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Let's Talk Feminism

 
D's Pet  (OP)

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feminism is about the defence of womens rights
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Do you think that one of those rights is their choice on which relationship paradigm to choose?
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Feminism is about equality and freedom.

That's what we let them think.
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Im pretty tired of women using the term feminist when feminazi might be much more appropriate. Real feminists want equality not superiority!

To me...it means being allowed to make our own choices for own lifestyle. Not what men want..nor what other women want.

And really, as far as Im concerned, they have fucked up an awful lot of shit for women men and their children ...contrary to original intent I assume!

hf


I think I <3 you, gsf!
 Quoting: D's Pet

Thanks Ds....I have noticed your posts...I could never opt for your lifestyle, but I respect that it works for you hf

And, I am sure there are plenty of feminists who would support your right to make your own choices. After all its what feminism is about ...right?

To be honest the word has been so overused to such a point of degradation that I coudlnt even apply it to myself anymore. Its gone way past the point of equality for all in my opinion.
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Anything that ends with "ism" is some form of evil presenting itself as good.

Eventually you'll come to realize it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884

The most intelligent post on the subject so far....
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The feminist movement was infiltrated and co-opted just like the environmental movement and the tea party and any other serious threat to the Establishment.

True feminism is about ending abuse, having choices in your lifestyle, equality, and freedom. Societies where women have access to education, careers, reproductive choices, and health care are more free than societies that don't.

The freedom of the women is about the freedom of us all!
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oh! and dungarees.I'm sure they're involved.
 Quoting: Richard Eldritch


LOL, I wear jeans frequently. Does that make me one of the man hating lesbian feminists of which you speak?
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It is the ability to kill your unborn child and live a life of poverty....
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Thats pretty damn close hf
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Feminism is about equality and freedom.

That's what we let them think.


You be good or I'll tell your wife to beat you up .... Again! ;-)
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

Tell her! We both like it.
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Richard Eldritch

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12/30/2010 11:29 AM
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It's something to do with Fat Ugly Lesbians that can't get exploited....

how typical
 Quoting: wildhoney

Funny how ugly lesbians are feminists but young pretty ones are porn stars?
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Anything that ends with "ism" is some form of evil presenting itself as good.

Eventually you'll come to realize it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884

+7
:gsfhibiscus: ...Where there's a Will...

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Anything that ends with "ism" is some form of evil presenting itself as good.

Eventually you'll come to realize it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884


I have my theory on it, and I think the version we see here is much like you describe.
The good news is that, according to the Obama administration, the rich will pay for everything. The bad news is that, according to the Obama administration, you're rich.
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Feminism is about equality and freedom.


Equality per se, or equality in opportunity?
 Quoting: D's Pet


Equality in all levels.
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Anything that ends with "ism" is some form of evil presenting itself as good.

Eventually you'll come to realize it.
The most intelligent post on the subject so far....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211541

+ 100,000,000,000
D's Pet  (OP)

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Hi D!

hf
 Quoting: Least Servant


Hi, LS! I hope your morning is going well.
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Isn't there a video where Aaron Russo reveals what that Rockefeller guy said about feminism
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Feminism was a carefully constructed trap. A tool to divide us. It is as specious as any other ism.


It seems to me that they are not only dividing women form emn, but pitting women against each other in many cases.
 Quoting: D's Pet

thats all talk but you have to see the root of feminism the reason why feminism was born. It came to be because of the atrocious conditions many women had to live in and endure. Women were considered no more than property of their father first and husband later, so their luck depended on what cards they were handed out and the character of who would own them.
For a women to have a career was practically unthinkable.
For a women to have a higher education almost non existent
A woman was not allowed to own property , assets or have her own money in many cases, and could not dispose without husbands consent. This was tantamount to slavery...
and so on and so forth

Feminism is not an obligation, its a right. You dont have to be a feminist but feminism allows women who do want to have independence and a voice to do so.
Richard Eldritch

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Feminism is about equality and freedom.


Equality per se, or equality in opportunity?


Equality in all levels.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

I not sure where feminism leaves you nikki!
HUSSAR!
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It's something to do with Fat Ugly Lesbians that can't get exploited....

how typical

Funny how ugly lesbians are feminists but young pretty ones are porn stars?
 Quoting: Richard Eldritch

if you saw a photo of me sweetie you would drool neener
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Feminism is about equality and freedom.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

just remember, bob spelled backward is bob
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Feminism is about equality and freedom.


Equality per se, or equality in opportunity?


Equality in all levels.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

Even in physical strength? I'll admit there are a few exceptions, but this is not normal. Present company excluded, of course. Happy New Year, Nik!
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Im pretty tired of women using the term feminist when feminazi might be much more appropriate. Real feminists want equality not superiority!

To me...it means being allowed to make our own choices for own lifestyle. Not what men want..nor what other women want.

And really, as far as Im concerned, they have fucked up an awful lot of shit for women men and their children ...contrary to original intent I assume!

hf


I think I <3 you, gsf!

Thanks Ds....I have noticed your posts...I could never opt for your lifestyle, but I respect that it works for you hf

And, I am sure there are plenty of feminists who would support your right to make your own choices. After all its what feminism is about ...right?

To be honest the word has been so overused to such a point of degradation that I coudlnt even apply it to myself anymore. Its gone way past the point of equality for all in my opinion.
 Quoting: ~*~gsf~*~


I think that this new third wave of feminism is much what you describe.
The good news is that, according to the Obama administration, the rich will pay for everything. The bad news is that, according to the Obama administration, you're rich.
~P. J. O'Rourke
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Feminism was a carefully constructed trap. A tool to divide us. It is as specious as any other ism.


It seems to me that they are not only dividing women form emn, but pitting women against each other in many cases.

thats all talk but you have to see the root of feminism the reason why feminism was born. It came to be because of the atrocious conditions many women had to live in and endure. Women were considered no more than property of their father first and husband later, so their luck depended on what cards they were handed out and the character of who would own them.
For a women to have a career was practically unthinkable.
For a women to have a higher education almost non existent
A woman was not allowed to own property , assets or have her own money in many cases, and could not dispose without husbands consent. This was tantamount to slavery...
and so on and so forth

Feminism is not an obligation, its a right. You dont have to be a feminist but feminism allows women who do want to have independence and a voice to do so.
 Quoting: wildhoney

But you must still slap your women sometime? they'd be out of control otherwise. Personaly I only slap her when she burns my dinner and refuses anal,but then i'm a liberal.
HUSSAR!
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It's something to do with Fat Ugly Lesbians that can't get exploited....

how typical

Funny how ugly lesbians are feminists but young pretty ones are porn stars?

if you saw a photo of me sweetie you would drool neener
 Quoting: wildhoney

Nah! Moustaches don't turn me on,but hairy legs? WAWOWEEWOO!!!
HUSSAR!
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Hi, LS! I hope your morning is going well.
 Quoting: D's Pet


I am having a nice morning.

I have had the feeling since last night that fighting and speaking out for what I believe to be right is actually important in a way I haven't felt before.

I am fairly tired of the empty parroted hatred, it's time to stop the witches hunts and douse the pyre.
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Feminism at its core might have had the right idea but the current version of it has mutated into such a form that nothing but negative connotations can be drawn for it.
Everyone dies, but not everyone lives.

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Feminism is about equality and freedom.


Equality per se, or equality in opportunity?


Equality in all levels.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


Interesting. So, would you count me as a (third wave) feminist?
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It's something to do with Fat Ugly Lesbians that can't get exploited....

how typical

Funny how ugly lesbians are feminists but young pretty ones are porn stars?

if you saw a photo of me sweetie you would drool neener

Nah! Moustaches don't turn me on,but hairy legs? WAWOWEEWOO!!!
 Quoting: Richard Eldritch

probably because yours arentneener
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Some people call my mom a feminist because she did a lot of things ladies did do like hunt fish and shoot. She was the American woman to shoot in a sniper's match and was on the cover of magizines for her hunting skills. The whole time she was very feminine.

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Feminism was a carefully constructed trap. A tool to divide us. It is as specious as any other ism.


It seems to me that they are not only dividing women form emn, but pitting women against each other in many cases.

thats all talk but you have to see the root of feminism the reason why feminism was born. It came to be because of the atrocious conditions many women had to live in and endure. Women were considered no more than property of their father first and husband later, so their luck depended on what cards they were handed out and the character of who would own them.
For a women to have a career was practically unthinkable.
For a women to have a higher education almost non existent
A woman was not allowed to own property , assets or have her own money in many cases, and could not dispose without husbands consent. This was tantamount to slavery...
and so on and so forth

Feminism is not an obligation, its a right. You dont have to be a feminist but feminism allows women who do want to have independence and a voice to do so.
 Quoting: wildhoney


What you describe is the "first wave" of feminism, the suffrage movement.
That was co-opted by the Dworkin-esque second wave.
Now we're seeing the emergence of a third wave- women who want the choice to do as they decide, even if it is not in line with the first two.

I conseder myself a feminist. I raised my daughter to know she can do whatever she wants to do in life, but that there is no shame in choosing to be a wife and mother. It's up to her.

Last Edited by D's Pet on 12/30/2010 11:50 AM
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To me Feminism, besides the defence of the womens rights is an exaltation of femininity, you got it girl you flaunt it ! because we are ladies and we rock!!!! rockon





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