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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One moment please! If all of these "red Staters" and religious folk voted for Bush, and by simple extension his false war over WMD’s in Iraq…. What’s the problem? They should put out a call to these people and ask them to serve! THEY VOLENTEERED WITH THEIR VOTES! It is a simple call to action for his supporters… In fact, they should not have to be asked! |
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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | """If all of these "red Staters" and religious folk voted for Bush, and by simple extension his false war over WMD’s in Iraq…. What’s the problem? """ The problem is that the Children didnt VOTE for anyone. The primary goal of a recruiter is to MEET his QUOTA of new recruits, NOT to have young people fully examine their options and make the best choice for their future. Recruiters are salespeople, not guidance counselors, and should be treated as such. |
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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 595 Please dont stamp me with your litle words here. I was born with an ideologie, untill politics decided that i was a definite person, who beleives in a system that they created. Capitalism, communism, atheiste is the same thing to me. I dont need books t tell me how i fell about predicaments. |
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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PRETTY COOL ARTICLE---PART OF HERE Ron Kovic exposed the horrible conditions of the VA hospitals during the Vietnam era in his book, Born on the Fourth of July. As a wounded Vietnam veteran, Kovic was outraged at the outdated equipment, under-qualified and uncaring staffs and the unsanitary conditions that disabled veterans were forced to endure. Therefore, not much has changed since 1970s, and any hope of future change is diminished by dubya´s slashing of the VA´s healthcare budget by 275 million dollars in 2002, and further cuts all around to the VA. OF COURSE, recruiters never mention this in their DECEIT-filled speeches about the benefits of the military, which is why more veterans need to speak to high school students and parents about the realities of military life. Although the lies are bad enough, interactions with recruiters can be hazardous to one´s health. One poolee (person waiting to go to boot camp who has already enlisted) wrote me that my first essay had helped him to decide to leave the Marines. The recruiter lied to the poolee by saying that it was too late, that he had already enlisted and therefore he was obligated for the next four years. During my recruiting days, I learned that any poolee can get OUT before boot camp, and after several more e-mails, the poolee told me that he had finally received his discharge after pushing the matter a little more. His recruiter responded to him with a physical threat by saying, "If I was in front of you right now I´d KNOCK YOU OUT." Great example of the quality of leadership instilled by military service. My recruiter in 1994 was a Marine sniper who had served in El Salvador and Somalia among other places. He actually admitted to me with excitement that he had killed non-combatants in Somalia with a .50 caliber sniper rifle, a weapon only to be used on vehicles, and that he had taken pictures of his victims afterward. His story was semi-confirmed for me seven years later, once I read Scott Peterson´s Me against my Brother. Peterson wrote, "the snipers killed more than 14 Somalis, some of them children who were found later to have a toy pistol, or nothing." UN spokesperson George Bennet later told Peterson, "They were shooting at anything by the time they left," and this statement only further confirms my recruiter´s story. Unfortunately, I too am guilty of following an unlawful order from that same recruiter, but of a much lesser magnitude. While assisting him for two weeks just after I graduated from boot camp, part of my job was to make poolees lose weight before they shipped out. One poolee was still twelve pounds overweight the day before boot camp, so naturally my recruiter ordered me to force the poolee to eat an ENTIRE BOX of Ex-lax, after which I had to make him do calisthenics until he lost the twelve pounds. Needless to say, he was admitted to boot camp the next day, but I am still ashamed that I made him do that. The business of recruiting is dark indeed. Recruiters now have even more access to the young minds of America, with the No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 and the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2002. These Acts require every high school receiving federal education funds to hand over the names, addresses, and phone numbers of every junior and senior to local recruiters upon request. That means that even 15 years olds, with no idea whatsoever about the real world, let alone the military, are now vulnerable to the manipulation and deception of recruiters in their own homes. If a school refuses to hand the information over, the Department of Defense steps in and pressures the school, after which federal funding may be withdrawn. According to Secretary of Education Rod Paige and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, the Acts give students more access to college, but we need to ask why it is that the government does not offer any alternative to the military for unskilled high school graduates that wish to go to college but are unqualified for college. Our COMMANDER in chief himself took the opportunity to join the military, then took a Bush prerogative and failed to return to his duty station for a year and a half. Of course, he did not have to serve the PRISON sentences that others who left for that long did. Nevertheless, it makes perfect sense. After all, the president is not any different from half of Americans, who support our impending war on Iraq. While over fifty( 50 _percent support an invasion, approximately ONE 1 percent serves in the military. Therefore, only 1 percent of us is willing to fight a battle that over 50 percent of us favor, which makes it much more palatable to start a war. As long as the majority NO DIRECT military consequences, I guess anything, including deceptive measures in recruiting, goes. Thus, the cycle of historical amnesia is allowed to continue, and future U.S. military action will surely bring about more 9/11s. Chris White is an ex-Marine infantryman with experience as a recruiter-assistant. He is currently working on his doctorate in history at the University of Kansas, Lawrence. He served from 1994-98, in Diego Garcia, Camp Pendleton, CA, Okinawa, Japan, and Doha, Qatar. He is also a member of Veterans for Peace. |
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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have got to tell this story. When I decided to goin the service in 1976 I first went to the Navy recruter, I filled out the form took my test and filled out the section, that said did tou ever use illegal drugs, Me being so nieve said yes I smoked marijuana and took acid, of course the Navy could not except this, they freaked, So I went next door and filled out the same paper work the same day in the Army recruters office and said no I never used drugs and I was in in two months. Oh I did have a ged, but before that I was a high school drop out and a marijuana and acid user. Go figure. I also was distinguest graduate out of my Ait school which was fort Gordon Georgia at Signal corp School. Also I was suad leader and made a first strip out of Basic. I had made Pfc by the time I went to Germany out of my school, I have many awards from the Army some signed by Colon Powell. I met him as he was my commander in Germany in the seventys. There more to tell alot more I could right a book. Go figure. Some day I will tell you how when I met Colin Powell I ende up in Some very big trouble. |
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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1467 ok I will tell a little more. Anyway thae year was 1979 Germany, a field exercise called Red vs Blue, its about a moch attack from The Soviets. I was heavy into selling hash at the time for all my Army buddies, I got a good conection from a guy that was getting out. Some shave tail Luetenit was out for some brownie points. I was selling my last chunk of hash to the Battalion commanders driver. I look back over my shoulder and see that girl seen me hand over the peice, thats what we called it back then a 20 dollar chunk of hash. well I had just sold my last piece and I figured I was safe from what ever may come of it, she couldnt really see what I hnded the guy so I went about my business. That evening CID, Central Intelegence Division for those who dont know what CID is. Well, anyway they paid me a visit that night.I had 2000 dollars and a film container with hash residue is all I had. They charged me with an article 15 to wit possesion of marijuana.Of course you all know that Hash id made from an Idica strain of cannabis. Well everyone was out of hash by that next day, I guess everyone smoked it all up to destroy the eveidence. More to come. |