++I AM A EXTRA TERRESTRIAL++ ASK ME A QUESTION AND I WILL RESPOND++

Usefull link for checking on sun transit and angles... just be sure to understand the graphs, use the links there:

[link to www.gaisma.com]

Very curious to notice the leap with the times for dawn, sunrise, sunset and dusk... and much more to notice the angles indeed... angles which you can measure of course

Peace and best hopes for a better world ; )

A Scientist who Cares

[link to www.quake.utah.edu]

Wow, it is even more shaky now at Yellowstone. wow wow wow

There is that amazing thread going on GLP full of links... i posted it before:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

ST, you are awesome... you surprise me... you just cannt be what i said/thought many months ago and i apologyzed for...

Thankyou very much, really very very much indeed ; ) WOW

Wispy, thanks very much for your visions, they are very interesting too : ) I really hope that whatever happens doesnt get close to the worst case scenarios,,, somewhat as Bob suggested in the video on camelot project. Wow, what an interesting guy he seems to be... seems he is really convinced of what he says... that he trully "believe" what he knows/spoke about... and how interesting... it just fall as fingernail for much things being typed on this thread and in many other places... most curious.

Awesome ST, thanks again ; )

Thanks for your comments and suggestions. You were/are right with your comments, i had been trying to keep/embrace a base wich is not any more valid and i was very ornery with that, with trying to fix what i observed with something that just doesnt fix as expected... now i really changed my mind. I want to comment once more on this (+++). I thought for an instance on explaining here... but perhaps it is better not to do so much...perhaps more people read this than i thought, perhaps some of them would not be able to dealt with... you know... you might knew much better. Thanks.

A Scientist who Cares

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(comments +++):


Thanks for your... responses? : )

**You Are Most Welcome !!
+++ Thanks again.

As To The Ideas ... Well ... Someone's Have To Watch Over You !! ... As Who Knows ... Where Those "Terrestrial Road Maps" Will Lead You !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

+ hmmmmmmmmm ... what you meant with that ???

**Just What We Meant !! ... We Watch Over ... & Guide When Necessary !!
+++ oh, of course i see... much thanks, you indeed give some illustrative comments from time to time. Much thanks.

**Yes ... Really !!
+++ Yeah, i see know what you meant... i understood ;)

++ Not ... not really... but its interesting and quite curious that you insist on this.

**We Insist ... When The "Signs" Are There !! ... When These Are ... Put Before Us !! .. Of This ... They Are Evaluated !!
+++ Yes. I agree. Most informative. BTW you are less swampy than i thought. I think i was swampying myself with ficticial expectations... he he he he heeee


**Who/Whom Indeed ???.

++ Are you... founding this .... hmmm...undermining?

++hmmmmm ???

**We Are "Curious Beings" ... & You Aroused Our Curiosity !!
+++ oh, yes of course... and you aroused mine quite a lot ;)


**It Is Of Nativity ... To Believe ... That Such Informations & Knowleges Presented Here & Elsewhere ... Are Just Read ... Disseminated ... By Those Who Would Use ... What We Relate ... For Beneficial Purposes !! ...
Therefore Of Ourselves & Our Conduit ... The Restrictions On Conversing In Certain Areas ... To Prevent Misuse & Abuse !!
+++ Oh, well... of course... i understand.

but if they do, what's wrong with that?

**There Is Nothing ... "Wrong With That" !! ... It Is ... As We Have Just Stated !!
+++ Yes it is as stated, of course ;)

Isn't that what you want to encourage/what you encourage?

**Thinking Is Always Encouraged !! ... Misuse For Non-Beneficial Purposes ... Is Not Encouraged !!
+++ I would had said the same indeed, it is wise ; )

Just because someone consider an idea it does not mean
anything on his/her conviction regarding it, as he/she might feel convinced (rather than having faith) by a different one... the more explicative, the more close to reality, the best...

that's why science evolve (when it does of course, unfortunately not often for some issues).

**Terrestrial Sciences !!! ... We Often Deal With ... Cleaning Up Their Messes !! .... Of Laboratory Experiments .. .That Backfired ... In Which These Experiments Were Presented As "Successful" (The Real Test Results Hidden Away !!) ... Then Such Is Applied ... In An Open Environment !! ... With No Care Or Concern ... To What Could Happen ... To Life ... To The Environment !! ... All For The Love Of Money ... For Power/Prestige ... Fame ... & To Keep Their "Research Contracts" Flowing In !! ... So Much Pain & Suffering On Terra/Earth ... (& Yes On Other Worlds !!) ... Has Been
Achieved ... In Same/Similar Fashions !!
+++ I understand or at least, i asure you that i agree to some extent. It is fortunate to know (well to read) that it has been similar in other worlds.


that's great in some ways because we can discuss ideas which might otherwise be "unwise" to even... mention?

**Unwise To Who/Whom ??

++ Isn't it obvious that to those who would find the ideas or the implications... out of this type of DEBUNKABLE and reach limited media... more or less... "uncomfortable"? You had stood on that many times... isn't it quite obvious?

**Yes ... But We Are Aware Of This !! ... Was Wondering However ... If You Were Aware !!
+++ Yes, i am aware of what you mean. Regarding the issue of these last communications and the h proof mentioning i was not aware until you gave me those hints and... very sure i am aware now... it´s in some way so obvious and still i was neglecting that while considering just what could be actually closer to a deeper/wholistic understandment... you understand, of course. I apologyze for my ornery, for my embracement of expected things.

+++ ST, don´t you think it would be better not to discuss too much on the easy methods to check out on the angles? Just let those who don´t get it easy to dream/confuse/wonder at most with this being magnetic declination and such things... to not put logs to the fire as i said before? Isn´t that better? Or is it that your... Nibiru or similar is already so close that this doesn´t matter and that you really determined a high probability for a worst case scenario? What do you think?

No ST, no one told me anything... and why should anyone would?

**Yes ... Why Should They ??? .... Hmmmm ???

++ Indeed... as what you typed on the thread... why??? Perhaps for considering the possibility that you might had more things right in your "communications"? Insane?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ...

**We Notice The Ebb & Flow !! ... And When This Is Disrupted ... & Most Abruptly At That ... With A "Positional Change" ... We ... "Sit Up & Take Notice" !!
+++ Indeed... and on why youy typed (with limitations included)... as for letting others discover, as for hinting without giving the exact information... i understand. As for the governments being quiet, as for disinf and confusing etc... as bob says... what can they told people? To dig a hole? Yeah... i think they act wisely... so this is to be kept as delussional conspiracy weird irrealities... as long as it could be... isn´t that wise?

Who? It is just... as you said... quite debunkable. Isn't it? he he he

**Yes ... In Your Own Style Of This !!
+++ Well, thanks... of which i would help more without explaining exactly what i had come to understand of course... which i suspect you would applaud...

**Well No !! ... & Your Observations ... Would Always Be ... In Error !! ... Because Your Thinking ... Is In Error !! ... Using "Their" Way There ... On Terra/Earth ... Of Thinking ... Of Seeing !! ... To Really
Understand ... To Really "See" ... You Need To Approach The
Problem ... From Another Direction ... Another View/Perceptual View ... Another Base/Point Of Reference !! ... As One Might Say ... The Base You Are
Working From/Working Off Of ... Has Moved !!

+++ YES, as i said... you were/are right. The base has changed... but i prefer not to explain this on detail... it is so obvious that i just cannt believe i missed it!

++ So the "base" has moved in relation to what

**Your Perception ... Ways Of Perception ... Perceptual Thinking !!

+++ YES, of course. Indeed.

++ Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ... ways of perception?

**Indeed So !!
+++ Indeed so and thanks again for the hints, for moving the sand castles of tought. He he he he he

Well... i do not have elaborated advanced/complex equipment at hand...

**Yes ... We Understand Of This !! ... Though We Are Not Talking About "Equipment" ... Rather ... Perceptual Awareness !! ... How You View Things !! ... A Simple Case For This ... Is Looking Through ... A Light Refracting
Telescope !! ... And Seeing Of That ... Of Those Things Most Distant ... As Happening ... In Your Termed: Current (Artificial) Linear Time Frame !! ... If You Would ... By Using Non-Advanced Terrestrial Technologies
... Physically Journey To A Distant World ... The Moments It Would Take To Arrive ... By Your Craft ... Of It's Slower Methods Of Propulsion ... The Whole View ... The Whole Perception Of The World You Are About To Visit ...
Would Have Changed !! ... So Essentially Of One "Point Of View" ... You Are ... Looking In ... On That Planet's "Past" ... Versus ... What Is Happening/Transpiring ... In The Now !!

+++ Most interesting analogies ; )

you should understand of course. he he he he he ... i am not even an astronomer,

**You May Be ... More Then You Think !! ... You Just Need ... Some Help ... In Changing Your Focus !!
+++ Thanks a lot ; ) Awesome worlds...

although i love to wonder in these marvelous issues... i had ever wondered :)

**Oh Indeed !! ... And Of Course ... You Can ... Go There ... If So Desired !!
+++ Yes ; ) And hope that we can live too for a better world, not just disappear... so much beauty, marvels... of which plenty might be so endangered... this makes my conservation work pale as nothing... it is almost meaningless after all, it is not only unsufficiently based and extremely weakly supported (as are even the major conservation programs in comparison to major enterprises and political mismanagements)... but also largely irreal... what would it really serves for? It should serve in a world of wisdom and truth, a world about which persons like me use to dream and to fight for... but which is actually quite far from our present reality... a world that perhaps could some day really be... but without a harsh or worst case nightmare of what you relate about... isn´t it?




++ Well thanks... in some months if i can i would check this out by myself in other... locations, perhaps it was a local magnetic effect indeed.

**If You Have ... Some Months To Observe !! ... To ... Check This Out !!

+++ If so... which i hope become years instead of months... perhaps you can help us? What do i know... you perhaps know much better... or perhaps not... please help if it is possible nevertheless... if it becomes necessary... for keeping a worst case scenario very very very very "irreal".

**We Are Saying ... So Long As You Use ... Incorrect &
Antiquated/Worn Out Methods ... To Establish What You Are Seeing ... What You Are Experiencing ... You Will Always Be In Error !!

+++ Not exactly the methods... but the assumptions and the interpretations... which you had help me to review from the base. He he he

++ Might i be in error for looking at angles and positions as they are?

**Yes !! ... From That View/Viewpoint ... You Would Not Know ... How They Actually Are !!
+++ Most surely from that point! Yes of course, indeed! he he he he he How blind i was... he he he


**These Are Not ... Hard Evidences/Proofs !! ... They Are Of ... Limited Awareness/Perceptions !!
+++ They were so indeed. Thanks once more for your hints.

Best hopes for a better world ; )

S. who C.

ST In BG, can you tell me where L. Ron Hubbard obtained most of his information? He believed humans are spiritual beings enmeshed and imprisoned on earth. How would he know that?

**Terrestrial Sciences !!! ... We Often Deal With ... Cleaning Up Their Messes !! .... Of Laboratory Experiments .. .That Backfired ... In Which These Experiments Were Presented As "Successful" (The Real Test Results Hidden Away !!) ... Then Such Is Applied ... In An Open Environment !! ... With No Care Or Concern ... To What Could Happen ... To Life ... To The Environment !! ... All For The Love Of Money ... For Power/Prestige ... Fame ... & To Keep Their "Research Contracts" Flowing In !! ... So Much Pain & Suffering On Terra/Earth ... (& Yes On Other Worlds !!) ... Has Been
Achieved ... In Same/Similar Fashions !!

+++ I understand or at least, i asure you that i agree to some extent. It is fortunate to know (well to read) that it has been similar in other worlds.


++++ I just misinterpreted... it is unfortunate but... i meant that it is fortunate to know that it can be dealt with, than the challenges can be surpass, that better worlds are possible, that life can thrive and that intelligence reigns the universe. It is very fortunate to know that we are not alone as a civilization and that even while we face gargantuan challenges and dangers... other had overcome similar threats and that they are out there.

It is fortunate to know this. To know there is HOPE.

A Scientist who Cares

Greeting's ST In BG, comments withen / below the comments made by you.


**Don't You Ever Wonder/Ask Yourself ... Of The "Millionaires" ... Who Take "The Field" ... How The Common ... "Ticket Buying Public" ... Can Support These Players ... Being On The Team ?? ... Even Of ... Having A Team To Begin With !! ... It Is Not ... The Ticket Buying Public !! ... As If This Was Truly The Case ... The Prices Would Be So High ... They Could Not Afford ... To Fill The Stands ... Much Less ... Come To The Game !!




Well ok st , what about the jerseys and sports memorabilia sold in stores/shopping, and the video games nfl based and all the other means to make money besides just the ticket sales, their are many outlets, food beer sold at games ect, lots of chances to make money besides ticket sales.

**It Will Arrive ... Much Sooner Then ... 2-3 Years !!

are you sure,

**They Are Sure !! ... We Monitor !!

they are sure as in the zeta's? and you conduit and other of your terestrial friends monitor? is this correct?



well if Nibiru is doing what many suggest and is
rapidly approaching, 2009 would be the best bet for the year of the first passage?

**It Is A ... With All Things ... A "Guesstimate" ... Based On Information ... That Is Known !! ... If Things ... "Stay On Course" !!

a guestimate indeed, now that latest vision, is curious but we'll see if Jan 10th 2009 is the start of things.

If you interpreted your vision correctly then we are in trouble, yeah this would be PERFECT lineup for the changes to happen this MONTH because you have 2006 visions of football games and children loading up on busses with teachers and getting the hell out of dodge, but saturday isnt a school day, hmmmmmmmmmm, well could start on friday and go through saturday , maybe the games will be cancelled cause of the changes, we'll see but for some reason i'm not worried as i think we will have more time in this form past January 10th 2009 and beyond SOME months yet, but then again it may or may not happen, its speculation at this point.

ST, you could add the latest vision to your musical visions and update it, that would be cool.

ST, some people on here, i noticed atleast 2 people have used Enki as their name, and speak as they are enki or have connections to enki, as to insulting as your were the true ENKI correct?

January 10th 2009 st doesnt give much moments to evacuate with the zeta's or whoever entity's will rescue the beings off the planet in time for the changes, how can this be?

ST,
Would it be a bad thing to join a Wicca or pagan group not to worship or such nonsense but to pay my respects to the ancient gods which are us and our family and friends back then?
My wife is bitching I need get our a meet new people. I know a lot of those groups are family oriented.

Anyone else here on this thread you advice on this is welcome!

Take care brother from another mother!

ST states you shouldnt really worship anyone. pay your respects to ancient of beings is allright but ST doesnt like the term GOD as that is a religious construct.

Capitan i think we have more time than the 10th of January because that wouldnt give enuff time for evacuation purposes by the et's and others who will do the rescuing.

Take care, Josh. sometimes onery and mishchevious

[link to www.youtube.com]

Yep, that's my feeling too!!

It's easy to say "let er blow" ~ I'm sad for the pain the people, animals, plants, will endure before their life ends.


------- ++ --------

St please, will we remember the pain of death when our current life ends? If so, will the pain have meaning? Or will it be dulled by the wondrousness of our next adventure?

Also, when I mentioned previously about the "creator(s)" when they create life, I asked if they had carte blanche, which means - can they create whatever they want? Do they create for a purpose or just to see what happens?

Thanks much!!

Canundrum

**No ... Just Too Many To Name !! ... And Many Of These ... Do Not Have ... "Terrestrial Names" !!


OK

**No We Cannot !!

What race/species was Thoth, and what density??


**No ... The Thinking Is Incorrect !! ... Not "Hot Planet" ... More Correct To Say ... "Energetic Planet" ... Of Energies Understood ... & Not Understood ... Given Off !! ... It Is ... Not Of "Terrestrial Science/Understanding" ... So This Would Not Relate !!

interesting.. so Niburu radiates hot and cold energy?

--

when niburu comes, are all going to die? if they die are they still going to graduate 3rd density? what of those who do not know anything.. the brainwashed people.. are they going to graduate too? will the nice people [sto] graduate and the [sts] people repeat ? i think all people should graduate.. is there any way for those who don't know to graduate along with the good people and the ones who are aware?


is there such thing as an 'organic portal'? a human that doesn't have a soul and is only here to 'keep things the way they are' or something along those lines?

namaste

Yes Anytime I sense california... Big bubbly/ "Bulges"

Is it Saf'er' to be on a mountain (high ground) during a tipping of the water ? I am near vancouver, British columbia and I realize coastal flooding is a huge concern, wouldnt want to get washed away, wouldn't be plesent.

Is the 6 sided star related to lessons of "time"? I hope I am worthy of graduating to these higher lessons by the time the changes occur, wouldnt have wanted to waste my 'time'.


So, whats the deal with yellowstone... Be real here, Theres gysers which should have been a sign long ago just have gotten everybody dummed down. (example) My mom says that "ohh its not a big deal, Yellowstone is known to have lots of seismic activity"... RIIIIGHT so 250 more even? earthquakes that are STILL CONTINUING is no big deal in one area... so my question is, Why Yellowstone? Did someone choose this particular place for the beginning of the events which are to unfold?

Also a question regarding accumulating energy, When it is the correct moment, i have gotten huuge (in my perspective) energy surges where energy is being directed through my fingers to my arms and into my entire body eventually, I usually start feeling tingly sensations in my Teeth when the moment is right to perform these energy transformations. I know that it would be smart to continue allowing these adjustments to take place,

I just don't know nessesarily what they are, and who/where they come from, and why such particular moments? why do these take place? Preparations, steps to take for Nibiru?

Sincerly, Earthling. =(Lad)

Ramble on, Peace and love.

Thanks for answering what you can. So there are actually multiple versions of me aboard? That is such a strange concept to me. You can't tell me what species these other versions of me are or if I am of your kind? I guess I have some sort of agreement with you then if I'm behind taken aboard.

Another question, this time directed at the conduit: Do you feel strongly that your interpretations of the Jan 6 vision/dream you had will come to pass on January 10th? I've never seen you mention a date before until now... that really got my attention.

Thanks.

I understood ST & Conduit to indicate that the San Andreas/SanFrancisco fault would start the rolling cataclysms rippling across one direction, then back again, and so forth.

Greetings: El'Capitan Charisma: User ID: 458434

Good let it all blow! I want to go home! Screw this cesspit! All is lost nothing can be done.Time to get the ark up and running!

**We Understand !! ... Many Have These Same Thoughts/Feelings !!
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To no one in particular. Yea! Can not wait to hit the 4d!

**Will Happen ... Sooner Then One Thinks !!

Well could be worse. I could be stuck back in the 3d

**No ... You Will Go Onto ... The Next Higher Plane !!

Keep getting hit here in P.A. by wimpy quakes.

**Volcanoes Nearby !!

Maybe I should move a mobile home over top the yellow stone!

**Well ... That Would Be One Way ... We Suppose !! ... If Nothing Else ... Would Save On The "Heating Bill" !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!
___________________________________________________________

ST,

A while back we had a discussion about how the landscape here on EArth has several faces on its surface.

You basically said it was bogus.

**Basically Yes !!

Why do when I watch a movie or anything on T.V.,internet showing EArth from a far you can clearly see the faces?

**We Are Not Saying ... Such Does Not Exist !! ... However The Interpretation Of Such ... Is Incorrect !!

I mostly see the same face on Mars here.

**That Was/Is A Marker ... Left By The Anunnaki ... Who Mined On Mazar/Mars !!

Are all the images movies and such doctored?

**No ... Though There Are Those ... That Are !!

I know your mum on this subject and give elusive replies."everyone has many siblings".I believe I found my sister.

**OH OH !! ... (OH OK !!)

She has been my companion the past fourteen years.Am I right?

**It Is For You To Determine !!

Is this why there is a refusal to acknowledge that I have one, being that she has been my companion a(nd) I may have not been able to handle that my wife may or may not be my sister?

**We Cannot Say !!

THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY (unless you took me aboard ship and slapped me around lol) you can convince me you and your brother would of been happy with one child.

**It Is ... For You To Determine ... Not For Us ... To Tell You !!
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ST,

Would it be a bad thing to join a Wicca or pagan group not to worship or such nonsense but to pay my respects to the ancient gods which are us and our family and friends back then?

**To Honor & Respect Such Beings ... Is One Thing !! ... To Call Them "Gods" ... Is Insultive !! ... As They Were Not !!

My wife is bitching I need get out and meet new people. I know a lot of those groups are family oriented.

**Regretfully ... They Too Are Corrupted ... In Misbeliefs/Misunderstandings ... Of How Things Are !!

Anyone else here on this thread you advice on this is welcome!

Take Care my many many many many many many lifetimes friend! & brother from another mother!

May You Also Be Safe/Protected !!

Take Care !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: S. who C.: User ID: 588466

Useful link for checking on sun transit and angles... just be sure to understand the graphs, use the links there:

Gaisma: Tucson, Arizona: Sunrise, Sunset, Dawn, Dusk Times For The Whole Year.

[link to www.gaisma.com]

Very curious to notice the leap with the times for dawn,
sunrise, sunset and dusk... and much more to notice the angles indeed... angles which you can measure of course

**Yes ... But One Main Problem Is ... That All These "Figures" ... Are Estimations/Guesstimates ... Until The Events Transpire !! ... And Even Then ... Based Of Perception ... Of Linear (Artificial) Time ... & Of That "Reality" .... Of Things There !!
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The University Of Utah: Seismograph Stations: Earthquake Information Center

[link to www.quake.utah.edu]

Wow, it is even more shaky now at Yellowstone. wow wow wow

**Yes Indeed !!

There is that amazing thread going on GLP full of links... i posted it before:

Magnitude 3.4 to 3.8 many more swarms in the Caldera in Yellowstone lake - YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK updates links Page 1

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

**Oh Yes !!! ... & Thank You ... For The Links !!
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ST, you are awesome... you surprise me... you just cannot be what i said/thought many months ago and i apologized for...

Thank you very much, really very very much indeed ; ) WOW

**You Are Very Welcome !!
___________________________________________________________

**In Response To: NightWisp ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

Wispy, thanks very much for your visions, they are very
interesting too : )

**Oh Very Very Much So !!!

I really hope that whatever happens doesn't get close to
the worst case scenarios,,,

**We Will Accept ... That Which Is To Occur !! ... As That Is ... Of The Processes ... That Are To Transpire !!

somewhat as Bob suggested in the video on camelot project. Wow, what an interesting guy he seems to be... seems he is
really convinced of what he says... that he truly "believes" what he knows/spoke about... and how interesting...

**Yes ... Most Interesting Indeed !!

... it just fall as fingernail for much things being typed on this thread and in many other places... most curious.

**It Is Just ... The "Tip Of The Fingernail" ... Or ... The "Tip Of The Iceberg" ... Of What He Has Said ... & May Say On This !! ... So This Would Be A "Brevity" !! ... Though He Knows Of Nibiru !! ... And Of His Personal Convictions ... He Is Convinced Of This !! ... However His Return Estimation Of 2 -3 Terrestrial Years ... Is Incorrect !!

Peace and best hopes for a better world ; )

Always !!

A Scientist who Cares

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: S. who C.: User ID: 588466

Awesome ST, thanks again ; )

Thanks for your comments and suggestions.

**You Are Most Welcome !!

You were/are right with your comments, i had been trying to keep/embrace a base which is not any more valid and i was very ornery with that, with trying to fix what i
observed with something that just doesn't fix as expected... now i really changed my mind.

I want to comment once more on this (+++). I thought for an
instance on explaining here... but perhaps it is better not to do so

**Yes ... For "Reasons" !!

much...perhaps more people read this than i thought,

**They Do !!

perhaps some of them would not be able to dealt with... you know... you might knew much better.

**Yes ... We Understand !! ... There Are Many Who Are Not Prepared ... On Terra/Earth ... For An Extreme Shift ... Of Their "Reality" !! ... "Pulling The Rug Out" From Under ... Would Be As Nothing In Comparison !! ... As From Their Perception/View ... When The Changes Do Occur ... It Would Be As If ... Their Whole World ... All At Once ... Has Gone Mad !! ... Everything They Have Based Their Lives On ... Everything They Have Established ... As Their Foundations ... Will Crumble And Fall Away !! ... It Will Depend Upon The Individual(s) ... On How They Are Able ... To Handle Such "Shifts Of The Paradigm" ... Such Changes !! ... There Will Be Of Persons ... Many Various Reactions !! ... Anything From ... Keeping Ones Wits About Them ... Being Able To Think Things Through ... To Being
Paralyzed ... Not Able To Move/To Think ... To Being Driven Crazy/Mad/Insane ... Of Which They Will Loose ... All Traces Of Civilization ... And Resort To Savagery/Brutality ... In Order To Survive !!

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(comments +++):

**Just What We Meant !! ... We Watch Over ... & Guide When
Necessary !!

+++ oh, of course i see... much thanks, you indeed give some illustrative comments from time to time. Much thanks.

**You Are Most Welcome !!

**We Insist ... When The "Signs" Are There !! ... When These Are ... Put Before Us !! .. Of This ... They Are Evaluated !!

+++ Yes. I agree. Most informative. BTW you are less swampy than i thought. I think i was swampying myself with ficticial expectations... he he he he heeee

**Thank You !! .... Could Be ?? ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

**We Are "Curious Beings" ... & You Aroused Our Curiosity !!

+++ oh, yes of course... and you aroused mine quite a lot ;)

**We Have "Curiosity" In Common !!!

**Thinking Is Always Encouraged !! ... Misuse For Non-Beneficial Purposes ... Is Not Encouraged !!

+++ I would had said the same indeed, it is wise ; )

**We Are Honored !!

**Terrestrial Sciences !!! ... We Often Deal With ... Cleaning Up Their Messes !! ... Of Laboratory Experiments .. .That Backfired ... In Which These Experiments Were Presented As "Successful" (The Real Test
Results Hidden Away !!) ... Then Such Is Applied ... In An Open Environment !! ... With No Care Or Concern ... To What Could Happen ... To Life ... To The Environment !! ... All For The Love Of Money ... For Power/Prestige ... Fame ... & To Keep Their "Research Contracts" Flowing In !! ... So Much Pain & Suffering On Terra/Earth ... (& Yes On Other Worlds !!) ... Has Been
Achieved ... In Same/Similar Fashions !!

+++ I understand or at least, i assure you that i agree to some extent. It is fortunate to know (well to read) that it has been similar in other worlds.

**It Is Correct ... That You Are Not Alone In This !! ... We (& Others) ... Have Needed To "Step In" ...
& Clean Up Their Messes Too !! ... So Of These Things Happening ... It Is Not To These Beings Fortune ... But
(Without Intervention) ... Greatly To Their Downfall ... & Perhaps Self Extermination !!

**Yes ... But We Are Aware Of This !! ... Was Wondering However ... If You Were Aware !!

+++ Yes, i am aware of what you mean. Regarding the issue of these last communications and the h proof mentioning i was not aware until you gave me those hints and... very sure i am aware now... it´s in some way so obvious and still i was neglecting that while considering just what could be actually closer to a deeper/wholistic understandment...

**Yes ... You Were ... "Off Course" !! ... So We Put You ... Back "On Course" !!

you understand, of course. I apologize for my ornery, for my embracement of expected things.

**It Was ... To Be Expected ... For Your Learning !! ... Now You Are Able ... To Go Beyond This !!

+++ ST, don´t you think it would be better not to discuss too much on the easy methods to check out on the angles? Just let those who don´t get it easy to dream/confuse/wonder at most with this being magnetic
declination and such things... to not put logs to the fire as i said before?

**They Too ... Need To Learn ... To Grow !!

Isn´t that better? Or is it that your... Nibiru or similar is already so close that this doesn´t matter and that you really determined a high probability for a worst case scenario? What do you think?

**It Is Best ... For All .. To Understand !!

**We Notice The Ebb & Flow !! ... And When This Is Disrupted ... & Most Abruptly At That ... With A "Positional Change" ... We ... "Sit Up & Take Notice" !!

+++ Indeed... and on why you typed (with limitations
included)... as for letting others discover, as for hinting without giving the exact information...

**It Is ... To Lead ... Yet For Them ... To Discover !!

i understand. As for the governments being quiet,
as for disinf and confusing etc... as bob says... what can they told people? To dig a hole?

**Yes It Is True !! ... There Is Not Much ... They Could Tell Them .... "IF" ... They Were Honest, Truthful ... & "Up Front" ... About What Was Going To Occur !!

**It Would Be ... Very Very VERY Unlikely ... That (Like In The Fictional Hollywood Movie: Deep Impact) ... The President Would Call A "Press Conference" ... & Like Morgan Freeman (Who Played The President In "Deep
Impact") ... Tell The American Citizens ... All About ... What Is Happening !! ... We Do Not Foresee This Occurring !! ... As There Are Many Individuals ... Many Who Have "Interests" ... & "Reasons" ... For Keeping Such An Event Quiet ... To Keep The People Distracted, Mind Numbed & Controlled ... With What They Think Of ... As "Day To Day Living" !! ... A Main Reason(s)/Concern(s) In Having The Public Realize ... What Is To Happen ... Is The Panic, Riots, Death & Destruction ... That Would Ensue ... That Would Come About ... Before The Actual Arrival ... Of That Which Is Inbound !!

Yeah... i think they act wisely... so this is to be kept as
delusional conspiracy weird irrealities... as long as it could be... isn´t that wise?

**It Is ... "Skirting/Riding A Fine Line" ... This Is Why ... On Terra/Earth ... A Compromise Was Reached ... Between The "Hardliners/Older Military People" (Who Have Set Policies ... We Do Things ... "By The Book" ... The Public Will Not Know !!!) ... & Those Younger (Who Felt That ... These Are People ... They Have Families !! ... Even If Nothing Can Be Done ... They Should Be Able To ... Be With Their Loved Ones ... During This Time
!! ... Or However They Choose (Within Reason) ... To Face That Which Will Occur ... That Will Happen !!

**The Compromise (After Intense & Coming Close To Physical Blows !! ... Arguing Back & Forth !!) ... Was That The Information Would Be Allowed To Be Presented ... To Be "Leaked Out" From Terrestrial Sources .... As
Long As It Was Done In Such A Way ... That The Informations Could Be ... Dismissed ... Debunked ... Made To Look Silly ... & In Any Way ... Not To Be Taken Seriously ... Factual/Real !! ... **This "Ruling" Of Course ... Does Not Apply To Us !!

+++ YES, as i said... you were/are right. The base has
changed... but i prefer not to explain this on detail... it is so obvious that i just can't believe i missed it!

**Yes Indeed !!! .... Many Things ... Are Very Simple ... So Much So ... They Are Missed/Overlooked !!

++ Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ... ways of perception?

**Indeed So !!

+++ Indeed so and thanks again for the hints, for moving the sand castles of thought. He he he he he

**You Are Very Welcome !!! .... Hee Hee Hee !!

+++ Most interesting analogies ; )

**Indeed !!! ... As This Would Be ... Of One "Example" ... Of Perception !!

you should understand of course. he he he he he ... i am not even an astronomer,

**You May Be ... More Then You Think !! ... You Just Need ... Some Help ... In Changing Your Focus !!

+++ Thanks a lot ; ) Awesome worlds...

**You Are Welcome !! .... Yes !! ... Most Awesome To See/Perceive ... To Behold !!

**Oh Indeed !! ... And Of Course ... You Can ... Go There ... If So Desired !!

+++ Yes ; ) And hope that we can live too for a better world, not just disappear... so much beauty, marvels... of which plenty might be so endangered... this makes my conservation work pale as nothing... it is almost meaningless after all, it is not only unsufficiently based and extremely weakly supported (as are even the major conservation programs in comparison to major enterprises and political mismanagements)... but also largely irreal... what would it really serves for? It should serve in a world of wisdom and truth, a world about which persons like me use to dream and to fight for... but which is actually quite far from our present reality... a world that perhaps could some day really be... but without a
harsh or worst case nightmare of what you relate about... isn´t it?

**You Will Be Most Pleasantly Surprised & Happy ... Of The "New Earth" !!

**If You Have ... Some Months To Observe !! ... To ... Check This Out !!

+++ If so... which i hope become years instead of months...
perhaps you can help us? What do i know... you perhaps know much better... or perhaps not... please help if it is possible nevertheless... if it becomes necessary... for keeping a worst case scenario very very very very
"irreal".

**We Will Do ... What We Can ... Of What Is Allowed !!

+++ Not exactly the methods... but the assumptions and the
interpretations... which you had help me to review from the base. He he he

**The Methods Too ... Need Correcting !! ... Need "Upgrading" !! .... Along With ... Assumptions, Interpretations, Ect. ... Oh Indeed !! ... As All Things ... Need A "Foundation" ... A Secure Foundation ... On Which To Work From ... To Build On !! ... Without This ... All That Is Above ... Crumbles
Back Into Dust !!

++ Might i be in error for looking at angles and positions as they are?

**Yes !! ... From That View/Viewpoint ... You Would Not Know ... How They Actually Are !!

+++ Most surely from that point! Yes of course, indeed! he he he he he How blind i was... he he he

**Well You Just Needed ... To "Change Your Glasses" !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

**These Are Not ... Hard Evidences/Proofs !! ... They Are Of ... Limited Awareness/Perceptions !!

+++ They were so indeed. Thanks once more for your hints.

**You Are Very Welcome !!

Best hopes for a better world ; )

**Indeed So !! ... And Of This ... You Will Be Pleased !!

Thanks.

You Are Very Welcome !!

A Scientist who Cares

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 584092

ST In BG, can you tell me where L. Ron Hubbard obtained most of his information?

**One Might Say ... "He Talked To ... "Disembodied Energies" ... To "Spirits" !!

He believed humans are spiritual beings enmeshed and
imprisoned on Earth.

**No ... Not "Imprisoned On Terra/Earth" !! ... And Each Body Houses ... "Energies" ... The "Energy Essence" ... Which Animates The Body !! ... A Matrix ... A Small Portion ... That Connects To & Of All Lives & Lifetimes !!

How would he know that?

**He Asked !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: S. who C.: User ID: 588466

**Terrestrial Sciences !!! ... We Often Deal With ... Cleaning Up Their Messes !! ... Of Laboratory Experiments ... That Backfired ... In Which These Experiments Were Presented As "Successful" (The Real Test
Results Hidden Away !!) ... Then Such Is Applied ... In An Open Environment !! ... With No Care Or Concern ... To What Could Happen ... To Life ... To The Environment !! ... All For The Love Of Money ... For Power/Prestige ... Fame ... & To Keep Their "Research Contracts" Flowing In !! ... So Much Pain & Suffering On Terra/Earth ... (& Yes On Other Worlds !!) ... Has Been
Achieved ... In Same/Similar Fashions !!

+++ I understand or at least, i assure you that i agree to some extent. It is fortunate to know (well to read) that it has been similar in other worlds.

++++ I just misinterpreted... it is unfortunate but... i meant that it is fortunate to know that it can be dealt with, than the challenges can be surpass, that better worlds are possible, that life can thrive and that intelligence reigns the universe. It is very fortunate to know that we are not alone as a civilization and that even while we face gargantuan challenges and dangers... other had overcome similar threats and that they are out there.

It is fortunate to know this. To know there is HOPE.

**We Understand !! ... Yes ... There Is Always HOPE !! ... (Yes ... Even With Those Termed: "Humans" !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!)

A Scientist who Cares

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Pics of Nibiru?
[link to www.waftit.com]

Greetings: sasha: User ID: 190758

Well ok ST , what about the jerseys and sports memorabilia sold in stores/shopping, and the video games NFL based and all the other means to make money besides just the ticket sales, there are many outlets, food beer sold at games ect, lots of chances to make money besides ticket sales.

**Indeed Josh ... Of Merchandising & Of Consignments ... Of Monies Made From "Royalties" ... Still It Takes Much More Then This ... To Support A Franchise ... & To Keep It Going/Active !!

**It Will Arrive ... Much Sooner Then ... 2-3 Years !!

**They Are Sure !! ... We Monitor !!

they are sure as in the Zetas?

** "They Are Sure" ... As In ... "Terrestrial Sources" Are Sure !! ... We Are ... Very Very Sure !!! ... Along With This ... We Actively Monitor !! ... Moreso Then ... "Terrestrial Sources" Do ... & Of Course ... With More Advanced/Sensitive Equipment !!

and you conduit and other of your terrestrial friends monitor? is this correct?

**There Are Those ... Who Have The Jobs/Duties ... Of Monitoring !!

well if Nibiru is doing what many suggest and is
rapidly approaching, 2009 would be the best bet for the year of the first passage?

**It Is A ... With All Things ... A "Guesstimate" ... Based On Information ... That Is Known !! ... If Things ... "Stay On Course" !!

a guestimate indeed, now that latest vision, is curious but
we'll see if Jan 10th 2009 is the start of things.

**The Dream/Vision Was Shared ... With Permission Of The Conduit .... For Information/Use !! .... Of This ... Of What Will Transpire ... We Will Await !!
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If you interpreted your vision correctly then we are in trouble,

**Granted !!

yeah this would be PERFECT lineup for the changes to happen this MONTH because you have 2006 visions of football games

**Yes Indeed !!! ... Of Football Games !!

and children loading up on busses with teachers and getting the hell out of dodge,

**They Were Heading To ... "High Ground" ... Of The Interstate 75 ... Slightly East ... Of Bowling Green State University ... Bowling Green, Ohio !!

**As To ... "Getting The Hell Out Of Dodge" ... It Would Be Wise !! ... As There Is A Volcano ... That Will Surface There !!

but Saturday isn't a school day, hmmmmmmmmmm,

**This Is True !!

well could start on Friday and go through Saturday

**Perhaps So !!

maybe the games will be cancelled cause of the changes, we'll see

**This Will Depend ... On What Transpires !!

but for some reason i'm not worried as i think we will have more time in this form past January 10th 2009 and beyond SOME months yet,

**Perhaps ?? ... Then Again ... Perhaps Not ???

but then again it may or may not happen, its speculation at this point.

**It Is ... Of The Conduit ... An Evaluation ... Of A Vision/Dream ... That Was Given !!
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ST, you could add the latest vision to your musical visions and update it, that would be cool.

**Yes It Would Be "Informative" !! ... However ... The Conduit Has Been Busy ... With "Other Things" !! ... Does Not Know When ... That He Will Be Able ... To Update This !! ... For The Moment ... It Remains As Is !!
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ST, some people on here, i noticed at least 2 people have used Enki as their name, and speak as they are Enki

**They Are NOT Enki !! ... They Are ... "Want To Be "Enki's" !!

or have connections to Enki,

**Perhaps They Do ?? ... Perhaps They Do Not !!

as to insulting as your were the true ENKI correct?

**They Are Ignorant !! ... So This Is Not A Personal Slight/Insult !! ... As Such ... Of The Correction ... It Will Be In The Manner Of Schooling/Information !! ... And Of This ... Perhaps Enki Himself ... Being The Teacher ??
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January 10th 2009 ST doesn't give much moments to evacuate with the Zetas or whoever entity's will rescue the beings off the planet in time for the changes, how can this be?

**The Date Given ... Was That Given ... In A Dream/Vision ... & Interpreted By The Conduit !! ... And If This Is To Transpire ... Then Things Will Proceed ... As They Will !!
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**In Response To: El'Capitan Charisma ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

Quoting: El'Capitan Charisma

"ST,

Would it be a bad thing to join a Wicca or pagan group not to worship or such nonsense but to pay my respects to the ancient gods which are us and our family and friends back then?

My wife is bitching I need get our a meet new people. I know a lot of those groups are family oriented.

Anyone else here on this thread you advice on this is welcome!"

ST states you shouldn't really worship anyone. pay your respects to ancient of beings is alright but ST doesn't like the term GOD as that is a religious construct.

**Indeed !!! ... Paying Proper Respect Is Honorable !! ... Worshipping These Beings As "Gods" ... Is Not Honorable !!!

Capitan i think we have more time than the 10th of January
because that wouldn't give enuff time for evacuation purposes by the et's and others who will do the rescuing.

**Well Then Again ... We Have "More Advanced" ... Rescuing Techniques !!! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

Take care, Josh. sometimes ornery and mischievous

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG