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Greetings: Laddie: User ID: 595790

1/31/2009 11:22 PM

Pollution Fogs view more than you would think, yesterday it was very bright, and today I saw them puttingbout chem trails again!! Arrg! Purposefully dimming the stars so people wouldn't freak out when they see how close Nibiru is!!

**Yes ... A Most Purposeful Action ... The Chemtrailing The Skies !! ... Of One Reasoning ... To Prevent ... World Wide Panic !!
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**In Response To: Anonymous Coward : User ID: 604787

Oh its true, (Of Nibiru & Nibiru's Approach) No doubt.

**No Doubt Whatsoever !!

The sooner you realize that the sooner you can go beyond and to the next step

**Indeed So !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: angelpbj: User ID: 604787

the following movie is incredible and worth seeing,

[link to www.youtube.com]

**The Conduit Is Not Able To View ... As He Has Disabled The Viewing ... On His Computing System !!

It was posted today in the "bright-star-like-object" thread. It's supposed to have been filmed in the direction of Venus,

**Hmmmm !!! ... Will Take A Look !!

but it doesn't look like Venus AT ALL!!.......

**Yes Indeed !! ... As It Is NOT ... The Planet Venus !!
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Hi ST,

you said:

"... If Nibiru Wanted To ... "Appear/Cloak" Itself ... With The "Look Of Venus" ... Then ... That Would Not Be A Problem !!"

Does this mean that Nibiru has a "will"?

As me and you have?

**A Will ??? ... A Consciousness ... A Thinking Process ... Able To Make Decisions ?? ... Let's Say It Is A "Conjoined Effort" ... It Is Alive ... And Also Has ... "Directional Control" !! ... Think Of This As A Planet ... As Well As A ... Planetary Ship !!
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Can Nibiru appear as a quadrilateral or a hexagonal shape?

**It Can Appear ... As To What It Wishes To Appear !!

If someone is filming Nibiru, is it possible that it changes shape in front of the camera?

**It Is Possible To Do !! ... As It Has The Ability To Change !!

Does Nibiru have strange atmospheric phenomena that are similar to a "pattern of shades"? In this case is it somewhat similar to Jupiter?

**It Is Different Then ... The Planet Jupiter !!

Thanks ST!

You Are Very Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Regardless there is a PX or not, You should have at least some respect and good behavior.

The common man is not dumb, rather those, who are looking down to them and do pretend they are MORE as another. This does shown, not only a young soul, but also a soul who did have a big mouth full of spirituality but not does not reflect his/her actions to his/her statement.

There is one red line, a common vibration, I do recognize in threads related to PX, Zeta (this or NancyL)

There is hardness, bitterness, naive belief and all want to destroy Earth. There are ugly avatars popping up, such as a dead body of a grey they put a Hat on with BLACK eyes as most do have BLUE eyes, white skin, and so on) You bash the common man, You consider all dumb or an opponent who do not agree. And there is a low level of empathy and love. Not only by those who
'follow' the statements, the theory so far, but by the posters too.

But All of You are part of the One.

And related to the posters. Shame on You, You bring innocent people who are naive to belief Your stuff, to that point they cancel their medical interventions. They do sell their homes. They do move to other places or quit there jobs. The CIA should put You in jail to abuse the innocent people.

Because until now, no proof is brought forward. Only pretentions. Fairy tales.
A floating planet, who can grow in size, who can position from one point to another in a snap. Who can change color. Well, I never seen a, iron-like mass who can expand in 3D in a snap, without injecting matter. Or what we call matter.

If ALL of You (posters and believers) are so happy to work to destroy this place. TO disable the hard work of those who try to transform this place. By Light and work. Well, I suggest You buy a gun, shoot yourself or if You are E.T. or so-called Elder. Go back to the place You belong.
Take Your kind with You, but leave this Earth to those who do respect it, who likes the plants, animals and who give love as best they can. Who do have good intentions.

So all, back off. Go to the place You belong, without Love and Insight.
You don't like this place, back off.
Go to Your Hellisch place,
with darkness, without love, but bitterness.
Don't make Earth alike.

May the REAL Elder of the system of the Two Lighting Sun support my case. They known Who they Are, as They do monitor this too.
May Lyra and Sirius be my Withness.

May the 'Feline' and 'Insectoid-like' races kick Your ass out with Your propaganda.

THERE WILL BE NO PX IN 2009.

All the Best,

VVizz of Ur

Josh, it is evident that i meant it is getting closer... so its "apparent" size... from our perspective... increases. However, strictly speaking... everything is growing, the universe is expanding. Take care : )

S. who C.

We can't convince those who have chosen to ignore, and you have no need to fight for those who already see the situation for what it is.

With Love VVizz,

Yolgnu.

You are on Track, You known it.

All the Best,

VVizz of Ur

First... your acts are not after your words... however, second... you just make me laugh as crazy. he he he he ehe



Nevertheless... third... it is a different comprehension.

When it pass the ecliptic everything will go wild. Take care, at least make some preparations... it is not exactly what is being told on this..... communications, but quite... similar?

S. who C.

I had think about this and it looks quite plaussible, however it seems it is not so simple... Saturn and perhaps also Uranus and Neptune affect the mean ("normal") equation as the positions for Jupiter change slowly through the solar short cycles. All of the few solar maximum that i (we) are able to check against the positions of the planets show larger/strongest activity when either Jupiter and/or Saturn comes into their perihelions or close to them (closer to the Sun). Interesting, isn´t it? Thanks BTW. Take care ; )

S. who C.

Yes With Every Heart Beat My Friend...!

I keep my ship heading in the right direction.



Yolgnu.

You would not laugh if You see ME in Full-deployed Energy form.

As Your level of Perception and Insight, currently, does not raise enough to make an objective statement of my Intentions, Behavior, Insight or Love. You do not have access to the information of my acts, whom I may consider it a success. You may consider it as You like, but You have no data. Resource/Data gathering is basic in a study, to process and finally make Your statement, which is not a conclusion until proof follows. In fact You are not even close to the basic level to be a scientist. It would surprise me if You have a PhD on Earth.

The words, I told was in the same way, as could be described as Your ST in BG. Black Humor.

IF You believe there is a PX, and IF you believe the statements of ST are true, then You have no reason to do things to prepare, to change Your behaviour, to extend medical intervention.

My point in those words are obvious. IF those statements are true, You can do what you want, you face dead. In that theory there will be an INSTANT Freeze after passage. So i told it that way, You maybe understand this better...

All seems so excited. So brave ! The WOW-effect. Curiosity as the mouse sniffle the cat. But You will sh.t into Your pence if that PX would pass, the way it is described by most. Means burned, engraved, smashed or frozen sh.t.

So wake up.
Beware where Your Thoughts leads You.

All the Best,

VVizz of Ur

Well... perhaps not exactly in the summer... but indeed there are several candidates? Isn´t it?

Venus is what it is, as well as Sirius.

Hey S who C, very interesting!

Do you have a link where I could check some data?

Take care you too!!:-)
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Greetings ST in BG and represented ones,

Thanks for your responses.

First i would like to stand that some people here might be misidentifying Venus, Sirius and/or other bright objects... and/or that this needed lack of clarity is what might be making for the confusion. I also want to stand that i don´t think it is wise to clear this confusion away, any more than to insist that Venus is what it is as well as Sirius. We might be reffering to the same object but i do not want to make it even clearer than what it already is.

I was initially wrong because i tought Arcturus was too bright for being Arcturus... but it is what it is, of course... and i had more than noticed the other bright misterious object. It is so bizarre, it looks like having a faint green glow as if it was expelling plasma just as a star... and it changes its colors, and it is not exactly... well... completely spherical. oh, wow wow wow. Weird things.

Best hopes for a better world ; )

I would like to comment on some of your comments, still ; )


A Scientist who Cares


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The system is binary and has an orbital revolution of about 26,000 years... which explains the precession of the equinoxes...

**No ... It Does Not Explain The Termed: ... "Precession Of The Equinoxes" !! ... Also The 26,000 Years Is Not Accurate Either !!

+ It doesn´t?! But then what? Is it Nibiru itself which explains the precession of the equinoxes by its closest/stronger influence? And what is the periodicity of the precession if not about 26 ky?

+ If it is Nibiru then how do you explain the almost invariant (well, actually slightly variable) tilts documented in prior history?

+ And what about the tilts on the orbits toward the D_S?


but you said just that it was Nibiru planet what is coming... and not the star... indeed : )

**Yes ... This Planet ... Or "Planetary Spaceship" ... Is Coming !!

+ yes of course... quite possible.


Actually Sol is the first influence, Sols sister is the second one...

**Well ... No !!

+ Well... i refer to mean situations. Of course this is variable up to the distances and the distribution, of course your Nibiru could get "the first influence" if it comes very close... or at least, perhaps the second one. But as for most of the time... it is evident as i said.

**Many "Influences" Are Happening/Occurring ... In The Same Moment !! ... It Is Not ... A "Pick & Choose" ... As To "Influences" ... But Of ... The Closeness/Proximity Of These Influences ... And The Strength Of Influence
... And It's Effects !! ... For Example: ... Both Your Sun/Star "Sol" Is Influencing ... & Nibiru !! ... But As Nibiru Is Closer & Moves Closer ... It's Influences Would Be Greater !! ... However ... This Does Not Cancel Out ... Of What Influence(s) ... Your Sun/Star Is Having !! ... Of Which This Could "Blend In" ... Of Things/Energies/Effects ... Which Are Happening ... Which Will Happen !!

+ I agree... it was somewhat the same i thought, but i tryied to typify the average/mean/usual distribution/spatial arrangement... of course it is variable, but i think it has patterns, harmonic ones.


and what it happening now is for a third influence, a planet orbiting both stars.

**Yes !! ... Your Star/Sun ... Called: Sol ... & A Dark Star/Sun ... Much Further Out !!

Yes... and this incoming planet... with the influences of all the other planets, specially those giant "twins".



+ Swampy ST... you said the same indeed... but i quoted the
planet rather than the star.

**No ... Simply A Differing Idea !! ... The Dark Star/Sun ... Which Is Farther Out ... Would Not Effect Terra/Earth Directly !! ... However It Would Influence Nibiru ... Which Would Effect ... Both Your Sun/Star "Sol"
... & Terra/Earth !! ... So All These Things ... May Be Thought As Separate ... Yet Are Connected To & With Each Other ... Either Of A Direct Effect ... On A Indirect Effect !!

+ So you are saying that all the main effects (other than Sol and some harmonic resonances with the "twins") that keep the tilts of the orbits and the rotational axes of planets on the system (around Sol) are because of N and that the D_S effects are despicable in comparison, although they exist? Then, if this is what happens... the precession of the equinoxes really cannt change as we thought, of course.


I will not insist, make it a mess, i understand it was too explicative... too complete for insisting on it.

**Well It Is ... Rather Complicated !! ... But In The Way Of Functioning ... Rather Simple !!

+ Probably... oh i at least want to learn about...

+ Perhaps you do not want to make it a mess, you have not so far... perhaps you really know about... i would not insist on asking others or encouraging curiosity at the evidences around... as at least for trying to avoid... you know what... which might nevertheless might result unavoidable to some extent...


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**From What We & The Conduit Have Witnessed ... Your Planet Terra/Earth ... Will Be Of These Natures ... Of Ice/Snow ... Covering The Entire Surface !!

+ I stand for the evidences i know pretty well... but giving the benefit of doubt for a moment on this... i would think that this is extremely horrible, unfair, scarying... as there would be nothing to do about... and that it is so upsetting/sad that so many marvels would be lost in such an improbable situation... well, nevertheless... it is probably not as you had explained. So many evidence against your point and none for it. Fortunately so.



Nevertheless the chains of amazing biodiversity had never been interrupted completely since the Cambrian radiation... not completely... but nearly so about five times we know as massive extinctions... just nearly, farther from the near,,, he he he,,, fortunately : )

**Again ... Each Passage Is Different !! ... So To Attempt To Use "Old Data" (Which Is Misinterpreted !!) ... To Support As Evidence ... What Will/Will Not Happen ... Would Be Futile !! ... We Know Of How Things Will Be ... As It Is In ... Our Ancient Of Records !! ... However We Cannot Report ... Of All Of This !! ... Only Give ... "Glimpses" !!

+ Well, hmmmmmm ... of course i am convinced otherwise.




Well, Darwin's "crap" was actually quite visionary for his time... it is even pretty much close to the truth...

**It Is Quite Far ... From The Truth !!

+ Quite close and quite visionary for his time, for what the society was in those times. Interesting that you do not understand on that... or perhaps not...


Darwin's crap, bah...

**Of This ... It Is What We State !! ... Of "One's Terrestrial Observations" ... Which Were & Are Incomplete ... Of The Knowing ... Of The "Full Picture Of Things" ... And Making This ... Into A False Science
!!

+ Although it was incomplete... it was a huge step forward... toward more complete comprehensions... on which a lot of things had been done, from which there is a reasonable approachment to many truths/understandings.


just that was missing... his work has been overused and even mythifyied indeed...

**It Was From The Start ... The Beginning ... Wrongfully Used !! ... & Then Made Into A "Science" (Based On Theories & Conjectures) ... All It's Own !!

+ Not exactly... it was and is based on observations which can be reviewed and in many cases repeated if needed for... it was not after wild imagination or prejudices. The whole idea has been improved through the advancements on genetics and through the work of biogeographers and paleontologists. I repeat, there had been overexploitations and misinterpretations of the evolutionary sciences as well, i concede that. We have many things to learn.


but you make a very short service for your high intelligence on calling it that...

**No ... We Do Not !! ... This Has Led To Many ... To Much Misunderstanding ... & Non-Learning There !! ... As Much As The "Belief" ... Of Religion ... Of "The Creator" !! ... Both Sides Having ... One Tiny Piece Of The Puzzle ... But Thinking ... They Have The Whole Puzzle ... The Whole Understanding ... Of Which They Do Not !!

+ Hmmmmmm ... i never think i had the whole understanding... but as i said, there are some that did follow such pathways. However this has to do with human psychology and not with evolutionary sciences. So... it is a different comprehension.



but, it is somewhat expectable... isn't it? You make harsh
critics of almost all of our science, you know... !!!

**We Make Harsh Critics ... Of That We Consider To Be ... Of Rank Stupidity !! ... And Non Learning !!

+ Hmmmmmmm ... it is so EASY to make critics... and ignore others self development... that´s why i have doubts about you being ..... the "real mcCoys", sorry if i mispell ; )
I am gratefull with you for your desire to open minds, but sometimes... you ... well... you are so...ornery, of course.




**Even With The Harshest Of Passages ... Life Will Go On !! ... As This Is A Component Of Interventionism !!

+ And probably of evolution, even without interventionism?!





and perhaps some interventionism? ,,, dear ornery ST ?

**Of What It Takes ... Of What Is To Happen !!

... Of Life On The Surface Of Terra/Earth ... In 4th Density ... Being Refreshed & Pristine Once Again !! ...

+ Pristine concept it just an abstraction...

**In Comparison To What You Have There ... It IS ... Quite Pristine ... Of The Air, Water, Soil, Fire Elements ... Of These Things ... Purified !! ... & The Remnants Of Such Pollutions ... & Those Things That Pollute ... Neutralized & Nullified !!

+ Oh, but there is not such a thing... what might happen is not related to humans or any other being... it is just natural. Oh well... perhaps some beings could intervene in some ways, ok... but what i meant is that it is intelligence after biology, and biology after geology (with some feedback in both cases)... and geology after astrophysics... and not the other way round. What could happen, if harsh, would obviously be far more damaging that the sum of human intervention on the planet throughout its later history (possible exception for playing with genes and with atoms).



Though Plants, Animals & Other Forms ... Would Need To Be
"Restocked" ... Added Back In !! ...

+ Perhaps some?

**On The Surface ... There Will Be No "Higher Order" Forms Of Life !! ... Only Those Lower Forms ... That Would Be Able To Survive ... Of The Ice & Snow ... In One Form/State ... Or Another !!

+ In such an extreme situation, which i doubt most seriously... yes of course... probably then, unfortunately... but the evidences are overwhelming against that.



Ecological Areas/Eco Spheres Reestablished ...

+ Perhaps helped?




**This Is Not Such As ... A "Submarine Volcano" !! ... You Cannot Compare Of One Thing ... To A Much Greater Event ... That Will Happen ... Planetary Wide !!

+ Why not?

Quick marvelous repopulation of everything!!! even in such
extremely harsh event!



**Of Such Knowledge ... Of Such Knowing ... Many Things Can Happen/Occur ... At The Speed Of Thought !! ... For Example ... What Might In One Moment Be A Wasteland ... Can In Another Moment ... Be Transformed ... Into A Lush
Garden !! ... An Instant ... Transmutation !!

+ Hmmmmmm ; ) It is easier to "transmutate" what is not so... destroyed... isn´t it?!

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+ Yes of course... but when?

**When It Occurs !!


+ Evident... hope it is not really so harsh ; )

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Sorry for so much... curiosity... it is so... aroused now.

**Most Understandable !!

Thanks ST ; )

You Are Very Welcome !!

S. who C.

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Vvizz, I just consider ideas... nor beliefs. Actually i had disagreements with what is being said here but it seems interesting for me. Thats all. Now calm down and be happy.



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Best hopes for all beings ; )

If You mastership happiness on Earth, You have become to that Mastership to leave this place or You became settled in illusion.

Currently I prefer to be grim and calm. It is more in balance with the current vibration.



Sure, I suggested that one to the owner of the board for some reasons (this one, or the previous, dunno). This account, I use, is a re-activated account...



This is not an excuse to behave that way, You put the life of other people into danger. Proof of that is, the case Stevie who was put in jail to behave in a manner what could not be tolerated.

For me there is no difference between Mr Obama and an innocent man or women, who transforms his/her life in that way, by manipulating the mind by others, or let him/her belief things, so it becomes a danger for his/her health, life etc.

Humans are beacons of Thought (what's create and attract!). It is a common technique to abuse the mind, by suggestion, hypnotic techniques, repeating events which translates to the human mind as something (s)he increase 'worth', 'value' or 'trust' to it.
One of the basic steps to reach Insight, is indeed, to see those impacts. To release Yourself from those conditioning actions of society, humans, belief, culture etc.

So those who perform a systematic action to manipulate people with lies, with fear, with illusions are doing nothing more as those who did abuse Humankind to control them. To rule them. To exploit them.

The source of this is often ONE. A whole of people who are unhappy and not at all calm in their way of live. So they don't have the balance of Trust, Belief and Love. They hook on 'science', 'dominance', 'power', 'control' but they can't handle the Divine Power inside All Creation. The One who IS, because that Energy looks through those acts, and does act in different ways on Earth. As it seems it doesn't.

And last but not least. The disclaimer is not an excuse for Your own behavior, to lower the limit, to lower the Ethics, because if You make someone belief things, by Your actions, and that one is naive,reverses his/her life due to the statements. So that person is not strong enough to find Truth and believes the false Path. Well, I say You, You are responsable in full to abuse Your Brother or Sister.
And this will be noticed.

So when I wrote this, I saw this image, for the first time, in the left corner

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So i presume, myself, well connected.

All the Best,

VVizz of Ur

ST, i am curious about this:

How would you explain the hexagonal patterns on the atmosphere (?) of Saturn´s polar regions?

Do this occurs also in other giant planets?

All is relative, and all is related... indeed.

Thanks.

Vvizz, i never had abused anyone and never will. I respect your opinion, but it appears that you do not respect mine. You even send me a stinky link that make weird things to the computer i was on and you want to talk to me about love? Please. We have to change our selfishness, our ornery feelings... among many other things.

I want you no offense. For what i might think about ST in BG communications its up to me... as what you think is up to you... i told before that i have disagreements with what is being told/discussed (?) but that i found some interesting things in the thread... from time to time... it is a very curious and intriguing thread and a very interesting board.

Right now i have the sensation that typing here is a complete loss of time... for this is quite uninteresting... it is just like the rain of negative information i got some time ago when i tryied to rise conscience/awareness about how marvelous, how precious and incredibly awesome is life on earth... which is how i arrived to ST in BG´s thread.

I hope and will ever hope and work for a society of peace, truth, reason, love, justice, responsability and real sustainability... a society we are still far from achieving and for which we might face also some natural threats... but not so extreme, likely far from the extremes mentioned in this somewhat weird, intriguing thread.

All is relative and all is related,

I stand for the best for a better civilization and for hope.

Best hopes for a better world ; )

S. who C.

But... the doubt will ever... exist. Specially now with the world being so weird. S. who C.

Sorry VVizz but you are way out of line with your comments in regards to me. You are taking one sentence of mine and then trying to use it make a large amount of assumptions about me. I care very much about the animals, this planet as well as the people on it, even those I refer to as sheeple.

They are not dumb. I just wish they would see what is right in front of their faces. Every day they are drained of their money by large corporations, governments and and such through taxes and fees and the controlling of the price of necessities such as food and clothing. They are taught to buy useless things, pay attention to pointless sporting events and television shows, poison themselves with improper foods and medications. Many are more interested in the latest celebrity gossip then such mysteries as the nature of their existence and the wonder of all things in the universe.

They just follow the herd and continue to be dumbed down by numerous things, all while defending the very things that poison them. I do not hate them at all... it is not their fault this has happened to them. But they need to WAKE UP. Period.

So please, direct your anger elsewhere.

Like you I'm tired of seeing the suffering on this planet. I feel that if Nibiru is the necessary and natural way to finally clean this place up so all can move on to a better world, then so be it. You are worried that are thoughts will manifest this destruction. Well even if that was true, our thoughts would also be manifesting the new pristine cleansed world we are all expecting afterwards.

But personally I do not believe the thoughts of those here on this 3rd density vibrational plane are capable of manifesting such things.

What will happen will happen regardless of our thoughts.

It would be too dangerous for beings of such a low vibrational plane and learning stage as ours to have such creational powers.

All I can tell you is it seems there is large amounts of evidence that Nibiru is real. I doubt all the ancient cultures are mistaken. I doubt that the increasing seismic activity and volcanic activity are just a coincidence. I doubt the magnetosphere abberations are just normal variations. I doubt the economic collapse is just a case of bad political policies. I doubt the strange weather patterns being experienced worldwide are just regular occurances. I doubt the mirky haze that appears after airplanes fly past the sun is just normal airplane contrails. I doubt that flowers blooming out of season and birds being confused as to their magnetic orientation is normal.

Something is happening.

But please, do not make wide assumptions about me based on one comment that you interpreted a certain way. I often make this mistake myself and am trying my best to stop doing this.

Thanks.

Why do You impersonate Yourself with the things I say, some 'Beings' (in broad sense) do ? If You take it on You, You have to look inside You why You did take it on You.



I don't have Your email. I only posted a link to a picture on this board (a link to Godlike) If there is something taking Your computer, You have to look to other places. Right now You make a conclusion, but You did not verify all possibilities.

Currently, I am not the stinky one or the one who delivers the stinky in a burned, engraved, smashed or phrozen way. And a lot of supporters seems to like it ! It looks pretty destructive behavior. More, it looks selfish behavior, because it's not, because some people want to destroy this place, I or other people would want the same. If I am incarnated on a place, which I consider temporary my living place, I do defend that place with all means I do have. In respect for the hospitality of that Being who accepted me to live on that place. Earth does live. And if I need to hit with my Stick the ugly faces of those who want to destroy it, Elder or Not, I will do !

We kicked once that possibility, PX, we do it again. Earth, including all live needs not to be destroyed, it needs to be transformed to better, without such drastic ways as trashing the baby with the bathwater. It is like the methods of the Caveman ! So rude.

If they could move all animals, plants and people of good intentions, maintain their mental, emotional, physical integrity as comfort, maybe I would say, yes. But they can't. They want to work through 'dead' of the physical body. I reject that possibility, because it is an abuse of the freedom of life and expression.

The only method to achieve that is, to create two Energetic planes and to move all that what may not be affected, with maintain of their mental, emotional, physical integrity as comfort. I doubt this PX, described in this thread, can do that tricky one.

I don't see any advantage to destroy physical bodies of plants, animals and humans at all. The design is good as it is.
It has not to be altered or be better !
Because that's relative too.



Really, there is no one on this board who have ever been close to make an offense to me. Because I am pretty skilled to handle my Ego. I talk in furious way, but this is the Nature of My Internal Flame.



Sure. However, beware what You Belief, because You get what You Belief.



There is a lot of old wine in new sacks, as some deduced from the boards, some valid information and some information, I can not validate or I do reject. Especially related to the matter Love, Insight and the Nature of the Omnipotent, Omnipresent.

Once there was a man who wanted to find Enlightment. He went to a local guru, but was rejected. He did persist, but the guru did too. So finally the guru, wanted to get rid of him, and told him he would give him a test to complete before he could join teachings. The guru told him to take 3 goats, to go to the wilderness and to return with 20 goats. So he could donate that to the temple. So the man went to the wilderness for many years. After many years, he returned to the guru. The guru was looking to him and told him, You are Enlighted ! How did You do that. You reached a level beyond me. Who was Your guru ? The man did answer, I donate those 20 goats to the temple, I have 10 more for my living. I got Teachings, but not from any man on Earth. I got it from the wilderness.



You will progress much faster if You read the works of
Neale Donald Walsch, Elisabeth Haich or the work of the Dutch man Jozef Rulof.
[link to www.theageofchrist.com]

as to read doom and gloom.



We are pretty close to achieve this. The economic collapse is a trigger to awake people, so they can start to share what they have.

You don't need to work for a society of peace. You can start Your own organization to learn people to share and barter goods. This can be done in Your own neighborhood. So this step will be the first to learn them to love each other. As children, share the ball or the cookie, and You do make friends.
All adults are still children in a big body.



We are all clever and stupid.



You do not have to stand, You have to act.

All the Best,

VVizz of Ur

Looks like VVizz has hijacked this thread/....

You can't blame the water well, there is an echo, when You shout inside.
I do have the right to answer, if they do address to me. Most often, I did reply, when they address to me. So this is not hijacking.
However I do agree, things moved to my focal position. I would not consider this bad at all. Maybe there is still hope for some, on Earth.

Would this momentum, this event of 'alternative vision' have impact in this thread ? Almost nothing, this will sink to the bottom in this maelstorm of pessimism, empty words and statements as the need to fulfill curiosity, the wish for selfdestruction. This little momentum is not a thread at all for this topic. So don't be afraid this toy of some would be infected or destroyed. After all, the challenge would disappear. To determine the Path, the Future, the Outcome You really want. The nature of music You like. You can love the music of Mozart, or prefer most music, you have of Heavy Metal. I prefer the first. You don't see both styles together, performed on stage. They don't match quiet well.

Anyway, in 'time', You get what You wished, You feared or believed. Because You are Creators too.
Words from the Big Mickey Mouse. The BMM as replacement for the word 'God'. Hip, isn't it.

But I do honor some rules of communication, so here You have the playground back, to gloom and doom, to poison Your Thoughts and Heart. To finally make Your own Future, so don't blame Us afterwards !

All the Best,

VVizz of Ur

A/C 585606 I won't copy your post as it is very long.

I too noticed certain changes and in my research I found glp.

Photoperiodic plants are flowering out of season - now the flowering of these plants can be manipulated with a light source for the cut flower market (forcing) but what is the cause of the flowering that we are observing in our environment - a light source perhaps.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The heliosphere of the sun has shrunk - where has the matter gone?
If we were in a binary system (as most systems are) then this would be explainable as we would say that our sun is losing mass to its binary twin.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Binary_star Thread: SUN'S HELIOSPHERE HAS SHRUNK AS MUCH AS 25% IN THE LAST 10 YEARS ALONE!

This website exists for entertainment purposes only we must all make our observations and do our own research and arrive at conclusions or no conclusions based on that.

I just present my observations.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Sorry, link given above - scroll down to 'mass transfer and accretion'

Yes, its entertaining, but don't you think true knowledge can come out here?

ST has explained alot of things that make sense and some that don't.

ST the other afternoon around 1 30 i woke up. i was upstairs, and as i set my alarm for 2 pm in the afternoon as i work from 4 pm to 4 am so i would get adequate sleep/rest. I heard the alarm clock going off, and when i finnally had the will to go downstairs to turn it off the alarm clock said 2 12 pm , 12 minutes past the time the clock was beep beep beep beep, i was like oh, hmmmmm, that 2 12 again.

When i was younger in form i remember seeing out the window at the home i grew up where i am now, and seen flying beings outside, then i went to eat some chips or some food on the table, this i could have swore was reality but i asked my mom , i don't know what she said back then, i think i dreamed it but it felt real.

I always wanted/wished i could fly when i was younger and when i woke up i was exited that i could easily fly then come to realize oh that was just a dream, bummer....

ST when i was in younger form i always liked singing into the shower head gargling water and singing and would take long showers and some family said josh you taking such long showers wasting all the hot water, ect. I was even loud enuff that family could hear me, could i have been a recording artist or a singer in a past life?

I enjoy playing the drums to as i did in school.

My brother steve would sing to and he could memorize and get words much more accurate than i could , i am not good at memorizing words but could have been in a nother concurrent life.

I know how s who c states that this website is for entertainment purposes but that doesnt mean that nibiru isnt real, and your not giving out false info and just role playing and trying to put on a act just for the entertainment , your giving out real info that is really warning the people on tera/earth what is about to happen, because we will know sooner or later that this information you are translating is indeed fact.

We will know soon enuff and i am at peace with what is going to happen although i get nervous and a little on edge with what will happen but people can go at any time and their are so many things out their that no one can know for a fact what can and can't happen and how the creators made / created everything from the earth to the cosmos , they don't know the variables and all that is possible cause they termed humans in this form in the bodies didnt create or design the cosmos. so anything is possible withen reason.

I'm ready for change and not the kind of change that obama speaks off, hee,hee,hee....

WoW , nibiru past passed Jupiter, that means any moment now, must be closer than ever , your best ET guess is looking like a most likely scenario for the timing of the first passage, take care, your friend, Josh.

[link to www.spaceweather.com]

WoW , nibiru past passed Jupiter, that means any moment now, must be closer than ever , your best ET guess is looking like a most likely scenario for the timing of the first passage.
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should be reaching Mars soon?/....

Hi ST, thanks for bringing hope to humanity, not for these shells inparticular that are diseased ridden but hope for the energies withen these shells/bodies.

As Nibiru now aproaches mars and get 's slung shot around the sun we must come to peace with ourselves. I am so happy now that nibiru is finnally really really close and the evacuation process will begin in a extremely short period of time.

Look Alive Nibiru Is Coming.... Take care, Josh.

Why would people panic over the sun though? Is Nibiru seen near the sun during the day? Or do you mean they would panic at the sight of the sun itself if it could be seen without the chemtrails?

Thanks.