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More LIES from MSM, Big Pharma, Mainstream Medicine @ Calcium Supplements

 
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Folks please don't believe everything you read in the mainstream news!!

This article is 100% PURE FEAR MONGERING without anything substantial at all to back it up! It is full of "we don't know", "not really sure" "something suggests something" type of statements...

It is total CR*P!!

Here's the humdinger:
"...the pills provide little benefit: Even though they may increase bone density, they do not reduce the risk of fractures or of death."

LIES!! It is precisely because of poor bone density that you develop fractures!

It is also a basic, fundemental physiological maxim that your heart NEEDS calcium! It will not function without it! IF your calcium to phosphorus ratio in your blood stream is off balance, your body WILL PULL CALCIUM OUT OF YOUR BLOODSTREAM TO SUPPORT THE HEART!! This is why eating processed foods and drinking soft drinks is one of the worst things you can do for your body and bone health as they are loaded with Phosphorus!!

Portion of article below, complying with 50% or less rule:


"Although the increase in risk is small, they said, the widespread use of the supplements suggests that many women could be adversely affected.

In an editorial accompanying the report, cardiologists from the University of Leeds and the University of Hull in England noted that, "Given the uncertain benefits of calcium supplements, any level of risk is unwarranted.... On the basis of the limited evidence available, patients with osteoporosis should generally not be treated with calcium supplements, either alone or combined with vitamin D, unless they are also receiving an effective treatment for osteoporosis." Further research is urgently required, they added.

Although there are several possibilities, no one is sure how the supplements could increase heart attack risk."
[link to www.latimes.com]
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07/31/2010 11:45 AM
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Folks please don't believe [Anything] you read in the mainstream news!!


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1053526


There, fixed it for you.

Magnesium is way overlooked in bone health. The other HUGE issue is most people have a very acidic PH level. It's directly related to diet. The body has a neat trick to bring it back into balance. It leeches Calcium from the bones. Dairy ironically is very acidifying and is a huge culprit in osteoporosis. Denmark Norway and Sweden consume the most diary and have the highest rates of osteoporosis, followed by the USA. So enjoy the hilarity, during your doctors visit when he parrots bullshit straight out of fiction and promoted by the Diary Industry, leading you straight into further sickness and disease. Milk it does a body harm.
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07/31/2010 11:47 AM
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Oh man....here we go, codex aliementum (sp)

those fucks are going to take vitamins off the shelves eventually...

all lies...i agree.

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Magnesium is actually huge in heart health.


"According to the U.S. National Academy of Sciences (1977) there have been more than 50 studies, in nine countries, that have indicated an inverse relationship between water hardness and mortality from cardiovascular disease. That is, people who drink water that is deficient in magnesium and calcium generally appear more susceptible to this disease. The U.S. National Academy of Sciences has estimated that a nation-wide initiative to add calcium and magnesium to soft water might reduce the annual cardiovascular death rate by 150,000 in the United States." ( Dr. Harold D. Foster , " Groundwater and Human Health," Groundwater Resources of British Columbia, Ministry of Environment, Lands, and Parks and Environment Canada, pp 6.1-6.3 (reprint), 1994.



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Magnesium is huge for heart health.....also it was recommended by a homeopathic dr for me when I was having a nervous breakdown...it helped calm me down quite a bit...

Also I have read for alcoholics who are quitting and dealing with a pounding heart...helps regulate the heart.
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07/31/2010 12:13 PM
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Agree magnesium is huge and most cal/mag supplements don't have enough as it should be 1:1.

Anyway I'm starting to think many vitamins are over rated. A meal with broccoli and say some canned salmon with bones is a way healthier and better calcium supplement than some pills.
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07/31/2010 12:23 PM
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Don't forget D3. It's crucial for the proper metabolization of calcium.
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07/31/2010 01:48 PM
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Agree magnesium is huge and most cal/mag supplements don't have enough as it should be 1:1.

Anyway I'm starting to think many vitamins are over rated. A meal with broccoli and say some canned salmon with bones is a way healthier and better calcium supplement than some pills.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1036778


Yes eating it from the source is better than supplementation if you can eat enough of it, every day! Most people cannot, and since our mineral content of the soil in the US has degraded almost 80% from what it was back in the early 1900's when the levels for mineral needs were determined, most people are not going to get enough vitamins and minerals from their food, even if they grow their own unless they've amended their soils and have yearly soils testing done.

Also, there are folks like me who are allergic to some foods, Broccoli being one for me, so I don't eat it.

Supplements are helpful and necessary in the world we live in and Big Pharma KNOWS this.. so do those who encourage and promote Eugenics.

And yes, Magnesium is also very important... Actually having a good mineral balance is very important for everyone because it is the minerals in your body that promotes the detox effect which happens every night (research the Krebs Cycle).

IF you can afford it, take minerals that are Chelated; meaning they are bound to a protein which will get them into your bloodstream and guarantee that they will not bind to a plant fiber and be washed away down the elimination tract...
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