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***I plan to guard the integrity of this thread and will moderate accordingly. I will delete all posts and or ban posters who try to derail the purpose of this thread.

The purpose is for genuine inquiries to myself and my brethren here on GLP regarding our rejection of the Religious System of Roman Catholicism and all it Protestant Daughters.

If you have heard the call to "Come Out of Her" and want to heed that call, we would love to discuss your questions with you.

If I do not have the answer to your questions, I will invite others to assist you in your search for the truth of the Word of YHWH and the true Testimony of Yahoshua.

Shalom uvRacha,
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Do you believe in a 'rapture' of the church?
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HalleluYAH!
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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The true 7th day sabbath or the false 1st day one?
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Do you believe in a 'rapture' of the church?
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No. It is not a Hebrew concept and the Scriptures were written by Hebrews as directed by YHWH.

Please share your background, denomination, etc. And what prompted you to ask.
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The true 7th day sabbath or the false 1st day one?
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Sabbath is the NAME of the 7th day. Only pagan deities are worshiped on the day of the sun.

Why do you ask?
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the true 7th day Sabbath
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HalleluYAH!
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Welcome, YAH Stone! Please feel free to jump in and answer as well.
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the true 7th day Sabbath
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Hey Girlie! Good to see you!
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No. It is not a Hebrew concept and the Scriptures were written by Hebrews as directed by YHWH.

 Quoting: PalmOfDeborah

I actually remain on the fence with this issue. The Hebrew tradition of a marriage and what takes place before the wedding leads me to lean to a marriage taking place prior to the ruling of the King during the millenium.
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No. It is not a Hebrew concept and the Scriptures were written by Hebrews as directed by YHWH.

Please share your background, denomination, etc. And what prompted you to ask.
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Just wanted to see how much you really understand.

I agree - it is false doctrine.
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Hey Girlie! Good to see you!
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Sabbath is the NAME of the 7th day. Only pagan deities are worshiped on the day of the sun.

Why do you ask?
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Never mind. I should have figured it out in your rejection of Catholicism.
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No. It is not a Hebrew concept and the Scriptures were written by Hebrews as directed by YHWH.


I actually remain on the fence with this issue. The Hebrew tradition of a marriage and what takes place before the wedding leads me to lean to a marriage taking place prior to the ruling of the King during the millenium.
 Quoting: Shamar




Can I help?

Brother,

Rev 20
4And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.


THE FIRST RESURRECTION! If you deny worship to the beast and have your head removed you will be in the first resurrection..

and remember..

Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection....
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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Do you believe in a 'rapture' of the church?


No. It is not a Hebrew concept and the Scriptures were written by Hebrews as directed by YHWH.


I actually remain on the fence with this issue. The Hebrew tradition of a marriage and what takes place before the wedding leads me to lean to a marriage taking place prior to the ruling of the King during the millenium.




Can I help?

Brother,

Rev 20
4And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.


THE FIRST RESURRECTION! If you deny worship to the beast and have your head removed you will be in the first resurrection..

and remember..

Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection....
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!



Are you equating the first resurrection with a 'rapture'? If so, you are dead wrong.
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do you think SUNday is the mark of
the beast?

What about Christians that go to
church on Sunday? The Bible states
not to forsake the assembling of
yourselves together....
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Do you believe in a 'rapture' of the church?


No. It is not a Hebrew concept and the Scriptures were written by Hebrews as directed by YHWH.


I actually remain on the fence with this issue. The Hebrew tradition of a marriage and what takes place before the wedding leads me to lean to a marriage taking place prior to the ruling of the King during the millenium.




Can I help?

Brother,

Rev 20
4And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.


THE FIRST RESURRECTION! If you deny worship to the beast and have your head removed you will be in the first resurrection..

and remember..

Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection....
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!

Yes, that seems to make it pretty clear that there is one resurrection, just before the wrath takes place. But, traditionally, there are 3 harvests that take place.

I have a big long post on the Bride of Christ, but I don't want to take over Deb's thread, or take if off topic.
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Yes, that seems to make it pretty clear that there is one resurrection, just before the wrath takes place. But, traditionally, there are 3 harvests that take place.

I have a big long post on the Bride of Christ, but I don't want to take over Deb's thread, or take if off topic.
 Quoting: Shamar


51At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook and the rocks split. 52The tombs broke open and the bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53They came out of the tombs, and after Jesus' resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many people.


Sounds like a harvest of souls to me.

2 more to go.

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the sabbath is NOT set in stone where you worship on a sat. or sun. the sabbath is observed by the NEW MOON. the first FULL moon of the month. you can't go by the names of the week which are pagan in origin. also a sabbath is observed from sunrise to sunset. NOT sun down to sun down fri. evening. everything you were taught is a LIE!!!
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No. It is not a Hebrew concept and the Scriptures were written by Hebrews as directed by YHWH.


I actually remain on the fence with this issue. The Hebrew tradition of a marriage and what takes place before the wedding leads me to lean to a marriage taking place prior to the ruling of the King during the millenium.




Can I help?

Brother,

Rev 20
4And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.


THE FIRST RESURRECTION! If you deny worship to the beast and have your head removed you will be in the first resurrection..

and remember..

Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection....

Yes, that seems to make it pretty clear that there is one resurrection, just before the wrath takes place. But, traditionally, there are 3 harvests that take place.

I have a big long post on the Bride of Christ, but I don't want to take over Deb's thread, or take if off topic.
 Quoting: Shamar



Yes yes...

We are saved by hope...
And to keep hope is to post sentry and wait for the grace that is to be given to us on that day...

HalleluYAH...


Deborah,

Did you ever notice on "sunday churches" the big obelisks that are displayed as the "steeple?"
did you know that they're obelisks?
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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do you think SUNday is the mark of
the beast?

What about Christians that go to
church on Sunday? The Bible states
not to forsake the assembling of
yourselves together....
 Quoting: impetigo 519854


I do not think it is THE mark of the beast, but rather part of the 'beast system' of rejecting YHWHs commandments.

I believe that most who attend services on Sunday do so in ignorance, as I once did, not blantant lawlessness.

Scripture does say not to forsake the assembling of yourselves together. We should practice this as the early church did, on Sabbath (Friday sunset - Saturday sunset). As to general fellowship, I recommend that every day of the week, not just one. Gather together in His Name and around His Word anywhere and everywhere, as often as you can. Great way to renew the mind daily.
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do you think SUNday is the mark of
the beast?

What about Christians that go to
church on Sunday? The Bible states
not to forsake the assembling of
yourselves together....
 Quoting: impetigo 519854



Since the verse you are referring to is in the book of Hebrews, written to and for Hebrews, assembling together means the keeping of the Feasts of the Lord which were also called Holy Convocations or Assemblies.
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Yes, that seems to make it pretty clear that there is one resurrection, just before the wrath takes place. But, traditionally, there are 3 harvests that take place.

I have a big long post on the Bride of Christ, but I don't want to take over Deb's thread, or take if off topic.


51At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook and the rocks split. 52The tombs broke open and the bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53They came out of the tombs, and after Jesus' resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many people.


Sounds like a harvest of souls to me.

2 more to go.
 Quoting: ZTE

Now that is an interesting verse to me, because there is virtually no more information given. Did these people have glorified bodies upon coming out of their tombs? did they continue to live on earth? Did they ascend when Yeshua did?
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the sabbath is NOT set in stone where you worship on a sat. or sun. the sabbath is observed by the NEW MOON. the first FULL moon of the month. you can't go by the names of the week which are pagan in origin. also a sabbath is observed from sunrise to sunset. NOT sun down to sun down fri. evening. everything you were taught is a LIE!!!
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Please read the Torah. You will find your correction there. I am not interested in arguments in this thread.

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Deborah,

Did you ever notice on "sunday churches" the big obelisks that are displayed as the "steeple?"
did you know that they're obelisks?
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!

I did!! i did!!
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Do you believe in a 'rapture' of the church?


No. It is not a Hebrew concept and the Scriptures were written by Hebrews as directed by YHWH.


I actually remain on the fence with this issue. The Hebrew tradition of a marriage and what takes place before the wedding leads me to lean to a marriage taking place prior to the ruling of the King during the millenium.

Can I help?

Brother,

Rev 20
4And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.


THE FIRST RESURRECTION! If you deny worship to the beast and have your head removed you will be in the first resurrection..

and remember..

Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection....

Yes, that seems to make it pretty clear that there is one resurrection, just before the wrath takes place. But, traditionally, there are 3 harvests that take place.

I have a big long post on the Bride of Christ, but I don't want to take over Deb's thread, or take if off topic.



Yes yes...

We are saved by hope...
And to keep hope is to post sentry and wait for the grace that is to be given to us on that day...

HalleluYAH...


Deborah,

Did you ever notice on "sunday churches" the big obelisks that are displayed as the "steeple?"
did you know that they're obelisks?
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!


Regarding the steeple/obelisk, yes, and I questioned that at a particularly early age and the adults couldn't really answer, nor seemed interested in seeking the answer.

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Yes, that seems to make it pretty clear that there is one resurrection, just before the wrath takes place. But, traditionally, there are 3 harvests that take place.

I have a big long post on the Bride of Christ, but I don't want to take over Deb's thread, or take if off topic.


51At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook and the rocks split. 52The tombs broke open and the bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53They came out of the tombs, and after Jesus' resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many people.


Sounds like a harvest of souls to me.

2 more to go.

Now that is an interesting verse to me, because there is virtually no more information given. Did these people have glorified bodies upon coming out of their tombs? did they continue to live on earth? Did they ascend when Yeshua did?
 Quoting: Shamar

This would have caused more of a sensation that Jesus returning. No one has a clue what happened to these people. To speculate is pointless.
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Deborah,

Did you ever notice on "sunday churches" the big obelisks that are displayed as the "steeple?"
did you know that they're obelisks?
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!



Steeples, obelisks (like the Washington Monument), “pillars of jealousy”, ziggarats, pyramids, pagodas, spires, stupas and an array of sky-pointing structures are forbidden in Scripture. (Ezekiel 8:5; Jer. 7:31) Pagan sun worshipers, all the way back to the Tower of Babel have erected pointed structures to catch the first “holy” rays of the sun as they gathered for worship in the morning. Thanks to Nimrod, these tall structures are also symbolic of the male generative power, the phallus.
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do you think SUNday is the mark of
the beast?

What about Christians that go to
church on Sunday? The Bible states
not to forsake the assembling of
yourselves together....



Since the verse you are referring to is in the book of Hebrews, written to and for Hebrews, assembling together means the keeping of the Feasts of the Lord which were also called Holy Convocations or Assemblies.
 Quoting: Rev. Mother Nene


Excellent point Nene!! Thank you!

And great to see you!!!
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do you think SUNday is the mark of
the beast?

What about Christians that go to
church on Sunday? The Bible states
not to forsake the assembling of
yourselves together....



Since the verse you are referring to is in the book of Hebrews, written to and for Hebrews, assembling together means the keeping of the Feasts of the Lord which were also called Holy Convocations or Assemblies.
 Quoting: Rev. Mother Nene



RMN!

I was just thinking about you today.

HalleluYAH!
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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This would have caused more of a sensation that Jesus returning. No one has a clue what happened to these people. To speculate is pointless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1119923



42Then he said, "Master, remember me when you come into your reign."
43YHSWH answered him, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise."


Seems like the Garden of Eden finally had some gardeners return to it at the end of that day.





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