledge of faith fills our souls with such a light and splendor that even now we are transformed by it into the image of the Lord, since by faith we are already ‘light in the Lord’ (Eph. 5, 8), Who has called us out of darkness into His marvelous light. Of faith too is to be understood the word of the Apostle: ‘But we all with faces unveiled (that is, not covered with a veil, as if we knew God only through creatures, as a poor mirror) beholding the glory of the Lord, are transformed into the same image from glory to glory, as by the Spirit of the Lord’(23). {Italics mine}

And the conclusion is:

Thus we have by the light of faith an anticipation of the glory and the life which we as co-heirs of the Son are to receive as our heritage in the vision of our Father. And as it is by this heritage that we become in fullest measure children of God, so also our first generation communicates to us with the life of the children of God likewise a pledge of our inheritance(24).

[p. 73]

The line of thought hitherto followed may be briefly stated thus: by the grace of our adoption we are destined and admitted to a share in the life of the Father that is by nature accorded only to the Son: this share in the life of the Father consists above all in a share in His own knowledge of Himself, or rather, a share in His Son’s knowledge of Him; to know the Father as He is in Himself (i.e. as Father) is the proper life of the Son, Who is His image; we therefore, born of the Father in the image of His Son, are gifted too with His heritage, the knowledge of the Father. However in the achievement of our supernatural destiny, in our transformation into the image of the Father, two stages are divinely appointed: the perfect stage of vision and the imperfect stage of faith. Nevertheless, for all their differences, both faith and vision are genuine participations in that knowledge of God which is the natural privilege of His Divine Son; both faith and vision are a share in the divine light, which illumines the God-head as such. Since they are such, their effect is to transform us into the image of the Father of Light. It is this last point which is capital. Scheeben puts it definitely, though in his favorite metaphorical terms, when he says:

By faith, as the divine light is us, begins our kinship with the Father of Light. For since the divine nature is the purest light, we achieve kin-ship with it in that we ourselves become light. And so faith, even without love, is still the beginning of our divine filiation, since by it we bear in ourselves the image of the Lord
(25).

And elsewhere:

We become like to God, the Father of Light, in that he kindles in us a light like unto His own.

[p. 74]

our likeness to the Father consists precisely in this, that He communicates to us a divine power of knowing; by it we know the divine essence, we reflect and imprint it upon ourselves truly after the fashion of His only-begotten Son Who proceeds from Him as His Word and His reflection; and thus we receive the divine image into ourselves, and so become conformed to the image of His Son (Rom. 8, 29)(26).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 998268

I have now been twice-blessed by your unseen hand... certainly, this particular subject has been on my mind for the most of the day today, and so it is (again) rather 'serendipitous' that I should happen to find your post this evening.

Oh, faith... I can tell you that if my middle name isn't 'Faith' already, it very well should be; I have traded on it fairly heavily,- to the point that it should be, by now, not even second-nature. And yet, today, this evening, faith was beginning to seem rather 'tired.' I needed this, more than you know. And I thank you, yet again.

On your good advice, then, I will wait for 'joy in the morning.' To that better day...
"I take up MY cross, and follow no man..."


A novus universitas,- vacuus vestri chaos. (A new world,- without your chaos.)





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