Calculating Magnetic 'Pole Shift' - DIY | |
Tsukiko
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Munchaab
(OP) User ID: 1118614 United Kingdom 12/29/2010 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not DOOM in and of itself... But if we see variations - even over time... DOOM on!? I want the use of ALL of my brain! "I hate the idea of yesterday being a replay of tomorrow!" . Because UK revolution matters too... The Love Police: [link to www.youtube.com] |
Munchaab
(OP) User ID: 1118614 United Kingdom 12/29/2010 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a waste of time Quoting: TsukikoDon't do it then. I guess you believe there would be no anomalies - if so a few worried people my be able to chill! If there are, then some may 'up' their preparations! For anyone interested or concerned I hope this will help! I want the use of ALL of my brain! "I hate the idea of yesterday being a replay of tomorrow!" . Because UK revolution matters too... The Love Police: [link to www.youtube.com] |
Munchaab
(OP) User ID: 1118614 United Kingdom 12/29/2010 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I want the use of ALL of my brain! "I hate the idea of yesterday being a replay of tomorrow!" . Because UK revolution matters too... The Love Police: [link to www.youtube.com] |
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Munchaab
(OP) User ID: 1118614 United Kingdom 12/29/2010 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, Polaris is 3/4 of a degree from the NCP, so it's only "true north" at two times each day. This is used by surveyors to calibrate true north. There are tables of these times available. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 991880True but I'm not expecting the average GLPer with a hand held compass to calculate anomalous declinations to within a few arc minutes - so 3/4 of a degree aught to be close enough. The true test will come over time with individuals taking repeated observations from their locations. I want the use of ALL of my brain! "I hate the idea of yesterday being a replay of tomorrow!" . Because UK revolution matters too... The Love Police: [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 991880 United States 12/29/2010 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, Polaris is 3/4 of a degree from the NCP, so it's only "true north" at two times each day. This is used by surveyors to calibrate true north. There are tables of these times available. Quoting: MunchaabTrue but I'm not expecting the average GLPer with a hand held compass to calculate anomalous declinations to within a few arc minutes - so 3/4 of a degree aught to be close enough. The true test will come over time with individuals taking repeated observations from their locations. You're claiming to be able to judge your compass to within one degree, so a 3/4 degree error in your establishment of true north is very significant. |
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Munchaab
(OP) User ID: 1118614 United Kingdom 12/29/2010 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And repeated measurements can show variation due to nearby power lines, passing vehicles, etc. Trying to measure a compass to one degree accuracy is very unreliable. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 991880So your method would be? I want the use of ALL of my brain! "I hate the idea of yesterday being a replay of tomorrow!" . Because UK revolution matters too... The Love Police: [link to www.youtube.com] |
Munchaab
(OP) User ID: 1118614 United Kingdom 12/29/2010 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But if several degrees are out - Interesting If following further tests over hours/days/weeks... The variation from 'supposed' declination increases - Very Interesting If the trend continues - Pole Shift?! We are in interesting times and a lot of our information comes from corrupt sources... What can it hurt to look for yourself? Last Edited by Munchaab on 12/29/2010 01:09 PM I want the use of ALL of my brain! "I hate the idea of yesterday being a replay of tomorrow!" . Because UK revolution matters too... The Love Police: [link to www.youtube.com] |
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Munchaab
(OP) User ID: 1118614 United Kingdom 12/29/2010 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I want the use of ALL of my brain! "I hate the idea of yesterday being a replay of tomorrow!" . Because UK revolution matters too... The Love Police: [link to www.youtube.com] |
Karu
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Munchaab
(OP) User ID: 1118614 United Kingdom 12/29/2010 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting! Quoting: KaruThanks - I hope you (and others) find it useful! Do you have a compass? Thinking of checking it out? I want the use of ALL of my brain! "I hate the idea of yesterday being a replay of tomorrow!" . Because UK revolution matters too... The Love Police: [link to www.youtube.com] |
Munchaab
(OP) User ID: 1118614 United Kingdom 12/29/2010 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They do not know if it will start slow and then 'flip' or what will happen... But it would be interesting to be one of those who monitor the shift - with this simple method! Especially as there is some speculation of severe quakes and/or crustal shift to follow! I want the use of ALL of my brain! "I hate the idea of yesterday being a replay of tomorrow!" . Because UK revolution matters too... The Love Police: [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 991880 United States 12/29/2010 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Magnetic pole reversals happen over long periods of time...well over that of a human lifetime. [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to www.pbs.org] [link to www.geomag.bgs.ac.uk] |
Munchaab
(OP) User ID: 1118614 United Kingdom 12/29/2010 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Magnetic pole reversals happen over long periods of time...well over that of a human lifetime. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 991880[link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to www.pbs.org] [link to www.geomag.bgs.ac.uk] Well duuh! Of course they do.. And... Neutrinos pass from the sun without effecting ANY matter... And... Constants such as Nuclear decay elements C-14 etc cannot change their decay rate... And... Ohh yeah "Times (and science) they are a changin'" The text books are being re-written + I used to be a lecturer - please do NOT quote evidence with a link from wikipedia! - or wrongipedia as I used to refer to it to my students! I am not 'flaming' on you by the way - you are looking for the truth too... But trust your judgement a little more and encyclopaedia written by "anyone" less! I want the use of ALL of my brain! "I hate the idea of yesterday being a replay of tomorrow!" . Because UK revolution matters too... The Love Police: [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 991880 United States 12/29/2010 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But trust your judgement a little more and encyclopaedia written by "anyone" less! Quoting: MunchaabIt sounds like you're proposing that there will be a fast reversal. Put it this way...has there ever been a magnetic reversal in all of written history? What does the evidence in the magnetic morain reversals in the geological record say was the length of the last few? "Judgement" is worthless unless you have some evidence to back it up. |
Munchaab
(OP) User ID: 1118614 United Kingdom 12/29/2010 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But trust your judgement a little more and encyclopaedia written by "anyone" less! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 991880It sounds like you're proposing that there will be a fast reversal. Put it this way...has there ever been a magnetic reversal in all of written history? What does the evidence in the magnetic morain reversals in the geological record say was the length of the last few? "Judgement" is worthless unless you have some evidence to back it up. I'm not proposing (in the thread) anything of the sort... It could be slow it could be quick - see what NASA etc have to say - I am not qualified to submit anything other than supposition! I suppose that WE may be able to watch this happen with a compass - that is all... I do not suppose it has started... I do not suppose it will not happen... I simply wanted to state how to watch it if it does occur! Has there been a magnetic reversal in history? - YES! Written history? - you are summing up 4.5 billion years to written history? There is plenty of evidence (geological) to show this has happened before! I want the use of ALL of my brain! "I hate the idea of yesterday being a replay of tomorrow!" . Because UK revolution matters too... The Love Police: [link to www.youtube.com] |
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Karu
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1086028 United States 01/05/2011 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not DOOM in and of itself... Quoting: MunchaabBut if we see variations - even over time... DOOM on!? Variations will be seen over time because there are variations in these measurements on a regular basis... Earth wobble... wandering poles... All quite normal... It's a 180 that we have to worry about. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1086028 United States 01/05/2011 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not DOOM in and of itself... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1086028But if we see variations - even over time... DOOM on!? Variations will be seen over time because there are variations in these measurements on a regular basis... Earth wobble... wandering poles... All quite normal... It's a 180 that we have to worry about. Of course, if the sun rises in the West and sets in the East, I don't think we'd need your experiment to figure out that something serious had happened. |
Munchaab
(OP) User ID: 1218687 United Kingdom 01/05/2011 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not DOOM in and of itself... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1086028But if we see variations - even over time... DOOM on!? Variations will be seen over time because there are variations in these measurements on a regular basis... Earth wobble... wandering poles... All quite normal... It's a 180 that we have to worry about. The scientists seem to think this is possible by the next solar max - 2012 - when we know the Sun's polarity will swap! I want the use of ALL of my brain! "I hate the idea of yesterday being a replay of tomorrow!" . Because UK revolution matters too... The Love Police: [link to www.youtube.com] |
Psemeni
User ID: 1175201 United States 01/05/2011 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hopefully by this weekend we might have one, if they're not too expensive, and I would be happy to monitor it from my position in CO, and then report back here. It's the kind of thing gogo would like to do also, I'm pretty sure. Lol, two Stellium Scorpios...we're bound to love an experiment regarding a cosmic mystery! Post 7/11/10-- "We just walked right through all the stones, all the bottles, and whatever they threw. We have won a major Victory." [link to www.youtube.com] |
Munchaab
(OP) User ID: 1218687 United Kingdom 01/05/2011 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We don't (as of yet) have a compass in the house, but last night we wanted to see what all the hullabulloo was about with the wild compass readings, and so my roomie (GLP member gogousurper) made a homemade compass. Magnetic north did appear to be off. Quoting: PsemeniHopefully by this weekend we might have one, if they're not too expensive, and I would be happy to monitor it from my position in CO, and then report back here. It's the kind of thing gogo would like to do also, I'm pretty sure. Lol, two Stellium Scorpios...we're bound to love an experiment regarding a cosmic mystery! I'm not sure about the Scorpio reference - I'm Aquarian and all I know about that is my Mum always saying (Dad too was Aquarius) "never tell an Aquarian what they already know" - I get well p'ed off when people repeat themselves to me! Anyhoos - compass - you can do this with a fairly cheap compass - mine is showing near 7-10 degrees from what it should be but I still can't be sure due to clouds. The other day it seemed to drift 20 degrees for about an hour or so but I could have put my pc too close!? This is unlikely to go from N/S to S/N fast - we should be able to monitor at least the first few weeks of 'shift' Nice to know there are like minded peeps about - and your roomie is likewise for you! I want the use of ALL of my brain! "I hate the idea of yesterday being a replay of tomorrow!" . Because UK revolution matters too... The Love Police: [link to www.youtube.com] |