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A democrat/socialist friend of mine today explained to me that just 5% of the people in this country now own 100% of the farmland.

He said that farmland should be siezed by the state and turned into communal collective farms.

This would allow people to leave the congested cities and live blissful rural lives working on state owned collective farms.

That many humans with hoes can do the work now being done by polluting tractors that destroy the earth.

He told me to imagine sitting around a campfire after a hard days honest work on the farm, singing, laughing with the other workers. A carefree life the way nature intended instead of being penned up in some office cubical in a high stress city job.
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Jeffersonian democracy lives...)
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It might just happen anyway as it all falls apart.
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you can tell your friend to granny

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Why?

Should someone skis and season pass be seized so we can all have fun skiing?

Why should some groups be punished for making a good spending choice instead of a bad choice? This is why "hording" is bullshit. Someone wisely chose to buy some extra food just in case and then some other asshole spends their extra cash on monster truck week and beer and magazines. WHY should one person make up for the foolishness of another?

BTW, the farmland is mostly subsidized for the state for itself. if anyone IS hording it's them. This is our food and they use it as a bargaining tool in 3rd world toilets to fuck around with petty tyrants. See: Africa.

Last Edited by Olibow on 08/05/2010 07:04 PM
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Having spent many joyful years sitting around the communal campfire I feel especially privileged to say a hearty fuck you original poster. I turn my thermostat to the right,heat,to the left,cold. society rocks!! even with the rampant greed and devaluation of human worth, you can keep your hoe,your state run farm and your idealist ass-talk,As it stands now special loans are available in my state for moderately poor to purchase farmland, Few takers.

fucking hippies.
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In other words, turn everyone into slaves...
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He told me to imagine sitting around a campfire after a hard days honest work on the farm, singing, laughing with the other workers. A carefree life the way nature intended instead of being penned up in some office cubical in a high stress city job.
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All under the ever watchful eye of the State's gunmen.
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Joseph Stalin would be proud OP.







... and he only starved several hundred thousand Russians to death with government run farms.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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A democrat/socialist friend of mine today explained to me that just 5% of the people in this country now own 100% of the farmland.

He said that farmland should be siezed by the state and turned into communal collective farms.

This would allow people to leave the congested cities and live blissful rural lives working on state owned collective farms.

That many humans with hoes can do the work now being done by polluting tractors that destroy the earth.

He told me to imagine sitting around a campfire after a hard days honest work on the farm, singing, laughing with the other workers. A carefree life the way nature intended instead of being penned up in some office cubical in a high stress city job.
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That's called communism. The government ends up in charge of the communal part.
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Now I am sure I remember someone else who tried this ...

Ah yes .... I got it .... Comrade Stalin and it was called collectivisation ..... I forget now how many tens of millions starved to death!

Those who forget their history are condemned to repeat it!
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A democrat/socialist friend of mine today explained to me that just 5% of the people in this country now own 100% of the farmland.

He said that farmland should be siezed by the state and turned into communal collective farms.
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Your friend is a Communist idiot.

The reason only 5 percent of people own farmland is because almost all other farms were driven out of business by liberal, big government interference and turned into housing tracts, highways, airports and subdivisions. Most of the farmers who are left are struggling to get by.

The other 95 percent are city and burb dwellers who sit on their fat ass all day playing Wii and Xbox and think their food magically appears in the grocery store. Those idiots wouldn't lift a finger to plow up fields, plant crops and harvest the food when it's ready.

And you wonder why John Titor spoke of a civil war between country dwellers and city people.

When the nuke war happens in 2019, country dwellers will win by default when all the ungrateful, lazy city dwellers are vaporized.

militia
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Commie tard. Look up farming in Mao and Stalin's utopia.
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He told me to imagine sitting around a campfire after a hard days honest work on the farm, singing, laughing with the other workers. A carefree life the way nature intended instead of being penned up in some office cubical in a high stress city job.

All under the ever watchful eye of the State's gunmen.
 Quoting: Evil Twin



It's amazing adults buy into this utopia crap. It just doesn't work. Achievers won't carry underachievers. Period. It makes everyone work less. Why should you work your ass off to produce when the lazy fuck next to you does half as much but you always get paid the same and can't advance or be anything else? Why does slavery appeal to anyone?

All you submissive freeloading leech fucks should be shot.

Singing and laughing about what? The nothing you have?

If you or your moron friend want to live like that, then go BUY some land, share the ownership and see how long your fun times at Camp La De Da works out. Esp. when your leechy bud just thinks you should do all the work why he fucks his loser GF in the haystack (that you broke your ass pitching) and smokes pot under a tree, while you make the food you need to live and give to the food bank (state) and you get a mere 10% of it.
And the state are all trillionaries. From the rest of what they stole from you while they throw you a fucking crumbs of your hard earned work and you're supposed to be grateful for it? BS. Yeah, there is no such thing as communism, it's a fucking pipe dream. the reality is death and oppression and misery. My mother grew up under it. Stalinist Romania. It sucks, it's not fair, it's terrorism, committed by a bunch of lawless jack booted thugs.

Last Edited by Olibow on 08/05/2010 08:31 PM
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From ED TV (1999)

I feel that Ed (TV) is the apotheosis of a prevailing American syndrome. It used to be that someone became famous because they were special. Now people are considered special just for being famous. Fame, itself, is now a moral good in this country. It's its own virtue.
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He told me to imagine sitting around a campfire after a hard days honest work on the farm, singing, laughing with the other workers. A carefree life the way nature intended instead of being penned up in some office cubical in a high stress city job.

All under the ever watchful eye of the State's gunmen.



It's amazing adults buy into this utopia crap. It just doesn't work. Achievers won't carry underachievers. Period. It makes everyone work less. Why should you work your ass off to produce when the lazy fuck next to you does half as much but you always get paid the same and can't advance or be anything else? Why does slavery appeal to anyone?

All you submissive freeloading leech fucks should be shot.

Singing and laughing about what? The nothing you have?

If you or your moron friend want to live like that, then go BUY some land, share the ownership and see how long your fun times at Camp La De Da works out. Esp. when your leechy bud just thinks you should do all the work why he fucks his loser GF in the haystack (that you broke your ass pitching) and smokes pot under a tree, while you make the food you need to live and give to the food bank (state) and you get a mere 10% of it.
And the state are all trillionaries. From the rest of what they stole from you while they throw you a fucking crumbs of your hard earned work and you're supposed to be grateful for it? BS. Yeah, there is no such thing as communism, it's a fucking pipe dream. the reality is death and oppression and misery. My mother grew up under it. Stalinist Romania. It sucks, it's not fair, it's terrorism, committed by a bunch of lawless jack booted thugs.
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Farm work is not all that blissful. I grew up on a farm and hated it. If I had to be forced to work on a farm, I guess I'd have to just shoot myself. And if you're talking forced communalization, it didn't work in China - people starved on those communes, they didn't produce enough food. Private farms produce more than enough food to feed the whole country.
There are a lot of communes set up that are voluntary, but strangely enough, most of them don't use their land to grow food, they take vans into town and purchase their food at grocery stores. They could grow their own food, but it's too hard work and there are easier ways to make money to support the commune.
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seize all the unused urban/city land and farm it.
No reason at all that agriculture can't happen in the heart of a city.
Then people don't have to drive so far.
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In other words, turn everyone into slaves...
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No, let their be a demonstration of true Darwinism.
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*there*
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My family farm has been in our family since the 1700's. We've kept it through the Revolutionary War, the Civil War and the Great Depression.

You will take my land and my heritage over my dead body.

Live free or die.
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My family farm has been in our family since the 1700's. We've kept it through the Revolutionary War, the Civil War and the Great Depression.

You will take my land and my heritage over my dead body.

Live free or die.
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let me know if you need backup....
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My family farm has been in our family since the 1700's. We've kept it through the Revolutionary War, the Civil War and the Great Depression.

You will take my land and my heritage over my dead body.

Live free or die.


let me know if you need backup....
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I think there are many people who are just as passionate about this. First it's the farmland, next second homes and investment property and after that no one will be able to own their home, everything will belong to those in power.
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Monsanto and Archer Daniels Midland
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Interesting,DrPostman

I rarely agree with your opinions on different threads/discussions that I've read BUT I do read them when I can.These names are unfamiliar to me...





hmm

I am going to do some digging.

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If you get the chance to watch Food Inc. it would be well worth
your time. That movie was a real eye opener on how Big Farm
Corps manipulate and threaten the few farmers they don't
control, as well as how they manipulate the market for illegal
immigrants.
[link to www.imdb.com]
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Thank you for pointing me in the right direction.

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you works for treehugger Opey?
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david de rothschild approves of OPeys post
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what lies in plain shill sight Idol1
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you can tell your friend to granny
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This.
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LOL! Yeah, great idea, it worked so well in every country that tried it.

If the intention is to cause mass murder starvation.






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Re: 5% own americas farmland - farmland should be siezed by the state and turned into communal collective farms!
A democrat/socialist friend of mine today explained to me that just 5% of the people in this country now own 100% of the farmland.

He said that farmland should be siezed by the state and turned into communal collective farms.

This would allow people to leave the congested cities and live blissful rural lives working on state owned collective farms.

That many humans with hoes can do the work now being done by polluting tractors that destroy the earth.

He told me to imagine sitting around a campfire after a hard days honest work on the farm, singing, laughing with the other workers. A carefree life the way nature intended instead of being penned up in some office cubical in a high stress city job.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475872


Your friend is a fucking idiot who is obviously ignorant of history. See, there was this place called the Soviet Union, where they already tried this bullshit. The result was STARVATION. But then, that's the socialist mantra: if it fails, forget (or ignore) that it failed and do it again later.
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Look at Rwanda, Zimbabwe and South Africa for shining examples of successful land redistribution schemes.

You, OP, are an Idiot.





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