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Jim Cash, Brig. General USAF (Ret) speaks about the missile launch.

 
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Jim Cash, Brig. General USAF (Ret) speaks about the missile launch.
Sliding silently under the mud, muck and fog of national politics, is a current event that makes Bill Clinton's excursion into the world of elderly sex look tame in comparison.  This time the nation's national security is truly threatened in my opinion, and it involves not only a weak President with limited problem-solving ability, but leadership at the highest levels in the Pentagon as well.  The American people would do well to demand a full investigation by an unbiased group, and let the chips fall where they may.  I am referring to the "missile shot" taken of California coast recently, and the lame response by NORAD, the Pentagon and the White House itself.


First, in hope of adding some creditability to my assessment of what really happened just off the coast of Los Angeles let me convey a bit of my background which can be checked easily by going to Google and typing in my name.   An Air Force biography will appear.


During the late eighties I was assigned to NORAD, as a Command Director initially and later as the assistant Director of Operations for NORAD.  The NORAD operation was located inside the Cheyenne Mountain complex just outside Colorado Springs, Colorado.  Twenty four hours a day a team of approximately 150 highly trained individuals, lead by a Brigadier General, monitored one of the most sophisticated computer systems in the world.  This system was fed data from many different sensors that were able to detect missile shots from any point on the globe.  All this data was taken into consideration when making the "assessment" as whether or not North America and/or Canada were threatened by such a launch.  If the launch was assessed as a true threat, the President was contacted immediately by NORAD through a military individual always close to the President who carried what we called, "the football", a black brief case with release codes for our nuclear forces.   I know the system well, as for near three years I led one of those teams.


In addition, for over 25 years, I flew US Air Force fighters to include the F-106, F-4, F-15, F-16, and commanded an F-15 Squadron and an F-16 Wing.  The sole purpose of the F-106 assignment was to maintain an ability to become airborne in minutes to intercept inbound bombers posing a threat to the US mainland.  Untold hours were spent studying and being tested on visually identifying an air-to-air threat to include its type and threat potential.  I understand the difference in an aircraft contrail and a missile launch contrail.


In my opinion there is absolutely no doubt that what was captured on video off the coast of California was a missile launch, was clearly observed by NORAD, assessed by a four-star General in minutes, and passed to the President immediately.  That is the way the system works, and heads fall if there is a failure.  This is one of the most important tenets of National Defense and its sole purpose of protecting the American people.  Even the smallest failure in this system gets intense scrutiny at the highest level.


Now, the question that still must be answered is why NORAD's muted response was simply that North America was not threatened, and later our government approved the lame excuse that the picture recorded was simply an aircraft leaving a contrail.  This decision was made far above the four-star level, and because the system in place demands it, was made by the President himself.


There are many possible answers to the question why.  Normally, when a situation of this nature occurs the decision makers in Washington feel it would create panic among the mere mortals who go to work every day.  To avoid shocking the population the truth is shaded, or sometimes just kept quite in hope it will just go away.  I would say to our government officials who disregard the intelligence of the American people, be careful.  The people are awakening, and their trust in our government is fading.  This level of decision making will hasten that process.


In my opinion we must question the timing of this shot across our bow.  The President was abroad being diplomatic, which means trying to placate China which is becoming overly concerned with our handling a totally out of control deficient in spending.  They do not want our debt to them be paid in cheapened US dollars, and it appears that our current plan is to do just that.  China is devoting a major portion of their GDP to defense spending, and what better time to show the US that they can slip a missile equipped submarine through the South Pacific undetected right up to one of our largest cities, than right now.  And, the Chinese have the guts to do it.


Important in my opinion is that once again the leader of this nation chose to disguise the truth and keep the American people in the dark on an issue that constitutes a major threat to the entire population of the United States of America.  This is no longer a threat to only our military thousands of miles from the homeland.  This is a show of force sending a signal that downtown USA is now capably of being hit by an undetected submarine and at any time.  It may very well be the beginning of the real power struggle between the United States and China. If so, I predict the next phase will be China's demand for the US to cease support of Taiwan, and so it goes. 


President Obama is getting in over his head once again on this one.  Hiding the severity of issues we face with China to include this possible signal of strength is a terrible mistake.  It is happening at a time that our Secretary of Defense, under the guidance of the President, is literally gutting our military forces.  We have seen it already when the F-22 buy was cut from over 600 aircraft to 187, and research and development for follow on systems severely reduced.  This is but one of hundreds of examples of military reductions.  I fear that this could be another reason for this cover-up.  If the American people fully realized the severity of the threat they might demand restoring our military to face the growing threat from China and Russia, as opposed to the massive domestic spending that we have witnessed over the past two years.


So, where does this leave us?  Again, the people must decide and place pressure on the government to insure that our National Security remains intact.  Military strength prevents war.  Military weakness invites not only war, but also a lack of deterrence for intervention and bullying on many fronts.


If there was ever a time for the people to look closely at the national leadership and demand honesty and integrity, it is now.  This is not a Democrat or Republican issue.  At issue is electing those who have the ability to make proper decisions for our country, and will do so with no regard to their own personal gain.  It is time to elect a President and a Congress who will put country above self, and defend this great nation against all enemies, foreign or domestic, and above all be honest with the people who honored them with election to high office.


Jim Cash

Brig. Gen., USAF, Ret.
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General - Thank you for your assessment. Couldn't agree more. The MSM buried this for the puppet master.

Sir, please comment as to when the provisions of our constitution require the Chiefs to address the enemy within?
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This thread seems to be a phantom thread. It's not deleted but not visible on any page. WTF
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Wicked, thx OP. Threads like these are why I come to this madhouse.
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You were just there and you couldn't include it?
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Rocket efflux blows out forming a distinctive pattern as it is exhausted under pressure. Looks like a stacked series of crescents in the sky, as if the exhaust were squirted out of a giant icing piping bag under pressure. Does not happen with contrails. The crescents are visible in the video.
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You were just there and you couldn't include it?
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Rocket efflux blows out forming a distinctive pattern as it is exhausted under pressure. Looks like a stacked series of crescents in the sky, as if the exhaust were squirted out of a giant icing piping bag under pressure. Does not happen with contrails. The crescents are visible in the video.
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It wasn't a commercial jet, that much is certain. Too many of my military friends and family are raising the bsflag on the government's explanation.
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So we have that 3 star General on Fox saying it was 100% NOT an airliner contrail, and now a 1 star echoing the same. One COMMANDED NORAD as we see above, and both were career military USAF aviators who saw many missile launches. So, now a weatherman dickhead is saying that BOTH Generals are full of shit and it was an airplane??


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It was an airplane.
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It was an airplane.
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lol ok.
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It was an airplane.


lol ok.
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It was an airplane.


lol ok.


[link to contrailscience.com]
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I seriously hope you didn't buy into that ats thread darwad.
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It helps if you know how to spell moron dipshit, but funny post
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It was an airplane.


lol ok.


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I seriously hope you didn't buy into that ats thread darwad.
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Yeah, cuz pictures and data are bullshit compared to a retired general's opinion right? Hey, remember that time when they told us Iraq had wmd's? It was totally true because a retired general said so on fox news.
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lol ok.


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I seriously hope you didn't buy into that ats thread darwad.


Yeah, cuz pictures and data are bullshit compared to a retired general's opinion right? Hey, remember that time when they told us Iraq had wmd's? It was totally true because a retired general said so on fox news.
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You must be new here. And because you sound like a "progressive" I must assume you don't know any better. Disinformation can be very effective it seems, especially with Photoshop.
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Funny, the "no wmd" is common in the "progressive" but dense crowds. I know people working in the pentagon during these events/years with primary knowledge that we did, without debate, find WMD. It was buried to save face on behalf of... wait for it.... the fucking French! I don't have more details than this, there certainly could have been others, but the jist the the issue was that allied fingerprints were all over what was found. On a greater philosophical level however, how is it the "progressives" can be so arrogant in their enlightenment, yet so ignorant. Well, for starters, as Dr. Sowell points out, teachers and educators are at the bottom of the intellectual ladder and have been since the early 20th century as evidenced by nearly all standardized test scores, entrance exams, etc. So that's not a good start, making teachers more at risk for dumb, un-intellectual passions such as the environmental movement, organic vegetables, man-made global warming, etc. However, does anyone else just cringe at the inconsistency when it comes to trusting government? I think Jeffersonian Limited-Gov. Conservatives are like soldiers, they are the ones that least glorify war, yet are they very ones who step forward to do the fighting. Conservatives least like government, keep it at arms length, yet know what it is good for, what it does well, and when to trust it. Why do the progressives not trust their glorious government when they're making their pronouncements on the strange smoke trails, or what THEY actually know about the situation; as in Iraq, WMD, Afghanistan, etc. but then they DO trust their government, without reservation, to provide and manage healthcare? This should tell you all you need to know about the intellectual veracity of your modern liberal, progressive.

/j, TX
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