++I AM A EXTRA TERRESTRIAL++ ASK ME A QUESTION AND I WILL RESPOND++

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VVizz

I agree on the LHC, the Lucifer project, Hydrogen bombing of the Arctic ( 9 I beleieve there were)? Why did they do it? Arrogance and stupidity?

Wy do you think you are the toilet lady? I thought that was my job all these years. PLO... permanent latrine orderly.

I have cats too. I worry about what will happen to them.

Where will you go? Where did you come from?

Take care

((hugs))

Wispy

Greetings ST...

I had a message this morning.( @ 400 I think,)

It started with the short lines coming in from the west, diagonally. ( Storms/winds?) Then there was what appeared like volcanoes awakening and "fumes"/clouds of fumes covering the area. I felt as though I had trouble breathing when the clouds appeared.

The thought I had was that toxic/hazardous fumes would be released into the atmosphere and we would suffocate.

Then something happened @ 930. I do not know if it was a message or imagination. But first I saw red. Then it looked like a playing card.. 9 of Hearts. I have no idea what that stands for if anything. 9 Days 9 weeks 9 months ?

Then the card disappeared and the air looked like it was dissolving. Breaking apart. Like raining inside. Like the Diagonal lines of above .. Only more horizontal. Sheets and sheets of them. Like reality was dissolving.

I have no clue.

((hugs))

Wispy

Hey ST, tomorrow is december 21 :O all this speculation about this date has got my friend jumbled up,
so the only way to survive would be to dig a really big hole and cover yourself up

or be rescued :D ! I hope i can be saved I really want to finish growing up and finish my business if i'm not ready for 4th density yet! Thats a really big question to ask but I live Near the vancouver region of british columbia, canada (just incase heehe) I have some friends who could come along too! haha

do you have a private email I could send you a message on?

I had the most interesting experience!!

I'm not jumbled up.

There are two paths.

I'm walking the ascension path.

You might have spent too much time filling your head with crap instead of preparing yourself for 4D life & beyond.

Such things can not be tolerated.

When a teenager plays with a gun,
You take it away, and spank his butt.

There are limits.



Because we handle much sh.t
and we receive sh.t as reward,
by those who create the sh.t



Yes, I do it too. I was living in the woods,
but now, I am living more close to people,
including roads. Difficult to release them,
with all danger of dogs, cars and people.



I worry too for them.
Maybe the Feline race will accept them. After all, they are pretty hairy. As I am.
Zeta are not common with hair.
I like it, taste, I guess.

I worry too for all animals on Earth.
They did nothing wrong.
They do always receive the suffer and pain.
For the lack of responsibility of Humans.



This information is secured, locked, sealed.
To protect myself in a broad sense.



Thanks, today, I needed those ((hugs))

It can be so beautifull, but they make it such a mess.
They can't manage a beautiful planet in responsibility.
They can't take care for all people, animals, plants etc. on Earth.
Romance are relationships are almost a joke.
And the path of a profound relationship
or to live true spirituality is for most,
currently unreachable.
Sometimes it was easier to work.
With partners, with support.
Now, this is broken a lot. Too.
Dark forces are strong.
Anyway.

I talk too much, have too much focus now.
I turn off the mic.
In this treat of ST in BG.
To You, ST in BG.

All the Best,

VVizz of Ur

None Can Hide What They ARE VVizz and that's include MOI and YOU.

Yolgnu.

Hi Wispy,

Got 5 cats and one Dog here lost my little bird ...!

They are my best Friends and I will protect them at all Cost...!

AnyWay...!

Yolgnu.

Hi ST in BG, S who C, et. al.,

There are many who visit here ocassionally or regularly who consider themselves to be “WATCHMEN” for their community or friends.

In days of old one person was given the responsibility to sit on a tower and watch for potential enemies. When he saw a cloud of dust in the distance, it was his responsibility to alert the workers in the fields below, whether it was a maurading army or friendly traders. A wrong call could mean many hours of planting or harvesting lost, or worse, the loss of some of the workers to slavers.

In the year 1000, many in Europe thought the world would end and so farmers did not plant. As a result many starved.

My father passed on 35 years ago at the age of 84, sure that he would be raptured before he died. Didn’t happen.

In my life, I have seen hundreds of individuals perdicting the end of the world or other false doom.

Mostly, the WATCHMEN just wait, not wanting to call out a false alarm. We prepare in what little way we can but the perdiction of Nibiru is so huge, that all we can do is continue on like S who C says, and then when it becomes obvious to all, attempt to calm and console the fearful by letting them know that they will be transitioned in one way or another. That there will be new 4th dimensional bodies ready for them at the proper time. As the Apostle John said: “I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away...” Rev 21

Otherwise if told too early, like ST in BG says: “many will go insane or act insanely”

no need to worry , its now the 21st and nothing to dramatic is occuring as of now , but the day isnt over yet, i don't think their is no way to worry, besides you won't be able to survive if you did that anyways.

******
VVizz

I know what you mean. Like having 100 malls within driving distance and someone has to bulldoze a beautiful field or woods to build one more. Paved paradise and put up a parking lot.

I do not understand. It brings sorrow to my heart. Pave beautiful area that can produce flowers or food and good land.. and avoid land fit for not much else. Were do they think food will come from? Not the desert without water.

I worry for the animals too. I cannot bear the thoughts of how some are mis-treated. Yet because man is so corrupt and greedy and cannot share, the animals are homeless and starve.

I have 4 acres. Mostly 3 I leave in woods. There is a spring/creek behind the woods. I have seen quail, turkeys, deer back there and coyotes. The birds sing around the creek in the summer. They stay in the hedge rows in the winter. Squirrels run all over the place. And there are a few rabbits and voles and moles (lol).. burrowing like moles. But they aerate the soil. But anyway. I talk too much too. I try to leave a habitat for them. And the squirrels heist all the black walnuts, eat the pears and apples, and share the peaches..hehe.. I get one or two. Rabbits heist the bean sprouts and the raccoons help themselves to the corn.. little rascals.Now I know why they have masks... little bandits..

Anyway. I worry about the animals too.

I do not understand the hate in this world. There is so much beauty. I try to keep wildflowers for the butterflies and te bees. But I just like the flowers. But seems many business persons only like concrete.

And people.. I just do not know. It is like I am from one planet and they from another.They are oblivious. And I guess I am too to many things. But if you try to explain things to a "liberal" .. my my.. they would argue with a fence post.

Oh well. Do not dispair. Brighten the corner were you are. Maybe it will spread. Kind of like.. when I go to the grocery store. I look into people's eyes and smile. Especially one who looks unhappy. Amazing.. they brighten up and smile too.

((hugs))

Wispy

ST

I have a question.

Have you read the things posted by one named 535? There is a thread entitled 535 the definitive thread.

Thread: 535 The definitive thread.

535 Has many unsettling thoughts given. Like he is in control and all of this business has fallen into place as planned. That the agenda is to save humanity. etc.

And get rid of the Constitution, law, guns, and people will be herded into facilities for their own protection.

OK.. Then he says that Pollyannuh is his kind of person and wishes there were more like her.

DUH.. ST.. Pollyannuh is a ditz. A brainwashed, sheep- dipped liberal sheeple. Not a rational thought in her head.

I guess I must be a goat then. Not worth saving.But if 535 is telling te truth.. all they want is sheeple.

What is the truth to 535 ... please?

((hugs))

Wispy

I've read some of his posts too Wispy. They scare me a bit. Maybe I'm too easily scared. I'm still afraid of what's really going to happen to the world. Is this all a trick? I don't like to believe so.

"will be herded into facilities for their own protection."


This is Part of one vision I got Wispy... Peoples in line going to facilities but not for protection...!


In those facilities bodies parts are cut-out for other use, and their functions replaced, like an advanced dialysis machine, for the various systems in there and elsewhere very disturbing to see...AnyWay.

with 535 you need to understand his Double Meaning ...! AnyWay...

I was talking to a OLD Whale(Cetacean) in that Vision...!

He was in the ocean water and remember that the water was very toxic with a brown-Black color...!

AnyWay...!

Yolgnu.

I do not know Anon 598. This is first I have read this stuff. It does not jive with ST.

But this 535 says there is a coming disaster. But he does not say what. If it is the sun.. he does not give reasonable thoughts other than it is dead. Well.. no one will survive that.

If he is talking Nibiru... which I think he is.. I do not see it succeding. Perhaps it is a shot after the first passage. But what I see in the "visions".. it won't help anything for long.

So. I do not know. It is obviously a depopulation ploy. But that has been the madman's aim for a long time. Perhaps it is to survive some biological attack.. like the "bird flu". More to this than what he says. Or just may be disinformation. He said he was into psy-ops.

There are Higher powers at work. Don't worry.Just be prepared. Best you or anyone else can do.

((hugs))

Wispy

ello Yolgnu..

Poor whale. Think it was petrochemicals from the sky or oil leaks? It is a crime how the oceans have been treated. And the poor creatures that live there.

When I go to SC. I love to see the dolpins playing. I think the cetaceans are very intelligent. I once started to work on my PhD in marine Biology at the University of South Carolina. Had the scholarship and all. But I didn't go. Made other plans. Oh well.

I have 12 cats. 1 dog. Used to have 26 cats and 12 dogs several years ago. Oh well. I think I must have been the local Humane society then. Seems like everyone thought I needed one more pet to feed. lol.

Like you Yolgnu. I think he is telling the truth.. to a point. But like you say.. there is a hook. Someting is not right. He says one thing.. then a little later... says something to contradict.

As to not being fit with RFID. They know where we are anyway. I have suspected that we all have implants somewhere.

Have there been anymore actions out of Mt Royal lately? The weather has been icy with high winds and snow in the North. I just don't know. I have the feeling that the sand is running out of the clock. It is an unsettling, restless feeling.

((hugs))

Wispy

ST,
Plese tell me why am I the only person who seems to notice that the sun is not where it should be on Dec 21st. I have an unobstructed view of the western horizon I see the sun set every day of the year. Dec 21st the sun USED to set behind a small mountain on the southwest horizon, this year the sun is no where near that mountain. The sun should be much further south. At this rate on June 21st the sun is going to be setting in the NORTH. Please comment, I am not insane I know what I see and it isnt right.

Yup.. Too far North here too. Almost due west. Not supposed to be there until March. Moon like wise was due East a few nights ago.

Wispy

Greetings: NightWisp: User ID: 11585

Greetings ST...

I had a message this morning.( @ 4:00 (A.M.) I think,) (Saturday: December 20, 2008)

It started with the short lines coming in from the west,
diagonally. (Storms/winds?)

**Yes ... Storms/Winds ... Propelled/Containing ... Being Caused By "Outside Generated/Influenced Forces" !!

Then there was what appeared like volcanoes
awakening and "fumes"/clouds of fumes covering the area. I felt as though I had trouble breathing when the clouds appeared.

**Oh No Doubt !! ... As In Visions Given To The Conduit ... Many Volcanoes Will Come Awake ... Reawaken Onto The Surface ... From Below !! ... And Many More ... Not Known ... & New/Newer ... Will Arise ... From Beneath The Surface ... Breaking Through The Crust ... That One Walks On !! ... & Indeed !! ... When These Volcanoes Explode ... Or Simply "Outgas" ... Or Of Ash In The Air ... & Other Things ... You Would Have (If You Were Closeby) ... Such Difficulties In Breathing !!

The thought I had was that toxic/hazardous fumes would be
released into the atmosphere and we would suffocate.

**That Is A Possibility ... For Those Residing By/Near A Volcano !! ... As The Conduit Was Shown ... Given The Idea ... That Many People ... Will Die ... Right In Their Homes !! ... And To Go Outside In The Ash ... (And
Perhaps Fumes !!) ... Is To Invite Certain Death ... With Adequate Breathing Protections !!

Then something happened @ 9:30. (A.M.) I do not know if it was a message or imagination. But first I saw red. Then it looked like a playing card.. 9 of Hearts.

**Hmmmm !!! ... 9 Of Hearts !!!

I have no idea what that stands for if anything. 9 Days 9 weeks 9 months ?

**Well Lets See !! ... 9 Days (From Your Vision On: Saturday: December 20th Is ... Monday: December 29, 2008 !! .... 9 Weeks From: December 20, 2008 Is ... 9 Saturday's Ahead ... Which Makes This ... February 28, 2008 !! ... And 9 Months Make This ... September 2009 !!

Then the card disappeared and the air looked like it was
dissolving. Breaking apart. Like raining inside.

**Now That Is Strange !!! ... Perhaps Being Renewed ... Recreated !! ... Such As The Atmosphere Being Changed ... Healed ... Recreated !!

Like the Diagonal lines of above .. Only more horizontal. Sheets and sheets of them. Like reality was dissolving.

**Hmmm !! ... Well ... Of That "Artificial Reality" ... Yes It Would !!

I have no clue.

**Well ... Perhaps We A Few Clues ... To Help You Out !!
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ST

I have a question.

Have you read the things posted by one named 535? There is a thread entitled 535 the definitive thread.

**No We Have Not !! ... Will Look At This !!

**Thread Titled: 535 The definitive thread.

Thread: 535 The definitive thread.

**Hmmm !!! ... Curious Information !!

535 Has many unsettling thoughts given. Like he is in control and all of this business has fallen into place as planned. That the agenda is to save humanity. etc.

**Hmmmm !!!

And get rid of the Constitution, law, guns, and people will be herded into facilities for their own protection.

**Hmmm !!

OK.. Then he says that Pollyannuh is his kind of person and
wishes there were more like her.

**Most Interesting !!!

DUH.. ST.. Pollyannuh is a ditz. A brainwashed, sheep- dipped liberal sheeple. Not a rational thought in her head.

**Well .... ????

I guess I must be a goat then. Not worth saving.

**A Super Goat !! ... Wears The Big Red Cape ... With SG In Gold Lettering (Like Superman) !! ... Hee Hee Heee !!

But if 535 is telling the truth.. all they want is sheeple.

**IF" ... They Are Telling The Truth !!

What is the truth to 535 ... please?

**We Are Just Going To Say ... At The Moment ... The Information Is Curious & Interesting !!
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**In Response To: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 550598 ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

I do not know Anon 598. This is first I have read this stuff. It does not jive with ST.

**Yes ... This Is A First For Us Too !! ... And Many Things ... Are Falling Under "Assumptions" ... Beliefs Based On ... "Their Understandings & "Reality" ... Of Given Situations !!!

But this 535 says there is a coming disaster. But he does not say what. If it is the sun.. he does not give reasonable thoughts other than it is dead. Well.. no one will survive that.

**Yes ... Rather Vague In Saying ... Of What Coming Disaster !! .... Well "Sol" The Sun/Star In Your System ... Is Not Dying ... It Is Phasing/Evolving !!

If he is talking Nibiru... which I think he is.. I do not see it succeeding.

**Could Be ?? ... But Then If "He" Is ... These Are Plans ... Which Will Not Come Into Fruition ... That Will Not Come About !!

Perhaps it is a shot after the first passage. But what I see in the "visions".. it won't help anything for long.

**Yes ... Futile Attempts !!

So. I do not know. It is obviously a depopulation ploy.

**Or Just Simply ... Plans/Thoughts ... & Perhaps Even ... Disinformation !!

But that has been the madman's aim for a long time.

**Yes It Has !!

Perhaps it is to survive some biological attack.. like the "bird flu".

**Well There Has Been Experimentation In ... Biogenetic Warfare !! ... That Is ... Creating Certain Illnesses ... Certain Germs ... That Will Seek Out ... Certain Genetic Markers Of Individuals ... Of People/Races That Have
These !! ... While Leaving The Others Alone !! ... The "Bird Flu" ... Is One Of Many Attempts ... Things Either Purposely ... Let Loose In The World ... Or Accidentally Let Loose ... From One Source ... Being Plum Island (Off New York/New York City & Manhattan Island !!) ... Which Was (Under The Covers Of A "Disease Investigation Laboratory") ... A Biological Weapons Laboratory ... To Be Used Against "National Enemies" ... & Well As The Public/Citizens !!!

More to this than what he says.

**Oh Much Much More !!

Or just may be disinformation. He said he was into psy-ops.

**Yes !! ... Or A Mix Of Informations !!!

There are Higher powers at work.

**Indeed There Are !!

Don't worry.Just be prepared. Best you or anyone else can do.

**Yes Indeed !!

((hugs))

Wispy

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: sasha: User ID: 190758

ST you said in the E-**** that you think Nibiru is close ,
wouldn't you know that it is close?

**We Know Where It Is !!

Also i was wondering wouldn't you as a ET group know about the speculations i had , that i discussed in the E-**** rather than stating that it was written somewhere, but shouldn't you know as you see everything for what it TRULY IS?

**We Know ... Just Prefer To Direct Our Energies Elsewhere !!

well later my friend and thanks for being a friend,

Josh.

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

i thought 9 was a Human number? representing Human beings?/....

Well ST.. It could have been the 10 or 8 of hearts. But I thought it was 9. Hubby turned the lights on just then and I closed my eyes . All I saw was the after image. Then I told him to turn the light off. When he did, I just had a glimpse of the image and then the "air' started to shift.

Did you guys send this message or was this my imagination?

Thank you

((Hugs))

Wispy

Greetings: VVizz: User ID: 576132

Sorry ST to interfere so much in Your treat. It is not my intention to divert focus.

**You Were Doing Fine !! ... Actually ... An "Interesting" Read !!
___________________________________________________________

I talk too much, have too much focus now.

**Well ... Lots Of Things Are Happening !!

I turn off the mic.

In this treat of ST in BG.

**It Is Well !! ... You Were Expressing ... Of These Deep Concerns !! ... And The Thoughts Being Given ... Were Most Valuable !!

To You, ST in BG.

All the Best,

**Thank You Very Kindly !! ... And To You ... All The Best !!

VVizz of Ur

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 2993

ST,

Please tell me why am I the only person who seems to notice that the sun is not where it should be on Dec 21st.

**You Are Not The "Only One" ... Who Notices These Things !!

I have an unobstructed view of the western horizon I see the sun set every day of the year. Dec 21st the sun USED to set behind a small mountain on the southwest horizon, this year the sun is no where near that mountain.

**Hmmm !!!

The sun should be much further south.

At this rate on June 21st the sun is going to be setting in the NORTH. Please comment,

I am not insane I know what I see and it isn't right.

**You Have Complete Sanity !! ... As The "Position Of The Planet" ... In Relationship To The Known ... Celestial Phenomena ... Has Changed !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: NightWisp: User ID: 291

Yup.. Too far North here too. Almost due west. Not supposed to be there until March. Moon like wise was due East a few nights ago.

**Oh Yes !! ... Do To ... Positional Changing ... & Of This ... Changing The Perceptual View !!
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Well ST.. It could have been the 10 or 8 of hearts.

**Hmmm !!!

But I thought it was 9.

**Well ... It Could Have Been !! ... Representing Part Of The Orbital Passage Of Nibiru !! ... Look At The Base Of The "9" Figure ... On The Left ... Coming In From The South ... From The Left ... Making A Swing
Around ... Crossing Over To The Right ... & Then Making A 2nd Passage Outbound !! ... Of Which ... The 1st Passage Route ... (Before The Crossing Over ... On The Return) ... Is Emphasized !!!

Hubby turned the lights on just then and I closed my eyes
. All I saw was the after image.

**Hmmm !!!

Then I told him to turn the light off. When he did, I just had a glimpse of the image and then the "air' started to
shift.

**Oh Very Very VERY Curious !!!

Did you guys send this message or was this my imagination?

**"WE" ... That Is Of Us ... & Our Associates ... Sent The Message !! ... To Prepare !! ... Not Long !!

Thank you

You Are Very Welcome !!

((Hugs))

Wispy

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: Laddy: User ID: 564541

Hey ST, tomorrow is December 21 :

**If That Moment ... It Is Of Your "Today" !!

O all this speculation about this date has got my friend jumbled up, so the only way to survive would be to dig a really big hole and cover yourself up

**No ... Not That Way !!

or be rescued :D !

**An Option !!

I hope i can be saved

**Yes Of Course !!

I really want to finish growing up and finish my business if i'm not ready for 4th density yet!

**You May Not Have Those Choices !! ... Depends On ... What Is Agreed To ... What Is Needed !!

That's a really big question to ask but I live Near the Vancouver region of British Columbia, Canada (just in case heehe) I have some friends who could come along too! haha

**If It Is To Happen ... It Will Happen !!

do you have a private email I could send you a message on?

**We Have An E-Mail Address !! ... However Messages Are Not Often ... Immediately Responded To !! ... Much Easier To Reach Us Through Here !!

I had the most interesting experience!!

**Hmmm !! ... Sounds Curious !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: i is that which i is: User ID: 342515

Hi ST in BG, S who C, et. al.,

Otherwise if told too early, (About Nibiru & The Changes) like ST in BG says: "many will go insane or act insanely"

**They Will Go Mad !! ... Go Insane !! ... Or Seem To Be ... From Observations !! ... As Their Own "Controlling Methods" ... To Keep The Public ... In The Dark ... About This Event ... These Changes/Happenings ... May & Could ... Very Well Backfire ... Upon The Very Ones ... Who Kept This Information Secret & Hidden !! ... The Main Fear Is ... If This Knowledge Leaks Out ... & Starts Literally ... A Wildfire Across The Globe ... Of Madness ... Of Death & Destructions ... Even BEFORE ... The Preliminary Events/Changes To Happen ... & Even BEFORE ... Nibiru Makes It's 1st Passage !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

ST,
Thank you for responding to my comment about the sun. I was trying to wrap my mind around how this could happen, the only way is for the position of the Earth to have moved in relation to the normal orbit around the sun. I swear it is like the Earth slowed down and we are about 2 months behind where we should be based on the position of the sun on the western horizon. I dunno but thanks again.

Greetings: S. who C.: User ID: 576432

Hi everyone there,

Perhaps intriguing, perhaps not so much... links:

CME/explosion on the far side of SOL: large one?!

BREAKING!!..EXPLOSION ON THE FAR SIDE OF THE SUN

Spaceweather.com

[link to www.spaceweather.com]

(perhaps useful):

Solar Cycle 24.com

[link to www.solarcycle24.com]

Nibiru quoted on NASA web page:

N.A.S.A.: Eye On Ames ... Where is NASA Ames appearing on the Web?

[link to www.nasa.gov]

And the quoted link on NASA page

Discovery Channel: Armageddon from Planet Nibiru in 2012? Not So Fast by David Morrison

[link to dsc.discovery.com]

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quotes on the last link and some +comments from S. who C.:

Armageddon from Planet Nibiru in 2012? Not So Fast
by David Morrison

**A Most Obvious ... "Debunking" Article !!

Some conspiracy theorists believe ancient Sumerian people
discovered a planet called "Nibiru" beyond Pluto that will doom Earth in 2012. Scientists, however, beg to differ. Credit: Wikimedia Commons

+ hmmmm... and... what scientist do actually even consider this? hmmmm, most are working on other things.

**Well ... Take The Information For What It Is Worth !! ... Read It From The "Point Of View" ... Of One(s) ... That Are Presenting The Information ... Solely To Debunk ... To Make Such Ideas & Those That Believe ... That Know ... Look Silly !! ... When Actually ... The Ones Who Are "Silly" (A More Polite Expression !!) ... Are The Debunkers Themselves ... Who Know ... But Are Assigned/Paid ... To Ridicule & Attack/Dissuade Those ... Who Might "Set Fire" To An Unawakened Populace ... Causing The Very Madness & Chaos, Death & Destructions ... That They Fear !!

The scoop: Conspiracy theorists are convinced a rogue planet will destroy the Earth in 2012, and movie makers are already trying to cash in on the hysteria. An astrobiologist calls for a reality check.

+ How could we check that? hmmmmm.... nope? Stinky swampy

**Consider The Source/Motives ... Behind The Article S.who C. !!

Unbeknownst to most of us, a small but vocal group of conspiracy theorists is convinced that a rogue planet is about to enter the inner solar system and doom the Earth.

They say that this threatening planet on a 3600-year orbit was discovered by the ancient Mesopotamians, who named it Nibiru,

**They Do Not Even Have ... Their Informations Correct !! ... Not 3,600 Terrestrial Years (Which Is A "Rounded Figure") ... But Estimated ... 3,652 - 3,657 Terrestrial Years ... Which Is A Estimate/Guesstimate ... As This Can Vary !! ... As To The "Ancient Mesopotamians" ... Who Named The Planet Nibiru ... No !! ... As This Is An "Anunnaki Translation" ... Into
The S(h)umerian Language ... & Then Translated Into Many Other Languages Of The Times ... Descendant Languages ... Finally To Be Translated Into "American English" !!

and it was known also to the Mayans, who associated it with the end of their calendar "long count" in December 2012.

**Of One Branch ... Of The Survivors Of Aztlan ... Of The Refugees ... The Termed: "Mayan (Astronomical) Calendar" ... Was Used To Calculate/Approximate ... When The Return Of Nibiru Was !! ... As Of Passages ... This Was A Cause ... Of Great Upheavals To Their Former Lands
... And This Time ... Of That Time ... & Times To Come ... They Wanted To Be Ready !! ... Call Them Scientists ... Call Them Astronomers ... Call Them Observationists ... These Were Those Of Aztlan ... Who Were Very Learned ... & Studied/Kept Track ... Of Stars & Planetary & Celestial Bodies Movements !!

In Web sites, blogs, and radio talk shows, they insist that NASA is tracking Nibiru -- but that this information is
being kept from the public as part of a worldwide conspiracy.

**Yes Of Course They Are !! ... They Are Not Stupid !! ... Though Most Do Not Realize ... That N.A.S.A. ... (National Aeronautics and Space Administration) ... Is Actually ... N.S.A. (National Security Admistration/Agency) ... Of Which The Use Of N.A.S.A. ... (To The Public) ... Is Hiding In Plain Sight !!! ... While "N.A.S.A." Is Entertaining The Dumbed Down Populace ... Showing The Public What They Want Them To See ... Out In Space ... They Are Quite Active ... Having A "Twin Hubble" (Not Called This Of Course !!) ... & Advanced Space Planes ... & Other Things ... For Their Use !!

+hmmmm, as in this site and this thread, of course...

**Hmmmm !!!

They say the official silence can't be maintained for much
longer, however, because by 2009 Nibiru will be visible to the naked eye from the southern hemisphere.

**This Is What Is Said !! ... If "Viewing" ... Is Not Interfered With ... By "Natural & Artificial Means" !!

They also say Earth's axis is already tilting
and the length of the day is changing under its influence.

**Yup !!!

+ Very very very very slight variations. Nothing conclusive so far... but doesn't matter for the issue...

**Subtle Differences ... So As Not To Be Noticed ... So As ... Not To Be Concerned !!

As one believer recently wrote to me, "Why are you lying. It's coming, and everyone knows it."

**There Are Those That Know ... Understand This ... & There Are Those ... That Do Not !! ... The One That Know (Terrestrial That Is !!) ... Of Governmental Agencies ... Have Signed Their "Security Contracts" ... Of Which Of Even A "Hint Of A Leak" Gets Out ... & This Is Traced Back ... Depending On The Infraction ... Could Cost Them Their Jobs & Any Other Employment ... To More Serious Infractions ... Where The Person(s) ... Are Eliminated ... (Perhaps With Their Families ??) ... By "Accident" !! ... Or They Simply ... Disappear !!

+ EVERYONE! well... obviously not. Is it? I am not sure but i do not rule that out, of course.

**No ... Not Everyone Is Aware Of ... What I Coming In !! ... Obviously ... This Is Not The Case !! ... However ... There Are Many ... Who Can Biologically Feel ... Changes That Are Happening ... & Those That Observe The Weather & Animals Reacting/Acting Strangely ... So They Do Not Dismiss These Things !! ... Also There Are Those ... That Are Connected ... & Simply
Know !!

I began to receive questions about this bizarre story in
December 2007 through NASA's "Ask an Astrobiologist" site. Normally I receive up to a dozen questions per week from the public, dealing mostly with life in the universe -- but in the past 6 months the Nibiru traffic alone has grown to 20-25 messages a week, ranging from the anguished "I can't sleep," "I am really scared" or "I don't want to die" to the abusive "you are putting my family at risk" and "if NASA denies it then it must be
true."

**And N.A.S.A. (N.S.A.) Is NOT Going To Tell You !! ... They Will Distract/Debunk ... Lie Through Their Teeth ... Whatever Is Needed ... To Protect This Secret !! ... Why ?? ... Again It Is ... Fear !! ... Fear Of The Reaction(s) ... & What Would Happen ... If The Public Actually Knew ... Actually Realized ... What Was Going To Occur !!

+ Interesting.

**It Is Curious ... Of The N.A.S.A. Response !! ... Which Their Position Is ... They Won't Know !! ... They Don' t Need To Know !! ... There Is Nothing Can Be Done About This Situation ... So Why "Set The Planet On
Fire" ... With Madness, Death, Destruction ... Even BEFORE ... The Preliminaries ... Even BEFORE ... Nibiru & The Changes Come !! ... So Better To Have Them ... Continue On ... & Live Their Lives ... In The Created Illusion ... Then Know ... The Truth Of Things !!

As a scientist, I'm both fascinated and astonished by the deluge of questions from people who are genuinely frightened and, apparently, unable to distinguish astronomical fact from fiction.

**It Is Of Those Of N.A.S.A. & Others Jobs ... To Use "Debunking" ... To Keep The Public In The Dark !! ... Rather Then ... Considering The Alternative ... Probability ... If The Public Understood The Impending
Crisis ... & Their Reactions !!

+ Yes indeed... not very surprising of course.

**It Is Not Surprising ... Of These Person's Positions ... & Their Paid Jobs ... In Deflecting Panic & Concern ... Ahead Of Time !!

They're watching YouTube videos and visiting slick Web sites with nothing in their skeptical toolkit, or to quote Carl Sagan no "baloney detector."

**Carl Sagan ... Was A "Compensated" Bull S. Artist !! ... He Was A "Governmental Spokesperson" .. That The Public Saw ... Who Appeared To The Public & Answered Their Questions ... In A Bull S. Way !! ... Not Giving The
Public The Actual Truth ... But Something For Them To Believe ... & Chew On !! ... He Had Always Dodged & Deflected ... Those Questions About "Extraterrestrial Contact" ... Of That Time !! ... Moreso Putting Out To
The Public ... "Theories" Of Life In The Cosmos ... When He Himself ... Had Contacts ... Specifically ... He Was One Of A Team ... That Had Direct Exposure ... To A Monolith In Space ... That Was Taken From It's Place In
Space ... Taken To Earth ... To Study/Understand/Test ... To Gain It's Secrets ... & Of This ... He & Other Individuals Developed Cancers ... In Which They Died ... From Exposures To The Various Energies/Radiations !! ...
So The Very Fact ... Of His Demise ... & The Way He Went ... Said He Was A Liar ... In Which He Got Paid To Lie !!

+ Well... the baloneys detector kits come in many ways and it is obvious that they are...

**As To "Baloney" ... In Regard To ... "Official Governmental Spokespeople" ... We Would Not Be So Polite ... & Use "Stronger Words" ... To Describe
These ... Tellers Of Mistruths !!!

sometimes quite mishappening, specially when they
are built on prejudices/preconceived thoughts that had efficiently blocked some understandments... such as the ones going on between traditional plate tectonics and earth expansion processes. Why is not subduction being
ballooned out? hmmmm... human science is not perfect, of course.

**Your Planet Would Be A Different Place ... If Honesty In Information Was Told !! ... As Is ... This Is Not Done !! ... And There Are Many ... For Control & Power ... Who Wish To Use This Information (s) ... Solely For
Themselves !! ... It Has Been Said ... That "Information" Is Power !! ... And So This Is !! ... And When "Others" Control The Source/Flow Of Informations On Your Planet ... Little Understanding/Knowledge Is Gained !!

Now a blockbuster disaster film called "2012" is set for release in the summer of 2009, and the commercial enterprise is clearly trying to cash in on people's concern (perhaps contributing to their fear as well).

+ perhaps?

**Perhaps ?? ... If Things Last That Long !!! ... If Main Changes Do Not Come ... Before Then !!

My guess is that only a tiny fraction of people truly believes that Armageddon is coming in December 2012. But their uncritical acceptance of this story worries me as a warning of the dangers of our current scientific illiteracy.

**Not "Armageddon" ... Which Is A Word Taken ... & Misused !! ... Suggesting "Total Destruction" (Moreso Used To Describe "Artificial Caused Events" .. Such As Wars, Ect.) ... & It Carries With It ... More Of
A "Religious Interpretation" !! .... Of What Is To Happen ... We Would Simply Say ... "Planetary Changes" ... As This Is ... What You Would Be Experiencing !! ... And It Is ... "From Perspectives" ... Of Natural Happenings & Events !!

+ Indeed... it is worrisome. Among other things.

**It Is ... Of A Concern ...When The Populace Is Kept (Purposely) Dumbed Down !!

We're facing monumental problems with global warming

**No ... As "Global Warming" ... Is What Was "Pushed" ... What Was Sold ... To A Gullible Public !! ... Who Would Believe Of Their "Official Terrestrial Authorities" .... If They Package The Lies Properly !!! ... Even Of Said "Global Warming" ... Those That Have Pushed This Agenda ... Get Really Nervous ... When Ones Question ... The Actual & Real Sources ... Of What Is Causing Changes On Their Planet !! ... Some Places Heating Up ... Other Places Which Were Warm ... Cooling Down !! ... Still They Use Their "Backup Plan" ... & Parrot (No Insult To The Parrots Intended !!!) ... Repeating In Rote/Repetition ... That "Global Warming" (Which There Are Evidences To The Contrary !!) ... Are Solely Of "Man's Doing" !!

+ wooooops! And what does a comprehensive understanding on the issue gets you to wonder about?! Well... it is not about humans at all, of course. And it is both hot and cold, much more cooooooooooooooooold! Isn´t it?!

**Yep !!!!! ... Both Hot & COLD !! ... Moreso Cooling !! ... As The Star/Sun In Your System ... Called "Sol" ... Is Evolving & Changing !! ... Going
Into The Orange ... Then Red Stages ... & Finally Brown ... & Then Black !!

and loss of habitat

**Yes !! ... Big Loss !!

+ natural habitats. Definitively obvious! Among other problems i related in my thread on Earths perils and elsewhere... and many are trying to help on.

**Yes Indeed !!!

, yet a substantial minority of Americans thinks the world was formed less than 10,000 years ago and deny that evolution is possible.

+ Upsettingly true.

**Evolution ... Just As ... Creationism ... Was Never Fully Understood !! ... These Are Simply Parts ... Stages Of Things ... Not The Whole Of The Equation !! ... The Termed: "Missing Link" ... That Puts It All Together Is
... "Interventionism" ... Where Beings ... Specialists ... With The Knowledge/Understandings ... Came To Terra/Earth ... & Created Life There !! ... As They Did ... To So Many Other Worlds !! ... So Both Evolution (A Promoted/Sold "Theory" Made Into Fact ... Of Charles Darwin) ... & Creationism (Of Religious Distorted Beliefs !!) ... Did The Actual Work !! ... (Whereas Actual "ET Specialists" (Creator Beings ... Later To Be
Called: "Gods" ... & Finally "God") ... Were Responsible !!

Many Americans seem to prefer coal-fired generators to nuclear power plants without realizing the toll in public health that coal imposes.

+ hmmmmmm... both are dangerous and unnecessary.

**Even High Sulfur Coal ... Can Be Made Non-Polluting ... & The Sulfur Take Out ... & Used ... In Which It Does Not Pollute !! ... Same Is To Be Said For ... "Nuclear Power Plants" ... In Which These Can Be Made "Safe" ... By
Applying ... "Known Technologies" That Are "Kept Put Away" ... As They Are ... Not Profitable !! ... & Even ... Radioactive Waste ... Can Be Reclaimed ... & Made Inert !! .... Changed Through A Very Very VERY Cheap Electrical Process ... Back Into Solid Non Radioactive ... Solid Metals !! ... Such As Titanium !!

Billions are spent, including tax-payer dollars, for so-called alternative medicine with no scientific evidence for its efficacy.

**For Those "So Invested" ... In The "Pharmaceutical Industry" ... Who Are Doing Their Part ... Playing Their Roles ... In The Agenda ... Helping To ... Kill People Through Their Poisons ... Keeping Them Sick & Disabled ...
Anything That Would Help ... That Would Heal The Patient ... Would Be Considered ... As The Enemy !! ... Challenging Of What They Want To Do !! ... So This Is Of ... The Big Push ... To Limit ... If Not Ban ... Those
Things Natural ... That Can Treat The Illness !! ... As They Cannot Profit By Things ... Which Cannot Be Patented ... Such As Those Things ... Found In Nature !!

+ hmmmmm..... rather much more billions are expend on
official/approved drugs which fight the symptoms instead of the causes and whose economic benefits do not reach those in the lands where the active principles / medicines initially came from.

**Yes Indeed !! ... And All For ... As We Stated !! ... & More !!!

What does that had to do with astrophysics or scientific honesty or justice BTW?!

And legislators often resist efforts to collect the data that could actually demonstrate which government programs are effective and which ones don't work as intended.

+ Bureaucracy... yeah...

**Intentional Welding Of Power & Control ... As Such Conglomerates Have "Politicians" & Others Who Make Decisions ... Under Their Control ... "In Their Back Pockets" ... So To Speak !!

In spite of my frustrations, I can always hope that Nibiru will turn into a teaching moment. Its proponents are convinced that it will be visible to the unaided eye this coming spring, and its effects on the rotation and orbit of the Earth will be obvious by summer (just in time for
the release of the film "2012"). When none of this happens, I hope they'll realize that they need better tools to distinguish fact from fiction.

+ hmmmmm ... and so if any of this comes to happen DISPROVES the possibility that we might be living in a usual binary system or that there might be other unknown planets?

**Depending Upon Perspectives ... The Sol System ... Is Binary ... & Is Claimed ... By The Sirian System ... Which By "Terrestrial Observation" ... Is Trinary !! ... 3 Suns/Stars !! ... (Well Like The Pleiades System ... The
(7) Sisters ... That Is All They Know/Know Of !!)

No way... you see... that´s why Nibiru´s boom
could be quite well a disinformation campaign... and there could be truth beneath, more or less being suggested. This neither proves, nor denies the possibilities.

**It Only Proves ... That The Article Was Designed Purposely .. To Debunk !!

But maybe they won't.

+ Education, tolerance and critical thinking are the way toward such achievements... not events/non events of weird or unweird natures.

**True Education ... Not Terrestrial "Crap Education" ... & Dumbing Down !! ... As To Learning However ... The Most Basic Teaching Tool That Exists ... Is To Have The Events/Changes Happen !! ... For Beings To Experience !! ... Granted ... They May Not Understand The Causes ... But That Is One Way ... To Make Believers ... Out Of Those ... That Are Stubborn ... & Well ... Rather Thick Headed !!

You can´t understand what you do not the truth/evidences/realities about.

**Not Fully Understand Anyway !!

What about SETI, the public space program and those shining and spectacular metallic giants which needs obscence quantities of energy to reach close to
nothing?! hmmmmm........

**S.E.T.I. (Ot The Search For Extraterrestrial Intelligence) ... Was & Is A Joke !! ... The Program Was Designed/Promoted ... For A Public To Follow ... To Watch ... To Be Amazed With !! ... Thinking That They ... By Even Downloading Software To Help In The Search ... They Were Contributing !! ... Crap !! ... This Was To Keep People Busy & Distracted !! ... Why The REAL Contact ... Was & Is ... Happening ... Behind The Scenes !! ... Of Which There Are ... ET Beings That Work ... On A Constant Basis ... In "Secret Projects" !! ... So The Joke Is ... Why Are They Looking ... When They Both ... Report For Duty ... For Their Jobs ... & "Punch The Same Timeclocks"
???

One of funniest things about this Nibiru story is that it is a rerun -- there was a big Internet concern that Nibiru would destroy the Earth in May of 2003.

**That Was Disinformation ... Put Out Intentionally ... By A "Governmental Source" ... To Make The Real Event ... The Real Upcoming Passage ... & Believers ... Look Stupid ... Look Silly !! ... Intentionally Done ... By Plan !! ... .Was Not A "Zeta White Lie" ... (As They Don't Get "Direct Feed" From Us !!) ... It Was ... Terrestrial Based ... All The Way !!

Something tells me this didn't happen, yet now the
same myth is resurrected. Are we condemned to suffer a Nibiru scare every decade in this century, or will people come to their senses?

**On Of The Best Things That Can Happen ... That Will Happen ... Is For Such Debunkers ... To Have A "Taste Of The Changes" ... To See Nibiru ... Right Up Close & Personal !! ... Then Observe Them ... Standing Back ... &
Watch Their Reactions !!

+ Obviously disinformation campaigns are around... but... why if there is nothing to disinform about? Or perhaps there is?! Perhaps even not exactly what expected?

**Yes ... & That Article ... Is Simply One ... Of Many Methods ... That Has Been Employed .. For Debunking !!

David Morrison, a space scientist at NASA Ames Research Center and interim director of NASA's new Lunar Science Institute, answers questions from the public on "Ask an Astrobiologist." He recently published a collection of sample questions and answers surrounding the Nibiru story in Skeptical Inquirer. The views expressed are the author's alone and do not represent the official position of the Discovery Channel.

Article posted October 13, 2008.

Interesting... he was to talk about Nibiru issue and he touch quite a lot of issues, but exactly what he meant.
It could be synthesized as following:

Nibiru is not real, what might be hypothesized about is not
real, we know pretty well that they are completely misguided, just TRUST ME... our baloney detection kits ARE INFALLIBLE... BELIEVE!

Science? well... hmmmm...

**Well ... Part Of His/Their "Job" ... Is To Debunk This Issue ... To The Public !! ... That Is Part .... Of What They Get Paid To Do !!

Best hopes for a better world ; )

Yes Of Course !!

S. who C.

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Wispy,
The sun should be way further south and it was not in the right spot in Sept either it was still too far North. Like I told ST it is a though we have slowed in our orbit around the sun so that we are 2 months behind. IF the sun continues to move south past Dec 21 it should be obvious to everyone that something is not right, as after the 21 it should begin to move back to the north to its furthest point on June 21st. IF it starts to move back to the North NOW it will be almost due norht by June, sheesh I just cant believe people are not seeing this.