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i just got a voicemail about this and this is all i could find:

The Pentagon's new Cyber Command is seeking authority to attack computer networks around the globe to protect American interests, drawing objections from Obama administration lawyers uncertain about the legality of offensive operations.

Cyber Command's commander, General Keith Alexander, who also heads the National Security Agency, wants his new command to be able to mount what he has called ''the full spectrum'' of operations in cyberspace.

Offensive actions could include shutting down part of an opponent's computer network or changing a line of code in an adversary's computer. They are operations that destroy, disrupt or degrade targeted computers or networks.


[link to www.smh.com.au]


my understanding is that this is about to happen
"By way of deception, thou shalt do war."

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Thought they did that ever new year with bogus antivirus attacks that infect your computer so bad you have to wipe or BUY A NEW ONE.

Stoopid thread conceptually. Computers are so cheap the damn things are veritably disposable at this point in time.
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Thought they did that ever new year with bogus antivirus attacks that infect your computer so bad you have to wipe or BUY A NEW ONE.

Stoopid thread conceptually. Computers are so cheap the damn things are veritably disposable at this point in time.
 Quoting: X 1154792


um, yeah....

what we are talking about here is no different than lighting up an EMP over a city, if you have studied asymmetrical warfare, this is first strike, and would attack everything from utilities, to banks, to command and control centers. and yes i understand the limitations to a "hardened" facility, along with the role of moles.
remember that we recently lost control of our nukes for a brief period recently

connect the dots
"By way of deception, thou shalt do war."

Israel's Mossad

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U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto
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they already do this, just ask alex
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Thought they did that ever new year with bogus antivirus attacks that infect your computer so bad you have to wipe or BUY A NEW ONE.

Stoopid thread conceptually. Computers are so cheap the damn things are veritably disposable at this point in time.


um, yeah....

what we are talking about here is no different than lighting up an EMP over a city, if you have studied asymmetrical warfare, this is first strike, and would attack everything from utilities, to banks, to command and control centers. and yes i understand the limitations to a "hardened" facility, along with the role of moles.
remember that we recently lost control of our nukes for a brief period recently

connect the dots

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they already do this, just ask alex
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rolleyes


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So then what happens if the US cyber attacks, then they retaliate with a counter attack and shut down our banking system or something!!! Sounds like a horrible idea.
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i just got a voicemail about this and this is all i could find:

The Pentagon's new Cyber Command is seeking authority to attack computer networks around the globe to protect American interests, drawing objections from Obama administration lawyers uncertain about the legality of offensive operations.

Cyber Command's commander, General Keith Alexander, who also heads the National Security Agency, wants his new command to be able to mount what he has called ''the full spectrum'' of operations in cyberspace.

Offensive actions could include shutting down part of an opponent's computer network or changing a line of code in an adversary's computer. They are operations that destroy, disrupt or degrade targeted computers or networks.


[link to www.smh.com.au]


my understanding is that this is about to happen
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The Pentagon want to kill or destroy anyone or anything in its path.
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we will lose this cyber world soon mybe from this cyber attack mybe the sun then we will have to stand up and explane what we have lernt here we should speak out while we can its easy now speak to every one you can the next internet will be in the mind
The more we observe with our science the more we may come to think that magic and sorcery are just a better explanation.
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It's on....we're FUCKED! Hope we hit checkmate before then, though.....
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hmm what a revolting development




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They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out.
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they already do this. they definitely do it to every targeted individual in the United States.

so, I guess regular Americans are the enemy?
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Re: Pentagon wants to wage cyber attack on enemies
i just got a voicemail about this and this is all i could find:

The Pentagon's new Cyber Command is seeking authority to attack computer networks around the globe to protect American interests, drawing objections from Obama administration lawyers uncertain about the legality of offensive operations.

Cyber Command's commander, General Keith Alexander, who also heads the National Security Agency, wants his new command to be able to mount what he has called ''the full spectrum'' of operations in cyberspace.

Offensive actions could include shutting down part of an opponent's computer network or changing a line of code in an adversary's computer. They are operations that destroy, disrupt or degrade targeted computers or networks.


[link to www.smh.com.au]


my understanding is that this is about to happen
 Quoting: malu



Since when did our government worry about doing something that wasn't legal? Seems a little disingenuous all things considered.

We didn't get THIS Popular globally by worrying about legalities! ;)
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hey onyx, what is that object in your hand? I have seen those glyphs before.
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wow.........malu's back?!?
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thanks for the pin

i believe this to be of significant value. my first reaction was "oh chit"
way to many things are not adding up. the pentagon hates obama, and i still pick up chatter of coupe, obama leaves the country, the pentagon "asks permission"

we lose control of our nukes, we still have a nuke missing from minot airbase, osama is back in the news, al ciada is trying to blow up everything that leaves the ground

i don't know? the train is about to come off the tracks. i don't post much anymore, but i believe this is one of the key indicators that i am personally watching for
"By way of deception, thou shalt do war."

Israel's Mossad

"The truth shall set you free."

U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto
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Ditto.

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wow.........malu's back?!?
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i have been here everyday

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with a slightly lower profile ;)
"By way of deception, thou shalt do war."

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Re: Pentagon wants to wage cyber attack on enemies
i just got a voicemail about this and this is all i could find:

The Pentagon's new Cyber Command is seeking authority to attack computer networks around the globe to protect American interests, drawing objections from Obama administration lawyers uncertain about the legality of offensive operations.

Cyber Command's commander, General Keith Alexander, who also heads the National Security Agency, wants his new command to be able to mount what he has called ''the full spectrum'' of operations in cyberspace.

Offensive actions could include shutting down part of an opponent's computer network or changing a line of code in an adversary's computer. They are operations that destroy, disrupt or degrade targeted computers or networks.


[link to www.smh.com.au]


my understanding is that this is about to happen



Since when did our government worry about doing something that wasn't legal? Seems a little disingenuous all things considered.

We didn't get THIS Popular globally by worrying about legalities! ;)
 Quoting: ^Watcher^


Btw, I was being sarcastic about the "popular" remark. My fear is that if they get the shot, they will take it.

They say it is to "protect American interests". Are those the "interests" that actually benefit us or the "interests" we as American citizens know nothing about, benefit only the shadow governments and are probably totally illegal to begin with. I'm betting it's the latter.
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Ditto.

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thritto
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Btw, I was being sarcastic about the "popular" remark. My fear is that if they get the shot, they will take it.

They say it is to "protect American interests". Are those the "interests" that actually benefit us or the "interests" we as American citizens know nothing about, benefit only the shadow governments and are probably totally illegal to begin with. I'm betting it's the latter.
 Quoting: ^Watcher^


i totally understood your remark. i was reading the article again at the activist post and caught this:
The real issue, said another U.S. official, is defining the battlefield. "Operations in the cyber-world can't be likened to Yorktown, Iwo Jima or the Inchon landing," he said. "Defining the battlefield too broadly could lead to undesired consequences, so you have to manage the potential risks. Getting to the enemy could mean touching friends along the way."

nice, just lovely. anyways, we also have the cia and the pentagon fighting over who is going to wage this little attack, just gets better by the minute.

well i have to hit it, just thought this was worth sharing. peace
"By way of deception, thou shalt do war."

Israel's Mossad

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U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto
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i just got a voicemail about this and this is all i could find:

The Pentagon's new Cyber Command is seeking authority to attack computer networks around the globe to protect American interests, drawing objections from Obama administration lawyers uncertain about the legality of offensive operations.

Cyber Command's commander, General Keith Alexander, who also heads the National Security Agency, wants his new command to be able to mount what he has called ''the full spectrum'' of operations in cyberspace.

Offensive actions could include shutting down part of an opponent's computer network or changing a line of code in an adversary's computer. They are operations that destroy, disrupt or degrade targeted computers or networks.


[link to www.smh.com.au]


my understanding is that this is about to happen
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Three bullshit flags for this thread:
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Your a bit late, they already cyber attacked Iran...
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It's kinda funny how cyber attacks don't count as acts of war, just another loop-hole in International Law.
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i just got a voicemail about this and this is all i could find:

The Pentagon's new Cyber Command is seeking authority to attack computer networks around the globe to protect American interests, drawing objections from Obama administration lawyers uncertain about the legality of offensive operations.

Cyber Command's commander, General Keith Alexander, who also heads the National Security Agency, wants his new command to be able to mount what he has called ''the full spectrum'' of operations in cyberspace.

Offensive actions could include shutting down part of an opponent's computer network or changing a line of code in an adversary's computer. They are operations that destroy, disrupt or degrade targeted computers or networks.


[link to www.smh.com.au]


my understanding is that this is about to happen
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Many have tryed to control communications in the past,all have failed.

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pentagon spam? pretty childish.

What are they gonna do, the old Prince Albert in a Can?
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i just got a voicemail about this and this is all i could find:

The Pentagon's new Cyber Command is seeking authority to attack computer networks around the globe to protect American interests, drawing objections from Obama administration lawyers uncertain about the legality of offensive operations.

Cyber Command's commander, General Keith Alexander, who also heads the National Security Agency, wants his new command to be able to mount what he has called ''the full spectrum'' of operations in cyberspace.

Offensive actions could include shutting down part of an opponent's computer network or changing a line of code in an adversary's computer. They are operations that destroy, disrupt or degrade targeted computers or networks.


[link to www.smh.com.au]


my understanding is that this is about to happen
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bsflag whatever burnit
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Hello Malu - been a while, a pleasure, as always. Gotta go. Cheers
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Hello Malu - been a while, a pleasure, as always. Gotta go. Cheers
 Quoting: SEADOG 870199

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Seadog! Long time no see. aq hi 02

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