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Deception & Lies Built Christianity in 325 CE




I have studied Christianity and other beliefs for quite some time now and I can’t believe how people can believe in a religion that promotes oppression, murder as well as many other crimes.

Like Christianity for example, there is a passage that promotes stoning, if you lookup passage Deuteronomy 21:18-21.

I'm starting to believe that both God and Allah are the same and he is the false god as both religions have immoral teachings like in Islam, apparently its good to fear Allah.

I have read about an African belief about the chitauli and there is a story that states that before the chitauli arrived, africans believed that God dwelt under the earth and after they were told he is in heaven.

What if Satans greatest deception wasn’t that he didn’t exist but what if his greatest deception was fooling the Christian population in believing Satan is God and God is Satan.

There’s also the possibility that the name God might have come from a different belief. I have heard of a pan-semitic deity called Gad who was worshipped by Hebrews during the Babylonian captivity. ( [link to en.wikipedia.org] )

Also from what I read about Christianity, I have come across the Piso theory. There are some that believe that Christianity was created by the Romans and another article I found states that the New Testament was written by the Roman Piso family ( [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net] , [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net] )


Anyone has thoughts on this? Also do you guys think it is a possibility that Christ might be the false messiah.

I read the Lamb will open the seven seals one by one and also the lamb having seven horns:
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Re: what if god is the false god?
the spiritual dimension of reality is a realm of EXPERIENCE, not "blind faith"... that's why christianity suits the infantile...
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j c
j c julius cesar = jesus christ he was killed also by romans and maria was his mother emperors where gods in ancient rome son of god j c
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Does it make any sense that a dead man can die and absolve the world of its sins? Does it make any sense that a man who was born of a mortal woman and lived a mortal life, is actually the Creator of the Universe and that he should be worshipped as if he were the Creator of the Universe? The Jesus religion was created by the Romans and made the law of the land, meaning whoever didn't change their beliefs to this new religion, could be killed and their property confiscated. Rome had conquered quite a huge portion of the civilized world, so when their new religion was made the law of the land, it just naturally caused the religion to become widespread. It had nothing to do with the message of a man absolving the world of its sins being such a wonderful and truhful idea. It had everything to do with the force, power and control of the mighty Roman Empire that had conquered these lands and now forced its new religion on these lands.
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It doesn't seem to me that it should matter.

The real God is the one that doesn't particularly care what the fuck you think.

So...just search the God that is their but isn't paying the least bit attention to you...especially if you have stupid shit to talk about.
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Does it make any sense that a dead man can die and absolve the world of its sins? Does it make any sense that a man who was born of a mortal woman and lived a mortal life, is actually the Creator of the Universe and that he should be worshipped as if he were the Creator of the Universe? The Jesus religion was created by the Romans and made the law of the land, meaning whoever didn't change their beliefs to this new religion, could be killed and their property confiscated. Rome had conquered quite a huge portion of the civilized world, so when their new religion was made the law of the land, it just naturally caused the religion to become widespread. It had nothing to do with the message of a man absolving the world of its sins being such a wonderful and truhful idea. It had everything to do with the force, power and control of the mighty Roman Empire that had conquered these lands and now forced its new religion on these lands.
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best commemt ive read here in ages, atlast someone who uses the brain and not letting fairytails rule. To bad this cancer is widespread over the world. But soon i hope religion Will be looked at something from the past.

Being spiritual and being religious is 2 different things, to bad some ppl cant see this
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Does it make any sense that a dead man can die and absolve the world of its sins? Does it make any sense that a man who was born of a mortal woman and lived a mortal life, is actually the Creator of the Universe and that he should be worshipped as if he were the Creator of the Universe? The Jesus religion was created by the Romans and made the law of the land, meaning whoever didn't change their beliefs to this new religion, could be killed and their property confiscated. Rome had conquered quite a huge portion of the civilized world, so when their new religion was made the law of the land, it just naturally caused the religion to become widespread. It had nothing to do with the message of a man absolving the world of its sins being such a wonderful and truhful idea. It had everything to do with the force, power and control of the mighty Roman Empire that had conquered these lands and now forced its new religion on these lands.
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Anyone has thoughts on this? Also do you guys think it is a possibility that Christ might be the false messiah.
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Given I have a vast respect for Christ consciousness I'll share that I think that Jesus "Christ" was made into being a messiah, and is and was not, as a being, spirit or human, a messiah to begin with, much less a false one.

It's tricky what the ones who fabricated all this religious dogma about the life and meaning of Jesus have done. To see your question as written kind of makes my heart drop into my stomach because when one does come to recognize the trickery and deception they might do something along the lines of throwing the baby out with the dirty bath water...they'll reject the truthful and vital Christ consciousness energy as a complete and total fallacy.

The Trickster's goal is achieved when this happens.
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Christ isn't a false messiah...it is a title and idea created by Priests.

The individual that would accept the title is the false messiah and the only person that would be offered the title is the true son of God.

So...the war is about the Son of God, not eating the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

quite simple actually...and when he accomplishes this minor task...the world created by the Priests that are the same that created the title Christ, will vanish.
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trust only in the creator, there can only be one true creator.

the creator of the universe



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because he could only do a little.
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Does it make any sense that a dead man can die and absolve the world of its sins? Does it make any sense that a man who was born of a mortal woman and lived a mortal life, is actually the Creator of the Universe and that he should be worshipped as if he were the Creator of the Universe? The Jesus religion was created by the Romans and made the law of the land, meaning whoever didn't change their beliefs to this new religion, could be killed and their property confiscated. Rome had conquered quite a huge portion of the civilized world, so when their new religion was made the law of the land, it just naturally caused the religion to become widespread. It had nothing to do with the message of a man absolving the world of its sins being such a wonderful and truhful idea. It had everything to do with the force, power and control of the mighty Roman Empire that had conquered these lands and now forced its new religion on these lands.
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What a pile...
Read Nag Hammadi!
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Does it make any sense that a dead man can die and absolve the world of its sins? Does it make any sense that a man who was born of a mortal woman and lived a mortal life, is actually the Creator of the Universe and that he should be worshipped as if he were the Creator of the Universe? The Jesus religion was created by the Romans and made the law of the land, meaning whoever didn't change their beliefs to this new religion, could be killed and their property confiscated. Rome had conquered quite a huge portion of the civilized world, so when their new religion was made the law of the land, it just naturally caused the religion to become widespread. It had nothing to do with the message of a man absolving the world of its sins being such a wonderful and truhful idea. It had everything to do with the force, power and control of the mighty Roman Empire that had conquered these lands and now forced its new religion on these lands.

What a pile...
Read Nag Hammadi!
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I have read it, or most of it, I have a copy I have read through many times looking for kernels of truth. What is there about Nag Hammadi that proves a man the Church calls Jesus saved the sins of the world by dying on the cross and ascending to heaven to sit at the right hand of God.
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Also do you guys think it is a possibility that Christ might be the false messiah.


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I think you are a deceiver and a liar, just like your father, your messiah, Satan.

See ya judgment day. We will see if your messiah can help you then.
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Also do you guys think it is a possibility that Christ might be the false messiah.



I think you are a deceiver and a liar, just like your father, your messiah, Satan.

See ya judgment day. We will see if your messiah can help you then.
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Trickster alert... gaah
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Is your question specifically about the deity they call "Yahweh"? This guy who called himself Yahweh was an evil stinker who wanted to trick some hapless barbarians into worshiping it as a "God". It pretended it was the Supreme Creator of the universe, and demanded the barbarians kill and burn animals for it. It also said it wanted foreskins off their penises as a kind of sacrament. Jesus, who actually has nothing to do with this beast, quite correctly tells us that one should look at the fruit to determine the tree. The fruit of this evil stinker is violence, war and evil, which continues to this day. This is one of the pieces of evidence that in their mixed up way, people who derive their superstitions from this character, continue to worship an evil entity. This beast takes us away from the light of knowledge and lead us down dark corridors of superstition and ignorance.
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the spiritual dimension of reality is a realm of EXPERIENCE, not "blind faith"... that's why christianity suits the infantile...
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Amen.
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Is your question specifically about the deity they call "Yahweh"? This guy who called himself Yahweh was an evil stinker who wanted to trick some hapless barbarians into worshiping it as a "God". It pretended it was the Supreme Creator of the universe, and demanded the barbarians kill and burn animals for it. It also said it wanted foreskins off their penises as a kind of sacrament. Jesus, who actually has nothing to do with this beast, quite correctly tells us that one should look at the fruit to determine the tree. The fruit of this evil stinker is violence, war and evil, which continues to this day. This is one of the pieces of evidence that in their mixed up way, people who derive their superstitions from this character, continue to worship an evil entity. This beast takes us away from the light of knowledge and lead us down dark corridors of superstition and ignorance.
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He liked his steak well done, trim the fat suckers.
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Is your question specifically about the deity they call "Yahweh"? This guy who called himself Yahweh was an evil stinker who wanted to trick some hapless barbarians into worshiping it as a "God". It pretended it was the Supreme Creator of the universe, and demanded the barbarians kill and burn animals for it. It also said it wanted foreskins off their penises as a kind of sacrament. Jesus, who actually has nothing to do with this beast, quite correctly tells us that one should look at the fruit to determine the tree. The fruit of this evil stinker is violence, war and evil, which continues to this day. This is one of the pieces of evidence that in their mixed up way, people who derive their superstitions from this character, continue to worship an evil entity. This beast takes us away from the light of knowledge and lead us down dark corridors of superstition and ignorance.
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Well stated - so eloquent and TRUE! Love you for this! hf
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Is your question specifically about the deity they call "Yahweh"? This guy who called himself Yahweh was an evil stinker who wanted to trick some hapless barbarians into worshiping it as a "God". It pretended it was the Supreme Creator of the universe, and demanded the barbarians kill and burn animals for it. It also said it wanted foreskins off their penises as a kind of sacrament. Jesus, who actually has nothing to do with this beast, quite correctly tells us that one should look at the fruit to determine the tree. The fruit of this evil stinker is violence, war and evil, which continues to this day. This is one of the pieces of evidence that in their mixed up way, people who derive their superstitions from this character, continue to worship an evil entity. This beast takes us away from the light of knowledge and lead us down dark corridors of superstition and ignorance.


He liked his steak well done, trim the fat suckers.
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Actually he liked the sizzle and sparkle of the burning fat.
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A"god" is a molten image. Yaweh and his son Yah are supreme.
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A"god" is a molten image. Yaweh and his son Yah are supreme.
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Yahweh is Satan in disguise. Those who follow and serve that beast do the works of evil. They have been tricked by the prince of liars. There is nothing supreme about that monster, except its trickery.
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I am a seeker of truth. It is what brought me to GLP years ago and has encouraged me to stay.

The biggest problem I have with the Bible is the seemingly split personality between Jesus Christ and God The Father. Even more confusion comes when you believe that they are one and the same deity.

I have a VERY difficult, if not impossible, time reconciling their roles. They are complete opposites to the extreme. One says to "love your enemies and do good to those that hate you", (advice that makes good sense to me, in that love attracts love) the other not only encourages us to kill our enemies but to do so in many grotesque ways, up to and including ripping open pregnant mothers and dashing their fetuses against the rocks. Talk about rotten fruit! I don't think you need to be a rocket scientist to see that something is definitely wrong here...you just have to be willing to see past the brainwashing of the church for what it is. A device of control, manipulation and an acceptance of doing pure evil in the protection of its name.

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What if Satans greatest deception wasn’t that he didn’t exist but what if his greatest deception was fooling the Christian population in believing Satan is God and God is Satan.

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Youre so close.

Keep looking. Look to old maps. Satan was a city the jews were at war with. One of many city states they committed genocide on. You have read the bible haven't you, its a book of conquest as they went forth stealing and killing.

Its now Americas turn.

red and black
black and red
open your eyes
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What if Satans greatest deception wasn’t that he didn’t exist but what if his greatest deception was fooling the Christian population in believing Satan is God and God is Satan.
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Impossible.

He canst neither deceive, nor be decieved.
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What if Satans greatest deception wasn’t that he didn’t exist but what if his greatest deception was fooling the Christian population in believing Satan is God and God is Satan.



Youre so close.

Keep looking. Look to old maps. Satan was a city the jews were at war with. One of many city states they committed genocide on. You have read the bible haven't you, its a book of conquest as they went forth stealing and killing.

Its now Americas turn.

red and black
black and red
open your eyes
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Can you please share more?
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If the communications from this "god" uses words in voice or text, it originates from a source in "this side" of the Gate between all that is finite and all that is infinite.

Even words placed into your mind are not it. That is you talking to you.

The Presence "speaks" with it's Structure giving you the ability to decypher a "language" that is constantly chattering about all of us since before man walked.

The language format is the Presence itself.
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Well of course...

Gold
Oil &
Drugs

Is a false G.O.D.

As is the money; "In G.O.D. We Trust" is printed upon.

LIFE is ALL that IS and IS NOT.
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follow your heart KRSNA is in all of our hearts if you listen to it.
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Deception & Lies Built Christianity in 325 CE

What if Satans greatest deception wasn’t that he didn’t exist but what if his greatest deception was fooling the Christian population in believing Satan is God and God is Satan.

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This is very close to correct. God even warned about it. This is the great deception that would fool even the elect if that were possible.

...man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; [4] Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

You see Christians invite Jesus into thier heart. The heart is the throne of God. And Christians claim Jesus is god.
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Anyone here study history? If you look at the Sumarian clay tablets they tell a tale of the Annunaki. A race of beings from Nibiru. They played god in many ways. They subjugated us to serve them. I know some of you have read Z. Sitchen and he tells the tale. The book is called The 12th planet. I also know Sitchen got some of the translations wrong and he has been debunked to some extent. The parts that are not debunked would be some of the cylinder seals and stone stela's with pictures on them of flying craft and other wild stuff.
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What if Satans greatest deception wasn’t that he didn’t exist but what if his greatest deception was fooling the Christian population in believing Satan is God and God is Satan.



Youre so close.

Keep looking. Look to old maps. Satan was a city the jews were at war with. One of many city states they committed genocide on. You have read the bible haven't you, its a book of conquest as they went forth stealing and killing.

Its now Americas turn.

red and black
black and red
open your eyes
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Which city? I'm pretty sure that Satan is some kind of deity.

Also I noticed in the bible it states that Satan was born a liar, a deceiver but lucifer was a holy cherub until the day he was found guilty.

what is your interpretation of this? I think Lucifer and Satan are two different deities.

What I'm starting to believe is that Lucifer is Horus and Satan is Enlil.

You know as 25th december is the date when christians celebrate Jesus's birth, 25th december is also the date of horus's birth and the illuminati worship Horus as you can see the all seeing eye symbol on the american dollar.

What if Jesus is an incarnation of Horus. Horus is the son of Enki isnt he? I think I heard somewhere he's the son of enki (the creator god), elsewhere I heard he is the son of Osiris (god of the afterlife, underworld and the dead).

Maybe Jesus sold out to Satan. In the bible I think I read that Satan tried to tempt Jesus by making him an offer at the top of a mountain.

Jesus could be a beast that bible mentions. Personally I believe there's more than one.





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