Let's Talk Feminism

I'll agree with you on egotistical, but I don't think he's evil in the slightest.

Evil presents itself in many forms. One does not have to have two horns, and be going on murdering sprees to be identified as such. Control, and expecting people to blindly obey your every order is a form of evil. This is a disorder.

And by the way DP, you know I'm just expressing my opinion, I would never attack you personally, get verbally absuive or anything stupid like that. Never ever! I've told you hundreds of time, you are loved by me, no matter what, and I meant it


He doesn't expect me to blindly obey. He expects blind faith and to use my good sense when it comes to obedience. His control thing is both a blessing and a curse. It makes him great at his job, and a good leader, but it also heaps him with responsibility.

And no worries, I know we differ on this one.

True. There are many people who for whatever reasons are unable to think thru the available choices they could make
and the consequences for them AND their immediate circle
which may include a spouse and children. They also have had fantasies all their lives and there are very few people who have NOT had fantasies. Some people go to a DOMME just for a thrill and to try to reach the heights of titillation
and keep their spiritual issues to themselves.

Othere NEED a mature guide to help them assess their lives and how to determine the best choices. They develop a
parent/child relationship but when not in session are
just good friends

A well experienced Domme of Dom will draw out the stifled emotional issues and work them thru in the submission
actions. The level of suffering is ALWAYS agreed on prior to play and the boundaries for both are set. Some dont even want any pain, just symbolism. Some do want pain
and for those it is a personal trial each time to test their OWN boundaries. Some TOPS will not go into severe pain, others will only if they know the submissive well and the psychological state of that sub. YES there are those who do not abide by the RULE of BDSM-D/s
and those are dangerous to get involved with
The RULE is SAFE,SANE,CONSENSUAL.

All my subs have to think of their fav fantasy and what punishments are appropriate, write it all down and bring a copy to Me. I read it back to that one and consent is reached as to the punishments and levels of pain before we proceed. A safe word is offered. The last few years most refuse any safe word, part of their personal testing. As an experienced TOP I keep a close eye on muscle movements
perspiration, breathing , so when a sub is trying to go deeper and I think its far enough I can gracefully stop
without embarrassing it.


"it"?

Interesting choice of words...


Always there is a Q&A period to make sure what was felt, and direction we went and where it


"it"?

Interesting choice of words...


feels it


"it"?

Interesting choice of words...


needs to go next time.

This is of great benefit to BOTH the TOP and the bottom
Any other play can be abuse. It is up to BOTH players to be cautious about who we play with.

In 20 years I have never had a bad actor as a sub.
Good judgement and vetting works just fine.


For those who know little or nothing about the lifestyle to be passing judgement is silly and intolerant

We dont tell you how to have fun with your GF BF or spouse
so why must you tell us how to play with consenting partners?


This "consenting" is a very weak defence for evil, since most people can be manipulated and pushed into consenting with almost anything by a skilled enough manipulator.

And the fact you keep referring to your 'consenting partner' as "it" speaks volumes about the relationship...

A manipulator is abusing the manipulatee. The fact he or she has manipulated the victim into "consenting" changes nothing.

He doesn't expect me to blindly obey. He expects blind faith and to use my good sense when it comes to obedience. His control thing is both a blessing and a curse. It makes him great at his job, and a good leader, but it also heaps him with responsibility.

And no worries, I know we differ on this one.

Blind faith? Like you should just have faith that he will lead you in the right direction always? Why? Is not a mere human who can and does make mistakes? Sounds like he has exalted himself as God, which of course he is not.

And thanks, hon. You rock in that regards!

Repeating what you dont understand shows your ignorance

not any failure of the form of play many enjoy

In our language a sub gives up its identity when it enters
into the play
male or female it becomes an "it"
this is our language

you seem to be stuck on being stuck for want of the
knowledge to be able to debate the topic

subs seek out TOPS and beg to be taken as subs
no one grabs them off the street and forces them into
subjugation
no one is manipulated into seeking
except in YOUR fantasies
I know some fine quality Doms to help you to explore those fantasies
it seems to fall into the 'kidnapped' scenario

you are unable to accept this consensual part so you are ill equipped to give and value to the discussion other than your OPINION which of course, has NO value to those of us who have no guilt around our life choices

go stand in the corner for two hours and then write what
refusing to accept others life choices makes you


I DID mention intolerance......

He doesn't expect me to blindly obey. He expects blind faith and to use my good sense when it comes to obedience. His control thing is both a blessing and a curse. It makes him great at his job, and a good leader, but it also heaps him with responsibility.

And no worries, I know we differ on this one.

Blind faith? Like you should just have faith that he will lead you in the right direction always? Why? Is not a mere human who can and does make mistakes? Sounds like he has exalted himself as God, which of course he is not.

And thanks, hon. You rock in that regards!


He expects blind faith that his intentions are good and that he honestly has the family's best interest at heart. Blind faith in his love and commitment, much like he has for me in that regard.

He doesn't expect anyone to believe he's always right, because god know, he isn't.

He wants me to have faith in him, in us- not to expect that he'll walk on water.

Do you guys realize what a tremendous amount of responsibility a dom has? This is why a good dom is hard to find...I bet there are a TON of posers out there...

Dang thats OT again huh lol...nvm


Yeppers there is a huge difference from being a Dom and being just an asshole.

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No kidding. He may be way dominant, but he's the consumate gentleman.

You have a good TOP for a husband, If that were not what
you need you would not have attracted that so enjoy and
"be grateful!" u kno.

He doesn't expect me to blindly obey. He expects blind faith and to use my good sense when it comes to obedience. His control thing is both a blessing and a curse. It makes him great at his job, and a good leader, but it also heaps him with responsibility.

And no worries, I know we differ on this one.

Blind faith? Like you should just have faith that he will lead you in the right direction always? Why? Is not a mere human who can and does make mistakes? Sounds like he has exalted himself as God, which of course he is not.

And thanks, hon. You rock in that regards!


He expects blind faith that his intentions are good and that he honestly has the family's best interest at heart. Blind faith in his love and commitment, much like he has for me in that regard.

He doesn't expect anyone to believe he's always right, because god know, he isn't.

He wants me to have faith in him, in us- not to expect that he'll walk on water.


Thats gotta keep the "spark" going ya know...

I'm just shocked no one came into this thread telling one of you ladies to go get them a sammich.

I'm kinda disappointed in AC's today.

Repeating what you dont understand shows your ignorance

not any failure of the form of play many enjoy

In our language a sub gives up its identity when it enters
into the play
male or female it becomes an "it"
this is our language

you seem to be stuck on being stuck for want of the
knowledge to be able to debate the topic

subs seek out TOPS and beg to be taken as subs
no one grabs them off the street and forces them into
subjugation
no one is manipulated into seeking
except in YOUR fantasies
I know some fine quality Doms to help you to explore those fantasies
it seems to fall into the 'kidnapped' scenario

you are unable to accept this consensual part so you are ill equipped to give and value to the discussion other than your OPINION which of course, has NO value to those of us who have no guilt around our life choices

go stand in the corner for two hours and then write what
refusing to accept others life choices makes you


I DID mention intolerance......

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Maybe because I don't do the whole "play with others" thing, I am off base, but the "it" thing kind of squicks me.

I'm just shocked no one came into this thread telling one of you ladies to go get them a sammich.

I'm kinda disappointed in AC's today.


Speaking of, I have chicken soup to get started. I finally broke down and admitted that I have a cold.

He doesn't expect me to blindly obey. He expects blind faith and to use my good sense when it comes to obedience. His control thing is both a blessing and a curse. It makes him great at his job, and a good leader, but it also heaps him with responsibility.

And no worries, I know we differ on this one.

Blind faith? Like you should just have faith that he will lead you in the right direction always? Why? Is not a mere human who can and does make mistakes? Sounds like he has exalted himself as God, which of course he is not.

And thanks, hon. You rock in that regards!


He expects blind faith that his intentions are good and that he honestly has the family's best interest at heart. Blind faith in his love and commitment, much like he has for me in that regard.

He doesn't expect anyone to believe he's always right, because god know, he isn't.

He wants me to have faith in him, in us- not to expect that he'll walk on water.


Thats gotta keep the "spark" going ya know...


It does. Even when I'm doubting, or down, or overwhelmed, I have this amazing man who tells me everything is going to be OK. And he believes it. And he makes it so.

How can you not love that?

You have a good TOP for a husband, If that were not what
you need you would not have attracted that so enjoy and
"be grateful!" u kno.


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I am grateful, every day. Even the bad days. LOL

He doesn't expect me to blindly obey. He expects blind faith and to use my good sense when it comes to obedience. His control thing is both a blessing and a curse. It makes him great at his job, and a good leader, but it also heaps him with responsibility.

And no worries, I know we differ on this one.

Blind faith? Like you should just have faith that he will lead you in the right direction always? Why? Is not a mere human who can and does make mistakes? Sounds like he has exalted himself as God, which of course he is not.

And thanks, hon. You rock in that regards!


He expects blind faith that his intentions are good and that he honestly has the family's best interest at heart. Blind faith in his love and commitment, much like he has for me in that regard.

He doesn't expect anyone to believe he's always right, because god know, he isn't.

He wants me to have faith in him, in us- not to expect that he'll walk on water.

I'm just shocked no one came into this thread telling one of you ladies to go get them a sammich.

I'm kinda disappointed in AC's today.

Jeffrey Dahmer wasn't a known Domme.

Most pro Dommes/Dominas belong to certain associations and/or clubs their reputations are known.

Fuck off. You have no Honour.


Dear I use to feel just like you about these things. The first submissive I met I wanted so much to rescue her. It took me a long time to understand this type of scene or why people wanted to be treated like that. Although I avoid the real extreme people I do get it now.


She has been with this guy for 20 years. She doesn't know how to get out, I feel sorry for her. Like a puppy that has been beat and kicked but, keeps coming back.


She doesn't want or need to get out. I know you don't understand that and I didn't for a long time. There are far more submissives in this world that Dominates.





She doesn't want or need to get out. I know you don't understand that and I didn't for a long time. There are far more submissives in this world that Dominates.


True. There are many people who for whatever reasons are unable to think thru the available choices they could make
and the consequences for them AND their immediate circle
which may include a spouse and children. They also have had fantasies all their lives and there are very few people who have NOT had fantasies. Some people go to a DOMME just for a thrill and to try to reach the heights of titillation
and keep their spiritual issues to themselves.

Othere NEED a mature guide to help them assess their lives and how to determine the best choices. They develop a
parent/child relationship but when not in session are
just good friends

A well experienced Domme of Dom will draw out the stifled emotional issues and work them thru in the submission
actions. The level of suffering is ALWAYS agreed on prior to play and the boundaries for both are set. Some dont even want any pain, just symbolism. Some do want pain
and for those it is a personal trial each time to test their OWN boundaries. Some TOPS will not go into severe pain, others will only if they know the submissive well and the psychological state of that sub. YES there are those who do not abide by the RULE of BDSM-D/s
and those are dangerous to get involved with
The RULE is SAFE,SANE,CONSENSUAL.

All my subs have to think of their fav fantasy and what punishments are appropriate, write it all down and bring a copy to Me. I read it back to that one and consent is reached as to the punishments and levels of pain before we proceed. A safe word is offered. The last few years most refuse any safe word, part of their personal testing. As an experienced TOP I keep a close eye on muscle movements
perspiration, breathing , so when a sub is trying to go deeper and I think its far enough I can gracefully stop
without embarrassing it. Always there is a Q&A period to make sure what was felt, and direction we went and where it feels it needs to go next time.

This is of great benefit to BOTH the TOP and the bottom
Any other play can be abuse. It is up to BOTH players to be cautious about who we play with.

In 20 years I have never had a bad actor as a sub.
Good judgement and vetting works just fine.


For those who know little or nothing about the lifestyle to be passing judgement is silly and intolerant

We dont tell you how to have fun with your GF BF or spouse
so why must you tell us how to play with consenting partners?




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Very well put and I can tell your the real deal.

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I'm just shocked no one came into this thread telling one of you ladies to go get them a sammich.

I'm kinda disappointed in AC's today.

I did,.... sorta

And when your feeling down you can watch some poor women getting her tits nailed to a plank or maybe a good old hanging with meat hooks! Classy.....

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I'm just shocked no one came into this thread telling one of you ladies to go get them a sammich.

I'm kinda disappointed in AC's today.

I did,.... sorta


Go hunt me some deer MAN!!!

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I'm just shocked no one came into this thread telling one of you ladies to go get them a sammich.

I'm kinda disappointed in AC's today.

I did,.... sorta


Go hunt me some deer MAN!!!

between you an me op there aint a man born that would forbid me something

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LOL, you sound like the original female progenitor, EVE!! take a bite of that apple dear...

This is all a very cute discussion you girls are having, but us men are gettin hungry. Would you fine ladies be dears and go fetch us some sammiches?

This is all a very cute discussion you girls are having, but us men are gettin hungry. Would you fine ladies be dears and go fetch us some sammiches?

Go hunt me some deer MAN!!!

Repeating what you dont understand shows your ignorance

not any failure of the form of play many enjoy

In our language a sub gives up its identity when it enters
into the play
male or female it becomes an "it"
this is our language

you seem to be stuck on being stuck for want of the
knowledge to be able to debate the topic

subs seek out TOPS and beg to be taken as subs
no one grabs them off the street and forces them into
subjugation
no one is manipulated into seeking
except in YOUR fantasies
I know some fine quality Doms to help you to explore those fantasies
it seems to fall into the 'kidnapped' scenario

you are unable to accept this consensual part so you are ill equipped to give and value to the discussion other than your OPINION which of course, has NO value to those of us who have no guilt around our life choices

go stand in the corner for two hours and then write what
refusing to accept others life choices makes you

I DID mention intolerance......