Fluoridation of water causes 20,000 plus cancer deaths per year in the U.S. | |
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(OP) 12/08/2005 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fluoride in tap water can cause bone cancer in boys, a disturbing new study indicates, although there is no evidence of a link for girls. New American research suggests that boys exposed to fluoride between the ages of five and 10 will suffer an increased rate of osteosarcoma - bone cancer - between the ages of 10 and 19. In the UK, fluoride is added to tap water on the advice of bodies such as the British Dental Association. The Department of Health maintains that it is a cost-effective public health measure that helps prevent tooth decay in children. About 10 per cent of the population, six million people, receive fluoridated water, mainly in the Midlands and north-east, and the government plans to extend this, with Manchester expected to be next. About 170 million Americans live in areas with fluoridated water. The increased cancer risks, identified in a newly available study conducted at the Harvard School of Dental Health, were found at fluoride exposure levels common in both the US and Britain. It was the first examination of the link between exposure to the chemical at the critical period of a child´s development and the age of onset of bone cancer. Although osteosarcoma is rare, accounting for only about 3 per cent of childhood cancers, it is especially dangerous. The mortality rate in the first five years is about 50 per cent, and nearly all survivors have limbs amputated, usually legs. The research has been made available by the Environmental Working Group (EWG), a respected Washington-based research organisation. The group reports that it has assembled a ´strong body of peer-reviewed evidence´ and has asked that fluoride in tap water be added to the US government´s classified list of substances known or anticipated to cause cancer in humans. ´This is a very specific cancer in a defined population of children,´ said Richard Wiles, the group´s co-founder. ´When you focus in and look for the incidence of tumours, you see the increase. ´We recognise the potential benefits of fluoride to dental health,´ added Wiles, ´but I´ve spent 20 years in public health, trying to protect kids from toxic exposure. Even with DDT, you don´t have the consistently strong data that the compound can cause cancer as you now have with fluoride.´ Half of all fluoride ingested is stored in the body, accumulating in calcifying tissue such as teeth and bones and in the pineal gland in the brain, although more than 90 per cent is taken into the bones. MPs who have recently voted against fluoridation proposals in Parliament include Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, and Michael Howard, the Conservative leader. Anti-fluoride campaigners argue that the whole issue has become highly politically sensitive. If health scares about fluoride were to be recognised in the courts, the litigation, especially in the US, could be expected to run for decades. Consequently, scientists have been inhibited from publicising any adverse findings. The new evidence only emerged by a circuitous process. It was contained in a Harvard dissertation by Dr Elise Bassin at the Harvard School of Dental Medicine. The dissertation, completed in April 2001, obviously had merit because Bassin was awarded her doctorate. However it has not been published. Environmental organisations were repeatedly denied access to it, and even bodies such as the US National Academy of Sciences could not get hold of a copy. Eventually two researchers from the Fluoride Action Network were allowed to read it in the rare books and special collections room at Harvard medical library. Bassin told The Observer her work was still going through the peer-review process, and she hopes that it will then be published. Dr Vyvyan Howard, senior lecturer in toxico-pathology at the University of Liverpool, has studied the new material. ´At these ages the bones of boys are developing rapidly,´ he said, ´so if the bones are being put together abnormally because fluoride is altering the bone structure, they´re more likely to get cancer. It´s biologically plausible, and the epidemiological evidence seems pretty strong - it looks as if there´s a definite effect.´ There is at present no understanding as to why males should be affected rather than females. A Department of Health spokesman said that the latest evaluation of research in the UK had identified no ill effects of fluoride. [link to www.rense.com] ================================== and to "someone", if you know something we dont know about it, then say something.......otherwise, fuck off and stay off my threads, because to me you are no one! **Virtue is the safest helmet** |
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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | =================================== I used to live in Manchester up until a couple of weeks ago, and I tell you this, flouride has been introiduced into Manchester for a good few years, you can actually smell the stuff when you turn on the tap water, smells like a swimming pool. When you get in the shower it burns your skin, its that concentrated. I had them out to test the water, the first sample they took, they said it got contaminated and had to do a new one. So they sent somebody else out to do a second sample, and that come back showing high levels of flouride and chloride, but they said that they wouldnt lower it unless everyone else complained too! HOw can you get these people to wake up and complain about this? when they´re all being dumbed down? and God knows what else they do to suppress us! |
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(OP) 12/08/2005 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That´s CHLORINE, you dimbulb, not floride! ================================== See! You do know something! and I thought YOU were a "dimbulb" lol who was being paid by the hour to debunk! Chlorine, Fluoride, to me they´re all things that shouldnt be there, especially the fluoride which has a long history of not being good for consumption. So, if you get anymore of them bright bulb brain storms, feel free to post them! **Virtue is the safest helmet** |
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(OP) 12/08/2005 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For some *real* (non-"woo-woo"-spun) info on fluoridation, check this link out: [link to www.quackwatch.org] Genuine info and knowledge are *always* the best weapons to use against woo-woo disinformation; They may try to "counter", but their rebuttals are *so* full of holes, that they *can´t* hold a mL of water. PS - BTW, have you ever noticed how woo-woos attack tools like Math, Science, and Logic, dismissing them as being wrong and/or irrelevant, then use those very same tools to try to prove their *own* ideas (Woo-woos, why *is* that)? **Virtue is the safest helmet** |
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(OP) 12/08/2005 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Speaking of Quackwatch, be sure to visit [link to quackpotwatch.org] Thank you for the reminder! Here´s a little sample: "The "quackbuster" operation is a conspiracy. It is a propaganda enterprise, one part crackpot, two parts evil. It´s sole purpose is to discredit, and suppress, in an "anything goes" attack mode, what is wrongfully named "Alternative Medicine." It has declared war on reality. The conspirators are acting in the interests of, and are being paid, directly and indirectly, by the "conventional" medical-industrial complex. Millions of health freedom fighters, and members of the public, worldwide, know what I know. Public outrage and reaction is growing. After 25 years of unopposed success, the "Quackbusters" are now in real trouble... "The end" for them, has begun. They, themselves are being hunted." **Virtue is the safest helmet** |
Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | RE Fluoride and cancer: Cancer Scares In the mid-1970s, John Yiamouyiannis, Ph.D. and another anti began issuing a series of reports claiming that fluoridation causes cancer. Experts concluded that these reports were based on a misinterpretation of government statistics. They had compared cancer death rates in fluoridated and nonfluoridated cities but failed to consider various factors in each city (such as industrial pollution) that are known to raise the cancer death rate. By 1977, independent investigations by eight of the leading medical and scientific organizations in the English-speaking world had refuted the claims, but they still surface today in many communities that consider fluoridation. In 1990, the cancer charge was raised again following an unauthorized release of data from an experiment in which rats and mice were exposed to high dosages of fluoride. The experiment was conducted by the National Toxicology Program, a branch of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences. The agency´s final report stated that there was no evidence of cancer-causing activity in female rats or in male and female mice and only "equivocal evidence" in male rats. Subsequent review by a U.S. Public Health Service expert panel concluded that the data were insignificant and that fluoridation posed no risk of cancer or any other disease. [link to www.quackwatch.org] |
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(OP) 12/08/2005 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "While a member of the Communist Party, I attended Communist training schools in New York and Wisconsin ... and we were trained in the revolutionary overthrow of the U.S. Government. "... We discussed quite thoroughly the fluoridation of water supplies and how we were using it in Russia as a tranquilizer in the prison camps. The leaders of our school felt that if it could be induced into the American water supply, it would bring about a spirit of lethargy in the nation, where it could keep the general public docile during a steady encroachment of Communism. We also discussed the fact that keeping a store of deadly fluoride near the water reservoir would be advantageous during the time of the revolution, as it would give us opportunity to dump this poison into the water supply and either kill off the populace or threaten them with liquidation, so that they would surrender to obtain fresh water." Oliver Kenneth Goff, member of the Communist Party and the Young Communist League, from May 2, 1936, to October 9, 1939. [link to www.preferrednetwork.com] **Virtue is the safest helmet** |
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(OP) 12/08/2005 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2148, People are supposed to believe what a "crackpot" site says about a "crackpot watchdog" site? Please, don´t make me laugh! That "crackpot" site has about as much credibility as OJ Simpson, Robert Blake, Michael Jackson, Ward Churchhill, or any of you woo-woos, do, in other words, absolutely N-O-N-E! *Absolutely, positively NONE! It would be like WIO saying that Vladimir Putin himself is out to murder her! Please, next time, *do* try to come up with a better reply! "Health freedom fighters", my ass; Try "health terrorists". They use scare-tactics to frighten people into *not* eating certain foods or *not* using certain products, by showing them some woo-woo-spun data; it *then* comes out that those so-called "health freedom fighters" have way over-stated the "dangers" of those products. This only goes to show that these so-called "health freedom fighters", don´t have any credibility, either. But, in spite of all of this, you have the *audacity* to want everyone to believe these *non-credible* people? I don´t *think* so! You see, there are actually people who have IQs that are above those of a gnat or fruit-fly (unlike you woo-woos, who make a gnat or a fruit-fly, look like a genius, in comparison). **Virtue is the safest helmet** |
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