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User ID: 1147918 United States 10/31/2010 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only a complete automation of the State would want to make wild growning plants illegal to investigate. One word defines why it is really illegal; Money. Z Last Edited by zacksavage on 10/31/2010 01:16 PM Free your mind,...your ass will follow. --- parliament funkadelic |
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User ID: 1081881 United States 10/31/2010 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | link.. Quoting: FreeDoom[link to edition.cnn.com] Former U.S. Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders told CNN Sunday she supports legalizing marijuana. The trend-setting state of California is voting next month on a ballot initiative to legalize pot, also known as Proposition 19. The measure would legalize recreational use in the state, though federal officials have said they would continue to enforce drug laws in California if the initiative is approved. "What I think is horrible about all of this, is that we criminalize young people. And we use so many of our excellent resources ... for things that aren't really causing any problems," said Elders. "It's not a toxic substance." Listen Learn Love |
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User ID: 1147925 United States 10/31/2010 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah but then who would fill all those nice prisons? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1147915Oh, I don't know. Maybe all those rapists and murderers that get out early on parole because there's no room for them. John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. |
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User ID: 1146256 United States 10/31/2010 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only a complete automation of the State would want to make wild growning plants illegal to investigate. Quoting: zacksavageOne word defines why it is really illegal; Money. Z I agree. Can you even imagine the taxes on buying it legally though?!?! I mean look at the taxes on Cigarettes...remember it is a plant too but they have added a bunch of SHIT to it...just like they will any plant...It would be sad really... Total OUtcast |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1147710 United States 10/31/2010 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surgeon general has rocks in her head! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1145428And you have cement in yours. Proposition 19 doesn't have a chance in hell in passing either. Only marytards smoke this crap. Go ahead keep smoking it. Should be used only for the Ill with no other chance of pain relief that's it. No easy stop and shop for morons who like to smoke weed and ruin their brains. |
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User ID: 1147620 United Kingdom 10/31/2010 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only a complete automation of the State would want to make wild growning plants illegal to investigate. Quoting: zacksavageOne word defines why it is really illegal; Money. Z Even that really doesn't explain it since they could make a massive amount from taxing it. |
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User ID: 1146256 United States 10/31/2010 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surgeon general has rocks in her head! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1147710And you have cement in yours. Proposition 19 doesn't have a chance in hell in passing either. Only marytards smoke this crap. Go ahead keep smoking it. Should be used only for the Ill with no other chance of pain relief that's it. No easy stop and shop for morons who like to smoke weed and ruin their brains. We are all in pain honey. I don't ACTIVELY use Cannabis but when I am in pain Id MUCH rather use it than some of the shit they give me to use!!! Cannabis ruins your brain?? Prove it. Total OUtcast |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1147341 United States 10/31/2010 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surgeon general has rocks in her head! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1147710And you have cement in yours. Proposition 19 doesn't have a chance in hell in passing either. Only marytards smoke this crap. Go ahead keep smoking it. Should be used only for the Ill with no other chance of pain relief that's it. No easy stop and shop for morons who like to smoke weed and ruin their brains. i don't smoke the stuff, but this fuck is FUNNY!! made my morning! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1147710 United States 10/31/2010 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surgeon general has rocks in her head! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1147341And you have cement in yours. Proposition 19 doesn't have a chance in hell in passing either. Only marytards smoke this crap. Go ahead keep smoking it. Should be used only for the Ill with no other chance of pain relief that's it. No easy stop and shop for morons who like to smoke weed and ruin their brains. i don't smoke the stuff, but this fuck is FUNNY!! made my morning! Yea, and so are you |
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User ID: 1147942 United States 10/31/2010 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree. Can you even imagine the taxes on buying it legally though?!?! I mean look at the taxes on Cigarettes...remember it is a plant too but they have added a bunch of SHIT to it...just like they will any plant...It would be sad really... Quoting: Sweet.SkitzoI just want it all decriminalized. I don't think it should be taxed. There is no crime being commited imo. As to your sadness,...think carrots! You can buy them at the store all pesticided or, you can grow your own/ buy from the farmers market. Z Free your mind,...your ass will follow. --- parliament funkadelic |
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User ID: 1146256 United States 10/31/2010 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree. Can you even imagine the taxes on buying it legally though?!?! I mean look at the taxes on Cigarettes...remember it is a plant too but they have added a bunch of SHIT to it...just like they will any plant...It would be sad really... Quoting: zacksavageI just want it all decriminalized. I don't think it should be taxed. There is no crime being commited imo. As to your sadness,...think carrots! You can buy them at the store all pesticided or, you can grow your own/ buy from the farmers market. Z Yea but you know they will tax it...after they add whatever they choose to it. Total OUtcast |
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(OP) User ID: 1145519 United States 10/31/2010 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Marijuana Tax Act of 1937. After two years of secret planning, Anslinger brought his plan to Congress — complete with a scrapbook full of sensational Hearst editorials, stories of ax murderers who had supposedly smoked marijuana, and racial slurs. It was a remarkably short set of hearings. The one fly in Anslinger’s ointment was the appearance by Dr. William C. Woodward, Legislative Council of the American Medical Association. Woodward started by slamming Harry Anslinger and the Bureau of Narcotics for distorting earlier AMA statements that had nothing to do with marijuana and making them appear to be AMA endorsement for Anslinger’s view. He also reproached the legislature and the Bureau for using the term marijuana in the legislation and not publicizing it as a bill about cannabis or hemp. At this point, marijuana (or marihuana) was a sensationalist word used to refer to Mexicans smoking a drug and had not been connected in most people’s minds to the existing cannabis/hemp plant. Thus, many who had legitimate reasons to oppose the bill weren’t even aware of it. Woodward went on to state that the AMA was opposed to the legislation and further questioned the approach of the hearings, coming close to outright accusation of misconduct by Anslinger and the committee: Yellow Journalism Harry Anslinger got some additional help from William Randolf Hearst, owner of a huge chain of newspapers. Hearst had lots of reasons to help. First, he hated Mexicans. Second, he had invested heavily in the timber industry to support his newspaper chain and didn’t want to see the development of hemp paper in competition. Third, he had lost 800,000 acres of timberland to Pancho Villa, so he hated Mexicans. Fourth, telling lurid lies about Mexicans (and the devil marijuana weed causing violence) sold newspapers, making him rich. In the early days of our nation, the hemp plant (a.k.a. cannabis) proved a valuable resource for hundreds of years, instrumental in the making of fabric, paper and other necessities. This changed during the Industrial Revolution, which rendered tree-pulp papermaking and synthetic fibers more cost-effective through the rise of assembly line manufacturing methods. A more efficient way of utilizing hemp was a bit slower in coming.It was not until the early 1930's that a new technique for using hemp pulp for papermaking was developed by the Department of Agriculture, in conjunction with the patenting of the hemp decorticator (a machine that revolutionized the harvesting of hemp). These innovations promised to reduce the cost of producing hemp-pulp paper to less than half the cost of tree-pulp paper. Since hemp is an annually renewable source, which requires minimal chemical treatment to process, the advent of hemp pulp paper would allegedly have been better for the environment than the sulfuric acid wood-pulping process. Hemp had many champions, who predicted that its abundance and versatility would soon revitalize the American economy. William Randolph Hearst, media mogul, billionaire and real-life model for Orson Welles' Citizen Kane, had different ideas. His aggressive efforts to demonize cannabis were so effective, they continue to color popular opinion today.In the early 1930's, Hearst owned a good deal of timber acreage; one might say that he had the monopoly on this market. The threatened advent of mass hemp production proved a considerable threat to his massive paper-mill holdings -- he stood to lose many, many millions of dollars to the lowly hemp plant. Hearst cleverly utilized his immense national network of newspapers and magazines to spread wildly inaccurate and sensational stories of the evils of cannabis or "marihuana," a phrase brought into the common parlance, in part due to frequent mentions in his publications. Last Edited by FreeDoom on 10/31/2010 01:48 PM |
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User ID: 1147953 United States 10/31/2010 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Hearst cleverly utilized his immense national network of newspapers and magazines to spread wildly inaccurate and sensational stories of the evils of cannabis or "marihuana," a phrase brought into the common parlance, in part due to frequent mentions in his publications." Crazy,...as I read your post FreeDoom, I immediately thought of Edward Bernays. And sure enough I searched Google and found the connection. It was hard opening some of the pages when searching "Hearst Bernays" and I may have picked up a virus. Funny. Z Last Edited by zacksavage on 10/31/2010 02:14 PM Free your mind,...your ass will follow. --- parliament funkadelic |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1132432 United States 10/31/2010 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | link.. Quoting: FreeDoom[link to edition.cnn.com] Former U.S. Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders told CNN Sunday she supports legalizing marijuana. The trend-setting state of California is voting next month on a ballot initiative to legalize pot, also known as Proposition 19. The measure would legalize recreational use in the state, though federal officials have said they would continue to enforce drug laws in California if the initiative is approved. "What I think is horrible about all of this, is that we criminalize young people. And we use so many of our excellent resources ... for things that aren't really causing any problems," said Elders. "It's not a toxic substance." Next it's total legal gay marriage....then animal sex and marriage....etc. etc..... |
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User ID: 855682 Canada 10/31/2010 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surgeon general has rocks in her head! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1147710This is the kind of response you always hear from someone when a person of note disagrees with their view on the subject. Newsflash dude, she didn't get to be the surgeon general by not knowing anything. The thing that bugs me about all this is that these people who are in a position to make a real difference always keep their mouths shut while they're still employed by the govt't. They sit back and let the state arrest and imprison peaceful and otherwise law abiding citizens, throwing them in with violent offenders and basically wrecking their lives....but as soon as they don't have to worry about their own jobs, all of a sudden their conscience gets the best of them and they speak the truth. Wouldn't it be great to heal the world, with only a song? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1147710 United States 10/31/2010 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surgeon general has rocks in her head! Quoting: Sweet.SkitzoAnd you have cement in yours. Proposition 19 doesn't have a chance in hell in passing either. Only marytards smoke this crap. Go ahead keep smoking it. Should be used only for the Ill with no other chance of pain relief that's it. No easy stop and shop for morons who like to smoke weed and ruin their brains. We are all in pain honey. I don't ACTIVELY use Cannabis but when I am in pain Id MUCH rather use it than some of the shit they give me to use!!! Cannabis ruins your brain?? Prove it. Prove it?? Just read 40 percent of the threads in GLF. Nuf said. |