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Schools charging AUTISTIC & SPECIAL NEEDS children with ASSAULT!! ????? WTF is wrong with society?
The asshole that I married and still trying to divorce decided to put all my kids in school. My youngest is Autistic and started school in August. His behavior has become sooooo much worse than before entering school. He's much more angry and aggressive all the time now. He acts out at school by hitting, kicking, spitting, running, etc.

About 2 weeks ago I asked the principal to recommend that he be removed from school since I am forbidden from removing him at the present time by the Temporary Orders of the divorce. She said she couldn't do that as she must accomodate him and provide what he needs.

BUT she also said that the laws change once he turns 10, and that he can be charged with assault.

My son turned 10 the 26th of Nov.

I started looking on the internet and found many stories.

WTF kind of people would charge autistic children with assault?

What does this say about society?

Like it wasn't fucked up enough...now this?

Here's some stories...

[link to www.spectrumpublications.com]

[link to specialchildren.about.com]

[link to www.capecodonline.com]



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Dont they have schools for the handicapped in your area? My son went 10 yeas to a school for the handicapped now he is 42 and goes to an Adult day center for the handicapped. I would worry to much sending them to a regular school even if they had classrooms for them, they still would have to be around so call normal kids making fun of them, they have feeling too.
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Look into sensory integration therapy for your autistic son and help him while you can. In the meantime keep working on getting him out of school. Talk to the judge and tell him your circumstances and concerns. The divorce alone is going to be difficult for your son.

Yes these kids are being targeted deliberately. Hopefully you won't have to find out why the hard way DA but no one is really immune... not even COINTELPRO agents dear.
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Man its a complex issue and not one with easy answers.
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The asshole that I married and still trying to divorce decided to put all my kids in school.
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Sounds like a smart guy.
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Anyone have any personal experiences to share?
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My autistic nephew is over 21 and occasionally "goes off" in public places, supermarkets, etc. and kicks people who have nothing to do with whoever was with him and triggered the upset (he has 24/7 supervision). He has been charged with assault (justifiedly so, I believe...) at least 3 times and my sister's attorney always gets him off on grounds that he is disabled and the behavior is part of his disability.

I doubt that you can accomplish anything like that outside of school without a lawyer, but there should be some kind of advocate within the school system who could prevent assault charges within a school by reminding administrators of the law.
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I don't doubt it... This sound's fucked up.

Here's the problem though... This is your kid...that means that he/she is your responsibility. Ultimately, this is your responsibility to put your autistic kid into a "special" school. Forget what your man say's...you need to take action in what you know is the right thing to do. If he has a problem with that, then "fuck him" (in other words, don't "fuck him";).

This is just a little "speed bump"...you'll get through it, no problem...only if you learn from this.

I hope everything works out...
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What's sad is that many school districts don't/can't afford (?) to train their teachers on how to deal with children with Autism. My son has been in a regular classroom the last two years- last year with an aide, this year without. While the primary teachers have been very understanding, I do not believe that the teachers who teach gym and art and other "special" classes, are understanding at all. They do not know how to handle these kids, I think partly because there has never been a reason to train them. They also see kids like these maybe once a week, for an hour at most. So when the child exhibits behavior they're not used to, they assume the kid is acting out on purpose, and so they treat them like they would any other student. A better understand of child with Autism's needs - be it sensory, behavioral, social - is necessary. It should be a requirement that all teachers go through some kind of seminar or something. I have heard from therapists that working with these teachers can be a nightmare, because many have never heard of Sensory Processing, much less believe it's an actual diagnosis of a serious problem. My son has gotten in trouble twice this year for things which in my belief, were not really in his control. It's ridiculous. He's only 7, though. Puberty has not come into play yet, and I really don't look forward to when it does.
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Just a theory:

Autism is not a disorder but more of a genetic mutation that has arisen from centuries of humans being bloodlined and genetically tampered with in order to be mind controlled. Autistics are resistant to it. I am not just talking about full blown autistics, I am talking about the full spectrum. So other means must be implemented to control them. Sometimes they are tortured, of course more often they are refered to psych agencies that isolate and pigeonhole them away from mainstream (mind controlled) society. In the case of this thread they are being labled as violent and crazy and treated as criminals for reacting to the insanity around them that is a slave existence. Autistics see this very clearly because of the resistance to programming. Many higher functioning autistics get hearded into the new age movement to be programmed and controlled as indigo or crystal children.

Interesting the OP's kid is an autistic. Explains alot.
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I think the best thing we can do is ensure all of the seas of special needs children have at least 10-15 children themselves.
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Normal children have SPECIAL NEEDS too, like the need to be protected from violence. Hard as it may be for you to understand, other people do not want THEIR children to be beaten, kicked and spat on on a daily basis during their entire school life, just because their children had the bad luck to get stuck in the same class as your "special" son.

You and your ex should move him to a special school properly equipped to take care of him. Non-special schools are for non-special children, AKA children that can function reasonably normally in a group.

Your son can't do this! He's AUTISTIC for crying out loud! He CAN NOT function in a big group, period! WTF is he doing in a normal school class?!! The only thing that will happen, is that he will ruin the classroom situation completely for everyone.

As an autist, he needs a very controlled and calm environment, where his many convoluted personal routines are undisturbed, and where the teachers have lots of time to spend one-on-one with him. This is NOT the case in a normal school class, so STFU about the teachers not taking proper care of him, or not having the proper "training"! A class teacher CAN'T spend 80 % of the time making sure your son isn't running amok, they have 25 other kids to care for as well! Have you even thought about that?

When people charge these kids with assault, it's simply a desperate attempt to get them out of the way, so the OTHER 25 kids in the class won't have to live in a constant nightmare.

Put him in a suitable school form yourself BEFORE all the other parents have had enough and call on the government to intervene.
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Normal children have SPECIAL NEEDS too, like the need to be protected from violence. Hard as it may be for you to understand, other people do not want THEIR children to be beaten, kicked and spat on on a daily basis during their entire school life, just because their children had the bad luck to get stuck in the same class as your "special" son.

You and your ex should move him to a special school properly equipped to take care of him. Non-special schools are for non-special children, AKA children that can function reasonably normally in a group.

Your son can't do this! He's AUTISTIC for crying out loud! He CAN NOT function in a big group, period! WTF is he doing in a normal school class?!! The only thing that will happen, is that he will ruin the classroom situation completely for everyone.

As an autist, he needs a very controlled and calm environment, where his many convoluted personal routines are undisturbed, and where the teachers have lots of time to spend one-on-one with him. This is NOT the case in a normal school class, so STFU about the teachers not taking proper care of him, or not having the proper "training"! A class teacher CAN'T spend 80 % of the time making sure your son isn't running amok, they have 25 other kids to care for as well! Have you even thought about that?

When people charge these kids with assault, it's simply a desperate attempt to get them out of the way, so the OTHER 25 kids in the class won't have to live in a constant nightmare.

Put him in a suitable school form yourself BEFORE all the other parents have had enough and call on the government to intervene.
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That's right... let's lock up all the autistic kids away from the rest of society so the other kids need not be subjected to their violent behaviors? This was exactly what I was talking about earlier...

How about this... how about as a race of humans we realize that we are not robots or zombies or sheep to all be and act the same way and make allowance and understanding for all? How about we teach our kids who are not 'special needs' to consider and make room for kids who are different and unique? How about we teach our 'normal' kids that different does not mean damaged or broken or just wrong?

As a rule, autistic kids are not violent. But how they experience life is very frequently assaulting to them and they are drugged and expected to conform to an assaulting society instead of the society bending and flexing from the rigid 'norms' to accomodate and bring them into the fold. And why? BECAUSE THEY ARE A THREAT TO THE MIND CONTROLLING NATURE OF THIS WORLD TO BRING EVERYONE INTO ASSIMILATION!!!!!
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I think it's a bit absurd that a ten year old can be formally charged with assault, austistic or not.

Removal from the school would make the most sense - sounds like the principal is an idiot.
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That's right... let's lock up all the autistic kids away from the rest of society so the other kids need not be subjected to their violent behaviors? This was exactly what I was talking about earlier...
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Still not getting it I see...

Try this: Special people do not have the right to abuse others just because they're special. And if they are so special this is impossible for them to live by, they will have to be removed from the rest of society.

How about this... how about as a race of humans we realize that we are not robots or zombies or sheep to all be and act the same way and make allowance and understanding for all? How about we teach our kids who are not 'special needs' to consider and make room for kids who are different and unique? How about we teach our 'normal' kids that different does not mean damaged or broken or just wrong?
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Yeah right. So you actually expect the parents to normal children to say:

"Yes, my son, I understand this other boy kicks you and spits on you, and disturbs order in the classroom so that no-one can get any work done, and that he drove the old teacher you loved to quit the job in frustration over her impossible workload. But you have to realize there is nothing wrong with this boy, he is just DIFFERENT! You must learn to understand and allow this! The next time he spits on you, remember this doesn't mean he's "damaged" or "broken" somehow! There is nothing wrong with him, it is YOU who need to learn to accept other people as they are! Now stop crying, and off to school with you!"

What an insane dream world you live in!

As a rule, autistic kids are not violent. But how they experience life is very frequently assaulting to them and they are drugged and expected to conform to an assaulting society instead of the society bending and flexing from the rigid 'norms' to accomodate and bring them into the fold. And why? BECAUSE THEY ARE A THREAT TO THE MIND CONTROLLING NATURE OF THIS WORLD TO BRING EVERYONE INTO ASSIMILATION!!!!!
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Yes, it is necessary to ACCOMODATE these children, and the only way to do this is to put them in a special class, where they have the time and resources to do it, and where the expectations of performance can be put on a suitably low level.

Why were you against this again?
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Dont they have schools for the handicapped in your area? My son went 10 yeas to a school for the handicapped now he is 42 and goes to an Adult day center for the handicapped. I would worry to much sending them to a regular school even if they had classrooms for them, they still would have to be around so call normal kids making fun of them, they have feeling too.
 Quoting: Monster 1131292



NO special schools in my area.


I worry constantly when I send him to school.
They are so incompetent!
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Look into sensory integration therapy for your autistic son and help him while you can. In the meantime keep working on getting him out of school. Talk to the judge and tell him your circumstances and concerns. The divorce alone is going to be difficult for your son.

Yes these kids are being targeted deliberately. Hopefully you won't have to find out why the hard way DA but no one is really immune... not even COINTELPRO agents dear.
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Steadily working on getting him out of school.

The divorce will be the greatest thing that could happen. I want my kids and I away from my husband.
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The asshole that I married and still trying to divorce decided to put all my kids in school.


Sounds like a smart guy.
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A fukin genius! A legend in his own mind.
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Anyone have any personal experiences to share?


My autistic nephew is over 21 and occasionally "goes off" in public places, supermarkets, etc. and kicks people who have nothing to do with whoever was with him and triggered the upset (he has 24/7 supervision). He has been charged with assault (justifiedly so, I believe...) at least 3 times and my sister's attorney always gets him off on grounds that he is disabled and the behavior is part of his disability.

I doubt that you can accomplish anything like that outside of school without a lawyer, but there should be some kind of advocate within the school system who could prevent assault charges within a school by reminding administrators of the law.
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Apparently the law doesn't care if the person is handicapped or has a mental disorder.
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Anyone have any personal experiences to share?
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yes, i work at a special needs school. the autistic kids are always hitting or kicking even tries to strangle teachers....

its part of the job.


this happens when the child is not being understood or can find no other way to
express/pain/needs/frustration.

take your child into a private school for autistic children, they have more understanding there.
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What's sad is that many school districts don't/can't afford (?) to train their teachers on how to deal with children with Autism. My son has been in a regular classroom the last two years- last year with an aide, this year without. While the primary teachers have been very understanding, I do not believe that the teachers who teach gym and art and other "special" classes, are understanding at all. They do not know how to handle these kids, I think partly because there has never been a reason to train them. They also see kids like these maybe once a week, for an hour at most. So when the child exhibits behavior they're not used to, they assume the kid is acting out on purpose, and so they treat them like they would any other student. A better understand of child with Autism's needs - be it sensory, behavioral, social - is necessary. It should be a requirement that all teachers go through some kind of seminar or something. I have heard from therapists that working with these teachers can be a nightmare, because many have never heard of Sensory Processing, much less believe it's an actual diagnosis of a serious problem. My son has gotten in trouble twice this year for things which in my belief, were not really in his control. It's ridiculous. He's only 7, though. Puberty has not come into play yet, and I really don't look forward to when it does.
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Public schools are NOT equipped to handle kids like this and in fact it's the WORST place you could put them. Everything that triggers them is there.
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Just a theory:

Autism is not a disorder but more of a genetic mutation that has arisen from centuries of humans being bloodlined and genetically tampered with in order to be mind controlled. Autistics are resistant to it. I am not just talking about full blown autistics, I am talking about the full spectrum. So other means must be implemented to control them. Sometimes they are tortured, of course more often they are refered to psych agencies that isolate and pigeonhole them away from mainstream (mind controlled) society. In the case of this thread they are being labled as violent and crazy and treated as criminals for reacting to the insanity around them that is a slave existence. Autistics see this very clearly because of the resistance to programming. Many higher functioning autistics get hearded into the new age movement to be programmed and controlled as indigo or crystal children.

Interesting the OP's kid is an autistic. Explains alot.
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I know all about it but people think you're nuts if you say things like this.
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Normal children have SPECIAL NEEDS too, like the need to be protected from violence. Hard as it may be for you to understand, other people do not want THEIR children to be beaten, kicked and spat on on a daily basis during their entire school life, just because their children had the bad luck to get stuck in the same class as your "special" son.

You and your ex should move him to a special school properly equipped to take care of him. Non-special schools are for non-special children, AKA children that can function reasonably normally in a group.

Your son can't do this! He's AUTISTIC for crying out loud! He CAN NOT function in a big group, period! WTF is he doing in a normal school class?!! The only thing that will happen, is that he will ruin the classroom situation completely for everyone.

As an autist, he needs a very controlled and calm environment, where his many convoluted personal routines are undisturbed, and where the teachers have lots of time to spend one-on-one with him. This is NOT the case in a normal school class, so STFU about the teachers not taking proper care of him, or not having the proper "training"! A class teacher CAN'T spend 80 % of the time making sure your son isn't running amok, they have 25 other kids to care for as well! Have you even thought about that?

When people charge these kids with assault, it's simply a desperate attempt to get them out of the way, so the OTHER 25 kids in the class won't have to live in a constant nightmare.

Put him in a suitable school form yourself BEFORE all the other parents have had enough and call on the government to intervene.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884



No shit Sherlock!

I don't want him in school at all!!

I don't subject other people to my son, my husband did that.
The Co-Op said he needed to be put in school. And the public school is OBLIGATED to accomodate him. That means if they are not equipped or staffed to handle a child like him then they MUST hire additional staff, etc. They wanted him there, they got him. So what's their answer? If they can't control him, they charge him with assault.

They are the so called experts yet they cannot admit that an autistic child cannot be controlled like a "normal" kid.

The stupid is rampant in society! And people think I'm weird because I don't want to be a part of it.
Free your mind and the rest will follow.

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Normal children have SPECIAL NEEDS too, like the need to be protected from violence. Hard as it may be for you to understand, other people do not want THEIR children to be beaten, kicked and spat on on a daily basis during their entire school life, just because their children had the bad luck to get stuck in the same class as your "special" son.

You and your ex should move him to a special school properly equipped to take care of him. Non-special schools are for non-special children, AKA children that can function reasonably normally in a group.

Your son can't do this! He's AUTISTIC for crying out loud! He CAN NOT function in a big group, period! WTF is he doing in a normal school class?!! The only thing that will happen, is that he will ruin the classroom situation completely for everyone.

As an autist, he needs a very controlled and calm environment, where his many convoluted personal routines are undisturbed, and where the teachers have lots of time to spend one-on-one with him. This is NOT the case in a normal school class, so STFU about the teachers not taking proper care of him, or not having the proper "training"! A class teacher CAN'T spend 80 % of the time making sure your son isn't running amok, they have 25 other kids to care for as well! Have you even thought about that?

When people charge these kids with assault, it's simply a desperate attempt to get them out of the way, so the OTHER 25 kids in the class won't have to live in a constant nightmare.

Put him in a suitable school form yourself BEFORE all the other parents have had enough and call on the government to intervene.



That's right... let's lock up all the autistic kids away from the rest of society so the other kids need not be subjected to their violent behaviors? This was exactly what I was talking about earlier...

How about this... how about as a race of humans we realize that we are not robots or zombies or sheep to all be and act the same way and make allowance and understanding for all? How about we teach our kids who are not 'special needs' to consider and make room for kids who are different and unique? How about we teach our 'normal' kids that different does not mean damaged or broken or just wrong?

As a rule, autistic kids are not violent. But how they experience life is very frequently assaulting to them and they are drugged and expected to conform to an assaulting society instead of the society bending and flexing from the rigid 'norms' to accomodate and bring them into the fold. And why? BECAUSE THEY ARE A THREAT TO THE MIND CONTROLLING NATURE OF THIS WORLD TO BRING EVERYONE INTO ASSIMILATION!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 974357



clappa
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Try this: Special people do not have the right to abuse others just because they're special. And if they are so special this is impossible for them to live by, they will have to be removed from the rest of society.

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I have an autistic son and I agree. We have already removed him from school once because we saw him repeatedly bully a smaller child and the teaching staff would just let it take place. If our child is a danger to another's well-being it is our responsibility to stop it.

Unfortunately, there is not enough support for these children. An education in my country is a human right, yet they don't seem to want to educate autistic children in my part of the world. Please remove him from the rest of society to a special group! The ABA playgroup we took him to at our own expense was only 2 hours a week but it was much better for him. Believe me, no one, except those with an autistic child (and I'm not talking about that aspergers shit), knows what an ordeal it is to have one. Yet that doesn't give us the right to be insensitive to the needs of others.

PS: We also found our child's behaviour did worsen when he began to attend school.
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Re: Schools charging AUTISTIC & SPECIAL NEEDS children with ASSAULT!! ????? WTF is wrong with society?
That's right... let's lock up all the autistic kids away from the rest of society so the other kids need not be subjected to their violent behaviors? This was exactly what I was talking about earlier...


Still not getting it I see...

Try this: Special people do not have the right to abuse others just because they're special. And if they are so special this is impossible for them to live by, they will have to be removed from the rest of society.


How about this... how about as a race of humans we realize that we are not robots or zombies or sheep to all be and act the same way and make allowance and understanding for all? How about we teach our kids who are not 'special needs' to consider and make room for kids who are different and unique? How about we teach our 'normal' kids that different does not mean damaged or broken or just wrong?


Yeah right. So you actually expect the parents to normal children to say:

"Yes, my son, I understand this other boy kicks you and spits on you, and disturbs order in the classroom so that no-one can get any work done, and that he drove the old teacher you loved to quit the job in frustration over her impossible workload. But you have to realize there is nothing wrong with this boy, he is just DIFFERENT! You must learn to understand and allow this! The next time he spits on you, remember this doesn't mean he's "damaged" or "broken" somehow! There is nothing wrong with him, it is YOU who need to learn to accept other people as they are! Now stop crying, and off to school with you!"

What an insane dream world you live in!


As a rule, autistic kids are not violent. But how they experience life is very frequently assaulting to them and they are drugged and expected to conform to an assaulting society instead of the society bending and flexing from the rigid 'norms' to accomodate and bring them into the fold. And why? BECAUSE THEY ARE A THREAT TO THE MIND CONTROLLING NATURE OF THIS WORLD TO BRING EVERYONE INTO ASSIMILATION!!!!!


Yes, it is necessary to ACCOMODATE these children, and the only way to do this is to put them in a special class, where they have the time and resources to do it, and where the expectations of performance can be put on a suitably low level.

Why were you against this again?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884



He IS in a "special" class. But it's still in public school. There are other kids in the class but not a full classroom like the normal kids have. But YES if they want kids like this in public school then they are going to have to deal with ALL the consequences that come with them.
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12/04/2010 01:29 AM
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Try this: Special people do not have the right to abuse others just because they're special. And if they are so special this is impossible for them to live by, they will have to be removed from the rest of society.



I have an autistic son and I agree. We have already removed him from school once because we saw him repeatedly bully a smaller child and the teaching staff would just let it take place. If our child is a danger to another's well-being it is our responsibility to stop it.

Unfortunately, there is not enough support for these children. An education in my country is a human right, yet they don't seem to want to educate autistic children in my part of the world. Please remove him from the rest of society to a special group! The ABA playgroup we took him to at our own expense was only 2 hours a week but it was much better for him. Believe me, no one, except those with an autistic child (and I'm not talking about that aspergers shit), knows what an ordeal it is to have one. Yet that doesn't give us the right to be insensitive to the needs of others.

PS: We also found our child's behaviour did worsen when he began to attend school.
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My son's behavior has become sooooo much WORSE since he started school. He is much more angry and aggressive and it's making life at home a living hell!
Free your mind and the rest will follow.

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Re: Schools charging AUTISTIC & SPECIAL NEEDS children with ASSAULT!! ????? WTF is wrong with society?
The Illuminati Poison CHildren's Brains, then charge them with Assault, then send Mind Control Waves into GLP Posters so that the posters reply "Your son deserves it"

Reformatted:

Step 1) The Illuminati Poison Childrens Brains

Step 2) They then charge those children with assult

Step 3) They use Mind Control to cause GLP Posters to reply and say: "This is good, your son should have been charged, it was justified"

Step 4) Repeat, go back to step 1.
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I hope your son will be able to be safe with you where he belongs, Mom. hf
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Re: Schools charging AUTISTIC & SPECIAL NEEDS children with ASSAULT!! ????? WTF is wrong with society?
Just a theory:

Autism is not a disorder but more of a genetic mutation that has arisen from centuries of humans being bloodlined and genetically tampered with in order to be mind controlled. Autistics are resistant to it. I am not just talking about full blown autistics, I am talking about the full spectrum. So other means must be implemented to control them. Sometimes they are tortured, of course more often they are refered to psych agencies that isolate and pigeonhole them away from mainstream (mind controlled) society. In the case of this thread they are being labled as violent and crazy and treated as criminals for reacting to the insanity around them that is a slave existence. Autistics see this very clearly because of the resistance to programming. Many higher functioning autistics get hearded into the new age movement to be programmed and controlled as indigo or crystal children.

Interesting the OP's kid is an autistic. Explains alot.
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Well it's a bullshit theory. I have a normal son and an autistic son. "Many higher functioning autistics..." is the key for your crazyness. You get that from the aspergers lot who are as like to your average autistic as chalk from cheese. The aspergers like to think of themselves as a cut above because they are high functioning psychotics. The one thing most autistics suffer from is a lack of human empathy. You could consider that bad, and the basic human condition is to be without empathy, compassion etc, or you could consider it something abhorrant, that humans should have feelings for others, that you should be able to feel another's pain.

My child will gouge a hole out of his brother's face and laugh about it. I'm sure he is just reacting to the insanity around him. Meanwhile, my other son likes to share, and read, do the alphabet and counting, kiss and hug, you know, living the normal slave's existence.

Don't fall for the psychos lies.
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My son's behavior has become sooooo much WORSE since he started school. He is much more angry and aggressive and it's making life at home a living hell!
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I don't know what to say. I know the reality. I just try to get through one day at a time and treasure any quiet time with my sons as an unexpected gift.





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