62 MILLION HOMEOWNERS COULD BE OFF THE HOOK FROM THEIR MORTGAGE! MERS! | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1062917 United States 08/20/2010 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Awesome!!! LATEST INFO: [link to www.msfraud.org] Just in: WILL THIS BE ONE OF THE LAST SHOES TO DROP? California is following in the footsteps of Tennessee. Recent Sup. Ct. rulings held that MERS is not the holder in due course (real party in interest) of any property and never was. This can have devastating repercussions for the mortgage industry, not just MERS, because there is no valid chain of title. People who are being foreclosed upon, or have been foreclosed upon, now have an equitable remedy. These people should now be able to win in court and have their mortgage nightmares settled. Some people are able to keep their homes, as banks fear losing far more in class-action suits. Now California is getting in on the action and suing MERS for filing false records in every county in the state since MERS began over 10 years ago. Carrying a possible fine of $5-$10K a pop, this could amount to millions and possibly billions of dollars in penalties against MERS. This is money the counties desperately need. This could mean that anyone with a mortgage may have it immediately settled and the true owner will get the title free and clear due to fraud, which has no statute of limitation. Lawful owners will have recourse to sue for fraudulent foreclosure. Let's see what happens. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1062917 United States 08/20/2010 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder if this is possible in other countries Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1074194From everything I have read about it, it is only a US thing, that the U.S. banks put together. The lawyers are now doing the class actions against them for defrauding the state govts for billions/trillions of dollars by getting out of registering the deeds and changes of ownership. The ownership can not be determined for the mortgages, which is opening the door for the homeowner, against foreclosure. I have never read about this happening any where else in the world. I am Happy - My mortgage is a MERS mortgage. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1062917 United States 08/20/2010 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so if you have a MERS mortgage but are not under water or in foreclosure does it help in any way? Quoting: flavaporYEAH - You can Get your House FOR FREE!!! Sue the BANK - for Fraud!! Don't have to be underwater or in foreclosure - still a MERS mortgage. Everyone with MERS - contact a Lawyer in your state! I am serious! |
fight the banks User ID: 631308 United States 08/20/2010 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes this is very true and a very good posting. I wish all would put more effort in taking legal action against these banks. They are lying, concealing and producing fraud documents to the court. This topic should be pinned and everyone start in this revolt against the banks. People want to take action... Here's a good start! Here is a another ruling - victory for the homeowner. [link to www.msfraud.org] OneWest has been pulling some very interesting tactics. I If you file a TRO in the state court - they won't even show up for the Show Cause Hearing. They remove the case to Federal Court and try to sell the home at auction the following week. Well - get a good attorney and get a motion to remand back to state court - or go the the federal judge and file an emergency motion for Injunctive relief to stop them dead in their tracks. Don't be intimidated by these banks. That is exactly what they want. Network with others and lets all take the banks by storm in this country! |
Ice Princess User ID: 875198 United States 08/20/2010 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can a 2nd mortgage home equity line of credit be a MERS mortgage? I took one out in 2006. My aunt has a 2nd mortgage on her home, she owned the home outright then took out 75k 2nd mortgage on it. She fell behind on payments then got an eviction notice and a notice that the bank had sold her home to itself. She hired a lawyer who thought she had a case but she has since stopped paying him due to being broke. The bank hasn't said a thing to her in months. About 7 months ago they came to her door and told her she had 2 weeks to get out. Since then, nothing. This is Wells Fargo btw. Weird stuff. |
fight the bank User ID: 631308 United States 08/20/2010 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A second loan - MERS is not the beneficiary. The loan is really "unsecured". Most of these banks make threats and scare the homeowner. But most 2nd loans are generally written off. What year was the 2nd taken out? Most likely if it occurred in 2007 or later - the loan was bundled and pooled and if so - there is no chain of title (regardles of no MERS) If they claim to be a servicer..... go after who has the right to foreclose - who is the real party of interest. My bet - it was bundled with hundreds of loans and sold in a package. Think of it in general terms. You basically bought a chocolate chip. (1 CHIP) The bank collected chips from other homes, the sugar, the flour etc and made cookies and sold those cookies. Where is your CHIP! |
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fight the banks User ID: 631308 United States 08/20/2010 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't know if your mortgage is held by MERS Read your DEED OF TRUST. If you do not have the Deed of Trust - go to the County recorders office and look up your property. You will need the legal description of your property to locate the deed. Also you may find other interesting recordings in there that you weren't aware of. Are the docs dated before your closing date of the loan? Did they file additional documents after the closing date a few months later.... is it really your signature on those files... Good things to look for Student loans... hmm not sure on that. I understand what your saying - was there a meeting of the minds - did "both" of you sit at the table and sign the contract. I couldn't say - but worth checking with a financial/predatory loan attorney. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1057362 United States 08/20/2010 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then the IRS counts the house and possibly all remaining mortage payments as taxable income. Voila you fucko's are not getting a free house , not today , not ever. I do look forward to buying up all your useful shit at IRS auctions and reselling it for a bundle. So yes please get in on the free house deal , the more the merrier) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 631308 United States 08/20/2010 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then the IRS counts the house and possibly all remaining mortage payments as taxable income. Voila you fucko's are not getting a free house , not today , not ever. I do look forward to buying up all your useful shit at IRS auctions and reselling it for a bundle. So yes please get in on the free house deal , the more the merrier) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1057362Ahhh but you forget there are attorney fees awarded and damages... I will be more than happy to save that money to pay the IRS if even needed. Also if fraud was involved you are not liable for further payments - done, finished. you act like the IRS considers this a GIFT. Not when you have been damaged and an order by the court! obviously you don't have a good accountant. So I guess you are happy the bank got paid not once, not twice but three times for your house. Then they got paid insurance on the house..... So who's the one letting the banks continue on to be rich off the tax payers. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1074367 United States 08/20/2010 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here's the web site [link to www.mers-servicerid.org (secure)] just put in some info and it will let you know. both my loans were MERS! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1057362 United States 08/20/2010 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then the IRS counts the house and possibly all remaining mortage payments as taxable income. Voila you fucko's are not getting a free house , not today , not ever. I do look forward to buying up all your useful shit at IRS auctions and reselling it for a bundle. So yes please get in on the free house deal , the more the merrier) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 631308Ahhh but you forget there are attorney fees awarded and damages... I will be more than happy to save that money to pay the IRS if even needed. Also if fraud was involved you are not liable for further payments - done, finished. you act like the IRS considers this a GIFT. Not when you have been damaged and an order by the court! obviously you don't have a good accountant. So I guess you are happy the bank got paid not once, not twice but three times for your house. Then they got paid insurance on the house..... So who's the one letting the banks continue on to be rich off the tax payers. if you can't pay cash , you do not deserve to have it fucko. whether its a box of tic tacs , a PHD or property , you don't deserve to have it without paying cash. So fucko enjoy your rented property while you can , you can even rub one out saying mine mine mine on the berber carpet bought on credit too. its all going away soon |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1062917 United States 08/20/2010 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how can you tell if your mortgage is a MERS? or 2nd mortage? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1074367look on your deed of trust. Also 2nd mortgages are unsecured. I have NO problem with the thought of the banks losing out and 62 million getting their homes FOR FREE! The people have been screwed by the banks with it. MERS does not own the mortgage - NO one entity owns the mortgage that is the problem! The banks figured out a way to screw the people. I say NOW IT IS TIME FOR THE PEOPLE TO WIN AGAINST THE BANKS! |
Ice Princess User ID: 875198 United States 08/20/2010 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how can you tell if your mortgage is a MERS? or 2nd mortage? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1062917look on your deed of trust. Also 2nd mortgages are unsecured. I have NO problem with the thought of the banks losing out and 62 million getting their homes FOR FREE! The people have been screwed by the banks with it. MERS does not own the mortgage - NO one entity owns the mortgage that is the problem! The banks figured out a way to screw the people. I say NOW IT IS TIME FOR THE PEOPLE TO WIN AGAINST THE BANKS! If 2nd mortgages are unsecured, why couldn't mine be included in bankruptcy? As far as I know, the bank owns my house because of the 2nd mortgage. My first mortgage is a verbal agreement with my dad, it's complicated but we've been making the payments to him every month, and a BK attorney tells us we are liable to pay back all that money if we did file BK, as it is considered "insider privelage" so now I am working with creditors to try to settle some of my debts. Bank of America are being asses. I guess they would rather sell my debt for pennies on the dollar than take my 30% offer. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 631308 United States 08/20/2010 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did your BK attorney list the 2nd as "UNSECURED DEBT" on your schedule. Sounds like he didn't. Quoting: Ice Princess 875198If not - he actually had you commit perjury. YOUR BK attorney didn't do you any favors and sounds like he a cattle BK attorney - pushing as many through as he can. If he did list is unsecured - the bank would have to prove they are the parties of interest (owner of the note) how can you tell if your mortgage is a MERS? or 2nd mortage? look on your deed of trust. Also 2nd mortgages are unsecured. I have NO problem with the thought of the banks losing out and 62 million getting their homes FOR FREE! The people have been screwed by the banks with it. MERS does not own the mortgage - NO one entity owns the mortgage that is the problem! The banks figured out a way to screw the people. I say NOW IT IS TIME FOR THE PEOPLE TO WIN AGAINST THE BANKS! If 2nd mortgages are unsecured, why couldn't mine be included in bankruptcy? As far as I know, the bank owns my house because of the 2nd mortgage. My first mortgage is a verbal agreement with my dad, it's complicated but we've been making the payments to him every month, and a BK attorney tells us we are liable to pay back all that money if we did file BK, as it is considered "insider privelage" so now I am working with creditors to try to settle some of my debts. Bank of America are being asses. I guess they would rather sell my debt for pennies on the dollar than take my 30% offer. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1074455 United States 08/20/2010 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | don't want the bad karma of knowing I'm going to get my house for free because of some stupid loophole, even if houses are overpriced. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1071335YOU chose to sign the dotted line to buy the house at a specified price. Deal with it. Yep... pay your debts. You leaches would be the first to cry is yoyr employer found a loophole and screwed you out of a dime. I know karma exist and karma paybacks are rough Take your chances. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1062917 United States 08/20/2010 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | don't want the bad karma of knowing I'm going to get my house for free because of some stupid loophole, even if houses are overpriced. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1074455YOU chose to sign the dotted line to buy the house at a specified price. Deal with it. Yep... pay your debts. You leaches would be the first to cry is yoyr employer found a loophole and screwed you out of a dime. I know karma exist and karma paybacks are rough Take your chances. Yeah and the Banks Deserve the Karma of being Taken Down and their Fraud Exposed to be what it is, against the people! It has Been ALL Fraud! Karma - is a Bitch and The Banks Deserve the Karma of Losing 62 million homes they mortgaged to the people - because they were screwing the people the whole time. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1062917 United States 08/22/2010 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | class action suit against MERS Florida lawyers and MERS! The whole purpose of MERS is to allow “servicers” to pretend as if they are someone else: the “owners” of the mortgage, or the real parties in interest. In fact they are not. The standard MERS/Stern complaint contains a lie about this very subject. While the title of the standard complaint makes reference to “lost loan documents,” in the body of the standard complaint, the Defendant Firm alleges that the plaintiff is the “owner and holder” of the note and mortgage. Both cannot be true unless the words used are given new meanings. With the oversight of Defendant Merscorp and its unknown principals, the MERS artifice and enterprise evolved into an “ultra-fictitious” entity, which can also be understood as a “meta-corporation.” To perpetuate the scheme, MERS was and is used in a way so that to the average consumer, or even legal professional, can never determine who or what was or is ultimately receiving the benefits of any mortgage payments. The conspirators set about to confuse everyone as to who owned what. They created a truly effective smokescreen which has left the public and most of the judiciary operating “in the dark” through the present time. Video about 62 million homeowners being foreclosure proof. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1020911 United States 08/22/2010 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | don't want the bad karma of knowing I'm going to get my house for free because of some stupid loophole, even if houses are overpriced. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1071335YOU chose to sign the dotted line to buy the house at a specified price. Deal with it. Motherfucker! What other people do is none of your business! I'd be willing to bet if I hired a private dick to investigate you, he'd find all sorts of unrighteous deeds, acts, and unlawful/illegal actions you've done over the course of your lifetime. SHILL! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 590644 United States 09/30/2010 12:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: Get rid of the money system, then get rid of goverrments (Page 20) Allonge and Stellionate Quoting: Levi Philos 590644These are terms associated with financial crimes (stellionate is selling the same thing to more than one buyer); allonge is a tracking document usually attached to a bill of exchange. We may hear more of this with the MERS mess and with the multiple paper claims on commodities - especially the metal gold. You may wish to acquaint yourself with these terms. Here is one hit for allonge: [link to www.wisegeek.com] One of many hits for stellionate: [link to legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1101368 United States 09/30/2010 01:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I bought a house I could not afford, so I stopped paying. Now I can afford to get all the beer and cigarettes I need. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 861225Does this mean I can continue to live in my house for free while my neighbor is paying for their house? go tell your neighbor he'll prolly buy you a keg or 33 |