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THE US CYBER COMMAND AND THE PERFECT CITIZEN PROJECT

 
Cypher  (OP)

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it's a bigger story than folks seem to realize
and may even cause a rush on the banks
by Monday or Tuesday at the latest.

here's an article to give you the aussie view

[link to www.brisbanetimes.com.au]
September 19, 2010

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CYBER STORM will play out on business, government and intelligence agency computer screens here and overseas, testing their ability to respond to co-ordinated attacks on the systems underpinning almost every aspect of society.


Architects of the drill, co-ordinated by the Attorney-General's Department, will not outline the cyber game scenario, organised by the US Department of Homeland Security.

Officials were concerned about maintaining the exercise's security, a department spokesman told The Sunday Age. Nor would he say when the exercise begins, although The Sunday Age believes it is imminent.

read entire article at link above or original
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[link to www.theage.com.au]


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The inference in that article is that
the drill named CYBER STORM will occur in the US not
just downunder.

My guess is that the plans for this were
drawn up at least a decade ago
for the details of this supposed drill to be surfacing now.

and perhaps I am reading too much into this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 776413

Wow..first I've heard of that..thanks for the heads up..

Cyber Storms I and II, in 2006 and 2008, resulted in virtual chaos. The first was based on a scenario in which a coalition of anti-globalisation activists attacked US and Canadian computer systems. The attacks cut power supplies, disrupted ports and airlines, and compromised intelligence communications.

[link to www.theage.com.au]
Anonymous Coward
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09/18/2010 07:31 PM
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well.....it is gonna get real interesting....in about 2-3 months...the push back is happening...
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"C.I.L. my landlord"
Anonymous Coward
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09/18/2010 07:47 PM
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So Skynet IS real.. Interesting.
 Quoting: Marquis de Moran


what do you think is up there. shiny lights. The friggin militarys have been placing skynet weapons up there for decades.
Anonymous Coward
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09/18/2010 07:50 PM
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you try hacking thru malmwarebytes-full version with protection modules, along side COMODO security suite switched to on access virus protection and paranoid security mode.
Anonymous Coward
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09/18/2010 07:51 PM
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you try hacking thru malmwarebytes-full version with protection modules, along side COMODO security suite switched to on access virus protection and paranoid security mode.
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09/18/2010 08:01 PM
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you try hacking thru malmwarebytes-full version with protection modules, along side COMODO security suite switched to on access virus protection and paranoid security mode.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1102289


You really think that weak ass shit can stop a top dog hacker? You better think again.. LOLOL

Who the fuck do you think makes these programs for you to use? HACKERS, IDIOT!


Damn kids these days. Can't teach them anything.
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09/18/2010 08:08 PM
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Wonder if the Chase site being down for a while was part of the "exercise" or part of the hacking?
Anonymous Coward
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09/18/2010 08:17 PM
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And so it begins...damned
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09/18/2010 08:21 PM
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Here's what there gonna do. They're gonna say a terrorist broadcasts a message that is executed on everybody's pda, laptop, desktop, cell phone, psp, television and all other devices that a man is controlling the world wide web and that the message was broadcasted 4 hours previous to the one people actually see and say all terrorists have commanded viewers to shut dodwn all internet services or be apart of us. The government will say everyone is a criminal to the nation and martial law is declared and all income is depleted so China will invade and collect there debt. Everyone will get the death penalty. The only people that will survive are a group of 5 million names that will be selected based on there life to be full time slaves and the elite powers that be. The nephilim will than move here and kill the elite to make a utopia for themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1060269

And to ensure security, this one man will cause everyone to recieve a mark on their right hand or on their forehead...
Truthseekr

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09/18/2010 08:22 PM
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lets do it! force us to evolve from using these old machines
Cypher  (OP)

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09/18/2010 09:11 PM
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lets do it! force us to evolve from using these old machines
 Quoting: Truthseekr

..so you actually think the Criminals behind Agenda 21 have the average persons well being in mind? Are you serious?
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Is the NSA's 'Perfect Citizen' the Ultimate Spying Tool?

July 13, 2010

Could the NSA's new "Perfect Citizen" actually be used for spying on every citizen in the U.S.?

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The next step: no more privacy?
If Perfect Citizen really is a series of sensors that monitor cyber-attacks, it's easy to envision how this same network could be used for monitoring everyday citizens.

With any NSA program, communication is a one-way street, noted Nigam. There won't be any new official information about the Perfect Citizen program, so it's left to the experts to hypothesize about what it really is -- and the true nature of the program, he says.

They have. And they're worried about what the NSA is planning.

For starters, there's a Wired.com report that claims the NSA has teamed with Homeland Security to get around any legal entanglements, hinting at a justification for spying on U.S. citizens.
And a story in The Economist declares a new cyberwar that involves secret cyber-weapons and cyber-armies from Iran, North Korea, and Russia attacking utility companies and the grid.

[link to www.foxnews.com]
 Quoting: Cypher


ahhhhh.. Folks, I hate to bring this to your attention BUT. Have you taken a look around your cities lately? Really looked at who's sitting next to you in teh restaurants and cafes, going to college with your kids. Does the word - Chinese - mean anything to you. (not to mention the absolute BUTLOAD of Russians that immigrated after the wall fell.

There's a reason, OBVIOUSLY why they friggin want to spy. Because they have NO FRIGGIN idea who they FRIGGIN let into the country!!!!!!!!!

But, I believe they might be getting a clue....

and of course, they are crapping in their shorts - because they have been naive and foolish in just sooooo many ways - It's almost comical -of course if it wasn't sooo PATHETIC! HA!
Anonymous Coward
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09/18/2010 09:43 PM
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CNN says "it's simply not real......"

Means.......... ITS REAL FOLKS!!!!!!!!

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Cypher  (OP)

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Is the NSA's 'Perfect Citizen' the Ultimate Spying Tool?

July 13, 2010

Could the NSA's new "Perfect Citizen" actually be used for spying on every citizen in the U.S.?

<Snip>

The next step: no more privacy?
If Perfect Citizen really is a series of sensors that monitor cyber-attacks, it's easy to envision how this same network could be used for monitoring everyday citizens.

With any NSA program, communication is a one-way street, noted Nigam. There won't be any new official information about the Perfect Citizen program, so it's left to the experts to hypothesize about what it really is -- and the true nature of the program, he says.

They have. And they're worried about what the NSA is planning.

For starters, there's a Wired.com report that claims the NSA has teamed with Homeland Security to get around any legal entanglements, hinting at a justification for spying on U.S. citizens.
And a story in The Economist declares a new cyberwar that involves secret cyber-weapons and cyber-armies from Iran, North Korea, and Russia attacking utility companies and the grid.

[link to www.foxnews.com]


ahhhhh.. Folks, I hate to bring this to your attention BUT. Have you taken a look around your cities lately? Really looked at who's sitting next to you in teh restaurants and cafes, going to college with your kids. Does the word - Chinese - mean anything to you. (not to mention the absolute BUTLOAD of Russians that immigrated after the wall fell.

There's a reason, OBVIOUSLY why they friggin want to spy. Because they have NO FRIGGIN idea who they FRIGGIN let into the country!!!!!!!!!

But, I believe they might be getting a clue....

and of course, they are crapping in their shorts - because they have been naive and foolish in just sooooo many ways - It's almost comical -of course if it wasn't sooo PATHETIC! HA!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1100954

sort of funny you should blame the Russians and Chinese..you should read my Agenda 21 thread..just click on my user name and click on that thread ok? I'm sort of sure that probably at least 95% of the people on this particular forum (omitting the shills) think that our own government is corrupt..imo you sound REALLY naive..my .02
Anonymous Coward
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09/18/2010 09:45 PM
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It's it going to affect my World of Warcraft?
Anonymous Coward
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09/18/2010 09:50 PM
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What if everyone decided to ditch their computers and cellphones and say the Hell with the grid.
Anonymous Coward
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09/18/2010 09:57 PM
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If they wanted to da a cyber attaack wouldn't they just launch misiles from helecopters? It seems to me that this is just another big government program used by a corporation to drain more public taxes. Imagine the work force needed to spy on computer users. It would take a massive work force. Who the hell has money for tha?
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If they wanted to da a cyber attaack wouldn't they just launch misiles from helecopters? It seems to me that this is just another big government program used by a corporation to drain more public taxes. Imagine the work force needed to spy on computer users. It would take a massive work force. Who the hell has money for tha?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 879288
They don't care about the money.
Cypher  (OP)

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If they wanted to da a cyber attaack wouldn't they just launch misiles from helecopters? It seems to me that this is just another big government program used by a corporation to drain more public taxes. Imagine the work force needed to spy on computer users. It would take a massive work force. Who the hell has money for tha?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 879288

do they have a Canadian branch of Acorn?

[link to news.cnet.com]

SAN FRANCISCO--Ever since President Bush signed a secret cybersecurity directive two years ago, executive branch officials have been dropping hints about what might be in the highly classified document known as NSPD54.

Former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff once likened it to a new "Manhattan Project," and The Washington Post reported that the multibillion Comprehensive National Cybersecurity Initiative represented the "single largest request for funds" in last year's classified intelligence budget. A Homeland Security assistant secretary previously acknowledged there were "plans to expand" a network monitoring component, named Einstein, which has prompted protests by privacy advocates.

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There's not much in the way of details
, but those that are included are likely to raise questions about the role of the National Security Agency in network surveillance and how intent President Obama is on continuing some of the more controversial cybersecurity policies of his predecessor. After the Bush-era warrantless surveillance controversy, many politicians and civil libertarians have become wary of greater NSA involvement in network monitoring.

Last Edited by RTS on 09/18/2010 10:08 PM
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I guess its time for the citizens to take back the cuntry. Go to the town meetings and if certain people don't want any new buisnesses because they'd rather have green spaces. Out vote those people Teh government has to be taken back community by comunity, state by state. Don't complain to the government, I know from personal experienceit does no good. Complain to your local news papaers and other newspapers. Contake different organizations. Mind you alot of these organizations have been infiltrated like the poverty coilition. It doesn't do a damn thing.
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I don't know if it's related but WoW is runnin' like shit at the moment.
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If they wanted to da a cyber attaack wouldn't they just launch misiles from helecopters? It seems to me that this is just another big government program used by a corporation to drain more public taxes. Imagine the work force needed to spy on computer users. It would take a massive work force. Who the hell has money for tha?

do they have a Canadian branch of Acorn?

[link to news.cnet.com]

SAN FRANCISCO--Ever since President Bush signed a secret cybersecurity directive two years ago, executive branch officials have been dropping hints about what might be in the highly classified document known as NSPD54.

Former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff once likened it to a new "Manhattan Project," and The Washington Post reported that the multibillion Comprehensive National Cybersecurity Initiative represented the "single largest request for funds" in last year's classified intelligence budget. A Homeland Security assistant secretary previously acknowledged there were "plans to expand" a network monitoring component, named Einstein, which has prompted protests by privacy advocates.

<snip>

There's not much in the way of details
, but those that are included are likely to raise questions about the role of the National Security Agency in network surveillance and how intent President Obama is on continuing some of the more controversial cybersecurity policies of his predecessor. After the Bush-era warrantless surveillance controversy, many politicians and civil libertarians have become wary of greater NSA involvement in network monitoring.
 Quoting: Cypher


are you kidding. Its all about the gubberment who is controlled by the banksters elites to control the stupid population. Thats what 9-11 was all about and several other false flags the gubberment set up was all about. Control and containment of the stupid population.
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Cyber Storm II, the world's largest international cyber security exercise so far, ended on Friday (15 March 2008). Undoubtedly, the US Department of Homeland Security-sponsored event will report it as a resounding success and learning experience in its final report due in late summer.

The exercise, by the US Department of Homeland Security simulated a coordinated cyber attack on information technology, communications, chemical, and transportation systems and assets. It simulated a crash of the US and international telephone system which in turn caused problems for top level domains such as .com, .net and .gov.

more at..

[link to www.computerweekly.com]

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So we have NSA "Perfect Citizen".
and CIA's "Recorded Future", in cooperation with Google.

Any more legal (!) Big Brother control machines?

(Bureaucrats are Big Brother, the lower employees don't know it)

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It's it going to affect my World of Warcraft?
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This! If it effects your wow, you can play on my server till it comes back online.
If your happy and you know it clap your hands!
Cypher  (OP)

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So we have NSA "Perfect Citizen".
and CIA's "Recorded Future", in cooperation with Google.

Any more legal (!) Big Brother control machines?

(Bureaucrats are Big Brother, the lower employees don't know it)

yoda
 Quoting: Light Guard 1102238

thanks for that tip..I have never heard of "recorded future"

The investment arms of the CIA and Google are both backing a company that monitors the web in real time — and says it uses that information to predict the future.

The company is called Recorded Future, and it scours tens of thousands of websites, blogs and Twitter accounts to find the relationships between people, organizations, actions and incidents — both present and still-to-come. In a white paper, the company says its temporal analytics engine “goes beyond search” by “looking at the ‘invisible links’ between documents that talk about the same, or related, entities and events.”

The idea is to figure out for each incident who was involved, where it happened and when it might go down. Recorded Future then plots that chatter, showing online “momentum” for any given event.



more at ..

[link to www.wired.com]

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In a few years it won't matter anyway. According to wikipedia, most experts think we have passed the oil peak. Skeptics think it won't happen for another 10 years. Actually 8 years because the skeptic said it in 2008.
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Idol1 bump yoda
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It took some courage for me to admit online right now that I have been following this thread and your comments and I agree with you 100 percent...wonderful post Cypher!

p.s. I hope you understand what I mean! cool2
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bsflag,,The U.S. Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) National Cyber Security Division (NCSD) successfully executed Cyber Storm, the first national cyber exercise Feb. 6 thru Feb. 10, 2006. The exercise was the first government-led, full-scale cyber security exercise of its kind..





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