A Big "Thank You" to mockers from a Christian

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"So we deserve it because we are not perfect? lol.

Hey nobody is perfect, but punishing a kid who stole candy with life in prison is immoral."




You seem to have the reasoning ability of an average 5 year old. I assure you, you will not be punished for merely stealing a candy bar, but for treading the Son of God underfoot, denying the Holy Spirit, and a lifetime of unrepentant sin.

The penalty for willfully breaking Gods commandments is death.

Again... Not a threat. I have no need (or ability) to threaten. But a duty to warn.



"Again the word of the LORD came to me, saying, Son of man, speak to the children of your people, and say to them, When I bring the sword on a land, if the people of the land take a man of their coasts, and set him for their watchman: If when he sees the sword come on the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people; He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be on him. But he that takes warning shall deliver his soul. But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand. So you, O son of man, I have set you a watchman to the house of Israel; therefore you shall hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me. When I say to the wicked, O wicked man, you shall surely die; if you do not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at your hand. Therefore, O you son of man, speak to the house of Israel; Thus you speak, saying, If our transgressions and our sins be on us, and we pine away in them, how should we then live? Say to them, As I live, said the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn you, turn you from your evil ways; for why will you die, O house of Israel?

Therefore, you son of man, say to the children of your people, The righteousness of the righteous shall not deliver him in the day of his transgression: as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall thereby in the day that he turns from his wickedness; neither shall the righteous be able to live for his righteousness in the day that he sins. When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he has committed, he shall die for it. Again, when I say to the wicked, You shall surely die; if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right; the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die. None of his sins that he has committed shall be mentioned to him: he has done that which is lawful and right; he shall surely live.

Yet the children of your people say, The way of the Lord is not equal: but as for them, their way is not equal. When the righteous turns from his righteousness, and commits iniquity, he shall even die thereby. But if the wicked turn from his wickedness, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall live thereby. Yet you say, The way of the Lord is not equal. O you house of Israel, I will judge you every one after his ways." Ezekiel 33:1-20










"Blow the trumpet in Zion; sound the alarm on my holy hill. Let all who live in the land tremble, for the day of the LORD is coming. It is close at hand...

...Fire burns in front of them, and flames follow after them. Ahead of them the land lies as beautiful as the Garden of Eden. Behind them is nothing but desolation; not one thing escapes." Joel 2:1 & 2:3

1 Corinthians 15:19

Lol ... I'm not telling you to do or not do anything. That's between you and your Elohim. It's not my place to judge or persuade you. When I was an atheist (just a short 9 days ago) I never tried to take people's belief away from them. As a "convert" I will never be one of these proselytizing zealots that drive more people away than they "save".

That's not my calling.

But I still would like to retort ... since the name doesn't matter, why not just call Him "Satan"?

I mean, it's just a name, right?

Lol ... I've been on a thread or two with this dude before, while I was still an atheist. If memory serves me, he came at me from the other side of the thing then.

He's actually very entertaining if you don't let him get under your skin.

Let him make it, he's not a bad dude, he's just bored. :D

There may be arguably more in not naming...

Hmm the only place that I can find that says this is the bible...that must make it true!!

And you don't know how to put two and two together?

Someone who lived 20 years of life and then died without believing in christ, is not crime enough to be tortured forever.

Have you died, and verified this is true? No...you know just as much as the rest of us do lol.

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"Haven't met him. Just wanted clarification on his internal situation, since you seem to be the one who knows. Unless of course you're assuming the worst about him with zero evidence."



Again, a demonic attempt at total distortion of the facts.

And "zero evidence"? I have all the evidence I need. The bible makes it clear that there is not ONE without sin. No, not even ONE, other than the Lamb of God.

It's far easier to believe the Holy Scriptures and the Messiah, than to believe in the words of an internet fool with a long history of posting very foolish statements.

You act so smug and sure of yourself, forgetting that there are PLENTY of people here, including myself, that are VERY familiar with your posting history.

398: I do not need to know your real name. Have I given my life to you?.....no.


Have I given myself to Christ.......yes.......regardless of what name you wish to give Him.

Why do you believe in the bible as the word of god...simple question.

I never said the Name doesn't matter.

All of your names matter, yes?

All of His Names matter, too. They all have meaning.

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"Hmm the only place that I can find that says this is the bible...that must make it true!!

And you don't know how to put two and two together?

Someone who lived 20 years of life and then died without believing in christ, is not crime enough to be tortured forever.

Have you died, and verified this is true? No...you know just as much as the rest of us do lol."





Well, my job is done. You cannot convince a fool that they are, indeed, a fool. I shake the dust from my feet, and move on to those with ears to hear. I leave you, and your 3rd grade mentality, to your truth-hating peers.





"Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of your words." Proverbs 23:9

Please, clarify your point.

I have no problem believing that Mann is imperfect as we all are. The idea that he's never repented, or is even some kind of wanton savage is just not implied in any of his posts. Try affording people some slack instead of throwing accusations of how wicked they are.




OMG - You mean people actually remember all those times I tried to reason with God's chosen holy christian saints to pull their heads out and act like decent people? CRAP!

If you paid any money for this information you are due a refund. The Book of Enoch was in line for being part of the Bible but it was just too big and it only had one chapter about the coming of the Son of Man. Rather than not reject some of the info Enoch has they inserted Jude to explain about fallen angels back before the flood. Peter verifies everything Jude covers.

These two verses are locked together and the 10,000 Saints are Holy Angels, if you disagree provide the verse that would be it's equal prior to Mose's death.

Jude.1:14
And Enoch also,
the seventh from Adam,
prophesied of these,
saying,
Behold,
the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

De.33:2
And he said,
The LORD came from Sinai,
and rose up from Seir unto them;
he shined forth from mount Paran,
and he came with ten thousands of saints:
from his right hand went a fiery law for them.

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LOL...cmon man you can't get mad and throw a bitch fit when people don't ask the questions you want, or give parroted answers to satisfy. You are the definition of blind faith and closed mindedness.

good night clown lol.

so what convinced you? are you serious this time?

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Touchy touchy.

By the way, the word "Christ" comes from Krishna, another deity. What's more, in Hellenized Greece, EVERY deity was called Christ.

Like I said earlier maybe to you, maybe to someone else ... I get you pissed off ACs confused because I don't give enough of a shit about you to bother looking at a number until you actually engage me in interesting conversaion and make yourself memorable enough for me to bother.

Like I said earlier, I'm not going to try to change your mind, I'm not going to try to alter your beliefs.

However, if I didn't share what knowledge I pick up then I'm doing something wrong. What you choose to do with knowledge is totally up to you.

Worship whatever deity you want. That's between you and your Elohim.

It goes a bit beyond stealing candy.....however we ourselves might view our indiscretions.



"Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And the Lord was SORRY that He had made man on the earth, and He was GRIEVED in His heart.

"So the Lord said, 'I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, FOR I AM SORRY THAT I HAVE MADE THEM."


"But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord."


So....because God was pleased with this one man.....we are here now......many to complain about God.

No offense, but that's not your concern. Just know this, I don't make uneducated decisions without either empirical or personal evidence.

I'll leave it at that.

Troll on, Jedi! :D

Okay, let's talk about Eternal Torture.

I want you to think of the times when you are dreaming. Sometimes, you can have a very vivid dream in a short period of real time that seems to last for days. It's like time stands still. You wake up and it feels like you've been gone for weeks. You're disoriented, confused it feels like you've been gone so long.

Something happens to the brain's perception of time when we are unconcious.

Now understand that this process is partly due to DMT...the same chemical that gets released into your brain as you're dying.

Think about the final second before your last moment of brain activity. You'd be in a dream state that would, effectively, seem like an eternity in your mind.

Within that eternity, you are confined to a universe of your own imagination. If in that universe you retain guilt, remorse, fear..you may find yourself surrounded by manifestations of it. It could become nightmarish and unpleasant.

On the other hand, if you've simply believed that you are redeemed by your faith in a principal that promises good things, and forgiveness of "sins" that your final little universe will be pleasant well...

Perhaps that's all there is to it? The Theif on the cross next to Jesus believed in the last moments of his life, and Jesus told him he'd see him in Heaven that very day. The theif had goodness in his heart, good enough to put his faith in a man dying next to him.

So, you want to mock or you do you have a good heart? How do you want to spend your eternity, be it a literal one or a DMT trip you have as you die?

Didn't Jesus and his followers tell everyone that the end times were at hand and that it would happen within their lifetimes?

oh.. ok I edited my post... btw..this thread is moving fast. lol

I think you made the right decision imo

13:If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised.

18:Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost. 19:If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are to be pitied more than all men.



20But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. 22For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. 24Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26The last enemy to be destroyed is death.

(Not to start another rowdy tangent, but Noah was found to be "gentically undefiled", and it's suggested in some circles that the bloodline of the rest of earth's inhabitants had been compromised by the nephilim, meaning the world was populated by half-man/half-fallen angel mutants.)

Actually His son is the one a person should be concerned about impressing.

Proverb.30:4
Who hath ascended up into heaven,
or descended?
who hath gathered the wind in his fists?
who hath bound the waters in a garment?
who hath established all the ends of the earth?
what is his name,
and what is his son's name,
if thou canst tell?

There's another major tangent we could pursue :)
The idea that Jesus told people standing right in front of Him all this stuff that applied not to them, but solely to us 2000 years later is almost absurd. He plainly said "Some of you standing here will not pass away until you see the kingdom come".

BUT. . .to mainstream tither-friendly christianity, legit questions like this D.O..N.O.T..C.O.M.P.U.T.E, so they're ignored or ridiculed.

Hmm...maybe that's why we have so many different NDEs?

That also means God only interfered at the last possible moment. If Noah had dies Jesus could not have been born. If the world ever gets to that state again God would have to interfere again. Revelation can be done fully with a cast of about 500,000 people, just in case anybody was wanting to try and hurry Him up any.