Are the Illuminati bad?

yes

Well acording to some they make you gay

I don't know....maybe if they contacted me I could find out though.

Good question. I don't know. Maybe the end does justify the means.

If you want some clues, have a long talk with Al Murredin. He's quite an interesting (and charming) chap.

gay and bad

I'm beginning to think that the Illuminati are the people/symbols that make those who see them aware of whats actually going on in the REAL world.

As for who the "bad guys" are, I don't think theyd be stupid enough to make themselves publically/politically known and become a target for anyone wanting to claim the throne for themselves.

No,they are kewl!!

Says Fabian. Of the Society.

Cause they are well organized, well funded, and all together on the same mission:

To slowly, but successfully control the world through financial, judicial, environmental, technological, bioligical, psychological means.

End game is they have everything, and you work for them in some capacity as slaves.


Glad you are trying to find answers. I wish you the best of luck in your search.

I'm all for: 1 world government.

1 world currency.

Every earth citizen having EQUAL RIGHTS.

Every earth citizen having SHELTER, FOOD, WATER AND EDUCATION.


THIS IS WHAT NWO IS ABOUT.

they thought they were..

They are atheists.

Yeah. I don't like the idea of them trying to suppress my religion.

All the equality stuff sounds good though I have to admit.

Yeah, you'll love living in squaller eating genetically modified foods, getting monthly mercury shots, and only living to 55 if you're lucky. I can't wait for that either!

Actually, they are satanists. The atheists are not the highest ones cause the reason TPTB do what they do is because they believe that their god satan promised them and their offspring ONLY, the Earth.

err, no.

This is what is already happening today (you fool).

It is in TPTB's interest to have a HEALTHY, FUNCTIONING AND CONTRIBUTING WORLD POPULATION.

peace.

That depends on your definition of the word 'bad'.
If you believe killing 5 1/2 billion people who's only crime was being unfortunate enough to be born with the 'wrong' genetics is bad then they are bad.
I'm all for reducing the population, so long as we start in the right place, with the 'elite'.

How smart!!

I don't know if you are that lost, that brainwashed, or a shill, but you have a lot of education in front of you once you take that red pill.

I'll ask 2 questions for you under your 'beautiful NWO':

1) Who's going to elect the leaders?
--(do you REALLY think that the entire world is going to elect the BEST person for the job? If so, don't be naiive, if not, what happens WHEN someone gets in who doesn't like you or your people for whatever reason)

2) What are you going to do when those benelovent leaders do as ALL (ALL) ALL leaders eventually do... turn and steal and rob from their people.... but in this case, they'll rob from a small group (say 100 Million) at a time (the program they do today with banks), thus you have to struggle against the other 7 Billion to get your fair share/stolen stuff back.... impossible, no?

This would be alright if it was a free society. Most likely it wouldn't and you would a slave.

"The Illuminati" is a sticky word to define. I believe that is why we started using TPTB, or TPTWTB. Whatever.

Strictly/conspiratorially speaking "the Illuminati" would refer to some descending of the Bavarian Illuminati.

Generally speaking Illuminati = enlightened.

In general I would say not bad. Most people say bad because what the know is occulted, hidden. One reason things are occulted is to prevent someone who is not initiated from gaining certain knowledge. The saying "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" applies. You dont want walmart/CC'spizza trough feeders knowing just a little. They are too stupid to understand.

The second reason knowledge is occulted is to protect it. Language, attitudes, & ideas change over time. ELE's can wipe out civilizations. Code, symbolics, anti-types, and whatnot are as forever as the human subconscious.

The Illumin, the Enlightened protect knowledge by occulting.

Those against them are the trough feeders who hate the idea of something not being dumped in their trough.

It sounds like they began as a benign society and like any other institution it got corrupted with time. Name any institution (like any christian church) and it is most likely corrupted.
The only thing we can prevent from corruption is Ourselves.

I'll ask 2 questions for you under your 'beautiful NWO':

1) Who's going to elect the leaders?
--(do you REALLY think that the entire world is going to elect the BEST person for the job? If so, don't be naiive, if not, what happens WHEN someone gets in who doesn't like you or your people for whatever reason)

Answer: There will be a world president, believe it. Think of the way the U.N (which IS a force for GOOD) elect it's leader.

2) What are you going to do when those benelovent leaders do as ALL (ALL) ALL leaders eventually do... turn and steal and rob from their people.... but in this case, they'll rob from a small group (say 100 Million) at a time (the program they do today with banks), thus you have to struggle against the other 7 Billion to get your fair share/stolen stuff back.... impossible, no?

Answer: There will be a major re-structuring of the worlds financial systems, a completely cashless society.
Right now, tptb's and the families and groups with TRILLIONS of dollars at their disposal could finance and fix the entire worlds problems.
This wouldn't even be a drop in the bucket to those who have oceans of money.

EQUAL RIGHTS, FOOD, WATER AND ADEQUATE SHELTER FOR ALL, SOON.

In a free society, information and plans are not hidden in back rooms, kept in coded messages, and written in secret texts. Those things are available to the People!

You wanna talk "enlightened", try bringing them out in the open and we'll see how "enlightened" their plans really are.

The only societies that rule in back-rooms, and in secret, are ones that either
1) Keep more wealth than they should, not sharing with the People
2) Only give enough information to the People so that the People never know truth
3) Have plans for wiping out certain parts of the populous due to political/financial reason.


Truly "enlightened" bask in light, not hide from it.

Wow. You actually think that people with Trillions of dollars and virtual control of the world are going to WILLINGLY give up the majority of their wealth for US????

***Naiive***

Unless you are talking about something else, cause TPTB have the oceans of money.... governments only have oceans of debts.

Either way, there are technologies that have been around for decades that haven't been made public because TPTB don't want it to be available... because they own the businesses that would go bankrupt!

Maybe it's the economic side that you don't seem to grasp??

AH HA! what do you think The NEW world order is? you're talking about the OLD world order! The OLD world is trying to keep that technology you're speaking about under wraps. Get ready for a flood of tech enabling food and water for all.

theyr actuall reall nice ppl once u get to know them

george bernard shaw wanted scientists to come up with a gas that would kill the peasants painlessly, humanely

a couple of years later the nazi scientists started using
zyklon b
.

That's why the NWO will be such a WORLD success!

will be????