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Judgment Day... Are You Ready???

 
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It says exactly what you surmise here. That those who are under judgement in the BILLIONS will die because they refused to believe in the forgiveness of God's Son, Jesus Christ!


That is ice cold, Dusty



As I said before, believe in the written Word of God, The Bible or believe whatever is your fancy.

But the TRUTH will come, the Lord Jesus Christ and
HE WILL JUDGE ALL.

In Jesus Christ.
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I'm inclined to believe that "God is Love" and "Love never fails" ;)
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As I said before, believe in the written Word of God, The Bible or believe whatever is your fancy.

But the TRUTH will come, the Lord Jesus Christ and
HE WILL JUDGE ALL.

In Jesus Christ.
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So even if you've never heard of Jesus Christ, you will suffer eternal damnation for not believing in him?
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I'm inclined to believe that "God is Love" and "Love never fails" ;)
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hf I agree. I've never been fond of fear-mongering for God. My God doesn't hate anyone. Not gays, Buddhists, Jews, Catholics, free-thinkers, scientists, or even transsexuals.
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It says exactly what you surmise here. That those who are under judgement in the BILLIONS will die because they refused to believe in the forgiveness of God's Son, Jesus Christ!


That is ice cold, Dusty



As I said before, believe in the written Word of God, The Bible or believe whatever is your fancy.

But the TRUTH will come, the Lord Jesus Christ and
HE WILL JUDGE ALL.

In Jesus Christ.


I'm inclined to believe that "God is Love" and "Love never fails" ;)
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ah i see, so you think God is a liar when He said in the Bible, the Written Word of God that the only way to Him is through His Son, Jesus Christ?

Believe in your false "love", I'll believe in God and His Word.

In Jesus Christ.
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Tonga, you might wanna check with that one guy and see if he has any Lexapro left.
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Tonga, you might wanna check with that one guy and see if he has any Lexapro left.
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When Tonga 9.2 comes, how will you reconcile yourself with all that you have said?

Will you then abandon your doubt and believe and accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour?

Will you then fear the Lord and know that God is real and turn to Him with a true desire for repentence?

Will you conscious mind be able to bear up to the TRUTH of God and will you humble yourself?

In your rebellion do you think your heart will harden like Pharoah's or will turn to repentence like those of the Ninevites whom Jonah warned?

Will you not hope for the later or will you drown as Pharoah in the sea?
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For only by hearing the good news of Jesus Christ and believing in His Word, are you saved, BY FAITH.

So then, if you never hear the Word, how then can you be saved? You are but in your original state, which is death.

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Can you clarify your last 2 sentences?

So if you've never heard of christianity, you are in a death state?
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According to *some* Christians (they don't all agree on anything), people who never heard of Jesus are exempt from judgment.

Funny how the same people then see it as their mission in life to tell everyone about Jesus, since we'd all be better off never having heard about him in the first place. By telling us about Jesus, they make us go to hell for our sins, while we'd be home free if they'd just shut up about him.

Egotistical bastards...


Wow. Very interesting. So according to those Christians, if they'd just left the rest of the world alone, they'd all be going to heaven automatically. By the Christians coming in and spreading the word, they've actually minimized their chances.

Hmmmm.


It's so Jesus will come back, by their spreading the gospel to the ends of the earth. Multitudes of damned people are a mere side effect, and the bonus is they get to turn their righteous noses up at folks who aren't interested =D

(Nevermind that Colossians says that the gospel "was preached to every creature". . .1900+ years ago)
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How about us creatures born since?
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Tonga, you might wanna check with that one guy and see if he has any Lexapro left.



When Tonga 9.2 comes, how will you reconcile yourself with all that you have said?

Will you then abandon your doubt and believe and accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour?

Will you then fear the Lord and know that God is real and turn to Him with a true desire for repentence?

Will you conscious mind be able to bear up to the TRUTH of God and will you humble yourself?

In your rebellion do you think your heart will harden like Pharoah's or will turn to repentence like those of the Ninevites whom Jonah warned?

Will you not hope for the later or will you drown as Pharoah in the sea?
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Christ is my Savior. Twenty-something years now. Not a problem. The only thing I find more startling than your automatic assumption that everyone is some kind of wanton evildoer is your belief that God cannot save all, and will burn the evidence like some shady weasel. But I actually understand as I too believed these things for a long time. God's purifying fire was an inferno of horror with no constructive aim whatsoever, and "judgment" was an act of disposal instead of a rectification and balancing of accounts. Bottom line is, you get what you're looking for in there. Lots of people are content with the ugly stuff - to each his own, I guess. If you don't believe Christ can save people, then I understand your not caring - you gotta protect our heart however you can.
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For only by hearing the good news of Jesus Christ and believing in His Word, are you saved, BY FAITH.

So then, if you never hear the Word, how then can you be saved? You are but in your original state, which is death.



Can you clarify your last 2 sentences?

So if you've never heard of christianity, you are in a death state?
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Not "Christianity".

If you've never heard of the good news of JESUS CHRIST, you are indeed spiritually dead.

But is God not the Creator?
God honors those who have not heard of Jesus Christ but believed in Him, as being righteous, with the promise of Jesus Christ to come that would deliver them from their SIN, with forgiveness.

Therefore, all who put their hope and trust in God, whom have died without hearing of Jesus Christ, are saved by their Faith in God in their RIGHTEOUSNESS, that they would be saved later when they would hear the testimony of Jesus Christ even after their death.

For did not Jesus Christ, whom died, descend into Hell after His death and preach unto those in the "good part of hell - called Abraham's bosom", who were there waiting for Him because they were righteous, and were they not taken up with Jesus when He ascended?

Ephesians 4: 7-16

7But to each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it. 8This is why it says:
"When he ascended on high,
he led captives in his train
and gave gifts to men." 9(What does "he ascended" mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions? 10He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.) 11It was he who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers, 12to prepare God's people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.

14Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming. 15Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ. 16From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.
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So doesn't that pretty much suck if your a poor farmer living in remote China and you've never heard the name Jesus?

You're doomed simply because of your location?
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So doesn't that pretty much suck if your a poor farmer living in remote China and you've never heard the name Jesus?

You're doomed simply because of your location?
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Have you not heard a thing I said?
Those who believe in God by Faith have the promise of the Saviour.

Such as Abraham and all his spiritual descendents (descendents of his FAITH), because Abraham was counted RIGHTEOUS by God, for his FAITH in Him.

So was Enoch and Noah and some others.

But notice that Noah and his family are the only ones that survived in all of humankind back in his day?

So there are not many RIGHTEOUS men or women living.
Therefore those who have not heard the gospel of Jesus Christ can still be saved by their FAITH in God in RIGHTEOUSNESS, but they are very few for certain.

Rather, the great salvation comes with the Faith in Jesus Christ and the message of His Salvation.

This is the the Way and the Truth and the Life!
For the Lord, knows the hearts of men and He knows who are righteous and faithful to Him.

In Jesus Christ!
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You believe in your own "bullshit" about what you think Jesus Christ is and you don't actually believe in WHO HE IS, as the Bible, The Written Word of God testifies about WHO HE IS.



Just because his interpretation is different than yours doesn't mean he's any less of a christian.

How can you call his beliefs "bullshit" when there are aspects of your own that are appalling?

I would much rather meet him and his open loving God in the afterlife than meet you and your condemnation.

If heaven is full of judgmental, angry folks like yourself, I'll just enjoy purgatory for a while...
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Because the basis of my beliefs comes from the written Word of God, THE BIBLE and it does not diverge from scripture.

Anything that diverges from scripture, the written Word of God, In the Bible, is false and is of the devil.
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So there are not many RIGHTEOUS men or women living.
Therefore those who have not heard the gospel of Jesus Christ can still be saved by their FAITH in God in RIGHTEOUSNESS, but they are very few for certain.

Rather, the great salvation comes with the Faith in Jesus Christ and the message of His Salvation.
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So those farmers in remote China can still be saved even if their faith lays in their Buddhist deities, who to them are their God?

At what point do they have to convert to reach "salvation"?
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So there are not many RIGHTEOUS men or women living.
Therefore those who have not heard the gospel of Jesus Christ can still be saved by their FAITH in God in RIGHTEOUSNESS, but they are very few for certain.

Rather, the great salvation comes with the Faith in Jesus Christ and the message of His Salvation.


So those farmers in remote China can still be saved even if their faith lays in their Buddhist deities, who to them are their God?

At what point do they have to convert to reach "salvation"?
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I said GOD, not budhhist deities or whoever they think is "god".

Abraham rejected all the idols when he lived in UR before God called him out to the promised land.

Abraham believed in his heart that there is a ONE God, Almighty God, a God of JUSTICE and a God of LOVE. God Almighty. This is what is accredited as RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Because Abraham BELIEVED IN THE GOD, GOD ALMIGHTY.

And who validates Abraham's Faith but Jesus Christ? The Son of God, God in the FLESH who came and died for Abraham's FAITH and those who also put their Faith in Jesus Christ. For by His death and resurrection and the blood He spilled for us, we are forgiven our sins when we ask of Him.

Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of the FAITH of the RIGHTEOUS, for He was sent by God to fulfill the FAITH placed in Him, God, Jesus Christ.

In Jesus Christ,

Blessed are those that hear this message and believe!
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Yup. I've stocked up enough ammo, supplies ect...Also been surfing sites in this area. Where they eventually let on to where they live and what they have, guns, food, ect. The end will be the survival of the fitest and to be fit, I will have to take your sh1t.
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Revelation or the time now not before pfffftttt:
#10-10-10/11:11 vs 1 and only.


Im judging the judgers !!









Nothing is hidden in this matrix as was once percieved.
The MULTIVERSE has spoken within REALITY thats recieved.
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Because the basis of my beliefs comes from the written Word of God, THE BIBLE and it does not diverge from scripture.

Anything that diverges from scripture, the written Word of God, In the Bible, is false and is of the devil.
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Does this take into account misprints in the book? Errors in translation? Its been re-translated so many times, its sort of like playing operator where one person whispers into their neighbors ear, continuously, until the message reaches the last person in the chain. 9 times out of 10, the message has been completely lost.

You're not reading the original document from God. Even if God wrote it himself with his 2 hands, man has mucked it up over the milennia.


How do you know large sections have been changed. Why aren't these passages "false and of the devil"?
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Yup. I've stocked up enough ammo, supplies ect...Also been surfing sites in this area. Where they eventually let on to where they live and what they have, guns, food, ect. The end will be the survival of the fitest and to be fit, I will have to take your sh1t.
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Shit, you might not even have to fight for their shit. If "rapture" comes and they are all taken, you can just go and take their guns, ammo & food without a fight.

I'd probably go hit up some Mormons. They stock good shit - and lots of it!
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Because the basis of my beliefs comes from the written Word of God, THE BIBLE and it does not diverge from scripture.

Anything that diverges from scripture, the written Word of God, In the Bible, is false and is of the devil.


Does this take into account misprints in the book? Errors in translation? Its been re-translated so many times, its sort of like playing operator where one person whispers into their neighbors ear, continuously, until the message reaches the last person in the chain. 9 times out of 10, the message has been completely lost.

You're not reading the original document from God. Even if God wrote it himself with his 2 hands, man has mucked it up over the milennia.


How do you know large sections have been changed. Why aren't these passages "false and of the devil"?
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And there we have our problem again.
In so many cases, it is a lack of Faith in God.

If you truly believed in God and believed He exists and believe He is all powerful how then can you ever imagine HIM MAKING A MISTAKE?

TRULY?

DO YOU TRULY BELIEVE IN GOD AND HIS SON JESUS CHRIST?

Therefore this is the problem. You have no Faith and you do not Believe.

For if you had Faith and Believed, you would know how awesome and POWERFUL GOD IS!!!

In Jesus Christ!
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Because the basis of my beliefs comes from the written Word of God, THE BIBLE and it does not diverge from scripture.

Anything that diverges from scripture, the written Word of God, In the Bible, is false and is of the devil.


Does this take into account misprints in the book? Errors in translation? Its been re-translated so many times, its sort of like playing operator where one person whispers into their neighbors ear, continuously, until the message reaches the last person in the chain. 9 times out of 10, the message has been completely lost.

You're not reading the original document from God. Even if God wrote it himself with his 2 hands, man has mucked it up over the milennia.


How do you know large sections have been changed. Why aren't these passages "false and of the devil"?
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Just to be blunt and to tell you clearly.

Your problem is that you don't believe God is real.
If you did, you wouldn't doubt would you?
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But that is the only "god" they know. At what point do they get the chance to redeem for their salvation?

Are they doomed simply because they believe in their own deities?
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But that is the only "god" they know. At what point do they get the chance to redeem for their salvation?

Are they doomed simply because they believe in their own deities?
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And look at Abraham?
How is it that Abraham didn't choose one of the most popular "gods" of his day and believe in it and worship it?

That is no excuse.
All men have in them the knowledge of the true God, if they seek Him, for did He not say?

Matthew 7:7
Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.


For how eager is God to reveal Himself to those who earnestly seek Him?

God does not "hide", He wants to be known, by YOU.

Abraham despite all the famous "gods" or "idols" of his day, rejected it all because he realized that all were nothing but lies. He sought after the TRUE GOD, God Almighty.

Also, as an aside, how can you worship buddha at all? After all he was but a man and no god at all. That in itself should have been more than enough common sense to not worship any such deities.

In Jesus Christ!
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If you truly believed in God and believed He exists and believe He is all powerful how then can you ever imagine HIM MAKING A MISTAKE?

TRULY?

DO YOU TRULY BELIEVE IN GOD AND HIS SON JESUS CHRIST?

Therefore this is the problem. You have no Faith and you do not Believe.


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I never said God made a mistake. I am saying MAN is capable of making great mistakes. The bible has been in 1000s of hands, translated into 10+ versions in English alone, into different languages where passages had to be completely re-written because not all languages have exact meaning for our words. You don't believe, somewhere along the way, the meaning might have gotten lost on a couple of verses here and there?

Or do you honestly think 2000 years later, after many translations, many versions, that the words are exact "as they came from god?" That can't even be the truth. The difference between the KJV and the NIV vary greatly.

Which one of those is correct?
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If you truly believed in God and believed He exists and believe He is all powerful how then can you ever imagine HIM MAKING A MISTAKE?

TRULY?

DO YOU TRULY BELIEVE IN GOD AND HIS SON JESUS CHRIST?

Therefore this is the problem. You have no Faith and you do not Believe.




I never said God made a mistake. I am saying MAN is capable of making great mistakes. The bible has been in 1000s of hands, translated into 10+ versions in English alone, into different languages where passages had to be completely re-written because not all languages have exact meaning for our words. You don't believe, somewhere along the way, the meaning might have gotten lost on a couple of verses here and there?

Or do you honestly think 2000 years later, after many translations, many versions, that the words are exact "as they came from god?" That can't even be the truth. The difference between the KJV and the NIV vary greatly.

Which one of those is correct?
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So then, is it MAN that you have placed your faith in?
And is not THE BIBLE, The Word of God? So do you think MAN is greater than GOD that the mistakes a man makes cannot be easily corrected by GOD ALMIGHTY WHO IS ETERNAL AND LIVES FOREVER?

Perhaps you should truly re-examine where your FAITH is placed?
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Just to be blunt and to tell you clearly.

Your problem is that you don't believe God is real.
If you did, you wouldn't doubt would you?
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I do believe God is real. Just because I don't see him as a vengeful believe-in-me-or-burn-in-hell God doesn't mean I don't believe in him.

I don't believe in using a book to find spirituality between God and myself. When you put the book down, you can see so much more.
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If you truly believed in God and believed He exists and believe He is all powerful how then can you ever imagine HIM MAKING A MISTAKE?

TRULY?

DO YOU TRULY BELIEVE IN GOD AND HIS SON JESUS CHRIST?

Therefore this is the problem. You have no Faith and you do not Believe.




I never said God made a mistake. I am saying MAN is capable of making great mistakes. The bible has been in 1000s of hands, translated into 10+ versions in English alone, into different languages where passages had to be completely re-written because not all languages have exact meaning for our words. You don't believe, somewhere along the way, the meaning might have gotten lost on a couple of verses here and there?

Or do you honestly think 2000 years later, after many translations, many versions, that the words are exact "as they came from god?" That can't even be the truth. The difference between the KJV and the NIV vary greatly.

Which one of those is correct?
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oh and by the way, I have yet to see any such "variations" from different bibles that say something that is totally different to each other.

Not even a single case.
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Just to be blunt and to tell you clearly.

Your problem is that you don't believe God is real.
If you did, you wouldn't doubt would you?


I do believe God is real. Just because I don't see him as a vengeful believe-in-me-or-burn-in-hell God doesn't mean I don't believe in him.

I don't believe in using a book to find spirituality between God and myself. When you put the book down, you can see so much more.
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No, you believe in god alright but its not the God of the Bible.

Its a made up god that you've fashioned from your own imagination like so many others have stated.

For your god has no basis in the Bible, the Word of God.

Therefore, you do not believe in the God of the Bible and the Son of God, Jesus Christ, IN THE BIBLE, yes?

So believe in your make believe god and much as you like but it is by the Word of God, you will be jduged and held accountable.

In Jesus Christ.
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So then, is it MAN that you have placed your faith in?
And is not THE BIBLE, The Word of God? So do you think MAN is greater than GOD that the mistakes a man makes cannot be easily corrected by GOD ALMIGHTY WHO IS ETERNAL AND LIVES FOREVER?

Perhaps you should truly re-examine where your FAITH is placed?
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So you think God stood over the apostles as they were writing. Was he the editor? What if they told a story incorrectly? How would God fix it to make it perfect again?

I'm not putting any faith in man. We are an imperfect species. That's why I doubt the book. 2000 years of human meddling, especially by the Catholic church, can lead to changes.

That's why I work with God directly, because I have faith in him and not in man's edited, heavily translated version of his words.
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So then, is it MAN that you have placed your faith in?
And is not THE BIBLE, The Word of God? So do you think MAN is greater than GOD that the mistakes a man makes cannot be easily corrected by GOD ALMIGHTY WHO IS ETERNAL AND LIVES FOREVER?

Perhaps you should truly re-examine where your FAITH is placed?


So you think God stood over the apostles as they were writing. Was he the editor? What if they told a story incorrectly? How would God fix it to make it perfect again?

I'm not putting any faith in man. We are an imperfect species. That's why I doubt the book. 2000 years of human meddling, especially by the Catholic church, can lead to changes.

That's why I work with God directly, because I have faith in him and not in man's edited, heavily translated version of his words.
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I will not debate your lack of Faith with you.
If you have no Faith in God, that is your problem?
For I cannot fill you with Faith, only God and His Son, Jesus Christ can.

Rather, I will pray that God will give you Faith so that you can believe and be saved.

In Jesus Christ.





GLP