++I AM A EXTRA TERRESTRIAL++ ASK ME A QUESTION AND I WILL RESPOND++

ST in BG,

By any chance, would you have anything to say about a FDNY firefighter named Timothy Haskell, killed in the WTC collapses on 911? My impression is that he is still deeply traumatized by that event.

"Don't recall many travels to other Stars yet.

**How About Planets ... Ships ... ???"

Yes, my home/quarters once. Very vague memories of healing/re-arrangements. Not sure about planets, well, day dreams.. And I have flew across this solar system to view nibiru (from VERY interesting perspectives)

So yes! perhaps maybe we all are ST's of our own originality.

Greetings: User ID: 765451

Hmmmm.... this thread is still running after all these years and there is still a following.

**There Are Those Who Read & Post To The Thread !!

People are still waiting for all the doom that ST predicted and eluded to for the last 4 years.

**Such Will Arrive ... Soon Enough ... And Then ... Even For "Naysayers" Such As Yourself ... You Will Have Your Proof !! ... As To Predictions ... Of Those Things ... "Eluded To" ... As You Would State ... We Have
Explained ... Many Many Times !! ... & To Waste Our Energies ... Explaining Such Things ... To Close Minded Ones ... Would Be ... Rather Fruitless !!

After all the missed dates that were predicted from ST I am surprised that many of you are still willing to be duped.

**Such Things Are ... Estimations Of Possibilities ... Potentials !! ... Which At Any Time/Moment ... Could Have & Would Have ... Been By & Of Themselves ... The Trigger To Set Things Into Motion ... Into Play !! ... So Obviously ... You Don't Know Of ... The Intricacies Of Things ... Of That Which Is Going On ... Behind The Scenes !! ... Of Those Of The Governments & Other "Knowing Individuals" On Terra/Earth ... Who Have Been Preparing
For The Arrival !! ... Though Of Their Equipment/Technologies ... They Are Far More Inadequate Of Making A "Correct Guess(es)" ... Then We Are !!!

Guess what? This is a conspiracy forum and ST has been
having his fun with you.

**No !! ... Sorry ... Most Non-Knowledgeable ... & Disinfomative One !!

Nibiru did not arrive in 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008.

**It Arrived ... To Where It Was To Be !!

It is not stuck, nor can it just appear when needed.

**Well ... Little Do You Know !! ... & It Shows !!!

The cern prediction was also a major fail.

**If "We" Hadn't "Intervened" ... When We Did ... You Would Have Had ... A "Major Success" !! ... Probably Destroying Terra/Earth ... Perhaps Your Entire Solar System !!

Accept the truth that ST is a disinformation agent that is no better than Nancy.

**Point The Fingers Toward Yourself ... Oh Disinforming One !! ... As To Being ... No Better Then "Nancy" ... Try Again !! ... We Are ... Real ETs ... Not ... Of A Government Program !! ... Guess Again !!

Stop being duped by this schizoid!

**Ahh ... The Debunking ... And You Try So Hard Too !!! ... Fail !!!

He has never proven himself or his predictions and you all should demand proof or move on.

Once you see that he can't provide proof then you may finally learn.

**Most Obviously You Are Aware ... There Are Those Things ... That Of "Terrestrial Proof" ... Can Not Be Made To Appear ... Or Allowed To Appear !! ... So ... Just Another Attempt ... At Debunking !!

I know that everyone here wants to believe in something so bad and you want to belong to something so bad that you are letting yourself be tricked

**No ... Sorry !!! ... Guess Again !!

and ST is feeding off of this energy.

**Hardly !!! ... OH Boy !!! ... Sheesh !!!!

Set yourself free and find out what it is that you need
to do in life and quit wasting your time, efforts and energy in ST's fiction, disinformation and false predictions.

**Why Don't You ... Set Yourself Free ... & Don't Post Your Debunking False Nonsense & Crap !! ... As To Our Material/Transmissions ... Why Don't Your Read What Has Been Posted !! ... (Betting You Haven't !!) ... & Learn
Some Things !! ... Seems Like You Really DO Need An Education !!! ... Now Go Back Under Your Debunking/Troll Bridge ... And If You Are Nice ... Really Really Nice ... We Might Bake You Up ... Some Yummy Troll House Cookies !!!
... Hee Hee Hee !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Can't tell you how glad I am to see the extended version of the telestrator tales back! Feels like we are progressing again. I think the radiation lines being red might be to show that it is an effect of Nibiru, red being a way to represent effects caused by Nibiru's influences, if that makes sense.

Also neat that they showed the formula for sulfuric acid. Nice to see things we can understand. I hope they keep coming and thanks again Wispy and ST/ET's.

Of course...humans are not the only sentient beings with "souls" on the planet!

Ahh! Nightwisp! Hello

"
There were bubbles again rising from the ground. and I saw the formula H2SO4 (sulfuric acid).

**Oh Boy !!!! ... Sulfuric Acid ... As In Volcanic Acid !!!"

When you add H2SO4 To the equation.. the rest of the product.. ends up a little spicy! Im sure there will be more flavors to blend the spices so we will get the perfect recipe... for Dooooom... Haha!

How are you doing Nightwisp? Getting excited for Pumpkins? I would rather a tasty pumpkin pie than a jack-o-lantern anyways... I certainly have changed my opinions throughout the past year Big Time.

ST in BG,

The post raises an interesting point.

I have entered several questions in the past month or so and read some of the previous 900+ pages of posts (although not nearly all). Your answers have been courteous and often thought-provoking, and although a bit of a skeptic at heart, I decided to approach the possibility that you are an extra-terrestrial with an open mind. Any decent skeptic starts first with an open mind.

With that said, I write the following with the utmost respect. If you are as you claim to be, I would hope that the following questions would be viewed as eminently reasonable and would not cause offense. If, as the several debunkers have proposed, you are a hoaxer, than your discomfort is of little concern to me.

To start with, my personal experience reading this thread contradicts the above post, as I have seen no obvious flaws in the limited posts that I have read that would "debunk" you as an extra-terrestrial. On the other hand, there is no incontrovertible evidence that you are an extra-terrestrial - certainly, it would not be impossible for a clever and human science-fiction writer to create a similar character and narrative if they were so inclined. I can't fathom a motive for doing so, but history has shown the existence of some very motivated hoaxers, so it is certainly not out of the question.

My question then is this: for someone like me, who is willing to believe that which can be supported with evidence, is there any introconvertible evidence you are an extra-terrestrial or must I take a leap of faith in accepting your answers as genuine?
Is there any for you to "prove" that you are an ET?
If not and I must take a leap of faith in believing you, then isn't this just another form of religious conversation?
You have stated there is no "one" supreme being (God, in our context), but if as much of a leap of faith is required to accept your word as any other religious teaching, how can I, with my naturally limited view of the universe, choose between your "religious teachings" and any other?
Finally, I have seen you write several times on the "propaganda" of Reptilians. I have not read enough of the propaganda to understand the details, but in a most basic way, how can I differentiate their propaganda from your statements? What evidence do I have as a mere reader to favor the truth of your ideas over those or any other?

I hope these queries are seen in the constructive and truly curious light in which they were written, and if I have somehow unintentionally caused offense to a being of extra-terrestrial origin, you have my deep and sincere apologies.

Thank you again for the thread and your continued patience.

Hey Wispy! You say your telestrator tales appear on a screen?

Do you have a device to view these visions or do they appear in your minds eye?



And hey Laddie I figured out who threw that tomato! LOL

I got beyond that a while ago, that someone threw a tomato at us. Good thing they only got it on my shoe. Perfectly good tomato too! You aroused my curiosity however.. Who done it?! Who Done It????!!!

I'll probably just hear who it is when you tell me next time we meet.

Well it seems that I hit a nerve as you feel the need to call me a debunker for calling you a debunker. The one difference though is that I have something to actually debunk, which is your false predictions and endless excuses. You, on the other hand are trying to debunk me by saying that there are things we don't understand. Well make us understand oh great teacher and give your followers something concrete. I had several valid statements about how nibiru has not appeared and you keep coming up with excuses and say that there are so many possibilities and that your "race"intervened with cern.... or how the year 2008 was the real 2012 and that nibiru was going to appear then. Enough of your games!!! I sometimes wonder if you actually believe everything that you are saying, but that you actually are schizophrenic and do not know the difference between reality and fantasy. Perhaps, your DMT production from the pituitary gland is in over production causing you to have such delusions including multiple personalities. Or perhaps the Christians are correct and demons are real and you are a possessed human. I don't know what your true motivation is and if you ever had any credibility, you could come up with one concrete prediction.
I expect you to attack me like you did in your last post, but I am going to challenge you Mr. ST in BG, to step up to the plate and prove yourself. Call me doubting thomas, I need to put my hand in your wounds as I cannot believe you on faith alone. Nor should anyone else here. I hope you take this as a sincere challenge as you seem to be intelligent and you need to learn empathy.... put yourself in our shoes and see how you would feel with all the excuses of why things have not happened and see if you would start loosing faith. For the record, I followed this post from page 1 to over page 800. I am now just fed up.

Josh

Hi, ST in BG

I again appreciate your answers.

I think you once said that before we incarnate our bodies, we are able to see how our life on Earth is gonna be and then approve the operation of embodiment. But, if in that life you foresee that you are an assassin (therefore, causing suffering to others) or -just the opposite- you are the victim in pain, who would choose to live such a disgraceful life?? Actually, I have already read about this predestination theory in New Age books.

Some posts ago, one guy said he was collecting your answers in one book, but you disagreed because you didn't want to get any attention from the masses, or something like that. My question is, if you are not interested in reaching the public why do you use internet, a global and massive tool of communication?

Are the Tell Asmar group of 12 figurines a representation of the Council of Twelve? Is this the look of Anu?

[link to jeristudebaker.com]

Or is him more like this?
[link to files.myopera.com]

Thank you again!

my chest almost dropped when they use my Name....

errrrrrrrr.. it might be another Josh but ey, people know by now i sign my name Josh. Use another name please, a nickname.

sasha/Josh.

YOU KNOW BOY!!!! I SIGN MY NAME JOSH AT THE END OF MY POSTS, IF YOU BEEN FOLLOWING FROM THE BEGINNING, YOU HAVENT SIGNED JOSH TO A USER NAME, I'VE READ MOST ALL PAGES I BELIEVE AND HAVENT ONCE SEEN SOMEONE USE THIS AS THEIR NAME EXCEPT ME, SO IF YOUR PRETENDING TO BE ME, STOP IT NOW!!!!

Don't worry Josh (the real one), we can see the difference. The other one is just a troll.

Cheers

Thank you, Josh.

Yes, Josh - the Regular Readers Know that you are not the Troll!


Truth2

Yes (to the real Josh...)
We knew that was not your post. You would never address ST like that.

Such knowledge is not the exclusive domain of extraterrestrials.

ST in BG,

What caused the mysterious rogue waves that occurred at Boothbay Harbor, Maine on Oct 28, 2008? Noone seems to have a clue.

[link to www.boston.com]

Greetings: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 701310

**In Response To NightWisp & ST In BG .... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

Can't tell you how glad I am to see the extended version of the telestrator tales back!

**Yes Indeed !!

Feels like we are progressing again.

**Oh Yes !!

I think the radiation lines being red might be to show that it is an effect of Nibiru, red being a way to represent effects caused by Nibiru's influences, if that makes sense.

**Yes ... That Does Make Sense !!

Also neat that they showed the formula for sulfuric acid.

**Indeed So !!

Nice to see things we can understand.

**Yes Indeed !!

I hope they keep coming

**We Hope So Too !!

and thanks again Wispy and ST/ET's.

**From Ourselves ... Those Here ... You Are Very Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

HI st,
Todays news that another earthquake has hit Indonasia is very sad. They have had the "created" 2006 Tsunami and again tradegy hits their land. If such an occuarance takes place, are there ships ready to help these people or are et ships only for special people?I often wonder about people in third world countries. Are you ready to help them or only Americans?
2 British people died and nearly 500 Indonesians, but the British press, including yahoo concentrated on the 2 deaths. Such a bias would surely be wrong in a decent society?
I spent a long time yesterday contempleting about humans and our energies. You use the word "animated" energies.I understand that the human container is only a puppet and the energy is what controls the vessel? Can I the energy have total control without the human interfering?
The human container is often not helping the energy to go higher or wake up. Is this part of the design?Is that why the Earth is often refered to as a prison?
Earth is a prison with prison gaurds? Are these prison guards the PTB, the 13 bloodlines that claim that they rule Earth.Please read this from Godlike Productions
[link to www.scribd.com]
You said that the decision about who is going to 4D is already made. What if I am not chosen? What can I do to help my energy wake up ? Do I have still have time to help myself?
How do you know who is going to 4D. Deas a light shine on them? If so how? If not, then can you explain what you can see?
Last night the chemtrails were being sprayed everywhere ,near the moon and all over. Today the day has been filled with further chemtrails.
I know a lot of people are wishing for Niburu because they want to finish the awful PTB that are creating such negativity. I really want all my projects to be finished,i.e a school and creating an organic kitchen garden etc,really mundane things but I like being creative and would like to see these running and florishing...possibly too late now?
Lastly, I presume that Tony Blair is a replicant? The replicants never disappear? Is he going to be chosen as the president of the EEC? Kissinger has always been there ever since I was a child? He surely is not real?
Thank you in advance for answering my rambling questions.

Hi ST in BG, Conduit, Team, Paschats, Whispy, Truth 2 Josh & Sasha 2 :-) I hope all of you are well.
I've been working hard on my "patience"...also my garden...harvesting time now :-) For the first time in 9 years...we had a warm sunny summer..year.. and we've had good harvests of many things..but my 2 favorites are raspberries and pumpkins..yea..
This is just a FYI post...I don't know if you "keep track of us" or not...anyhow...want to inform you...that we (good husband,sweet canine companion and I) will be going camping... we will not be in our usual location for 2 weeks...from Sat. Oct.4 - Sunday 19... we will be camping... first going in the direction Berlin...staying there for a conference Wed.8- Sunday? then driving a bit south...is the plan...slowly...Dresden/Leipzig...perhaps other areas on Czheck. border first...then back to Western part of Europe...
dunno if anything happens in that time...or if we get beamed up... or not... or whatever... jus' kinda "checkin in/ and informin'" Will not be able to check emails or Internet during that time...other than the week in Berlin- we will be in nature and hopefully enjoying pretty fall colors, trees and rivers...Hopefully the weather will be good...hard to say....
in any case, we wish all a "wel fahren" (good future and safe trips) in the case anything BIG happens in this time. I personally don't think it will, but I have been wrong before...
I sincerely want to thank you ST for all your info. and patience, and all that you have taught us-or at least tried to :-) Thank you Truth 2 and thank you Whispy for all that you have been going through to inform us...Thank you also Josh...I do believe, come Oct. 18-19...I'll be back online from home...and not much will have occurred in the meantime...Do believe it's coming though :-)
Lovies, to you all, Sincerely, Silent Comanion

Greetings: Taran: User ID: 781805

Of course...humans are not the only sentient beings with "souls" on the planet!

**None Of Them Have "Souls" !! ... This Is A "Religious Term" ... Which Is Incorrect !! ... Those On The Planet However ... Are Animated ... With Energies ... Of An "Energy Essence" ... That Comprises The Multi-Faceted
"Energy Matrix" ... Containing The Sum Of Many Lifes/Lifetimes Of Experiences ... The Connections ... To Many Selves ... In Many Bodies ... All Existing ... In The Now ... Of The Moment !!
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Quoting: Anonymous Coward 767228

"You have stated there is no "one" supreme being (God, in our context), but if as much of a leap of faith is required to accept your word as any other religious teaching, how can I, with my naturally limited view of the universe, choose between your "religious teachings" and any other?"

Such knowledge is not the exclusive domain of extraterrestrials.

**Since All Beings ... Of The Energies Within ... From Perception ... Would Be Considered ... As "Extraterrestrial" ... As Having Lives/Lifetimes
In Bodies ... That Are Not Of/From ... Terra/Earth ... Then We Would Not See Your Point Being Made !! ... As It Is ... Such Knowledge/Understanding ... Is Free To All ... Given That ... They Wish To Explore This !! ... That They Are At The Particular Learning/Teaching Level ... & Of Which
Permission Of This Knowledge ... Would Be Granted/Allowed !!
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ST In BG,

What caused the mysterious rogue waves that occurred at Boothbay Harbor, Maine on Oct 28, 2008?

Noone seems to have a clue.

[link to www.boston.com]

**We Cannot ... Report On This ... Of The Moment !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 767228

ST In BG,

The post raises an interesting point.

I have entered several questions in the past month or so and
read some of the previous 900+ pages of posts (although not nearly all).

Your answers have been courteous and often thought provoking,

**Well ... We Try To Be !!!

and although a bit of a skeptic at heart, I decided to approach the possibility that you are an extra-terrestrial with an open mind.

**We Are ... "Extraterrestrials" (Not "Extra Terrestrial" !!) ... Extraterrestrial(s) ... Is Not Of/From Terra/Earth ... That Which Would Include ... Those Native Terrans ... & Those Interdimensional Beings ... Who May ... Come & Go !! ... Extra - Terrestrial(s) ... Is Stating ... More Terrestrials ... As If Making A Movie ... And Having ... More Extras ... More People !!

**As To Having An "Open Mind" ... No ... We Tend To Keep The Doors Closed !! ... Otherwise The Mind Gets Chilly !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

Any decent skeptic starts first with an open mind.

**Hmmm !!!

With that said, I write the following with the utmost respect. If you are as you claim to be,

**We Are As We Are !!

I would hope that the following questions would be viewed as eminently reasonable and would not cause offense.

**Well ... Let's Hope !!

If, as the several debunkers have proposed, you are a hoaxer, than your discomfort is of little concern to me.

**Since We Are Not A "Hoaxer" ... There Is Little To Be Concerned About !! ... Other Then Perhaps ... Learning !!

To start with, my personal experience reading this thread
contradicts the above post, as I have seen no obvious flaws in the limited posts that I have read that would "debunk" you as an extra-terrestrial.

**Such Of The One That Posted ... Just To Come On The Thread ... To Attack ... To Debunk ... Having Their "Hiss Session" ... To "Take It Out On Us" ... Because Things Are Not Going ... Are Not Moving Along Fast Enough ... For Their Liking !! ... Unlike Others Who Make Themselves Into ... "Sounding Boards" For Such "Emotional Disparages" ... We Will (When We So Choose !!) ... Tell Them ... Where To Get Off ... And Yes ... We Just Might Not ... Slow Down The Vehicle ... When We Do !! ... On The Other Hand ... We Could Simply Ignore Those ... Who Come On The Thread ... Who Attempt To Interrupt Things ... By Their Immature Thoughts & Actions !! ... Of The Responses ...
They May Be Multi-Varied ... Depending On Who Is ... "Answering The Phone" !!

On the other hand, there is no incontrovertible evidence that you are an extra-terrestrial -

**Whew !! ... Thankfully For That !! ... Since We Are ... Extraterrestrials !! ... Don't Want To Be ... "Just Another Terrestrial" ... Filling In ... Saying ... Peas & Carrots ... Peas & Carrots ... In The Background !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

certainly, it would not be impossible for a clever and
human science-fiction writer to create a similar character and narrative if they were so inclined.

**Perhaps So ?? ... However ... We Are Not !! ... Neither Ourselves Or The Conduit ... Would Be Able To Do So !! ... Since None Of Us Is ... As You Would Say ... "Human" !! ... While Our Energies Do Exist In A
"Terrestrial/Human Container/Body" ... This Does Not Make Us ... Of That Body/Shell !! ... As We Are ... As You Say There ... More Then The Sum Of Our Physical Parts !!

I can't fathom a motive for doing so,

**We Cannot Either !!

but history has shown the existence of some very motivated hoaxers, so it is certainly not out of the question.

**Agreed !! ... However ... This Is Not The Case Here !!

My question then is this: for someone like me, who is willing to believe that which can be supported with evidence, is there any introconvertible evidence you are an extra-terrestrial

**Since We Are Not ... An "Extra-Terrestrial" ... We Cannot Give You Such Evidences !! ... And As To Being "Extraterrestrial" ... Such Things Are Not Allowed/Permitted !!

or must I take a leap of faith in accepting your answers as genuine?

**A "Leap Of Faith" ?? ... It Is Not A Belief System ... Rather It Is Simple Yes/No !! ... Of Ourselves & Our Conduit ... Authentic ?? ... The Answer Is ... Yes !!!

Is there any for you to "prove" that you are an ET?

**Not That Is Allowed In 3rd Density !! ... In 4th Density ... You May Come Aboard Ship ... & We May Give You ... A Tour !!

If not and I must take a leap of faith in believing you,

**You Must Decide ... Of Yes Or No !! ... It Is No ... "Leap Of Faith" ... As It Is Not "Belief" ... Nor Is It ... "Religious Distortion" !!

then isn't this just another form of religious conversation?

**It Has Nothing To Do With ... "Religion" !! ... In Fact ... You Will Read ... How We Were Against Creating This ... As A Temporary "Stop Gap Measure" ... Of Your Long Long Long Ago ... To Prevent Our Creations ... From
Destroying/Murdering One Another !! ... Of That Lifetime/Body ... The Energies Of The Conduit Told ... Of What Would Happen ... "Down The Road" ... By Creating A ... "Worship Of The Creator Beings" ... Which Later
Became "Gods" & Finally "God" !! ... You Have Your Evidences ... Of What Has Happened ... By The Enactment (Shortsightedness) Of That Decision ... Of Which We Were Of Very Few Opposed !! ... It Was Better From A Viewpoint ... To Let Happen ... What Was Happening ... & Begin Again ... Correcting The Flaw That Surfaced ... Then To Let This Go Further ... & Contaminate Generation Upon Generations To Come ... In Endless Battles ... Of "Gods" (In Their "Beliefs") ... That Supported Their "Holy
Causes/Viewpoints" !!

You have stated there is no "one" supreme being (God, in our
context),

**There Never Was !! ... As Such Is Simply Stating Of (Of Their "Watered Down Understandings/Misunderstandings Of "God" !!) ... The One That ... Presides Over The Council ... (In This Case Anu/Lord Anu) ... The Council Of
Worlds/Association Of Worlds !! ... The Head Of Council ... That Also Is Over The Anunnaki ... ET Beings Of A Conglomeration ... A Collection Of Many ET Species/Peoples/Individuals ... Specialists In Their Own Fields ... Who Came From The Planet/Planetary Vessel "Nibiru" ... (Those Native To That Planet/Planetary Vessel Would Be Called: Nefilim !!) ... To Terra/Earth
... In The Ancient Times Of That Planet !!

but if as much of a leap of faith is required to accept your word as any other religious teaching, how can I, with my naturally limited view of the universe, choose between your "religious teachings" and any other?

**Of The Origins Of "Religion" ... It Is Of "True Religious Teachings" ... How This All Came About !!! ... However ... Of The Transmissions ... They Are Not (Except In The Telling & Correction Of These "Religious Beliefs" !!) ... Not Of ... Nor Connected In Any Way ... To "Religion Or Religious Teachings" !!

Finally, I have seen you write several times on the "propaganda" of Reptilians.

**Yes !! ... As They Like Ourselves ... Have Been All Labeled & Cataloged/Categorized ... As One & One Thing Only !! ... A Main Heading Of "Reptilians" ... Would Comprise ... Many Many Many Many ... Beings/Species
... Who Have Particular Physiologies ... Looks, Natures, Ect. ... And Of These ... Many Many Many Many Beings & Species ... There Are Certain Families ... And Then ... This Branches Out ... Further & Further !! ... Starting
From Those Who Are More ... "Pure Bred" On Down ... With Various Mixes & Mixtures ... Of Which Each Is Unique & Most Individualistic !! ... So One Might Say ... Of An Example ... To Condemn All Of One Kind/Type/Variety,
Ect. Of Extraterrestrials/Extraterrestrial Beings ... It Would Be Similar To ... Condemning ALL "Humans" ... For The Thinking/Actions Of A Single Individual(s) !!

I have not read enough of the propaganda to understand the details,

**You Would Have To Be ... So Exposed ... In Contact/Having Contact With Such Beings ... To Understand !! ... Then You Would Look Upon Such Things ... As ... The Lies & Distortions That Are Spread ... By Those Who ... Are
On The Outside Looking In ... As Rubbish/Garbage ... & Fear Latent Crap ... By Those Who Do Not Know Of These Beings !!

but in a most basic way, how can I differentiate their propaganda from your statements?

**You Would Have To Understand These Beings ... From Their Point Of View !! ... Not From Yours !! ... To Actually Be & Live Amongst Them !! ... To Have Physical Contact ... As We Do Constantly !! ... And THEN ... You Would Understand ... You Would Come To Appreciate Their Beings/Beingness ... For Who(m) They Are !!

What evidence do I have as a mere reader to favor the
truth of your ideas over those or any other?

**It Is A Difference Of For Us ... Between Knowing & Experiencing .... & ... Not Knowing ... & Not Experiencing !! ... Those That Promote Such "Fear
Latent Scenarios" ... To Be Afraid Of Extraterrestrials ... Are On The Outside Looking In !! ... That Is To Say ... That Even Of Certain Ones ... That Have Had ... Limited Exposures ... & Have Come Back With "Fear Stories" ... How Much "Fear" Is Generated ... By Simply Non Understanding
... Not Being Aware ... Of What Is Happening ... Of Not Knowing ... & Not Being Inside The ET's ... & Comprehending ... From The Way They See & Understand Things !! ... It Is Indeed A Case Of ... Walking A Mile In Their Moccasins ... & Seeing Things ... From Their Point Of View ... (Which Can Be Done !!)

I hope these queries are seen in the constructive and truly
curious light in which they were written,

**Yes ... & We Thank You ... For Presenting These Queries/Curiosities ... In The Polite Way That You Have !!!

and if I have somehow unintentionally caused offense to a being of extra-terrestrial origin,

**Well Of ... Extraterrestrial Origins !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

you have my deep and sincere apologies.

**Yes Indeed ... & Thank You !!

Thank you again for the thread and your continued patience.

You Are Very Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

The Coming Of The Reptilian's
Quote

The Lizards will not appear to be forcing themselves on you. They are
masters of deception. They will seem to come to help you. We have
mentioned this in an earlier channeling. They prefer to win you over.
If they use force, at least initially, too many people will
immediately see through their facade. They are seeking the same kind
of mind control over each individual as they have over those in
(situation of power), and even their subordinate ET's (the Gray's). It
is up to each person to allow this to happen. Just going along with
things is as much m.nd control as direct control. There is really no
difference.

"...At the same time there will be certain "natural disasters" that
create certain needs. These disasters will be caused by the powerful
negative forces. Also there will be an ET alert. The focus will be on
the "non loving" ones.
As allegiance to the ET "saviors" is gained, your leaders will
become less and less involved, as the negatives begin to exert total
control. At the same time they will continue to make you believe they
are your friends and still working with your leaders.

"... If each of you will be able to set aside your own personal fears
and other emotions, you can easily realize that whatever is happening
through your leaders or the Lizard leaders, is not in your best
interest, unless you are also from the dark side.

After all the "dust settles", you will be advised as to the real
reasons for the negative ET appearance. You will be told of certain
pending and inevitable doomsday occurrences that will more than likely
destroy your planet Earth and everything on it. The picture you will
be painted will be one that leaves you no recourse. But their sales
job will not be complete yet. You will be told how advanced they are
and how you can be part of that process on distant planets. They will
take some volunteers to view these beautiful planets and their golden
cities. Whoever is witness to these places will be overcome by the
beauty and peacefulness. Many others will also have views of these
unbelievable cities and countryside. This is all yours, you will be
told, along with the advanced technology to support them. You will
then be asked and expected to agree to leave at the appropriate time.
All while they are communicating these things to you, you
will be subjected to the most advanced form of mind control you could
imagine. Once you have agreed to their offers, you will then be
processed to prepare you for passage. The actual passage will be some
time off for most, as you will need to prepare yourself mentally,
physically and "spiritually". In fact what you will be doing is
allowing the negatives to assert their control over you. For there are
no golden cities to be transported to. What many will have witnessed
are the masterful use of holograms to create illusions of truth for
those seeking them. Each who agrees to the negative ET's offers will
find themselves taken through a process somewhat like meditation. Only
you will be opening yourself up to the direct control techniques of
those from the dark side. There will be some to recognize what is
happening and they will resist. These will be isolated if caught so as
to not alarm the others. Your leaders will be using intimidation to
assure that each is a participant.

Once you have completely submitted to their control, whether on the
Earth before you leave, or somewhere in space, there is no turning
back for you. Most will not even recognize the need to turn back, at least
initially. For some it will not take long to recognize your
predicament. Some will be subjected to physical experiments, ranging
from organ transplanting to impregnation and child birthing. Many will
actually transition from the experiments as they are traumatized so
extensively. As gruesome as it may sound, many will become a form of
human sacrifice. Many, many more will be forced into labor camps, both
on the Earth and on distant planets. All who choose to be with the
Reptilian's will be pressed into some type of service, or directly
USED. You will no longer be a unique being, but will
become a toy and slave of those you so trusted. There will be
absolutely no escape for you in this lifetime, especially once you
have been taken to the "golden cities". Only when you make your
transition, will you be free.
(NOTE from CMDR : I consider this as a real channeling from Ashtar =96
there are basically no such today any more =96 and a good vintage of the
past in the range of the ratio that I accept : 85% from the real being
speaking and only 15% from the own mind of the channel. These figures
are not only reversed today, but in the rare cases there would be a
channeling, the ratio would be in the best cases less than 15 % from a
real being and over 85% from the mind of the supposed channel, which
makes any text not worthy of any publishing. I can say this because I
am in close contact the real Fleet of the real Ashtar. Now on that
quote about being free from bondage from Reptilians after transition
of the body/soul, an important distinction should be now made : this
would apply only to star people, that is beings who have come FROM the
5th dimension, and return there directly in case of death. To learn
about the star people, please visit my website, and check if you are a
star people by reading the following page :
See page Galactic Readings in my website :
[link to www.starshiplight.com]
Regarding humans on Earth who have not yet (unlike the star people)
made their ascension in a previous life, the Reptilians with the
technology of their servants Greys, have the abilities to follow the
soul signature of their slaves even after they die, and will find them
in the next incarnation, to claim them again. This is done with
implants on the lightbody, implants that cannot be removed for such
beings in the 3rd and 4th dimensional bands. This is why it is
important at this time to know if you are a star people or not. Please
on this subject read my articles on Protection and Implants in the
archives of my lists of News (membership is free) :
[link to groups.yahoo.com]
I am available to respond any question you may have at
cptnlyur@...=20=20
In the case of the famous planned physical implant under the skin
which is fully ready now and of Greys technology, not only it will
imprint on the mind/body, but also on the spirit/soul level)
BACK TO MESSAGE :
"Many of the leaders, particularly those of the dark focus, will
be elevated within the ranks of the negative ET's. Others will become
slaves themselves when they are no longer needed. There is no "code of
honor" among the Reptilian's. They only recognize power and the
ability to create fear in others.

I have left out many more details. One very important truth to
remember is that each has a choice, or choices, now and then. What you
choose will contribute to your reality. WE are a choice for you. We
come in love and offer love. We do not expect anything from you. We
will help only if asked we are asked to. This [asked not forced] alone
will be difficult for many to comprehend, as you have been taught so
well to force your views and beliefs on others, especially when you
know it is for their own good. To those who follow these truths, true
discernment will be most difficult.

I will continue at another time to tell you more about your options
for us. There are Light workers among you who will provide you with
guidance, if you wish to listen to them. I will tell you other things
concerning the negative ET's, but mostly I will tell you of our love.
I leave in love for each of you and for the God Source of us all.
Ashtar, Of The Ashtar Command


[link to inamidst.com]

Greetings: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 765451

Well it seems that I hit a nerve as you feel the need to call me a debunker for calling you a debunker.

**Well No ... Attempt At "Circular Logic" Aside ... You Did Not Call Us This !! ... Though We Did To You ... As Obviously ... That Is What You ... Were/Are ... Attempting To Do !! ... Purposefully Coming On The Thread ... And Attacking !! ... With No Desire Whatsoever ... To Politely Quiry Of Ourselves !!

The one difference though is that I have something to actually debunk, which is your false predictions and
endless excuses.

**You Simply Want To Have ... An Emotional ... "Hissy Fit" !! ... To Take It Out On Us ... Use Us As Your "Personal Sounding Board" ... Because Of What We Have Stated ... Is Not Happening ... Happening Soon Enough ... For Your Liking !! ... Sorry ... Life Just Does Not Work/Function ... In That Capacity !! ... It's Timetables ... Are It's Own !!

You, on the other hand are trying to debunk me by saying
that there are things we don't understand.

**No ... We Are Saying Quite Factually ... There Are Things ... Many Many Many +++ Things ... That You & Others ... Do Not Understand !! ... Though We Do !!!

Well make us understand oh great teacher and give your followers something concrete.

**Coming Across With Such "Attitude" ... Would Give You Nothing !! ... We Give To Those ... When We Can ... When We Are Allowed ... Of Those That Show ... Proper Respect !! ... You Have Not Indicated This !!

I had several valid statements about how Nibiru has not appeared and you keep coming up with excuses and say that there are so many possibilities

**We Have Given To The Extent We Can Give ... To Explain ... That There Are Valid Reasons ... & Yes ... Many Possibilities !!

and that your "race"intervened with C.E.R.N.

**Yes We Did !!

or how the year 2008 was the real 2012 and that Nibiru was going to appear then.

**This Was A Fair & Correct Assessment !! ... As To Nibiru's Appearance ... Of That Moment ... The Statement Was Quite Valid !!! ... Though Again ... This Is Of That Planet/Planetary Vessel ... & Those There ... Of Their
Decision/Choice !!

Enough of your games!!!

**Well If You Don't Like The Information Presented ... Of The Transmissions We Give ... On This Thread ... Then Leave !! ... Noone Asked You Here ... To Give Of Your ... Invalid/Not Knowing Impressions ... Of How Things Are !! ... You Know Where The Door Is !! ... Use It !!

I sometimes wonder if you actually believe everything that you are saying, but that you actually are schizophrenic and do not know the difference between reality
and fantasy.

**No ... Sorry !!! ... Failed Attempt !!

Perhaps, your DMT production from the pituitary gland is in
over production causing you to have such delusions including multiple personalities.

**No... Sorry !! ... Failed Attempt !!

Or perhaps the Christians are correct and demons are real and you are a possessed human.

**No ... Sorry !! ... Failed Attempt !!!

I don't know what your true motivation is

**You Don't Know Period !! ... Why Don't You Leave ... & Come Back ... When You Have ... More Knowledge ... & More Respect !! ... Obviously You Are Lacking In Both ... & More !!

and if you ever had any credibility, you could come up with one concrete prediction.

**This Is Not What The Transmissions ... Are All About !! ... And We Truly Would Not Give Such ... To Those That Attempt To Dishonor !!

I expect you to attack me like you did in your last post,

**Attack Debunkers/Trolls ... That Come On The Thread ... To Interfere ... To Cause Trouble !! ... Whatever For ??

but I am going to challenge you Mr. ST in BG, to step up to the plate and prove yourself.

**We Are Not Interested In "Proving Ourselves" ... To Ones Such As You !!

Call me doubting Thomas,

**OK !! ... "Doubting Thomas" !!

I need to put my hand in your wounds as I cannot believe you on faith alone.

**Well ... Who Asked You To ???

Nor should anyone else here.

**Oh ?? ... You Want To Be ... Their "Conscience & Guide" ?? ... Oh Boy !! ... & Oh Brother !!!

I hope you take this as a sincere challenge as you seem to be intelligent and you need to learn empathy....

**We Consider Such ... Pathetic !!! ... & A Waste Of Moments !! ... But It Seems ... We Need To ... Spend A Few ... To Send You ... Back On Your Way !! ... (Out The Door That Is !!!) ... We Have No "Sentimental Feelings" ... No Pity ... For Trolls ... For Debunkers ... For Disrupters !!

put yourself in our shoes and see how you would feel
with all the excuses of why things have not happened and see if you would start loosing faith.

**The Conduit ... Of Our Energies ... To Borrow The Saying ... Is "In Your Shoes" !! ... He Knows & Understands ... All Too Well !! ... And Experiences
The Physical Pain & Suffering ... (Of Being A Volunteer There) ... Of The Changes That Are Manifesting ... That Are ... Coming About !!

For the record, I followed this post from page 1 to over page 800.

**We Did Not Start On ... Page #1 ... Rather We Started On Page #4 !! ... You May Have "Followed" ... But Did You Actually Read/Comprehend ... Did You Learn ?? ... Does Not Seem That You Did !!

I am now just fed up.

**Well ... Sorry For That !! ... You Just Have To Wait ... Like Ourselves ... Like The Conduit ... & All The Others There !! ... You Are Not ... Anymore Or Any Less Special ... In That Capacity !! ... In Effect ... "In
The Same Boat" ... As Are We All !!

Josh

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: Gattonero: User ID: 783757

Hi, ST In BG

I again appreciate your answers.

I think you once said that before we incarnate our bodies,

**Animate The Bodies !! ... We Attempt To "Put Space" Between ... The Thoughts Of "Incarnation" ... As It Is Misused/Misapplied ... In The "Idea" (Which Is Incorrect !!) ... Of ... Reincarnation !! ... "Incarnation" As We Would Use The Term ... Would Be ... "Different" ... Then How It Is Used
There ... & Does Tend To Get Things ... All Confused !!

we are able to see how our life on Earth is gonna be and then approve the operation of embodiment.

**You Are Given A Preview ... Not Just Of ... An Embodiment On Terra/Earth ... But On Other Worlds ... Of Other Places As Well !! ... Of The Lessons Chosen (Or Directed) To Be Learned ... It Is Of Choices Given ... Of What Is Available ... So One Picks/Chooses ... Which They Prefer !! ... (Unless Such Is Chosen For Them !!... Saying In Effect ... You WILL Go There !!)

But, if in that life you foresee that you are an
assassin (therefore, causing suffering to others) or -just the opposite- you are the victim in pain, who would choose to live such a disgraceful life??

**That Would Be ... A Terrestrial Assessment !! ... Of The "Overview" ... It Is Just That ... More Of A "Beginning Overview" ... Not Of Things Which By Choice Or Non Choice ... What Will Become !! ... For To Reveal Of
Too Much Detail ... Of Happenings ... Would Interfere With ... The Lessons To Be Learned !!

Actually, I have already read about this predestination theory in New Age books.

**There Is More To Such Things ... Then Found In ... "New Age (Actually Old Age) Books" !!

Some posts ago, one guy said he was collecting your answers in one book, but you disagreed because you didn't want to get any attention from the masses, or something like that.

**It Is Not Of Our Desire !! ... Besides ... The Conduit Has Difficulties ... With All That Is Happening/Occurring ... In Keeping Up Here !! ... And
Aboard ... We Would Have To .... "Open Up Another Office" !!! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

My question is, if you are not interested in reaching the public why do you use internet, a global and massive tool of communication?

**Well ... At The Moment ... It Seemed ... The Logical Course Of Action !! ... As You Would Say .... "The Right Thing To Do" !!

Are the Tell Asmar group of 12 figurines a representation of the Council of Twelve? Is this the look of Anu?

[link to jeristudebaker.com]

Or is him more like this?

[link to files.myopera.com]

**To Our Knowledge ... No Known Representations ... Correction !! ... No Known CORRECT Representations Exist ... On The Internet !!

Thank you again!

You Are Very Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: sasha: User ID: 771216

**In Response To: josh 765451 ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

my chest almost dropped when they use my Name....

**Yes ... We Saw That ... & Thought ... An Attempt To Gain Attention To Themselves ... By Confusing Others ... As To Identity !!

errrrrrrrr.. it might be another Josh

**Yes ... It Is Possible !! ... But More Likely ... As We Have Stated !!

but ey, people know by now i sign my name Josh.

**Yes ... And That Is Why We Perceived ... Of The Attempted Deception !!

Use another name please, a nickname.

**Better Yet ... They Can Depart !! ... For They Did Not Come To The Thread ... To Learn !!
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YOU KNOW BOY!!!! I SIGN MY NAME JOSH AT THE END OF MY POSTS, IF YOU BEEN FOLLOWING FROM THE BEGINNING, YOU HAVEN'T SIGNED JOSH TO A USER NAME, I'VE READ MOST ALL PAGES I BELIEVE AND HAVEN'T ONCE SEEN SOMEONE USE
THIS AS THEIR NAME EXCEPT ME, SO IF YOUR PRETENDING TO BE ME, STOP IT NOW!!!!

**A Debunker/Troll Josh !! ... A Pretender !! ... And Attempting To Attract Attention ... To Themselves !!

sasha/Josh.
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Greetings: alf: User ID: 783784

**In Response To sasha/Josh ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

Don't worry Josh (the real one), we can see the difference. The other one is just a troll.

**Yes ... There Is A Difference ... Between The "Real One" ... And This Other ... A Troll !!

Cheers
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Greetings: Truth2: User ID: 512476

**In Response To: sasha/Josh ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!


Yes, Josh - the Regular Readers Know that you are not the Troll!

**Yes ... We Know ... Who Is Who !!!

Truth2
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Greetings Anonymous Coward: User ID: 782464

**In Response To: sasha/Josh ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

Yes (to the real Josh...)

We knew that was not your post.

**Indeed !! ... We Knew This From The Onset !! ... From The Beginning !!

You would never address ST like that.

**Agreed !! ... The Other Is Just ... One Trying To Call Attention To Themselves ... A Debunker ... A Troll !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 782464

HI ST,

Today's news that another earthquake has hit Indonesia is very sad.

**Yes It Is !!

They have had the "created" 2006 Tsunami and again tragedy hits their land.

**Again ... Tragedy Come To Their Land !!

If such an occurrence takes place, are there ships ready to help these people or are ET ships only for special people?

**There Are Vessels ... Standing By !!

I often wonder about people in third world countries. Are you ready to help them or only Americans?

**We Are Ready To Help/Assist ... All That We Can !!

2 British people died and nearly 500 Indonesians, but the
British press, including yahoo concentrated on the 2 deaths. Such a bias would surely be wrong in a decent society?

**It Is ... Very Unfortunate ... Not All Peoples Are Treated Equally !!

I spent a long time yesterday contemplating about humans and our energies. You use the word "animated" energies.

**The Energies ... Animate The Bodies !!

I understand that the human container is only a puppet and the energy is what controls the vessel?

**This Would Be Incorrect !! ... It Is A Joining ... A Symbiotic Relationship !!

Can I the energy have total control without the human interfering?

**Such Works Together !!

The human container is often not helping the energy to go higher or wake up. Is this part of the design?

**It Functions ... As It Is Supposed To !!

Is that why the Earth is often referred to as a prison?

**No !!

Earth is a prison with prison guards?

**It Is ... Not A Prison ... But It Is ... Of A Lower Level ... Of Learning/Teachings/Experiences !!

Are these prison guards the PTB, the 13 bloodlines that claim that they rule Earth. Please read this from Godlike Productions

[link to www.scribd.com]

**There Are Those ... & Those Like Them ... That Are Found There !! ... Also Learning ... Also Experiencing !!

You said that the decision about who is going to 4D is already
made.

**Pretty Much So !!

What if I am not chosen?

**Don't Know !!

What can I do to help my energy wake up ?

**You Can Grab Your Body & Shake It ... Yelling ... Wakey Wakey !!! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

Do I have still have time to help myself?

**Don't Know !!

How do you know who is going to 4D. Does a light shine on them? If so how?

**We Know !!

If not, then can you explain what you can see?

**It Is Of That ... Which Is ... For Our Knowledge !!

Last night the chemtrails were being sprayed everywhere ,near the moon and all over. Today the day has been filled with further chemtrails.

**Hmmmm !!!

I know a lot of people are wishing for Nibiru because they want to finish the awful PTB that are creating such negativity.

**Not Negativity ... But Rather ... Of Those Things ... Which Should Not Be There !!

I really want all my projects to be finished, i.e a school and creating an organic kitchen garden etc,really mundane things but I like being creative and would like to see these running and florishing...possibly too late now?

**Do Not Know !!

Lastly, I presume that Tony Blair is a replicant?

**This Is Possible !!

The replicants never disappear?

**They Will ... Malfunction & Cease To Operate !!

Is he going to be chosen as the president of the EEC?

**Don't Know !!

Kissinger has always been there ever since I was a child? He surely is not real?

**Well ... There Have Been ... Many Of Him !!

Thank you in advance for answering my rambling questions.

You Are Very Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG