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What do you know of Quetzalcoatl?

 
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But what was the square root of 2?

It couldn't be a whole number, since there is no whole number between 1 and 2.

Then was it a ratio of whole numbers between 1 and 2? Hopefully, they tried every possible ratio, multiplying it by itself, to see if the answer would be 2. There was no such ratio.

After long and fruitless work, the Pythagoreans had to give up. They simply could not find any number for the square root of 2. We write the answer as 1.4141..., a continuing decimal fraction, but they couldn't do that since they had no concept of zero and of decimals. They could draw the hypotenuse easily, but they could not express its length as a number. It was "unutterable"-"unspeakable"!

 Quoting: Sugarelf

and yet people insist that when everything is summed, the answer is zero.

it most certainly is not.

there is a fundamental imbalance in my experience...and incalculable remnant, enduring and eternal
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Some say that he was Osiris who made his way over during a journey to the east and upon his return to Egypt it was Mexico that he described as the Reed Fields where the house of Maat was. It is interesting to note that one of the titles given to Mayan Priests is Keeper of the Meeting Houst Maat.
 Quoting: Truevoiceman


Yes !!

Osiris was the grandson of Shu....

It is Shu and Ma'at together who judge the hearts of the dead....by weighing them against a feather....


Saith Osiris Ani: "Hail, children of: Shu! Hail, children of Shu, [children of] the place of the dawn, who as the children of light have gained possession of his crown. May I rise up and may I fare forth like Osiris."
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Re: What do you know of Quetzalcoatl?
and yet people insist that when everything is summed, the answer is zero.

it most certainly is not.


 Quoting: Bullfrog


zero is always one....

zero is one of something....


zero is a whole hole....
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Re: What do you know of Quetzalcoatl?
Zero is nothing and nothing is forever.

From what i've read its symbolic to DNA
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Please, no wikipedia...
 Quoting: Bullfrog


He is the God Thoth:

"Thoth was an immortal, that is, he had conquered death, passing only when he willed and even then not through death. His vast wisdom made him ruler over the various Atlantean colonies, including the ones in South and Central America.

When the time came for him to leave Egypt, he erected the Great Pyramid over the entrance to the Great Halls of Amenti, placed in it his records, and appointed guards for his secrets from among the highest of his people."


Link:

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I know that Jeremiah was a bullfrog.


and he was a good friend of mine....
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Did you help him drink his wine?
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He is the God Thoth:

 Quoting: The Reggae guy


Thoth was more like the secretary to the gods....Thoth was the written law....
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Zero is nothing and nothing is forever.

From what i've read its symbolic to DNA
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1037661


and nothing is one....


zero always has a place value of one....always....


0 = 1


That is the Law of One....
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I know that Jeremiah was a bullfrog.


and he was a good friend of mine....


Did you help him drink his wine?
 Quoting: geminilion


LOL!!!

Joy to the World bro.

peace hf
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Re: What do you know of Quetzalcoatl?
I know that Jeremiah was a bullfrog.


and he was a good friend of mine....


Did you help him drink his wine?
 Quoting: geminilion


All the time....
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Re: What do you know of Quetzalcoatl?
Qetzalcoatl (Aztec)

Oh and is pared with Shiva in several video game systems.
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Re: What do you know of Quetzalcoatl?
Zero is nothing and nothing is forever.

From what i've read its symbolic to DNA


and nothing is one....


zero always has a place value of one....always....


0 = 1


That is the Law of One....
 Quoting: Sugarelf

well, we are getting philosophical again.

this is only true if you hold that nothing is some thing.

I hold that in order to exist, you must have more than mere position.
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Qetzalcoatl (Aztec)

Oh and is pared with Shiva in several video game systems.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1031524


and there are many many ties between Shiva and Shu....
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Zero is nothing and nothing is forever.

From what i've read its symbolic to DNA


and nothing is one....


zero always has a place value of one....always....


0 = 1


That is the Law of One....

well, we are getting philosophical again.

this is only true if you hold that nothing is some thing.

I hold that in order to exist, you must have more than mere position.
 Quoting: Bullfrog


yes and no....

in Algerbra, it is refered to as the 'empty set' sometimes....


I think, therefore I am....

I thing, therefore I am....

Zero is thing, therefore Zero am....
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There are many indications that he was actually a great prophet of his time and wandered the Americas preaching peace and brotherhood.
 Quoting: Truevoiceman


and was a whiteman who looked like Jesus according to some accounts....


One thing for sure....Quetzalcoatl will be/is a uniter....
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Re: What do you know of Quetzalcoatl?
0 = 1

proof:


(x-x)x = 0 = x2-x2

x2-x2 = (x-x)(x+x)

(x-x)x = (x-x)(x+x)


Divide both sides by (x-x)....

x = x+x

1 = 2


Subtract 1 from each side....

0 = 1
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0 = 1

proof:


(x-x)x = 0 = x2-x2

x2-x2 = (x-x)(x+x)

(x-x)x = (x-x)(x+x)


Divide both sides by (x-x)....

x = x+x

1 = 2


Subtract 1 from each side....

0 = 1
 Quoting: Sugarelf

there is a reason one must never divide by zero in mathematical logic.

The zero exists only as a position, implying clearly that either something is missing, or something is coming to its position.

of itself, it has no semantic content, only syntax...

What I am saying is that zero is something, but it is never unique, never discreet, never defined as anything other than a placeholder for some other event which (like the real numbers...) have context, semantics, uniqueness, discreetness, and existence...

in your proof, x is a real number, not zero...when you remove its value (x-x) you have removed meaning and revert merely to an undefined position (valueless).

in the division following, you attempt to determine how many somethings exist on an undefined unit basis.

not possible, qed, zero isn't something.
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"Mayan Indians called them: Toltecs meaning:
Giant – warring people.
Toltec is a word for ‘god’ – expanded Quetzalcoatl feathered serpent that created the world.
Mayans viewed sacrifice like war of the Europeans.
They explained Europeans killed during a war – Mayans killed after a war."


Chapter 19
1 And Uriel said to me: 'Here shall stand the angels who have connected themselves with women, and their spirits assuming many different forms are defiling mankind and shall lead them astray into sacrificing to demons as gods, (here shall they stand,) till the day of the great judgement in 2 which they shall be judged till they are made an end of. And the women also of the angels who 3 went astray shall become sirens.' And I, Enoch, alone saw the vision, the ends of all things: and no man shall see as I have seen.

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0 = 1

proof:


(x-x)x = 0 = x2-x2

x2-x2 = (x-x)(x+x)

(x-x)x = (x-x)(x+x)


Divide both sides by (x-x)....

x = x+x

1 = 2


Subtract 1 from each side....

0 = 1

there is a reason one must never divide by zero in mathematical logic.

The zero exists only as a position, implying clearly that either something is missing, or something is coming to its position.

of itself, it has no semantic content, only syntax...

What I am saying is that zero is something, but it is never unique, never discreet, never defined as anything other than a placeholder for some other event which (like the real numbers...) have context, semantics, uniqueness, discreetness, and existence...

in your proof, x is a real number, not zero...when you remove its value (x-x) you have removed meaning and revert merely to an undefined position (valueless).

in the division following, you attempt to determine how many somethings exist on an undefined unit basis.

not possible, qed, zero isn't something.
 Quoting: Bullfrog


what you have stated is true....

yet we can raise any real number by the power of zero....

1^0 = 1
2^0 = 1
3^0 = 1
ect....

the urgument then goes to 0^0....

0^0 is 1....therefore, division by zero is quite possible....
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Quetzalcoatl is an ascended being (feathers) who returns to Earth spreading divine wisdom (serpent) amongst commmon people. Not for reward or power. There have been many (Jesus, Buddha, etc.).
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Re: What do you know of Quetzalcoatl?
what you have stated is true....

yet we can raise any real number by the power of zero....

1^0 = 1
2^0 = 1
3^0 = 1
ect....

the urgument then goes to 0^0....

0^0 is 1....therefore, division by zero is quite possible....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


when you make this argument, you forget the other law that is just as valid and must be respected if you also respect the logic in your above argument....

and that is the axiom that zero to ANY power is zero...

so we have

0^3=0
0^2=0
0^1=0
and also:

0^0=0

the real issue is finding meaning in a place that has none of its own.

the truth is that 0^0=0 because without a meaningful root, without the uniqueness of a non zero something
any multiplicative effort remains stuck without a foundation upon which to create a processing event.

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Quetzalcoatl is an ascended being (feathers) who returns to Earth spreading divine wisdom (serpent) amongst commmon people. Not for reward or power. There have been many (Jesus, Buddha, etc.).
 Quoting: xen

There are no words of Quetzalcoatl. He has nothing but graven images and memories.

There is only one Christ.
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Re: What do you know of Quetzalcoatl?
what you have stated is true....

yet we can raise any real number by the power of zero....

1^0 = 1
2^0 = 1
3^0 = 1
ect....

the urgument then goes to 0^0....

0^0 is 1....therefore, division by zero is quite possible....


when you make this argument, you forget the other law that is just as valid and must be respected if you also respect the logic in your above argument....

and that is the axiom that zero to ANY power is zero...

so we have

0^3=0
0^2=0
0^1=0
and also:

0^0=0

the real issue is finding meaning in a place that has none of its own.

the truth is that 0^0=0 because without a meaningful root, without the uniqueness of a non zero something
any multiplicative effort remains stuck without a foundation upon which to create a processing event.
 Quoting: Bullfrog


I will finish with this:


The discussion of 0^0 is very old. Euler argues for 0^0 = 1 since a^0 = 1 for a not equal to 0 .

The controversy raged throughout the nineteenth century, but was mainly conducted in the pages of the lesser journals: Grunert's Archiv and Schlomilch's Zeitshrift.

Consensus has recently been built around setting the value of 0^0 = 1 .


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Quetzalcoatl is an ascended being (feathers) who returns to Earth spreading divine wisdom (serpent) amongst commmon people. Not for reward or power. There have been many (Jesus, Buddha, etc.).

There are no words of Quetzalcoatl. He has nothing but graven images and memories.

There is only one Christ.
 Quoting: Bullfrog


That is becasue the Roman Catholics destroyed the words of Quetzalcoatl in the 16th century....except for what is hidden away in Rome today....
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Quetzalcoatl is an ascended being (feathers) who returns to Earth spreading divine wisdom (serpent) amongst commmon people. Not for reward or power. There have been many (Jesus, Buddha, etc.).

There are no words of Quetzalcoatl. He has nothing but graven images and memories.

There is only one Christ.


That is becasue the Roman Catholics destroyed the words of Quetzalcoatl in the 16th century....except for what is hidden away in Rome today....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


exactly, so they can say we are the one and only. every race, every human, everyone is the son of god. everyone can become christ, or evolve into christ consciousness, same thing. to return from such a place is a huge sacrfice that is needed due to power hungry, truth destroying religions and systems of governemt.

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Sugarelf, Notice that 0^0 is a discontinuity of the function f(x,y) = x^y

there is only a quantum shadow of an answer :)

I love these mysteries and you are an awesome conversationalist on these topics.
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That is becasue the Roman Catholics destroyed the words of Quetzalcoatl in the 16th century....except for what is hidden away in Rome today....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


Actually they burned everything that had been written all scrolls and books of the ancient texts were destroyed. Such was the fear of these so called civilized men!

If there are any (most likely) at the vatican tha would be something!
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Quetzalcoatl is an ascended being (feathers) who returns to Earth spreading divine wisdom (serpent) amongst commmon people. Not for reward or power. There have been many (Jesus, Buddha, etc.).

There are no words of Quetzalcoatl. He has nothing but graven images and memories.

There is only one Christ.


That is becasue the Roman Catholics destroyed the words of Quetzalcoatl in the 16th century....except for what is hidden away in Rome today....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


so he has been bound, but not destroyed...
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Please, no wikipedia...
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at first, this name did seem to be tied to a Christ consciousness kind of thing.

Later saw lots of interesting discussions that this Feathered Serpent fella might have been the Sumerian/Anunnaki being Enki, or something like that.

Not sure if its an higher density compassionate being, or one of those call me god, kind of beings.
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I will finish with this:


The discussion of 0^0 is very old. Euler argues for 0^0 = 1 since a^0 = 1 for a not equal to 0 .

The controversy raged throughout the nineteenth century, but was mainly conducted in the pages of the lesser journals: Grunert's Archiv and Schlomilch's Zeitshrift.

Consensus has recently been built around setting the value of 0^0 = 1 .


its true...but what is not true is that Authority is Truth...rather Truth that is Authority.

Euler was a shill.

lol...
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