Nibiru trajectory, located, drawn but need help from astronomers

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Check out some of the alternate scenarios,....

Thanks , it will be useful to simulate accelaration of the body, kepler elements cannot be sufficient for this job.

That is an impressive application, I've enjoyed it.
One of the better fully customizable apps around. Careful when saving and it being on the normal config files.

This particular object is attacted and repulsed by Earth on Daily basses.

The Friends of Monalisa, on Earth got more info here:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Welcome Back Retiredafb!

This thread could get interesting.

One can only hope....

~Zeus

Yeah...and you're full of crap.

First, there is no "andromeda orion". If you're talking about the two constellations, they are in totally different areas of the sky.

Secondly, if you say you have the Keplarian elements, but not the periodicity, that makes absolutley no sense at all. You obviously haven't the faintest clue about which you are speaking.

Retiredafb you don´t need to see the sky, is right there by the side of the sun

You've taken on a known moniker.
Hope you're worthy of it.

The person shooting this footage had a PERFECT opportunity to show that the object above the Sun was real and not a lens flare/reflection. Just wait 5 minutes until the Sun went below the horizon -- if the object is real, it will remain, if it is a flare it will disappear as soon as the Sun disappears. The fact that the person shooting the footage cut the filming before sunset obviously implied the latter happened.....

I m posting a short version of my investigation on nibiru path.
you can jump directly to the end of the post if you dont want to hear about sumerians.
as far as i know and contrary to other popular writings, i have not found a sumerian description speaking of a 3600 years period, but a beautiful description of a celestial body crossing eart.

the k 8538 tablet has 8 sectors, some are damaged but the indications are sufficient to have basic datas for a trajectory. the indications speak of the visible path of a celestial body ( "mul")which crosses some constellations, these constellations were hardly identifie, or werent .Sumerian specialists are not astronomers. in 1912, k 8538 was alleged to be a planisphere or the depiction of the moon path.
On this tablet, we have a description of the celesctial body path as it was visible by clear nights centuries ago.

The first constellation visible is orion, and the text says " faithfull shepherd" which is the old name of orion. Later, the text says " the young twins hosts the one who is not shy".
The co nstellation of young twins is our canis minor ( sumerians had two geminis). The celestial body appears to the human eyes in canis minor, the text says that this " star" is visible by clear sky, this means that it has a lower value the m42, lowewr magnitude.
The elliptic path has for consequence that nibiru does not seem to move from this constellation at the beginning. On the following sector, the tablet tale that the celestial body crosses the pleiades, "ambassador of the milky way" " the one who divide the starry dust"
In the next secor, badly damaged , we can read " udu sub ti" the sheep cast justice, a mention of the sheep constellation ( which of nibiru was sooner called the hired man) . This could be enough to get the path, but ther next sector shows us exactly where all humans will see the "celestial
body come near earth. The Pisces constellation show this body " pour light" before invading the main part of the sky, low at the horizon. Later on this tablet, andromeda is mentionned by the depiction of m31, crossed by the celestial body going home.


the trajectory is now obvious and it is easy where to look at. The celestial body is visible by clear sumerian nights in canis minor, this mean a magnitude of
10-14 when it becomes visible. Many recent discoveries of bright comets like hale bopp and hyakutake have been made by amateurs, where robots were unable to find them via automated systems.
If december 2012 is the important month, nibiru should be in a zone going from canis minor to pisces, crossing aries, pleiades and orion.

Sorry but i cannoyt spend hours trying to post pictures, this site does not seem to accept imagevenue links, i have to check other solutions


About some answers made recently;
i don t believe a single seconds that soho, or sun obervations could be usefull to detect nibiru.
Flare lens, "orbs", why use illusions, why use bad elements to answer serious questions?

Those videos about google sky nibiru detec tions are useless. I have spent too much time on debunking the jcattera videos of psi epsilon 2 aurigae.

If we have to listen to sumerian writings, we must listen to them through this tablet which is the only writing and sky chart of a body which looks like nibiru.
there is a lot to say about this tablet. My work has been helped by a german study ( google ; neue untersuchugen basbylonischen fixsternhimmels 1989 ).
About my identity, i am who i am and the moderator can give you my ip adress which begins by 196, i am posting in a kigali internet coffee located in the first floor of the nakumatt buiding in kigali.
Un fortunately, posting pictures here with a speed of 2k/second is a painfull adventure ( and i am not speaking of the kirundi keyboard). One of these days, i will find a way of posting big videos again, but in this country, no matter how much you pay, some thisngs are not avaiable.

Last Edited by retiredafb on 01/02/2011 04:51 PM

Are you WR, the same retiredafb of YT channel????

You think that Nibiru is a cluster around a brown dwarf??? And that G1.9 could be this brown dwarf??? The pictures of Chandra Observatory are quite similar to the ancient draws of the winged disk...

First off, the correct designation is G1.9+0.3 and it isn't a brown dwarf. It was identified in 1984 as a supernova remnant at a maximum distance 30,000 parsecs from the Sun.

Green, D. A.; Gull, S. F., Two new young galactic supernova remnants, Nature, vol. 312, Dec. 6, 1984, p. 527-529

A reanalysis in 2008 showed the distance to be 25,000 light-years.

[link to chandra.harvard.edu]
Stephen P. Reynolds et al. The Astrophysical Journal, 680: L41–L44, 2008, THE YOUNGEST GALACTIC SUPERNOVA REMNANT: G1.9+0.3

Are those freshwater or sea bass?

Please stop posting false alarms about chandra sun flares or google sky pictures. This post is interresting in the way it tells where to watch but when will it be visible ?

This is the picture of Nibiru trajectory, i hope the link if ok. Nibiru cannot be visible today. If it has a standart speed (300 000 km/h) it is 5184 millions kilometers away, 7 times the jupiter distance. magnitude should be 20, and it should be visible 4 month before perihelion, should appear in orion, but should be visible at magnitude 14 with telescope in a couple of months between canis minor and orion.


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Last Edited by retiredafb on 01/11/2011 02:27 PM

7 times Jupiter's distance is the orbit of Pluto. Magnitude 14 is around the brightness of Pluto.

The SERC-J plates go to 23rd magntiude. The faintest objects observed are around magnitude 30.

Magnitude 14 and fainter is easily accesable by amateur telescopes.

What is the eccentricity of the orbit?

What is the semi-major axis?

How big is Nibiru?

one OT question: are you that retiredafb involved in apollo 20?

eccentricity is not known through k8538 but could be 0.9917 mean anomaly could be 235 and period 3600 but i found no sumerian element about the period radius should be 24000

** sorry mean anomaly is 235, semi major axis is related by an equation i do not use often- and yes i m the Apollo XX retiredafb*

Last Edited by retiredafb on 01/12/2011 03:45 PM

Those parameters give a perhelion distance of 2 AU and a perhelion date of 2030.

Last Edited by Commutator on 01/14/2011 05:46 PM

:NearMiss:

Wheres spaceman? He can help tell you about swampgas!

To cmttor epoch time is not specified on sumerian writings nor eccentricity so 2030 or 20!2 are pure speculations . shomaker levy 9 is known with one single keplerian element. i have provided the trajectory and where to watch. my simulations

This is interesting....



Also check out these coordinates...5h 53m 27s,-6 10' 56

The coordinates in the video are 6h 8m 55s +22d47m30s. It is an airplane strobe light. Go to

[link to stdatu.stsci.edu]

Input coordinates RA 6 8 55 Dec 22 47 30. Set Height and Width to 60 arcmin and format to GIF. Then click find plates. Then select the POSS-II Red plate data 1997-01-10 and click 'Extract Image from Selected Plate'. You can see multiple images of the wing tip light and the fuselage light. Planes fly in front of telescopes all the time

Last Edited by Commutator on 01/17/2011 09:30 AM

what about this(sorry is not in english):

[link to www.lanuovaumanita.net]

PS why didn't you put new infomation about the Monalisa?

retiredafb I'd like to have you on our italian forum
[link to forum.nexusedizioni.it]

we will be very happy to speak with you about Nibiru..
if you want you can sand me an e-mail: [email protected]

Maybe I can help you.