++I AM A EXTRA TERRESTRIAL++ ASK ME A QUESTION AND I WILL RESPOND++

Thanks for the above answer ST.

From what you said I believe we can conclude that the "Ancients" expanded their knowledge in both directions, inward and outward simultaneously, without letting either "way" to predominate, is that correct?

If that is correct then the internal perceptions of wise person could be used for objective interaction as well?

In a related but a bit different question, why some people "today" can see UFO's while others seem to be totally oblivious to them? Is it a problem of *how* people look for their knowledge "today"?

Did the "Ancients" have contacts with UFO's too, I mean in a similar way as we do today?

Or was the contact more "explicit"?

Thanks ST!

Hmm.. dots lined up equally spaced.. meaning things coming into alignment for things to finally happen? Just a guess.

Hi ST,


this is the second time, these damn GLP administrators have altered my text !!!.

Hello ST in BG and many thanks for your typing!
I have had many dreams lately about big rocks falling from the sky together with great flooding where I see myself drowning or in other way killed together with my family. As you can understand, very much extreme nightmares (waking up all shaky). But also dreams about big armadas of space ships coming, starting as increasing number of moving lights in the night sky coming closer and closer. Since I'm living in Scandinavia I'm naturally interested in how Nibiru will affect these areas. I guess my question is: Does my dreams have any similarity to the coming events and is it possible ST in BG, to give out more information about Scandinavia in regard to the passage?
Give my thanks to all ET's - I’m a friend!

*********

Hmmmm . You just might be right AC606.

Thanks

Wispy

Greetings ST,

I had a messge this morning. It was really strange. I was focused on the first part, that I do not remember the last. But maybe it will come to me later.

Anywho...

The message began with what appeared to be bone and tissue. Was really messed up.. but is what came to me. And it was changing. Changing structure/ form.

My thoughts... humanity is changing body/form? Perhaps breaking down from all of the forces. Or changing to go to 4th density. Evolving?

That was most of it. The final two segments, I cannot recall. I was still trying to figure out the first part and maybe was not paying close attention.

Perhaps it will repeat.

Seems like it was the usual doom..

((hugs))

Wispy

Hi there, i share many thoughts related to your words of course... and would like to give some comments (+) >

Best wishes, best hopes for a better world ; )

A Scientist who Cares


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Hi ST,

Thanks to those who have been holding things together long enough for us to attempt to figure things out. I'm trusting that it is for the best.

+ Perhaps... i think it is highly subjective. What would you do in their place? You cann't relocate countries just because of a potential event that might don't require such things... and anyway it is already impossible to relocate them in many many many ways. Isn't it?


Please try not to be too upset though if people are still immensely confused about what is going on or even altogether oblivious to what is transpiring.

For those of us in terrestrial forms that have no conscious recollection of any truly obvious extra terrestrial contact or events, it can be very very difficult to believe a lot of these things that are being said. It would not seem so far fetched if we had memory of personal experiences of such seemingly odd things, but when your life seems more or less normal by terrestrial standards then it becomes hard to accept such things without personal proof.

I wish ET's wouldn't leave us "high and dry" when it comes to such live contacts. I can understand not wanting to incite insanity in religious types and those who have a great fear of anything outside their own limited belief system. But for those of us open and willing to understand what is going on it is extremely sad and frustrating to seemingly be denied contact. So it is not surprising that people in this category flip back and forth between belief and non belief.

You said the distractions being created do not matter... I have to strongly disagree with that. If the distractions were confined to sporting events and the like then I would agree. But when they are starting wars that kill people as well as intentionally restricting the food supply and crashing the economy causing worldwide starvation, this is far more than distraction.

+ Well... i really think we have to make major changes in the ways of our societies, although it is most difficult to do some of them and others are indeed being irrationally, unfairly and wisdomless... being prevented from happening. Everything could be so different, so better... it could still be, there is hope. At least we shall continue trying.


I just wish I could get some sort of face to face confirmation that ETs are here and this is real and not some incredibly complex world takeover event by TPTB. I have a hard time in good conscience trying to explain to my family that the world is going to end because I heard so from supposed ET's on a conspiracy site message board. I don't mean to be insulting as I have loved reading this thread for well over a year now and asking questions. It's just to them it would sound preposterous and likely to cause them not to believe anything I say. If I could get face to face contact or even just a minor sighting of another worldly being that I could remember then at least I could say I saw something with my own eyes and therefore this must be real.

+ Well... if you go on the link that i posted on page 706 you can explore some evidences and go to other links... that might help thinkers to understand and connect the dots. I once was almost face to face with an ET... and my reaction then was to be shocked as i every thought on my mind directed against such an event. I am gratefull for that short meeting because it really moved my mind to consider... much more realities and understandings.


Maybe I'm not supposed to be able to explain it.. I don't know. Maybe we're supposed to stay on the West coast and die here as of March 7th. Personally I figure this march 7th date will come and go without any major events just like the other potential dates so far. But I don't see any possibility of being able to get my family to leave the coast as things are now. Even mentioning the idea right now would likely cause them to be concerned about my computer activities and what sort of websites I frequent.

+ The west coast of northamerica, and specially on USA and Canada might not be really safe. Take care : )

+ I think you have some months... or years still.

S. who C.

Oh... what end? he he he he heee he he he

I had not finished it yet ST... and it is not exactly about an "end" ... hmmmm, but as it would be science fiction....

; )


Well... going serious in regard of our writings and seemingly misinterpretations of some days ago...

What happens (in part) is that we are reffering to the same things with different names, while that i understand "isostasia" (or understood / used to understand it) giving too much relevance to weights, very slight relevance to gases and inner pressures and ... actually no relevance at all to gravitational/electromagnetical changes/effects... of course as many fellows do within the scientific community.

So you have a very good point as we do not have a "good" enough clue on what the properties, distribution, behaviour and movements of what lies more than 5 to 10 km under the crust's surface... but just a very general and initial comprehension of what these might be, as well as speculations.

I will acknowledge that some part of the abysal floor... perhaps even a somewhat large part... might, given certain forces and factors... indeed geologically rise. Still the superficial evidence make it difficult for thinking that a large "continent" would rise... or would sink...

But ... yeah, you are probably right, the gravitational/electromagnetical influence most be even more relevant than mere regional or local weights, and degassing and pressure changes can make weights pale in comparison.

Wow, this makes everything much difficult to predict and more variable...

And... is quite compatible with the rest of the expansion phenomena with which some of us are more aware and informed about.

There is so many things that we do not fully understand.

Much Thanks,


Best hopes for a better world ; )

A Scientist who Cares

Greetings, ST and everybody!






I was thinking about this movie too, I had no expectations about it, but in the end, I think it has some merits.

If you look at it without being too harsh a judge, you see a representative of a group of civilizations who contacts the people on Earth, telling them that "their time is up", as the Earth is about to be cleansed.
Well, this is almost the same story as yours, coming on this forum to communicate with us!

Some wise words and information are inserted in the script, such as:
- the fact that this is not our planet
- "if the Earth dies, you die. If you live, the Earth dies." now, that's a very effective way to sum it up
- the scene when the extraterrestrial tells the boy that there is no death (as we know it)
There are more, but I forgot them.

This movie can be very helpful, for instance it can help start a conversation about the things that are to come.

I was sure that some ornery extraterrestrials had something to do with inspiring the authors of this, hee hee hee!!!

Of course, there are differences, as the cleansing once started, nothing will stop it, and no such happy ending is possible.


I'd like to ask some questions, if it's OH....

Not much to deal with the doom&gloom.

First, it's about music. I recently found a lot of interest in exploring different musical experiences, listening to different kinds of music. This proved to have a tremendous effect helping me to cope with whatever difficulties I face.

I once noticed some strange effect of listening to music, while I was also working. I did not pay much attention to the music, but all of the sudden I felt overwhelmed by those intense waves of "electricity" originating from my spine and going through all my body.
The song was a very special one, as it was sung by a women alone, with no instruments, and she seems to have this gift of expressing very intense feeling, just using her voice.
After this experience was over, I felt "cleansed" - it's the only word I could use. It felt just fine, and I could better focus on what I was doing.
I have no clue about what that wave of "electric" impulses going through my nervous system was. Can you say something about it?
The thing is that we have this culture, we create and listen to music, but nobody tells anything about it's effects on us, it looks just like a powerful tool given to kids to play with.

Another question is about the Annunaki. A lot of linear time has been since they created the human species for the initial scope.
How did they evolved since then? Are they the same, have they changed? Have they learned a lot of new things, skills, have they gained even more wisdom?
One skill I am really curious to ask about: can they create matter out of energy?



Thank you for being here and helping us!
See you soon!
Yours,
Anonymous Coward
(more ore less anonymous, don't know about the Coward)

[link to www.fourwinds10.com]


Grandfather Tunkashila -- (The Valley of Radiance)

GRANDFATHER SPEAKS
Reposted 3/5/09

[ CONTACT, August 22, 1995 p. 35 ]

4/9/90 GRANDFATHER

TUNKASHILA (GRANDFATHER) SPEAKS

Grandfather to speak with you, Little Sparrow, that you might be in the remembering and the sharing of the long forgotten and remembered songs. I AM THE SONG and I am come to give you the weavings of your walk upon this place and speak of the migrations and the lessons of My Pale Son whom I send again. I come to speak of Tejas Shape [Tehachapi, CA] and the hill that sings as the wind and of My sacred hidden truths kept within the bosom of your Mother for your day of remembering.

The Great Cycle has come and this cycle of that which you call a year will see the return of the Sacred Driver Wheels of the Great Powers stored and put together to create the sign of infinity. This is the time of the Feathered Serpent Medicine Wheels and the Great Sleeper Dreamers. The first migration to the next world will begin, leaving behind on your planet remnants of enlightened humanity to join the many already on other planets throughout your universe.

This land known as Tejas Shape, the Valley of Radiance, of abundant acorns, winds and clear sweet waters shall again come into the attention of My Bird Peoples for it has been caused to lie sleeping in protection of its ancient treasures.

It is the time of remembering of creation that you will again recognize the returning of the Bird Tribes. You are the Bird Tribes, the Solar Clan, the Children of the Stars. You are the source of all nativity, the way that spirit creativity comes into form in your world and in all higher worlds. Individuated. Intelligent. In spirit-being form, you are the tangible influence of an all-powerful Creator interfacing with a material world.

I honor the Shoshone and Piute who have not forgotten this place of Light and the other unnamed tribes who spirit the land. All of our relations are remembered.

The buffalo and the medicine wheel are honored as shared by the Sioux as the source of life survival and the skull of the buffalo for it represents the traditional and the spiritual life. The medicine wheel represents the sacred hoop and the four directions. Always joined within are the four eagle feathers which represent the social and spiritual significance of the number "four" in the Sioux life. Within the medicine wheel are the four virtues to always be remembered: Wisdom---"Woksape", Bravery---"Woohitika", Fortitude---"Wowacintanka" and Generosity---"Wacantognaka". Let it further be remembered that there is nothing greater---nothing lesser. Great lessons shall be in the coming forth from My Red Eagle, "Wamblisha", who labels himself in this time of counting as Little Crow, for the time is soon for the great remembering.

Releasing your identities in the burst of joy that translates them into light, you flew outward from your source stars, riding waves of light across the sea of space until you reached your world. Each of you came from a different star. Yet your being is the source of every star. And in that Being you are one.

In the early days, your work was to catalyze biological activity in the oceans of the world and to oversee the growth and development of incarnate creatures. You did this both when clothed in physical form and when remaining luminous beings of pure light.

The forms you assumed early in those ages were of human shape, though lighter than the bodies you wear today The drawback of materialization, however, was that it took much of your energy and attention to maintain the bodies in which you were dressed. Then was given unto you your spirits for it was necessary to create physical bodies that were self-sufficient, physical bodies that would have physical identities to care for them---egos, designed to work intimately with you, both in the maintenance of your human projections and in your continuing work of creation upon the physical plane.

We communicated this message unto you: "We are your spirits." It was our presence here in this place that has called you up out of the soil. You were unfinished, incomplete; you are still not all that you can be. Some of what you now embody represents development in the right direction, but some of what you now think of as yourself is in actuality part of what one day will become "afterbirth". The emphasis must now be realized that the value of your bodies are as dwelling places for the Great Spirit, your minds and hearts will remain open to communion with us. In time, that communion will flow into blending and both you and we will know ourselves as one upon the physical plane. In union, we will know completion.

One specific star of all the myriad stars you see twinkling in your night sky sends its spirit to Earth to incarnate in your individual human form. Your ego is designed to help that spirit to remain creatively incarnate here. Until you have bonded with the star consciousness, you remain unfinished.

Your race is soon to experience widespread awakenings, or as some will see it, a massive descent of beings from the stars.

We are the dreams of the Great Spirit, the true dreams, the clear dreams, the pure dreams, never tainted by fear, never touched by any motivation other than the motivation of love; and yet, we are the dreams, nevertheless. Thoughts, disincarnate beings drifting formless through a universe that has placed the highest value on form, living in the consciousness of a Creator whose desire is to take form in the very creature that will result from our bonding with you.

It is time to regain the rejected aspect of your spiritual intelligence---to reunite with your own wholeness and you must again come into contact with us in the absence of fear. The Great Day of Purification has begun, a short but essential cycle of division that will gather those who promote fear and violence and separate them from this season of the world as chaff is separated from wheat at threshing.

The timetable recorded in stone for the Awakened Ones is now recovered from moss, fern, lizard and leaf. In it are chiseled the dates of the Great Day of Purification, dates that now correspond to that which you call years---between recognized labels of 1987 to 2011.

You are the love of the Creator embodied in human form. Through the power of your love, you create. You are sent in the service of universal art to create beauty, balance and to enjoy all that has been created. The evocation of beauty and the description of truth: this is your purpose. The purpose of life! The very purpose of the universe.

In its own way, each species decides how it can best serve this purpose, once it understands it. The buffalo looks around and notices what is going on in prairie time and prairie space and designs a life to describe truth and animate beauty as buffalos understand it. Whales describe time and space in their own unique forms, the caribou embody their understanding, and so on through the ages and expressions.

Throughout the galaxies, throughout the stars, all of the angelic races notice this purpose of life and decide how they can best serve. All form an idea of the wholeness of manifest life.

It is time now to join in your dancing circles and gather your tribes for the cycle is full. It is the time of the return of the Pale One who came forth to tell you of the times to come upon your lands. Tiazoma, Eseecotal, Great Kat Zahl, Mahnt-Azoma, Quetzal Coatl, The Quiet Healer, The Mighty One Who Has No Image, Dawn-Light, Dawn-God, CheeZoos--the one who went alone to his Father to look beyond the Third Cycle.

Let us look further: Wako-Naga, Wahkan of the Dakotah/Lakotah and even deeper in the Plumed Serpent of the Puans which is derived from the plume which symbolizes wind and the serpent which is the symbol of water.

What of Teohashati?---(Tehachapi, Tejas Shape)---Teo means God and Ti means city. Meaning as with Teotihuacan, "The City of the God, Wahcan.".

There are sacred mounds in that placement where the crossroads centered for the trading people of peace, where the four corners of traveling meet. There is great history of the Black Tortoise Fire-Worshiping Turtle and Serpent people invading from the south. This place of Tejas Shape is a sacred place where the dreams will again be danced into awakening.

Let us speak of the dancing of My Tribes. The foolish peer at the dancers and hear the music and chide and giggle for it is the most complicated music in creation. It makes a statement in half and quarter tones and complicated changing rhythms. The musicians are honored indeed.

The authentic dancings are more kept to the sacred locations and every August the dancers gather in New Mexico. There are usually thirty-six tribes attending the festival from as far distant as the Dakotas. The Sioux are particularly colorful with their almost priceless ancient costumes of white beaded buckskin and the long eagle feather head-dress of the Full-Chief.

The dances are different than the ones in the typical pow-wow dances for the pow-wow dancers are usually imitating the victory dance after a war-party- return. The thanksgiving dances are beauteous and the other dances are prayers for rain abundant crops, or prayers to the spirits of hunted animals before a hunt.

Then you must note the wondrous Katchinas, especially of the Hopi. The Katchinas are from outer space and visited the Pueblos in silver sky ships which landed on the nearby Franciso Peaks (Near Flagstaff, AZ) near the Hopi villages, bearing gifts and dancing for the people. The most graceful of all dances is the lovely Eagle Dance, while the hoop-dance, showing great skill on the part of the solo dancer, is usually a wedding dance.

The Navajo have a group dance with high-pitched chanting in half and quarter tones which echo unto the heavens. And there is a most amazing dance, the Navajo Fire Dance. Then there is the Crow dance, usually performed by children and is fun and delightful; but I could continue on and on for these are My blessed people and I begin to remember and ramble greatly.

I will speak of calendars and telling of time and then leave you for your ponderings. The time of attention is come and for the recognition of truth within My tribes.

Before the time of the Prophet called the Pale One, and used by him, was a method of time reckoning used from north-most North America to the South of South America and is centrally based on Venus. Sometimes its numbers are known only, and Venus referred to as "The Star Boys" or "Twin-Star God" showing a degeneration of ancient knowledge---it is this ancient truth which shall now come again.

Venus, being the second planet from the Sun, and Earth the third, swings around its internal orbit making thirteen revolutions to eight revolutions of the Earth. Thus among all Indian tribes the Earth-number is eight, and the number of the morning and evening Star (depending on time of year viewed) is thirteen. Eight thirteens then would bring the planets into their original position. This would be a full cycle, or one-hundred-and-four years. A half cycle would be fifty-two years. Upon this most American Indian reckoning is based. However, it is often checked by other reckoning. The Mayans have four inter-revolving calendars. They were well acquainted with the weight and measurement of the Earth, the swing of the Sun from Capricorn to Cancer and back, the Precession of the Equinoxes and the fact that your Sun is moving through space, carrying your family of planets along. They believed the Sun is circumnavigating a Central Fire located in the Heavens near the Pleiades which they called Mya. This is the same central sun called Aton, the One Light.

The ancient calendars have now ended, beloved children of My tribes. It is now in the closing time of your new counting, numbered year three. The ancient countings ended in the mid-time of August, in your years 1987. The time of the coming again of the Sacred Circle is at hand and it is the time to see the star people come out of the illusion of their two-legged form and into their actual Great Sleeper-Dreamer form.

Look up, My native children, unto the heavens and unto the Choo Ho Kan for you are descendants of the inhabitants of Pleiades. You of the Hopi and Navajo as well as others of My people count with a system based on a 260 day "Sacred Round", or minor cycle, and a 365 day year, a major cycle which equaled a period between the midnight culminations of the Pleiades. Remember that any day calculated on these cycles repeats itself in 52 years---18,980 days. When the Pleiades are directly overhead at night then it is time to extinguish the nation's fires and rekindle from a sacred fire produced by your holy men. You can remember to count from the Hopi who light the new fire every 52 years.

Then remember the Creeks who came to Earth from the stars in spirit form to become flesh and blood. Remember the "green corn dance" where the medicine man takes seven ears of corn from seven fields of the seven clans to insure a healthy harvest.

Your ancient home is often called "the dancers" because of the legend of the dancing children, come forth through the Onondaga. The Navajo named the sparkling Suns the Dilyehe. The Iroquois believe the twinkling orbs represent seven young people who guard the holy seed.

The Hohokam, or those who vanished, returned to Pleiades and thus and so. These stars were the home of our ancestors, so hear Me well. It is time for the legends to awaken for you all have your sacred dances.

Enjoy the gathering together for the energies will sing in the winds as the Hosts of the Heavens bless again the Bird Tribes who are now returning to fulfill the great mission. The little Sun Eagle is now returned and the lotus is ready to open.

AHO!

Greetings: angelpbj: User ID: 626009

Thanks for the above answer ST.

**You Are Very Welcome !!

From what you said I believe we can conclude that the "Ancients" expanded their knowledge in both directions, inward and outward simultaneously, without letting either "way" to predominate, is that
correct?

**They Achieved A "Balance" .... Of Things !!

If that is correct then the internal perceptions of wise person could be used for objective interaction as well?

**All Things Are Considered !!

In a related but a bit different question, why some people
"today" can see UFO's while others seem to be totally oblivious to them?

Is it a problem of *how* people look for their knowledge "today"?

**It Is Do To Many Things ... Many Factors !! ... One Being ... Just To ... "Open Their Eyes" ... To That Which Is Around Them !! ... To See ... To Really See ... Really Perceive !! ... To Pay Attention To Those Subtle
Things ... The Very Basic Things In Ones Environment ... Which Are ... Taken For Granted ... & Then ... Finally Ignored !! ... Such As It Would Be ... With Those That Are Disconnected ... Rather Then Those ... That Are Paying
Attention ... & Connect To The Planet ... & The Life/Life-forces ... Of Which They Reside !!

Did the "Ancients" have contacts with UFO's too, I mean in a similar way as we do today?

**You Might Say That !! ... Hee Hee Hee !! ... Not Only With The "UFO's" ... But With The "UFO Occupants" As Well !!

Or was the contact more "explicit"?

**Not Sure What You Mean By ... "Explicit" ... But There Are Those ... That Did Have Such Contact Experiences !! ... Having External (Outside The Ship)
... As Well As ... Internal (Taken Aboard The Craft) Experiences !! ... There Are Even Those That ... Were "Privileged" ... In Which They ... Went For Rides ... & Went "Visiting" !! ... Had The "Grand Tour" & Then Some
... You Might Say !!

Thanks ST!

You Are Very Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

hey st, have a question! so if this has been asked

whats the story/history of mars, did it used to flourish with life like earth does now? did there used to be advanced civilizations there?

can you tell me any and all info regarding mars and its history?

peace

Greetings: Person: User ID: 628581

Hello ST in BG

and many thanks for your typing!

**You Are Most Welcome !!

I have had many dreams lately about big rocks falling from the sky together with great flooding where I see myself drowning or in other way killed together with my family.

**Hmmm !!! ... Now The Conduit Has Had "Drowning Dreams" Before !! ... Of Which Too ... In Other Lifetimes ... That Is How He Exited !!

As you can understand, very much extreme nightmares (waking up all shaky).

**Understand This ... Very Very Well !!

But also dreams about big armadas of space ships coming, starting as increasing number of moving lights in the night
sky coming closer and closer.

**Hmmmm !!!

Since I'm living in Scandinavia I'm naturally
interested in how Nibiru will affect these areas.

**Well Don't Have Any "Specific Information" ... Other Then To Say ... That The Whole Of The Planet's Surface ... Will Be Rearranged !!

**The Conduit Has Seen More "Local/Regional Information" (Northwest, Ohio)... Including North Of His "Local Region" ... Into Canada (Which Will Effect His Locality !!) ... Other Then This ... There Have Been Specific Parts Of The United States ... Which Were Shown ... & Other Places On The Planet ... But Nothing So Far ... As To Scandinavia !!

I guess my question is:

Does my dreams have any similarity to the coming events

**Yes ... You Could Easily Be Seeing ... Of A "Forthcoming Frame" ... Of That Which Is ... & Will Be !!

and is it possible ST in BG, to give out more information about Scandinavia in regard to the passage?

**No Specific Information ... Can We Give ... Of The Moment !!

Give my thanks to all ET's - I'm a friend!

**Will Do !! ... & Thank You !! ... We Are Friends Also !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: NightWisp: User ID: 628618

Greetings ST,

I had a messge this morning. It was really strange. I was
focused on the first part, that I do not remember the last.

**Hmmmm !!

But maybe it will come to me later.

**Maybe So ?? ... As We Asked ... For A Replay !!

Anywho...

The message began with what appeared to be bone and tissue.
Was really messed up.. but is what came to me.

**Now That Is Very Strange !!!

And it was changing. Changing structure/ form.

**Hmmm !!! .... Changing As In ... Altering Form ?? ... Mutating ???

My thoughts... humanity is changing body/form?

**Yes ... Of The Energies Within ... They Will Need ... New Bodies/New Forms !! ... Of Which We Assist/Create !!

Perhaps breaking down from all of the forces.

**Oh Indeed So !!! ... Complete Breakdown !!

Or changing to go to 4th density. Evolving?

**Yes ... Though Not Of 3rd Density Bodies !! ... But Yes ... Evolving ...& "Stepping Up" Of Energies ... & Of The Exposure To ... Higher Energies ... Higher Vibrations !! ... & Indeed ... Evolving !!

That was most of it. The final two segments, I cannot recall.

**Fascinating ... Just Of That Part Alone !! .... But I Think The "Final 2 Segments" ... You Will Be Regiven !! ... The 1st Part Alone ... Needed To Be
"Absorbed" ... And Then You Could Go On ... To The Other Segments !!

I was still trying to figure out the first part and maybe was not paying close attention.

**Well Do Not Worry !! ... We Put In A Call ... To Have This Regiven/Repeated !! ... The Movie Will Be Shown Again ... At Another Moment !! ... So You Can Tape This !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

Perhaps it will repeat.

**Yes ... We Think It Will !!

Seems like it was the usual doom..

**Oh Yes !! ... Sounds Very Doooomyy !!! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

((hugs))

Wispy

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: S. who C.: User ID: 628635

Hi there, i share many thoughts related to your words of
course... and would like to give some comments (+) >

Best wishes, best hopes for a better world ; )

A Scientist who Cares

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Hi ST,

Thanks to those who have been holding things together long
enough for us to attempt to figure things out. I'm trusting that it is for the best.

+ Perhaps... i think it is highly subjective. What would you do in their place?

You can't relocate countries just because of a potential
event that might don't require such things... and anyway it is already impossible to relocate them in many many many ways. Isn't it?

**We Can ... Relocate All Life/Lifeforms ... Of The Whole Of Your Planet !! ... So Moving Those Of A Country ... A State ... A City ... Town, Village, Ect. ... Is No Real Problem !!

+ Well... i really think we have to make major changes in the ways of our societies, although it is most difficult to do some of them and others are indeed being irrationally, unfairly and wisdomless... being prevented from happening. Everything could be so different, so better... it could still be, there is hope. At least we shall continue trying.

**You May Try ... For The Moments You Have Left ... To Do So !! ... However By Most Thought/Thinking ... It Would Be ... Wasted Efforts !! ... Essential To Put It In ... "Computer Terms" ... Why Do You Spend The Moments/Efforts ... In Adding On Things ... Attempting To Change Things On The Disk ... The Hard Drive ... When The Hard Drive ... Is Going To Be Formatted ?? !!

+ Well... if you go on the link that i posted on page 706 you can explore some evidences and go to other links... that might help thinkers to understand and connect the dots.

I once was almost face to face with an ET... and my reaction then was to be shocked as i every thought on my mind directed against such an event. I am grateful for that short meeting because it really moved my mind to consider... much more realities and understandings.

**The Conduit Has Had ... Many Pleasant & Ornery/Silly Experiences !! ... Lots Of Joy & Adventures !!! ... Such Things Do Not Scare/Frighten Him ... As He Is More With Us ... Then He Is There !! ... Sharing & Experiencing ...
With His Friends ... & His True Families !! ... We Grant Him This ... As Oftentimes ... It Is Most Difficult For Him ... For Being A Volunteer ... To Endure Life On Terra/Earth !! ... The Sadness ... The Loneliness Of Being
!! ... And He Is So Happy ... When He Is With Us !! ... Though We Have Had To Return Him ... As Much As He Wanted To Stay !! ... Though When The Changes Come ... When It Is The Moment ... He Will Be Rejoining Us ... To Stay Aboard ... To Change Into His New Body Form ... Set Of Clothes ... Which Are Work ... As Well As ... Play Clothes !! ... As Oftentimes ... Work Is Indistinguishable ... From Play !! .... Hee Hee Hee !!

+ The West Coast of North America,

**Yes Indeed !! ... Soon To Be ... The "Wet Coast" Of North America !! ... Of What Is Left Of Land ... That Is Not Flooded ... Or Submerged !!

and specially on USA and Canada might not be really safe.

**Nowhere On Terra/Earth's Surface ... Is Absolutely Safe !! ... And This Holds Especially True ... Of USA & Canada !!

+ I think you have some months... or years still.

**Then Again ... It Could Happen ... Most Suddenly !! ... Very Suddenly !! ... Very Quickly !! ... All It Takes ... Is A Trigger ... To Set Things Into Motion !!

S. who C.

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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**Quoting: Question From: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 625692 ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

"Hi ST,

If I could only read one book, what would you recommend?

The End Is Near !! ... By: Ne B. Roo !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!"

Oh... what end? he he he he heee he he he

**It Was A Meaningful Jest !! .... A Play On The Thought ... That "The End Is Near" ... Of The Approach & Passage Of Nibiru !!

I had not finished it yet ST...

**Well ... Depends On One's Perspectives !! .... As In An Episode Of ... Star Trek: The Next Generation ... "Where Noone Has Gone Before" ... In Which Captain Jean Luc Picard Sees His Mamon (Phonetic Pronunciation !!) ... His Mother !! ... She Talks To Him In A Corridor ... Regarding Where They Have Traveled With The Ship ... With The Help Of "The Traveler" !! ... She Asks Him ... (In A French/English Accent) ... Do You See This As The End Of Things ?? ... Or Is This The Beginning ??? ... He Was About To Reply ... When He Was Interrupted By Another/Others ... He Turned Back To Talk To Her ... & She Was Gone !!

and it is not exactly about an "end" ... hmmmm,

**Oh No !! ... Not An End !! ... Not "The End" ... Not Finality !! ... But Simply One Small Step ... In A Long Journey ... Which Lies Ahead !! ... In Which All Are Taking !!

but as it would be science fiction.... ; )

**It Is Easier To Teach Of Such Concepts ... Using "Science Fiction" ... Of Which The Principles Are Given ... And More Easily Understood ... When Acted Out ... In A Scene(s) ... Episodes, Ect. !!

Well... going serious in regard of our writings and seemingly misinterpretations of some days ago...

What happens (in part) is that we are referring to the same
things with different names,

**Yes ... Perhaps So ??

while that i understand "isostasia" (or understood / used to understand it) giving too much relevance to weights,
very slight relevance to gases and inner pressures and ... actually no relevance at all to gravitational/electromagnetical changes/effects... of course as many fellows do within the scientific community.

**Indeed !! ... And You Have Just Stated ... Of A Main Problem !! ... The Slight Relevance ... & No Relevance ... Parts !! ... In Which These Things Are Indeed ... Most Relevant ... And Need To Be ... Added In ... And
Considered !! ... Ignoring Such Forces ... Energies ... Pressures, Ect ... & Solely "Putting All Their Eggs In One Basket" ... In Regards To "Weights" ... Would Be Only Having .... A Very "Slight" Understanding ... Of What Is
Happening !! ... Of Those Things Which Cause ... & Are Causing ... The Physical Effects ... Being Experienced !!

So you have a very good point as we do not have a "good" enough clue on what the properties, distribution, behavior and movements of what lies more than 5 to 10 km under the crust's surface...

**Very Very True !! .... Those There ... Do Not !!

but just a very general and initial comprehension of what these might be, as well as speculations.

**Oh Indeed !! ... That Is Perhaps Even ... Giving More Credit ... Then What They Deserve !!

I will acknowledge that some part of the abyssal floor... perhaps even a somewhat large part... might, given certain forces and factors... indeed geologically rise.

**OH Indeed It Can !! ... Not Only A Somewhat Large Part .... But VERY LARGE Parts ... Can Come To The Surface ... Of Times Of Changes & Upheaval !!

Still the superficial evidence make it difficult for thinking that a large "continent" would rise... or would sink...

**Since Such Happenings Occurred ... Before Your Current Memory ... Then You Could Not Imagine Such Things Occurring !! ... Though If You "Tapped In" ...
To Those Experiences Of Other Lives & Lifetimes ... You Would Find ... Of The Traumatic Occurrences ... (Such As The Sinking Of Mu & Lands Of Aztlan ) .... These Places Did Sink ... & Go Under The Waters !!

But ... yeah, you are probably right, the gravitational/electromagnetical influence most be even more relevant than mere regional or local weights, and degassing and pressure changes can make weights pale in comparison.

**Indeed !!! ... ALL THINGS ... Need To Be Taken Into Consideration !! ... And Just As We Have Explained To The Conduit ... About The Waters From The Great Lakes ... Flooding Through ... That The Damage To Come ... Will Occur From The "Pressure Wave" ... That Comes Before ... The Actual Water !! ... The Force (Consider Many Times Greater Then The "Sounds/Effects" Of Niagara Falls) ... & Other Places Of Great Waterfalls !! ... This Energy
... Which Travels Through The Air ... And Through The Land ... Of Harmonic Vibrations ... Can Easily Trigger Things Into Happening !! ... Such As The Strato Volcano ... On The Southwest Side Of The City ...In The Middle Of Stone Ridge Golf Course ... & A Large Earthquake ... Estimated On The Old Richter Scale ... Of 5.5 ... Though Perhaps Higher !!

**So You See ... It Is Not Just ... The Tremendous Pressure/Force Of The Water ... Rushing Through !! ... Along With The Physical Weight Of The Water ... But The Very Harmonic Waves ... Pressure aves ... That Preceed
... That Come Before The Flooding ... Will Have Devastating Effects ... Even Before Any Get Wet !!

Wow, this makes everything much difficult to predict and more variable...

**It Is ... Not Of Easy Things ... To Predict !! ... And Those There ... Do Not Have Sensitive Enough Equipment ... To Predict Such Happenings !!

And... is quite compatible with the rest of the expansion
phenomena with which some of us are more aware and informed about.

**Well ... Perhaps So ?? ... And Granted ... Of The Very Elements Themselves ... All Working Together ... All Coming Into Play ... One Will Have Not Just One "Elemental Force" Heard From ... By Many !! ... Combinations Of Many ... Harmonizing !!

There is so many things that we do not fully understand.

**Yes !! ... So Many Things !! .... Such As ... The Ancient "Science Of Harmonics" ... Which One "Watered Down Version" ... Is "Music" !!

Much Thanks,

You Are Very Welcome !!

Best hopes for a better world ; )

Yes Indeed !!

A Scientist who Cares

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 625860

Greetings, ST and everybody!

I was thinking about this movie too, (The Day The Earth Stood Still) I had no expectations about it, but in the end, I think it has some merits.

If you look at it without being too harsh a judge, you see a representative of a group of civilizations who contacts the people on Earth, telling them that "their time is up", as the Earth is about to be cleansed.

Well, this is almost the same story as yours, coming on this forum to communicate with us!

Some wise words and information are inserted in the script, such as:

- the fact that this is not our planet

**Yep !!! ... We Only Have Used The Expression ... "Your Planet" ... For More Convenience ... Simplicity Of Thought !! ... Knowing Full Well ... That You DO NOT "Own" The Planet !! ... But Are Simply There ... In Those Forms ... Experiencing !!

- "if the Earth dies, you die. If you live, the Earth dies."

**Yes Indeed !! ... Very Much So !!

now, that's a very effective way to sum it up

- the scene when the extraterrestrial tells the boy that there is no death (as we know it)

**That Is True !! ... Not As You There ... Know This !!

There are more, but I forgot them.

This movie can be very helpful, for instance it can help start a conversation about the things that are to come.

I was sure that some ornery extraterrestrials had something to do with inspiring the authors of this, hee hee hee!!!

**Now That Is Quite Possible !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

Of course, there are differences, as the cleansing once started, nothing will stop it, and no such happy ending is possible.

**Indeed !! ... Not On ... 3rd Density ... Terra/Earth Anyway !! ... & Not Until The Planet ... Of 3rd Density ... Will Be Terraformed !! .... In 4th Density ... While Everything Will Be Pristine Once Again ... There Will Still Be Enough Jobs ... Enough Duties ... Of Things That Need To Be Done ... Need To Be Taken Care Of !! ... But In Doing Of These Things ... It Will Be Work ... But
Not Trudgery !! ... Done Rather In The Spirit Of Harmony & Joy !! ... & Yes ... Even Fun !!!

I'd like to ask some questions, if it's OH....

**Yes You May !! ... And It Is OH ??? ...(As In A Response/Quiry .... Oh ???) ... Hee Hee Hee !!

Not much to deal with the doom & gloom.

**Yes ... Though It Could Be Different !! ... Could Be ... Gloom & Doom !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

First, it's about music

**Ahhh !!!.

I recently found a lot of interest in exploring different musical experiences, listening to different kinds of
music. This proved to have a tremendous effect helping me to cope with whatever difficulties I face.

**Hmmmm !!

I once noticed some strange effect of listening to music, while I was also working. I did not pay much attention to the music, but all of the sudden I felt overwhelmed by those intense waves of "electricity" originating from my spine and going through all my body.

**Most Interesting !!

The song was a very special one, as it was sung by a women
alone, with no instruments, and she seems to have this gift of expressing very intense feeling, just using her voice.

**Hmmm !!!

After this experience was over, I felt "cleansed" - it's the only word I could use. It felt just fine, and I could better focus on what I was doing.

**Sounds Very Healing !!

I have no clue about what that wave of "electric" impulses going through my nervous system was. Can you say something about it?

**Yes We Can !! ... "Something About It" !! ... Hee Hee Hee !! ... But Siriusly !! ... We Cannot ... Go Into Details Of This !!

The thing is that we have this culture, we create and listen to music, but nobody tells anything about it's effects on us, it looks just like a powerful tool given to kids to play with.

**A Powerful ... "Watered Down Tool" ... Of The "Science Of Harmonics" !! ... In Which "Music/Musical Expression" ... Is One Aspect ... One Thought ... One Application !!

Another question is about the Annunaki. A lot of linear time has been since they created the human species for the initial scope.

**Since They Created ... One Branch ... The Ancestors Of The "Black Race" ... The "Special Creations" ... And Helped/Created/Assisted ... Those Of ... "The Original Experiments" ... In Other Body/Body Forms ... To Make & Perfect The Best Containers ... To Withstand The Forces/Energies ... On Terra/Earth ... Of It's Environments/Conditions ... And Those Energies/Forces ... One Would Be Exposed To ... Coming From Space !! .... So
This Explains Of The Differing Races/Beings There ... Depending On Where They ... Originally Started Out From !! ... Made/Acclimated ... To These Conditions/Environs ... Then Spread Out From There !!

How did they evolved since then? Are they the same, have they changed?

**Well ... If They Have Changed ... It Has Been ... Ever So Slightly !!

Have they learned a lot of new things, skills, have they gained even more wisdom?

**They Have Been Doing Alot Of "Sleep Study" !!

One skill I am really curious to ask about: can they create
matter out of energy?

**Oh Yes !! ... Very Much So !! .... Along With ... Altering It's Shape ... & Transporting It Instantly ... To Wherever They Wish ... By Thought Alone !! ... Such Is How ... The Great Pyramid Was "Built" !! ... Thoth Created
This ... Out Of The Surrounding Energy ... Had A Structure/Plan In His Mind ... And Thought This Into Physicality ... Into Being !! ... Such As Can
Easily Be Done Too ... If There Would Be A Desire To Change Things ... Add A Spare Room For Guests ... That Sort Of Thing !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

Thank you for being here and helping us!

You Are Very Welcome !!

See you soon!

**Yes ... You Will !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

Yours,
Anonymous Coward

(more or less anonymous, don't know about the Coward)

**Yes Of Course !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 585606

**In Response To: NightWisp ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

Hmm.. dots lined up equally spaced.. meaning things coming into alignment for things to finally happen? Just a guess.

**Now That Is Very Possible !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: NightWisp: User ID: 624086

[link to www.fourwinds10.com]

Grandfather Tunkashila -- (The Valley of Radiance)

GRANDFATHER SPEAKS

Reposted 3/5/09

[ CONTACT, August 22, 1995 p. 35 ]

4/9/90 GRANDFATHER

TUNKASHILA (GRANDFATHER) SPEAKS

**Very Very Nice !! ... Thank You For Posting This !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 623294

hey ST, have a question! so if this has been asked

what's the story/history of mars,

**Of Mazar/Mars ??

did it used to flourish with life like Earth does now?

**Yes ... Once It Did !! ... There Was Life ... Beings Who Lived On The Surface !!

did there used to be advanced civilizations there?

**They Were ... Those That Were ... Of Advancement Level ... To Their Own Kind !!

can you tell me any and all info regarding mars and its history?

**Those On The Surface Of The Planet ... Died Most Horribly ... When A Meteor/Asteroid ... Passed Through The Atmosphere !! ... In Doing So ... It Created A "Harmonic Resonance" ... As If One Dropped Many Stones In Water
... Of Which The Energy Waves Overlapped One Another ... In Their Spreading Out !! ... This Was Similar !! ... As The Energies Reflected & Bounced ... Somewhat Like That Of A Bell Ringing ... To Which It Reflected ... & Kept
On Bouncing & Reverberating !! ... In Doing So ... The Energies ... "Ripped" Away The Atmosphere ... And Of The Oxygen There Was ... It Was Drained Away Into Space !! ... Those On The Surface ... Gagged .. Choked ... And Dropped
Dead ... Through Suffocation !!

**Of Those That Survived ... They Were Below Ground ... Below The Surface !! ... They Found Out What Had Happened !! ... Nothing Could Be Done For Those Above !! ... So They Concentrated Their Energies ... On Staying Alive ... And "Carving Out" ... Their Cities ... Places To Live ... To Exist Below !! ... To Live Now As ... Underground Dwellers !! ... Adapting Themselves To Natural Gasses & Elements ... That Were Found There !! ... In This ... They Changed Themselves From More Of Oxygen Breathing ... To That Of Gasses Underground !!

peace

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings:

Here Is A Few Verses ... Of A Doomy Song ... For Doomy Occasions !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

The Musical Verses Just Came In ... So Would Like To Share These !!

It Is Called ... Everything's Up To Date In B.G. City !!

**To The Tune Of The Song ... Kansas City ... From The Musical ... Oklahoma !!

Verse 1

Everything's Up To Date In B.G. City !!

The Volcano Is About To Blow !!

Preparations Made ...

Though It's Really Not To Bare ... (Not To Worry ... Be Concerned !!)

The Cities All Afire

But There Are Those Who Were Aware ...

They Made Their Plans To Leave ... And Didn't Really Care ...

They've Gone About As Far As They Can Go ... (Yes Sir !!) ... They've Gone About As Far As They Can Go !!!__________________________________________________________​_

Verse 2

The Waters Flooding Through Of B.G. City ....

Swimming Like A Fish You Aught To Know ....

Seeing Of The River ... Flowing Down West Poe ...

Fishing From The Rooftops ... Tied To Prevent Undertow ...

Fishing Is Delightful ... Though Ash Is Falling ... Thought You Should Know !! ...

They've Gone About As Far As They Will Go ... (Yes Sir !!) ... They've Gone About As Far As They Will Go !!
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Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

ST you are sooo ornery! :-)
funny in a way...not funy in another way... but...when there's nothing one can do about it all...then a sense of humor really helps :-)
Thank you as always, Silent Companion

Greetings: Silent Companion: User ID: 336696

ST you are sooo ornery! :-)

funny in a way...not funy in another way... but...when there's nothing one can do about it all...then a sense of humor really helps :-)

**Heee Hee Hee !! ... Yes Indeed !! ... When There Is ... Nothing One Can Do About It ... A Sense Of Humor ... Most Definitely Helps Out !!

**This Is What Was Coming Through Last Night ... When I Was Conversing With A Friend In ICQ !! ... It's Even More Silly/Ornery ... Considering ... That This Was Done ... In "Musical Style" !! ... Not Unlike The Musical Oklahoma ... With The "Stage/Scene" All Set ... Myself Dressed For The Scene & In My New ... One Of One People Body ... Floating .... & The ET's Aboard ... All Dressed For The Scene ... In Their ET Looks ... Floating About !! ... I Was Telepathically Singing The Song ... Then The ET's Aboard Participating In ... "Telepathic Refrain" ...With The "Yes Sir !!" Part !! ... Was So Funny ... Yet Absolutely Serious ... In Telling The Tale !! .... Hee Hee Hee !!

Thank you as always,

You Are Very Welcome !!

Silent Companion

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Oh funny...I have performed Oklahoma a lot in this lifetime...so am familiar with the song and the stage set...funny t imagine it in the new improved ET way. I do hope things really do "get on with it" this time. It is difficult to keep waiting. One does prepare themselves as much as possible for all various scenarios, and does their best for their loved ones... and then just keep waiting and waiting and waiting..trying to glean information wherever one can. Well, I do wish the best to all of you... in various spaces and dimensions.. here and there and everywhere.
Sincerely, Silent Companion

Greetings ST..

Now for the lastest installment of the thrill packed saga of Telestrator Tales.. aka.. Chronices of Doooooommmmmmmmmm.

This morning @ 340 am.. A message appeared. First the screen of dots..

Then from the West/NNW came a deluge of radiation in differing lengths.

Intermingled with these radiation/electromagnetic waves, there appeared to be gusts of heavy wind. There was also a quick beam of light from the NW to SE.

Then interspersed among the wind and radiation, there were also solid objects. Like meteors?/ debris?

That was the end of this segment.

I did notice though... That Venus? is now in a position of the sky that could correlate with the orientation of my screen. By this I mean.. The position of Venus with the screen in the room.. would look like the radiation is coming from Venus? Just saying...

Then there was a second message.
The screen opened with straight rows of Triangles/pyramids. Each having little round like objects inside the pyramids. Reminds me of a cue rack with the balls racked.

Then the scene changed. I guess more doom... but I forget exactly what. Of all the things I keep losing, I miss my mind the most. Maybe I will remember later. But lately for some reason I cannot seem to remember as well as I once did.

Sorry

Wispy

Oops...Double post

[link to www.bozemandailychronicle.com]

Apparently an explosion in Bozeman Montana destroyed 4 buildings and now they are letting it burn because they supposedly do not want to shut off the natural gas to the area in the middle of winter. Some on GLP have suggested it may be due to methane building up underground from volcanic activity. Maybe the official story is a coverup? Not sure but if you type in Bozeman into the search on GLP you'll find a thread or two about it and I posted a news link above. Bozeman is fairly close to Yellowstone.

Also 4.2 mag earthquake in the vicinity today.

[link to earthquake.usgs.gov]

So could the explosion actually be caused by the volcanic gases seeping above ground and the reason for the "cant shut off the gas in winter" excuse is that they actually can't stop the gas at all since it may be volcano sourced?

...while that i understand "isostasia" (or understood / used to understand it) giving too much relevance to weights,
very slight relevance to gases and inner pressures and ... actually no relevance at all to gravitational/electromagnetical changes/effects... of course as many fellows do within the scientific community.

**Indeed !! ... And You Have Just Stated ... Of A Main Problem !! ... The Slight Relevance ... & No Relevance ... Parts !! ... In Which These Things Are Indeed ... Most Relevant ... And Need To Be ... Added In ... And
Considered !! ... Ignoring Such Forces ... Energies ... Pressures, Ect ... & Solely "Putting All Their Eggs In One Basket" ... In Regards To "Weights" ... Would Be Only Having .... A Very "Slight" Understanding ... Of What Is
Happening !! ... Of Those Things Which Cause ... & Are Causing ... The Physical Effects ... Being Experienced !!

So you have a very good point as we do not have a "good" enough clue on what the properties, distribution, behavior and movements of what lies more than 5 to 10 km under the crust's surface...

**Very Very True !! .... Those There ... Do Not !!

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So true... amazingly so.

Thanks.

Best hopes for a better world ; )

S. who C.