Why they jumped from the WTC on 9/11? The riddle solved.

I didnt know that.

I had thought some had slipped, or their hands may have burned.

I thought it was a choice of burning to death..or being a star for a few weeks on rotten or ogrish.

I would have chosen the latter too...

Better to go out with a messy SPLAT..than to die horribly with a fizzle and be buried in rubble as nothing but dust.

Makes sense to me. Must be true.

wow.

so basically in a high rise fire there is nothing you can do other than die.

In most fires, it doesn't consume the whole floor. So if you're in another part of the building even though the fire is below you, you could survive with no injuries.

I would have slit my wrists with the nearest sharp object and bleed to death rather than jump. Now-a-days if I were to work in a skyscraper, I'd always keep a packed parachute in the file cabinet.

some guy just survived like a 39 story fall or something in New York

Who one starred this! WTF.

Clearly this is why they should keep base jumping parachutes with the fire extinguishers in all high rise buildings.
But forget about logic in this illogical world it doesn't matter.

"It's like the reaction you have when you touch a hot stove or from an electric shock."

Actually, psychology has shown that the initial touch on a hot stove doesn't result in a reflexive action.

That's nice to know. I hope you're not trying to imply that you leave your hand on a hot stove. I'm guessing that you yank your hand back really, really fast like everyone else does.

And you do understand how a person who felt sudden fire close to them would jump out of their skin, don't you? No they don't actually jump out of their skin. It just feels like it.

If this is the case Mr Einstein, then how can people set fire to themselves?

It's elementary, Watson.

It's the rare person who can do that. And in each case, they have prepared themselves for it. If you were to put the same person in a building and there was a sudden fire, they would react the same way as everyone else because they hadn't gotten themselves in a "zone" mentally.

Last Edited by AwthrAwthr on 09/07/2010 03:01 AM

this is an interesting idea. it would require employees to take massive amounts of training. such a jump is difficult and especially with the building under fire with hundreds of other jumpers and in an area where panic is running through the streets. (imagine the emergency drills.)

You're not very smart, are you?

If the media would show the photos and video (they have imposed censorship on themselves) you would see that many of the victims were hanging by the windows in order to get fresh air. So they were already in a position where their reaction away from the fire would send them into the air falling to their deaths.

If a person were not in the window, their reaction might throw them against a wall or a desk or whatever. So no, the reaction doesn't throw you towards a window - it throws you AWAY from the fire.

Obviously, seeking a window is what people would do BEFORE the fire got too close.

BTW, my original message was to post the experience of someone who actually went through it. It comports with what we do when we feel a match, or a stove, or a hot pan.

Imagine that painful heat or fire not just on your finger or hand but on your whole body. Do you really think you'd ponder it, or would you react?

Last Edited by AwthrAwthr on 09/07/2010 12:40 PM

I've not seen one jumper with flames coming off them or smoke.

Did you see: "The lady in the khaki pants"?

Or, "The man holding the cellphone, shirtless"?

Or, "Those that held hands and jumped together"?

There is no riddle to be solved. You can't just apply a broad brush to each individual's situation.

Silly thread.

One star.

Have you ever stood close to a bonfire? You can be a few feet away and it feels great. But move a couple inches closer and it's like "ouch!" You don't catch on fire from the heat that precedes the actual flame. But it's so damn hot that you immediately move away. Multiply that experience by 10 or 100 times in intensity.

I also said that some might have jumped as a conscious decision. But you're such a moran or jerk that you've ignored that.

There were many who fell to their deaths. The media stopped showing those almost immediately. If someone were actually on fire falling do you think they would have shown that? Hell no, they would not.

If you were leaning out the window for air when the painful heat shocked you, you would let go in an instant. Your body would also be repelled jerking away from the heat. And out the window you would go. Not because you wanted to, but because your body threw you out.

Another thing to keep in mind is that most the people who died were trapped above where the planes hit.

I heard one cell phone call where the caller said his feet were feeling hot. He was practically crying when he said it.

So there was no flame at that point - just incredible heat. If you've ever walked barefoot on hot blacktop, how long does it take you to pick your foot up from the hot surface. The floors were hotter than that. So the people would have been jumping out of their skin.

Last Edited by AwthrAwthr on 09/07/2010 01:37 PM

+1 and OP Thx much appreciated

This post made me sad. I have never seen what you are talking about and I dont want to.


Can you imagine being on the other end of the phone?

Can you imagine being the child of the two jumping?

Can you imagine seeing your wife in those pants she bought last week... the ones she asked if she looked good in.. can you imagine seeing those pants float to the ground with your angel?

I dont see the point of talking about these people... there are few. These few people like this.

one star for you OP. I dont care about your opinion on the riddle of those who jumped/fell to their deaths.

I think it's important for people to understand that most of those who fell to their deaths were not jumpers committing suicide. Many reacted or were unintentionally pushed by others hanging out the same window in a chain reaction to the heat.

The suicide meme has been put out there, but it's not true in most cases.

How horrible.

I still can't believe I thought it was paper. My brain simply could not cope with it being people.

I hope that if this was a fight or flight response, that they were in such a state of delirium that they didn't know or feel anything.

What about the woman stepping out on the edge of the 757 whole in the North Tower?

She seemed quite calm considering that the heat was forcing others to jump.

Get to work at 9:00 and before the hour is up you are jumping out the window.

If you were pushed, jumped knowingly or as a reaction to the heat/flame it was the last choice anyone would make who was in those buildings that day.

God Bless.

i read somewhere most people die from a heart attack before they actually hit the ground..

Well that is clearly bollocks as then skydivers would all die of heart attacks...

Several of those people had notes to their families when the bodies were recovered. They had time to make a choice and time to make some last minute notes before jumping.
I have been burned, and can say almost anything would be better than burning to death. Also those that had the mindset to think and make notes or cell calls chose the better path after considering their alternatives. Many probably even considered not having their bodies recovered if they didn't leave that blazing inferno, and chose to have something to bury over nothing at all for their families.

No matter what they chose, the 9/11 travesty was about GOLD. When billions in gold are at stake, body count doesn't matter.
It is irrelevant why they jumped or not. It relevant why those towers were demoed. And also where did those billions in gold go as it was not recovered.

I did say it was about GOLD didn't I GOLD people! How do you make billions in GOLD disappear right under watching eyes? Demo the buildings above those vaults and kill thousands.
As is with any magic show, if you see the smoke, you missed the slide of hand.

The GOLD fact always stops the threads as so many are too blind to see the truth. Probably due to the glistening of the light reflecting off the GOLD