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Secret gold swap has spooked the market
IT takes a lot to spook the solid old gold market. But when it emerged last week that one or more banks had lent 380 tonnes of gold to the Bank of International Settlements in return for foreign currencies, there was widespread surprise and confusion

By Garry White and Rowena Mason
Published: 6:10PM BST 11 Jul 2010

The news that a mystery bank has just pawned the family jewels gave traders a jolt – nervous about the sudden transfer of almost 20pc of the world's annual gold production and the possibility of a sell-off.

In a tiny footnote in its annual report, the bank disclosed its unusually large holding of gold, compared with nothing the year before. The disclosure was a large factor in the correction of the gold price this week, which fell below $1,200 for the first time in more than a month.

hinged on whether the BIS could potentially sell on this vast cache of bullion in the event of a default, flooding the market with liquidity. It appears to have raised $14bn for whoever's been doing the swapping – small fry on the currency markets, but serious liquidity in the gold market.

Denominated in euros, gold has fallen 8pc since the beginning of the month and is now trading at a seven-week low of €937 per troy ounce.

The big gold exchange traded funds (ETFs) – having peaked at record inflows in May – have also been showing net outflows over the past few days.

Meanwhile, economists and gold market-watchers were determined to hunt down which bank is short of cash – curious about who is using their stash of precious metal for what looks suspiciously like a secret bailout.

At first it looked like the BIS was swapping gold with a troubled central bank. After all, the institution is the central bankers' bank and its purpose to conduct transactions with national monetary authorities.

Central banks in the troubled southern zone of Europe were considered the most likely perpetrators.

According to the World Gold Council, central banks in Greece, Spain and Portugal held 112.2, 281.6 and 382.5 tons of gold respectively in June – leading analysts to point fingers at Portugal, or a combination of the three.

But Edel Tully, an analyst from UBS, noted that eurozone central banks would be severely limited with what they could do with the influx of extra cash – unable to transfer it straight to governments or make use of the primary bond markets.

She then listed the only other potential monetary authorities with enough gold as the US, China, Switzerland, Japan, Russia, India and Taiwan – and the International Monetary Fund.

This led to musings that the counterparty was the IMF, making sense because the lender of last resort is historically prone to cash shortages and has been quietly selling off gold in the first half of the year.

Renowned gold expert Jim Sinclair adopted this explanation. The panic came when people mistook a lease for a swap, he argues. Far from being a big release of gold into the market, it is simply a commercial arrangement between the IMF and BIS with a favourable rate of interest paid for the foreign currency.

"Gold swaps are usually undertaken by monetary authorities," he writes on his industry blog, MineSet. "The gold is exchanged for foreign exchange deposits with an agreement that the transaction be unwound at a future time at an agreed price.

"The IMF will pay interest on the foreign exchange received. Historically swaps occur when entities like the IMF have a need for foreign exchange, but do not wish to sell the gold. In this case, gold is a leveraging device for needed currency to meet requirements.

"The many reports that characterise the large IMF gold swap as a sale of gold into the markets do not understand the difference between a swap and a lease."

However, the day after original reports about the swaps, BIS emailed a statement saying that the swaps had not been conducted with monetary authorities but purely with commercial banks.

This did nothing to quell the sense of mystery surrounding the deal or deals. It is almost inconceivable that a single commercial bank could have accumulated so much gold alone. And cynics have suggested that the whole affair still looks like a secretive European bailout that a single country wants to keep quiet.

In this case, one or more of the so-called bullion banks – which act as wholesale market-makers and include Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank, JP Morgan, HSBC, Barclays, UBS, Societe Generale, Mitsui and the Bank of Nova Scotia – would have agreed to act on behalf of a monetary authority.

This would add an extra layer of anonymity. "So the BIS swaps look like a tripartite transaction," writes Adrian Douglas of the Gold Anti-Trust Association. "The commercial bank or banks made a swap with a central bank or banks and then the commercial bank or banks made a swap with the BIS."

Analysts for Commerzbank note that in the meantime, "The price of gold is tending weaker at present."
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[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]



Secret gold swap has spooked the market
IT takes a lot to spook the solid old gold market. But when it emerged last week that one or more banks had lent 380 tonnes of gold to the Bank of International Settlements in return for foreign currencies, there was widespread surprise and confusion

By Garry White and Rowena Mason
Published: 6:10PM BST 11 Jul 2010

The news that a mystery bank has just pawned the family jewels gave traders a jolt – nervous about the sudden transfer of almost 20pc of the world's annual gold production and the possibility of a sell-off.

In a tiny footnote in its annual report, the bank disclosed its unusually large holding of gold, compared with nothing the year before. The disclosure was a large factor in the correction of the gold price this week, which fell below $1,200 for the first time in more than a month.

hinged on whether the BIS could potentially sell on this vast cache of bullion in the event of a default, flooding the market with liquidity. It appears to have raised $14bn for whoever's been doing the swapping – small fry on the currency markets, but serious liquidity in the gold market.

Denominated in euros, gold has fallen 8pc since the beginning of the month and is now trading at a seven-week low of €937 per troy ounce.

The big gold exchange traded funds (ETFs) – having peaked at record inflows in May – have also been showing net outflows over the past few days.

Meanwhile, economists and gold market-watchers were determined to hunt down which bank is short of cash – curious about who is using their stash of precious metal for what looks suspiciously like a secret bailout.

At first it looked like the BIS was swapping gold with a troubled central bank. After all, the institution is the central bankers' bank and its purpose to conduct transactions with national monetary authorities.

Central banks in the troubled southern zone of Europe were considered the most likely perpetrators.

According to the World Gold Council, central banks in Greece, Spain and Portugal held 112.2, 281.6 and 382.5 tons of gold respectively in June – leading analysts to point fingers at Portugal, or a combination of the three.

But Edel Tully, an analyst from UBS, noted that eurozone central banks would be severely limited with what they could do with the influx of extra cash – unable to transfer it straight to governments or make use of the primary bond markets.

She then listed the only other potential monetary authorities with enough gold as the US, China, Switzerland, Japan, Russia, India and Taiwan – and the International Monetary Fund.

This led to musings that the counterparty was the IMF, making sense because the lender of last resort is historically prone to cash shortages and has been quietly selling off gold in the first half of the year.

Renowned gold expert Jim Sinclair adopted this explanation. The panic came when people mistook a lease for a swap, he argues. Far from being a big release of gold into the market, it is simply a commercial arrangement between the IMF and BIS with a favourable rate of interest paid for the foreign currency.

"Gold swaps are usually undertaken by monetary authorities," he writes on his industry blog, MineSet. "The gold is exchanged for foreign exchange deposits with an agreement that the transaction be unwound at a future time at an agreed price.

"The IMF will pay interest on the foreign exchange received. Historically swaps occur when entities like the IMF have a need for foreign exchange, but do not wish to sell the gold. In this case, gold is a leveraging device for needed currency to meet requirements.

"The many reports that characterise the large IMF gold swap as a sale of gold into the markets do not understand the difference between a swap and a lease."

However, the day after original reports about the swaps, BIS emailed a statement saying that the swaps had not been conducted with monetary authorities but purely with commercial banks.

This did nothing to quell the sense of mystery surrounding the deal or deals. It is almost inconceivable that a single commercial bank could have accumulated so much gold alone. And cynics have suggested that the whole affair still looks like a secretive European bailout that a single country wants to keep quiet.

In this case, one or more of the so-called bullion banks – which act as wholesale market-makers and include Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank, JP Morgan, HSBC, Barclays, UBS, Societe Generale, Mitsui and the Bank of Nova Scotia – would have agreed to act on behalf of a monetary authority.

This would add an extra layer of anonymity. "So the BIS swaps look like a tripartite transaction," writes Adrian Douglas of the Gold Anti-Trust Association. "The commercial bank or banks made a swap with a central bank or banks and then the commercial bank or banks made a swap with the BIS."

Analysts for Commerzbank note that in the meantime, "The price of gold is tending weaker at present."
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Secret gold swap has spooked the market

More bull$h!t propaganda by TPTB media.
Always aiming to subvert the truth with their spin.
What we really witness is a bank run on bullion.
All the fraudster banking scum have is paper iou derivatives and thats it!
We'll be seeing lots more of this shit.
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380 mt = 12,217,284 oz(troy) = about 2/3rds of one day's trading in gold at the LBMA, i.e. bullshit propaganda about the gold market as usual in the MSM
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This sounds like another scare attempt to flush out gold held by the average person...to scare them into selling it off...to them.

Without audits, we don't know if they really loaned out the gold.

As I read elsewhere, an accounting trick is to lend out the gols while keeping it on your books as an asset. Viola! Extra gold! The price can go down.

I thrust this news about as far as I can throw this website.
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These international bankers are always swapping around gold, but funny no actual bullion ever gets moved.

When Sprott recently offered to buy and take delivery for his ETF of a bunch of gold the IMF was supposedly "selling", they told him to take a hike
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I can't believe that people who buy ETF's can walk around with a grin. They should be hanging they're heads out of shame for allowing themselves to get raped for being so dumb. "Hello, knock knock, anyone in there?" ETF's=Junk
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Thanks for letting me know we're supposed to be spooked.
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This sounds like another scare attempt to flush out gold held by the average person...to scare them into selling it off...to them.

Without audits, we don't know if they really loaned out the gold.

As I read elsewhere, an accounting trick is to lend out the gols while keeping it on your books as an asset. Viola! Extra gold! The price can go down.

I thrust this news about as far as I can throw this website.
 Quoting: VOR 984012



That is exactly what they are going to do and I think that Gold will slip back to 985 or lower before the close of the year 2010.
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This sounds like another scare attempt to flush out gold held by the average person...to scare them into selling it off...to them.

Without audits, we don't know if they really loaned out the gold.

As I read elsewhere, an accounting trick is to lend out the gols while keeping it on your books as an asset. Viola! Extra gold! The price can go down.

I thrust this news about as far as I can throw this website.



That is exactly what they are going to do and I think that Gold will slip back to 985 or lower before the close of the year 2010.
 Quoting: T.O.Y.S. Party 1028810


I think gold will slip to 1370 or so before year's end. Gold holders are alot smarter than you give them credit for - real gold bugs won't bat an eye lid, and certainly won't be giving up their gold over this.
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only 380 tons..?
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It's headlines and deliberate misinfo like this that attempts to herd the weak hands into the short side of gold, or sell outright.

Only a fool would attempt to sell gold or short here, expecting a downside - as all the evidence in the bigger picture is that gold is still well and truly in a strong bull market.

This piece, at Sinclair's site, kind of puts it in perspective. Those who have held gold or who have traded it for many years know that there is periodically and indefinitely a steady stream of propaganda to attempt people to sell out, or not even enter, the gold market.

Bullish Money Flows in Gold

CIGA Eric

Targeted, fearful headlines, intended to create an emotional response in gold, continue to hide inflows (outflow of short) into weakness from connected players. The operation is coordinated and professional.

Gold London P.M Fixed and the Commercial Traders COT Futures and Options Stochastic Weighted Average of Net Long

As A % of Open Interest


While connected players setup for the next advance, they do so while retail money is clearly on the wrong side of the trade (short).

Gold London P.M Fixed and the Nonreportable Traders COT Futures and Options Stochastic Weighted Average of Net Long
As A % of Open Interest


Are you ready for the unexpected?

[link to edegrootinsights.blogspot.com]
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This is just too much, I'm selling it all.

Cashing in.

There has to be something better to invest in.

What about silver? Do the bankers have 380 tons of silver..?
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This is just too much, I'm selling it all.

Cashing in.

There has to be something better to invest in.

What about silver? Do the bankers have 380 tons of silver..?
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Oh come on, you don't have any gold, admit it. Anyone who actually has been smart enough to buy any gold, is smart enough to know the OP article means jack.

They are also smart enough to know gold is a long term investment, hedge, insurance policy and just plain way of sleeping well at night. It's not something to get rich overnight with unless you want to take highly-leveraged trades.

It's virtually been the BEST overall investment over the past 10 years, and will be the best investment over the next 10 years.
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I dont make predictions...but gold will be under 1k by years
end..
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I dont make predictions...but gold will be under 1k by years
end..
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That Sounds Like a Prediction To Me.. charlie
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This sounds like another scare attempt to flush out gold held by the average person...to scare them into selling it off...to them.

Without audits, we don't know if they really loaned out the gold.

As I read elsewhere, an accounting trick is to lend out the gols while keeping it on your books as an asset. Viola! Extra gold! The price can go down.

I thrust this news about as far as I can throw this website.



That is exactly what they are going to do and I think that Gold will slip back to 985 or lower before the close of the year 2010.
 Quoting: T.O.Y.S. Party 1028810


Prediction -- It will go down for a while...that's the goal. But after they buy up as much as they can from the frightened public, the price will rise to a new high.
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