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Oh noes!! Gravity is easing it's pull!!!

 
Smilin' Irish Eyes  (OP)

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So let me get this straight...

Basically, Earth is full of Energy, and not some kind of black hole (opposite of positive energy), and since SPACE is a void, it pushed itself onto Earth's atmosphere, thus creating "Gravity", as defined by all the researchers of our time?

Maybe someone would understand that paraphrasing of the really complicated versions of the definition!

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But space is not void and black holes are not devoid of energy. That's the whole premise, energy is everywhere, even in the "supposed vacuum" of space. That is why this is intriguing me.
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It is the "magnetic" nature of gravity which is partial to the explanation of the perception of its "easing pull." Also, strangely enough, a quantum reasoning for the concept of "astrology." As this star system, Sol, orbits the galactic center, it experiences different frequencies of existential vibration. Different "magnetic pulls and energetic pushes" from the center of the galaxy if you will.

It perhaps might be easier to think of it as walking around an omnidirectional radio antenna and recording the different frequency variances you encounter as you walk all the way around it and running the frequency counter up and down along the entire length of the antenna.

The Astrology mythology came from the initial observations of the "clockwork" like nature of the movement of the observable universe and the psychoemotional patterns observed over time correlated to those observable movements. Rough "science" at best, but an important step in the right direction....

...Hence, using current relational equations, gravity will seem to be lessening. Add that to the numerous other observed shifts in existence.
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I am finding the more and more I research, everything does tie together.

I started my quested with Xenus' Petroglyph thread; there are several threads by Sickscent and many people contributed to another thread about Cultural Amnesia. Many of the posts in the Cultural Amnesia thread relate to "astrology" and myths.

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[link to www.nature.com]

David Toms, a theoretical physicist at Newcastle University, UK, has found that gravity seems to calm the electromagnetic force at high energies. The finding could make some calculations easier, and is a rare case in which gravity seems to work in harmony with quantum mechanics, the theory of small particles. His paper is published today in Nature1.

But don't get too excited: that elusive theory of everything is not just around the corner. Not everyone thinks that the calculations will stand up to scrutiny. Given physicists' "dicey" understanding of the relationship between gravity and other forces, it is too early to draw any deep conclusions, says Stanley Deser, a theoretical physicist at Brandeis University in Waltham, Massachusetts. Follow-up studies are needed to put Toms's calculations on solid ground. ....

....There are signs that an even more fundamental theory may be out there. At high energies, electromagnetism and the weak force merge into a single 'electroweak' force; and, at even higher energies, some as yet untested theories known as supersymmetry combine the electroweak and strong nuclear force. Theorists hope that the world's most powerful particle accelerator, the Large Hadron Collider near Geneva, Switzerland, will provide evidence for this combined strong and electroweak force.

But gravity remains a stubborn holdout against efforts to create a theory of everything. The force is too weak at low energies to fit with the others, and it becomes too strong at high energies to be included in a single theory.
 Quoting: Smilin' Irish Eyes





Bullshit Bullshit Bullshit bsflag bsflag bsflag

How the hell did unify gravity and electromagnetism without a quantum general relatvity theory? This seems to me another theory "a la Kaluza-Klein" with extra dimensions and other shit. Seriously guys, there are only two types of approaches (perturbative and non-perturbative ones) to quantum gravity, and if he did use classical general relativity, then it is even more Bullshit.


Ah, and just because the weak and electromagnetic forces merge at high energies, doesn't mean gravity would too. The other forces are quantum fiels descriptions, general relativity not.
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Gravity doesn't pull. Misunderstood completely. Just because the apple falls, doesn't mean it's a pull. Man will continue to screw up until he learns it's a PUSH. Of cold hard space on the planet.
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There is no newtonian gravitational force in the sense you are saying here. The apple just follows it's trajectory there is nothing pushing or pulling it.
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Was thinking about this last night.

Since Newton's gravitational attraction is inversely proportional to the distance between the 2 objects, and we cannot tell how fast we are moving relative to the space around us, how can we prove gravity is a function of mass ?

Have there ever been any experiments measuring gravitational attraction between accelerating bodies of different masses ?

How the hell would you pull that off ?
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You are stuck in the 18th century grow up. jerkit
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gravity is a dogma, time to move on
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There's no such thing as "dark matter".

It was invented by theoretical mathematicians to patch up the almost collapsed "Standard Model".
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Einstein's general relativiy equation can handle a cosmological constant term.


Observations show the Universe expansion is accelerating.


Well..... 5a
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Was thinking about this last night.

Since Newton's gravitational attraction is inversely proportional to the distance between the 2 objects, and we cannot tell how fast we are moving relative to the space around us, how can we prove gravity is a function of mass ?

Have there ever been any experiments measuring gravitational attraction between accelerating bodies of different masses ?

How the hell would you pull that off ?




You are stuck in the 18th century grow up. jerkit
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Thanks assplug. Newton did not assume variable density of objects, and Newton's laws alone do not explain gravity, otherwise it would be identical as a constant around the entire planet.
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Wouldnt worry bout it, there is NO WAY anyTHING could survive if gravity takes a dump.
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Once Einstein made the discovery that mass is a function of light {e=MC2, M=c-square root symbol-1(1/C) where c = variable speed of light and C = Maximum Solar Constant of 186,400 miles per second} it was only a small step to the greater understanding that gravity is a force of "magnetism."

I really wish I could do a square root symbol on GLP. √ (Alt+251)just doesn't work here.
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omg what the hell am I reading here? lmao

Mass, a function of light? Dude that equation just shows that mass has an amount of energy even if it's still. If you want you can put c=1 and it simply gives E=M.

And gravity is not a force of "magnetism" (?) because magnetism is just a macroscopic effect of a quantum field electroweak theory, or even a larger grand unification theory. String theory tries to put all interactions and particles coming from the same objects (strings) that is the major candidate to unify everything.
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I often wonder what it would be like if we could use mind over matter and tell ourselves that we are lighter than a feather, so that we could float along with the wind. Wouldn't that be cool if we could just float and flutter to any place, without ever having to touch the ground.
No need for airplanes, cars, trucks, buses, or trains. No more need for oil wars. Of course someone would need to invent a helmet with a bug shield, so that we could see where the heck we were going. LOL
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You are stuck in the 18th century grow up. jerkit


Thanks assplug. Newton did not assume variable density of objects, and Newton's laws alone do not explain gravity, otherwise it would be identical as a constant around the entire planet.
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Of course Newton's laws don't explain gravity. If today classical general relativity is already old fashioned, what to say about something coming from the 18th century?

cruise


Gravity acceleration can't be the same around the planet.Our world is not round. Some places have gravitational anomalies (mass is not perfectly distributed) and don't forget about the inertia of rotation. The only place where your weight is equal to the gravitational force in on the poles, where the planet doesn't spin.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Maybe I'll finally hit #110.
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Nice post OP, ty
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I often wonder what it would be like if we could use mind over matter and tell ourselves that we are lighter than a feather, so that we could float along with the wind. Wouldn't that be cool if we could just float and flutter to any place, without ever having to touch the ground.
No need for airplanes, cars, trucks, buses, or trains. No more need for oil wars. Of course someone would need to invent a helmet with a bug shield, so that we could see where the heck we were going. LOL

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I don't know if you have ever seen the movie, "The Last Mimzy" but the closing scene shows everyone floating/flying off.

Here is an another interesting scene



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[link to www.zetatalk.com]

There is info at end of article about moon tilt.
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[link to www.zetatalk.com]

There is info at end of article about moon tilt.
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:umhuhiwated:

I don't have to do anything to my dog if I click that do I?


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In seeking wisdom thou art wise; in imagining that thou hast attained it - thou art a fool. -- Lord Chesterfield
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Yeah because anyone who owns the domain "Nature.com" is really going to be publishing factual information.

bsflag

Gravity doesn't exist.

Go jump out of a 25 storey building, you'll probably survive just fine.

I've known people who have jumped off bridges and still lived to tell about it.

Which reminds me of a funny conversation I had with a Psychiatric Nurse.

She got fed up with me because I said something like... "Talk about yourself Ruth, you're on more Psychiatric meds than me."

And then she snapped back at me...

"Why the hell are you even in the Richmond Psychiatric ward anyways? There's plenty of bridges in Vancouver, Nirzar."

How unprofessional is that!

I asked her boss to fire her, i'm chill with her, but she told me it's a futile effort because of their Union.

hahaha.
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drevil

Very Clever _ Which 25 storey building should I jump out of oh wise man?
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that pinguin one is also funny.
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Last post for me for tonight.




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gravity

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Wow, great site.

A small snippet from above site:


New mathematic 'golden' proof: - How Golden Ratio (Phase Conjugate / Fractality) Causes Gravity
GOLDEN RATIO radii of HYDROGEN - actually are a PERFECT MULTIPLE of GOLDEN RATIO times the PLANCK LENGTH. There could be no other explanation than it is this GOLDEN RATIO - that holds these waves of charge together! (ultimate global scaling)
- Producing the electrical centripedal force - called GRAVITY!
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You are stuck in the 18th century grow up. jerkit
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[link to goodfelloweb.com]

How does the Sun shine? The Victorians believed the Sun was a burning ball of coal.
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Cool! Great to see my 1979 paper still pops up on the net. I created a short, updated YouTube video that you might find interesting:

An Empty Sun - Is Gravity being Induced?
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Another name might have been, "Nothing - and its Implications" :-)

Best,

Stephen Goodfellow
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[link to goodfelloweb.com]

How does the Sun shine? The Victorians believed the Sun was a burning ball of coal.
Cool! Great to see my 1979 paper still pops up on the net. I created a short, updated YouTube video that you might find interesting:

An Empty Sun - Is Gravity being Induced?
[link to www.youtube.com]

Another name might have been, "Nothing - and its Implications" :-)

Best,

Stephen Goodfellow
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Thanks Stephen, please feel free to expound on your theories. I would love to have your input. hiyadude

I embedded your video below


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Thanks Stephen, please feel free to expound on your theories. I would love to have your input. :hiyadude:

I embedded your video below


 Quoting: Smilin' Irish Eyes


Hi Smilin' Irish Eyes, by the way - love your Lord Chesterfield quote.

Is it not funny - discussing Nothing can entail so many words? The simplest description of my thoughts on Nothing might be to expand on the studio description in the above video.
If one were able to vacate everything out of a given volume (by some process of force that we won't go into right here) what would it result in? Not a space with nothing in it, but a volume with no space in it.
The phenomenon is only observable due to the space surrounding the volume. The 'inside' can only be described by the exterior behavior of space/time/matter. (Let's just call the exterior 'space'). The non-space interior could be termed a reverse singularity, in that it is akin to a black hole in that space is gravitationally attracted to it, but its existence consists of the opposite of a black hole - it is nothing rather than a concentration of matter.
Providing the non-space boundary is maintained, exterior space will gravitationally implode upon it, so we might assume that the boundary gets very, very hot.
- A fairly good description of a sun?

Best,

Stephen





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